Disarming America Through Executive Fiat

“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”

“The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements…They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results.”

Those two quotes from Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini represent the worst in gun control. The beginnings of many dictatorships have begun with the seizing of weapons from the citizenry. Now, I’m not saying that the United States is anywhere near the likes of those dictatorships; but everything begins somewhere. Every historic tragedy has an origin on which people look back and wonder how they could have gone so far.

At a press event yesterday, Veep Joe Biden said this: “The president is going to act…There are executive orders, there’s executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required…it’s critically important that we act…As the president said, if your actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking. But I’m convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm’s way if we act responsibly.”

Gun control is the issue du jour right now because of the string of recent shootings. I won’t ramble on about how gun control is not the solution; how in England, gun violence has risen, despite strict gun laws. What I want to talk about is the danger of using an executive order to do anything about guns.

Most of the country stands firmly behind the second amendment. To enact restrictive gun laws through an executive order has consequences.

1. By side-stepping Congress, Obama would be acting against the entire movement of democracy. Senators and House Representatives are a third of our government body, acting as a counterweight. They are elected to represent the people; sometimes standing in necessary opposition to the President. Our system should not be built on executive order.

2. By issuing an executive order, Obama would be disregarding the second amendment, and all who believe in it. He would be blowing off the people–a precedent he set with Obamacare, one could argue.

3. Finally, as I mentioned above, harsh gun restrictions can lead to gun confiscation, leaving a citizenry unable to help themselves in dangerous situations. In addition to that, without weapons, an oppressive government–such as ours is becoming–can much more easily squelch opposition; whatever they consider that to be.

With this potential executive order, we are wandering dangerously far into a dark forrest. We cannot later look back on this moment and wonder how we got so far. They say that hindsight is 20/20, but what’s the point of clarity if time has passed us by? We need to look at this right now, in this very moment, and speak up.



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534 comments on “Disarming America Through Executive Fiat
  1. ChiefGator says:

    The first executive order that Obama should sign right after his inauguration is to get rid of that smiling *sshole Biden!

  2. antiliberalcryptonite says:

    Don’t Even Attempt Disarming

  3. PghVince says:

    ALL of ovomit’s idiotic EOs don’t make good ass-wipes!!!!
    Tell him to GFY and STFU!!!!

  4. DavidPeacock says:

    ain’t gonna happen;;    ” the shot heard round the world”;; bye bye a666 wipe.

  5. VickiK says:

    What is wrong with this scenario?!? Everything!  He is everything us conservatives said he was, and worse.  Unfortunately we all have to put up with him.  If he ever wanted a full-scale revolt on his hands, this is the way to do it.  Obama is dangerous, and it shouldn’t take that many idiots in Congress to see it.  If they won’t act against this tyranny, I guess it will be up to the rest of us to fight for our Constitutional rights.  And yes, I did not call him PRESIDENT Obama, and I never will.  I reserve that title of respect for someone who earns it and deserves it, not someone who lies, cheats and swindels the American people.

    • mudguy says:

      @VickiK I too will never never call or say he is the President  or a President. he is a dictator and a fraud. He dose not care or love America like a real American would. He needs to be impeach now and not later.

    • gadfly32 says:

      Not only is obama dangerous, he not a legal president. He is not a natural born citizen.  His father is a Kenyan. If congress was doing its job  he would be up for trial.  Look what Mc Cain had to go throught to prob=ve he was a natural born citizen.  Anyone who supports obama in any way is doing an illegal act.   God Bless America.

  6. John Adams says:

    I say Jail him and the cabinet the second he signs it.

  7. s68070292 says:

    More dangerous than Obama is a Marxist and evil press.  Now one can argue Chris Matthews is stupid and probably make a good case, but I think he is evil and despises everything that is good.  I don’t watch much TV but the snippets I see on the blog pretty much support Rush’s comments that most of the bimbos in front of the cameras are ignorant and emotional rather than educated and logical and curious as professional journalists should be.

  8. gparra9 says:

    is it time to lock & load America ???!!!!

  9. ErikOsbun says:

    The consequences of going around the Constitution are about to unfold.

  10. kushibo says:

    Are executive orders unconstitutional in and of themselves? Or are we worried that the content itself is going to be unconstitutional? How about we wait until we know what is in the executive order is and is not before we declare itunconstitutional?
    If it’s an executive order saying that guns should be confiscated, of course we should vehemently oppose it. But if it’s an executive order, for example, saying that certain regulations should be done at the federal level instead of the state level, that is not necessarily unconstitutional, depending on what the actual executive order is.

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @kushibo The 2nd amendment says “Shall not be infringed.” Perfectly clears and unambiguous. The federal government has NO authority to restrict our right to keep and bear arms.
      The Founders were clear, in their own words:
      “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people” – Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
      “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States” – Noah Webster in `An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution’, 1787
      “A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington

      * “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed … but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights…” – Alexander Hamilton
      “The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.” Thomas Jefferson
      “The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press.” And
      “Tyranny thrives where gov’t need not fear the wrath of an armed populace” Thomas Jefferson
      “The prohibition is general. No clause in the constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both”. Rawle

  11. debdrs says:

    We must unite and tell every elected official to not ban any weapons.  The freedom loving police and the freedom loving patriots must unite against this legislation/executive order/ whatever else they choose to call it.
    Stand and having done all stand.

  12. gparra9 says:

    Is it time to lock & load America???? !!!!

  13. debdrs says:

    Lock and load against whom???? divide and conquer.  If freedom loving police start campaign against freedom loving patriots, what has been accomplished?

    • Big D Patriot says:

      Freedom loving people who care about maintaing their freedom and that of all Americans would refuse to take any action against other Americans. At some point one has to make difficult decisions and do what is right for the Citizens and not the few elitist in Washington.

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @debdrs Any official who attempts to in force unconstitutional edicts from Obama is a traitor and has declared war on us all. “I was just following orders” didn’t fly as a defense at Nuremberg, and it won’t fly here. The Germans who tried it were eventually hung. Here, they will be shot promptly.

  14. deadhead says:

    Screw them!!!

  15. mrscas says:

    Obama is a very dangerous man.  I hope this sleeping giant aka the USA will wake up soon.

  16. Elmerdeadwood1 says:

    Can you believe what  these arrogant bas–rds are trying to pull off ,aint gonna happen .The military should go in and arrest the lot of them and try them for treason and if nothing else purgery for swearing to uphold the constitution of the United States.People we are in deep Shit with these people .

  17. debdrs says:

    obomination was put here for a purpose  –  perhaps this is judgement on America  – perhaps like Israel in Eqypt, America needs to bow her knees, truly worship and return to JESUS

  18. ShortyStuff says:

    “if your actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking” .. don’t you just love the hypocrisy of the left?  Can you believe they said that when the allow, and even encourage millions of abortions?

    • mrscas says:

      @ShortyStuff Anyone that believes this is about saving lives is very naive.

    • faithandfreedom says:

      @ShortyStuff Not to mention thousands of slain Mexicans from F & F.

    • kenupnorth says:

      @ShortyStuff In addition nearly 35,000 auto deaths, 10,000 involved alcohol, 6,000 involved distractions like cell phones.  I don’t see them wanting to ban or seriously restrict those items. Maybe the government should ban cell phones. A land line is good enough.  Limit cars to 20 hp engines and 30 mph.  That would save even more lives. This could go on forever.

    • RedMeatState says:

      @ShortyStuff Don’t you just wonder how many millions of citizens they would be willing to kill in order to protect us from our guns????  William Ayers says 25 million at least.

    • BibleN45 says:

       Amen to that! 50+ MILLION dead American babies since Roe v. Wade. Just for “convenience.”  Make no mistake, GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED.  That ugly fact alone is sufficient reason for our country to stop being blessed by the Maker.  Either we change it or we will lose it.

    • SandyTrank says:

      @ShortyStuff Of course you realize he means his life?

  19. georgesmith12373 says:

    It’s time for the talking points to end and action to begin. This man (obama) doesn’t give a crap about this country, the Constitution, or the law. He has been sent to destroy us and is doing it right before our eyes, and all our representatives are doing is going along with it. It’s time now to group together, to create a plan and build a defense force and prepare to fight. This is going to happen and I am convinced that before his term is up, this country will be no more unless we start preparing.

  20. debdrs says:

    they are full of hypocrisy

  21. GaryNortham says:

    The only orders that I want from the President is that he intends to keep his oath, to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America!!!!!!!!!

  22. Lou J Apa says:

    Truly am illegal abuse of power and in direct abuse of the constitution…STOP IT NOW!!!!

    • ginger says:

      @Lou J Apa
       And what are WE going to do to stop it?? Do you have your Senators and Reps on speed dial?? There is a toll free number at the Congressional switchboard and they will put you through to the person you request…wear them out people.

  23. Danny says:

    All that i can say is hoard your food, and buy all of the guns and ammo that you can get your hands on. You are gonna need them when the sh*t hits the fan. It will be 1776 all over again. Either we fight and save our country or we become another 3rd world country with a dictator living in the lap of luxury while the rest of us are slaves to our government. Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!!!

  24. SLA011308 says:

    There are 80 million gun owners in this country that the government knows about, not to mention those that they don’t. If 1/3 of these gun owners refused to give up their arms and were taken into custody, it would overwhelm our prison system and the discussion would be over. This is how the Chinese planned to invade and take over Russia at one time. Send one million armed troops at a time into Russia and when confronted, lay down their arms and be imprisoned. After the third wave of these armed soldiers were taken into custody, the Russian government would not be able to house them and thus collapse their prison system. We could end the gun debate if it ever came to confiscation and not ever fire a shot. Just refusing to give up your arms would be enough to settle this debate immediately. They won’t send armed federal troops to confiscate your firearms. It will be the poor local police officer or sheriff and he would tell you that he is just doing his job and has a family to go home to, so please don’t shoot me. This president is without a doubt a socialist at best, but I fear a true communist and would welcome an armed confrontation so he could eliminate the “Elements of disorder and subversion”. We have to come together as like minded people with our neighbors, family members, co-workers etc. to oppose this administration. What are your willing to sacrifice America for your children’s freedom? I’m willing to lay down my very life so my children can live free. Without freedom, your truly are dead! Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

    • MarkHess1 says:

      @SLA011308 they have already thought of this!!! That’s why they have FEMA camps

    • ginger says:

      We all KNOW that they want to disarm us, We KNOW they want total control over us, where we live, what we eat, what we drink, what we drive, to whom we can speak…they use propaganda to convince the masses that they really want what they are Told they are to want…the tail is wagging the dog and we do NOTHING…Congress does NOTHING and we sit and wait for Agenda 21 and DO Nothing!!!

    • FadedGlory says:

      SLA011308 tell that to the people at Ruby Ridge!

  25. parevolutionary says:

    By using the executive order Barry o is setting himself up as the only one in charge……also committing treason by subverting the Constitution he is sworn to uphold…..what is the punishment for treason???

  26. RedMeatState says:

    An Executive Order to dismiss the 2nd Amendment would not have any force or effect of law.  IN fact, it should be Obama’s undoing as a clear violation of his Oath to Uphold and Defend the Constitution, and also be a Declaration of War against the American People!~
    Is this the uprising that DHS has been planning on?  What will the military and Law Enforcement do considering THEY TOOK AN OATH to defend and uphold the Constitution as well?

  27. DockyWocky says:

    Look’s like we’re already peons in a liberal Democrat dictatorship.
    What gets me is how slowly the intelligent people are to anger.

    • JohnGaltTexas says:

      That is because intelligent, civilized people have a hard time conceptualizing that reprobate barbarians have hi-jacked their government.

  28. gary jones says:

    There’s No Executive order, unconstitutional or legal law that can override inherent law of the 2nd Amendment Right to bear arms to protect the Constitutional against foreign and domestic enemies. The only amendment that is fundamentally superior in protecting the rest of our rights and the country. Obama and Holder broke their oath and aided abide d drug cartels, murderers, and bang bangers with military weapons.They committed treason by arming a hostile enemy or unlawful group or regime. Obama and Holder should be tried for treason and hung.

    • gadfly32 says:

      The bill of rights  did not come from Government it came from God   these rights preseed the constitution and the United States.  some of our founders did not think we need a bill of rights because they came from our crearor, not government.
      It is the Godless groups that want to disarm the people.  If you own a gu , believe you have aright to own a gun jpin the NRA, it isn’t too late to put the government down below the citizens to whom they subservient, by the constitution.

    • SandyTrank says:

      @gary jones They absolutely should be but sadly they are getting away with ignoring our Constitution and most of the people hate it but how to stop them was supposed to be the ballot box and that didn’t free us so what now? Confrontation will most likely be forced on us.

  29. JohnGaltTexas says:

    Time to party like its 1776.

  30. Tony Ruiz says:

    We will not stand for it; we’re not dumb germans, italians or any other people. We are armed Americans and as such are the largest army in the world.

    • ginger says:

      @Tony Ruiz
       I wish I were as sure as you…when they start coming for individual’s guns and the neighbors and others stand around and do nothing…the gov’t has won. Then line up for the boxcars folks.

      • Freshwind says:

        @ ginger  @Tony Ruiz
         Yes –  that will happen if people keep ignoring Agenda 21 instead of getting rid of it and the whole UN –  boot them out of the country @

  31. 2chestnuts says:

    You must understand that Obama has no respect for OUR Constitution and he will bypass it whenever he chooses. He has said that more than once.  I do not understand why action has not been taken against his policies and procedures such as not defending the Defense of Marriage Act, not prosecuting the Black Panthers when they violated peoples voting rights, covering up the Fast and Furious criminal activities, hiding from a truly open debate on the Benghazi murder of 4 USA citizens and the list goes on and on. 
    Also the many, many bold face lies he has made to the American citizenary.  Such as I will cut the budget in half my first term, my administration will be the most open and transparent in history, all bill negotiations will be on CSPAN and the public will have 48 hrs. to respond b-4 they are voted on, I will immediately close Guantanamo, leave Iraq, stop Iran from nuclear armament, etc., etc,.  How can anyone vote for such a boldface liar if one understands OUR Constitution is beyond me. 
    And now we are going to trust him with OUR 2nd Amendment?  Be careful it will not end there.

  32. har82 says:

    If he will not say it I will – we are ,, near that stage – . There is nothing the communists  ( bammie , pelosi , frankenstein , dirty harry, and so on ) wouldn’t love more than to abolish the 2nd completely.
    Yes the police are very arrogant ,, these days .. Yes ,, they run rough shod over most anyone they want with impunity.
    And the average joe out here has practically – no – recourse to it.

  33. lightvdark says:

    His (Camus’) essay, “The Rebel” paints a terrifying picture of “how metaphysical collapse often ends in total negation and the victory of nihilism, characterized by profound hatred, pathological destruction, and incalculable death.” 

  34. ginger says:

    Gosh, maybe people ARE starting to wake up and see where the fraud in Washington is wanting to take our country…and it is not what Americans want…they think nothing bad or sick can happen here and it has started already with the illegal activities of an illegal chief ex….who thinks he is king ….George II thought we would role over but it takes a concerted effort of like minded people to resist and not cave in….we must stand together or hang alone.

  35. tbjwebmaster says:

    Glad I recently bought a ton of ammo.  Wish there was more in the store to buy even more.  The way this arrogant marxist is going, I’ll need it soon.  Not to go on the defensive, just, as usual, for self defence.

  36. GFWSR says:

    It is likely that whatever this idiot administration comes up with put far more people in danger than it protects from same! Good gun control is hitting your target!

  37. FrankN says:

    Ask King George III how well it worked when he last tried to disarm the Americans! Obama cannot violate the second amendment because that would overstep his Constitutionally granted Authority!

    • JohnGaltTexas says:

      As laws apply only to the law abiding, boundaries only apply to those who recognize them.  The barbarians in charge now recognize no boundaries, no rule of law, no Constitution or Bill of Rights.  This is precisely why the Founders saw fit to draft the 2nd amendment. Not just for individual self preservation, but as a last resort to remove an illegal, out of control government should the need arise. This is why the barbarians in charge do not want anyone but themselves to be armed – this is why they will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can to disarm the populace. This has nothing to do with public safety or “the good of the people”, this is to make their path to dictatorship easier and less bloody. 
      Those who stand for nothing will fight for nothing. The time is rapidly approaching to decide what you stand for and what you will fight for.  The useful idiots, dupes and stooges have done their job. Will “We” do our job when the time comes…?

    • Beaconhill says:

      @FrankN Our Constitution is null and void because our Congressional leaders do not have the guts to impeach Obama. That’s why this blog’s participants’ comments have a common theme: taking up arms.

  38. Flyer1958 says:

    Obama is not eligible president, almost everybody high in the Government knows that. For fraud he shoud be prosecuted and all presidential orders and everything he did sign should be nullified.
    We are already half way to situation which is now in England (of course, Canada is almost there. In late sixties you did not hear about any shooting in Toronto. Since prohibition of the hand guns, there is no day without shooting over there). Gun laws of 1968 are word by word based on the Nazi laws signed by Hitler in 1938. That is what “we the People” allowed our elected politicians to do .Dictatorial government does not care about well being of the citizens any more. Read the Constitution what you are allowed to do, but be careful, you will be branded as terrorist, enemy of state, as you would be in any communist country. Over there is not very smart to say publicly what is in the Constitution, unless you do not care being prosecuted and rot in some place, forgotten by outside world.
    The ONLY reason for the gun control is the control by the Government of the own population. With usurping more and more power (Nazi Germany, all former communist countries and any dictatorship) there is the danger for such governments, that population of the country will start to defend themselves and have means to overthrow such Government. Criminals are in minority and never any danger to the government. Gun control is the goal of any dictatorship to which EVERY government is turning with the time. Obama’s administration is a good example of that.  Gun control through history produces one result: Genocide.
    Quote by Stan Mishin:
     “Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

  39. Bornandbredtexan says:

    A gun doesn’t kill someone without a human using it. But our government is killing our freedom just as surely as any gun–and without our permission.

  40. jmark says:

    Obama is banking on the notion that 51% of the public will support him.  Even though a portion may find it distasteful because they are gun owners, many of those will still comply because they want to believe the illusion that such an action is not all that bad.
    When the confiscators come, they will use shock and awe.  Expect swat like raids on key pro gun rights personnel.  Many against one.  It will a campaign of divide, isolate and overpower.
    In view of this, maybe a strategy should be developed for counter resistance.  A local ghost network for instance whereby other activists in the region can swarm in on a moments notice from many directions, to surround the invading gestapo.
    If we don’t stand together, we will fall separately.

    • gadfly32 says:

      All Gun owners should be members of the Nra,  With the  NRA label in their House windows and Cars.  All other NRA members should be ready ro step up  armed and stop any Govt. Minon from taking guns How would 10 Swat team members react if they were confronted by 30 armed citizens?

    • Freshwind says:

       I like that –  ===== networking all of us and getting to the Gestapo quickly and stopping them

    • Beaconhill says:

      @jmark Good God! Has our nation come to this. We are now talking about laying down our lives to fight for our freedom — against our own government!  We should write a Declaration of Independence from our own tyrannical government before we take up arms against it. The Founding Fathers would support us.

  41. gadfly32 says:

    Not only is Obama dangerous , he is an illegal preisdent.  He is not a natural born citizen.  His Fathewr is/ was a Kenyan.  remember the problem McCain had proving he was a natural born citizen??  Any one who supports Obama in any way  is going againest the constitution.  And should be arrested.  Get back tp the Constitution,  God  Bless America.

  42. RobWeiss says:

    It’s perfectly clear, Washington is full of hypocrites, and we all know how much the world loves them. Pelosi, disarm her. Holder, same thing. Obama, IMPEACH him.
    It’s been said before, but it bears repeating: Only from my cold, bare hands! Nobody, ATF, FBI or any other law enforcement agency will take my firearms without a fight!
    Do you think any of these idiots would be willing to give up their first amendment rights in exchange? We all know the answer. Screw them all!

  43. fwiw says:

    I’m personally tired of the government’s idea of a solution because it always entails taking something from us, be it money or freedom, or restricting us from getting something.  It’s the only thing they can do.

  44. mhck52 says:

    Has a liberal plan or program ever worked?

  45. LeonPuissegur says:

    Why n ot just call Obama “Little Hitler” and let it go at that? After all he is doing nearly the same thing!

  46. the Truth Seeker says:

    Too bad we had the 2nd Amendment in the 1800’s in antebellum South. First all those racists bigots in the South would not have been able to hold on to their slaves. Nat Turner’s Revolt in 1831 would have succeeded  and the Civil War would not have been fought, saving 630,000+ lives. Since the 1960’s we would have had a million more Americans saved from gun inflicted deaths. The 2nd Amendment is no more relevant than the 3rd Amendment. Maybe you law school wannabees should know as much about the 3rd and its 18th Century meaningfulness as James Madison’s view on the musket.

    • AmericaOpenUrEyes says:

      @the Truth Seeker

    • freedomringsforall says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      As i always say the liberal commies have a deep seated death wish.
      They always want socialism or some kind of dictatorial governance and then when they get it they are always the first to be marginalized.
      History has proven it over and over yet the stupid suicidal liberals keep fighting and fighting for their own demise.
      James Carville’s comments play into this also:
      James Carville, Democrat political consultant extraordinaire – and former Bill Clinton campaign manager, has astonishingly come out and said what all good Republicans have known for decades: Not only are most Democrats politically clueless; they’re easily manipulated by the puppet masters of their party as well. Wow. James Freaking Carville. Of all people. Here’s an excerpt, as quoted on Amazon.com:
      “Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.  The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
      Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality. What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.
      The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.

      • VeeDub says:

        It seems he is the seeker of his version of truth.  I love the quotes from Carville.  The selective truth seeker’s nose should be pouring copious amounts of blood right about now.
        Assuming he’s smart enough to know he’s been slammed!

    • AmericaOpenUrEyes says:

      @the Truth Seeker … I understand your concern, however the same arguement can be said about cars, air craft, medical, etc. What is one reason the US has not been invaded by foriegn powers? Because we have the largest militia in the world! We have 40+/- million armed citizens. If you take away that yes we are suseptible to foriegb invasion . Yes it is the truth, the Japanese stated as well as the Russians that attacking America on American soil would be never work because of our armed citizens. Now you are saying the types of weapons that are there are different from what was being mentioned… Did i or anyone else ever see “musket” or single shot gun in the constitiution? No it was the right to bear arms… Period. Do you need a 30 round magazine to kill a deer… Maybe if you a bad shot, but the same arguemebt can be stated.. Do you need a 500hp car to drive 75mph? With giving up your freedom for security you have neither… Remember.. A crab in a cold pot of water.. Turn it on and he will allow himself to boil to death.. Throw him in the boiling water and he climbs out.. Let me tell you this.. The execuative order to destroy the constitution is an impeachement. Period.. I will not stand by and watch this generations Hilter or dictator come to power.. You might sit by and watch… And benefit from those of us that will protect your rights just as we protect our own. Enjoy the ride.. Your mindset reminds me of the colonial settlers who webt against our independance.. Interesting.. Always someone to sit and enjoy the freedoms faught for and protected for you…

    • freedomringsforall says:

      @the Truth Seeker Also, the fact that you do not see the 2nd or the 3rd amendment as timeless truths, rights, and freedoms speaks volumes about you.
      Thank God for all our freedoms and rights!!
      This country, and so many of this countries once respected institutions, are being influenced and/or run by Fabians, Marxist, commie, fascist, dictatorial, morons.
      I am sure that there are many who would call me a moron for lumping those philosophies together but I in return would infer they ought to look in the mirror and then think about what all those philosophies have wrought on the earth and when all is said and done in history they have all wrought exactly the same in the end; slaughter, famine, and despair.
      We need to get these commie, fascist, Islamic terrorist coddling bunch of scum out of power in these United States. Then we need to work our tails off to get all of our freedoms and rights restored. We are the only hope left for this planet and for all those down trodden and less fortunate to look to as their hope for true freedom and all that it brings. We must stay united and take the hope, the light, and the right of freedom to every last corner and dark alley and to every last soul in this world.

    • VeeDub says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      More than 1 million babies are murdered every year using forceps. 
      How many does that add up to since 1861? 
      When are you going to step down from your hypocritical pulpit and demand obama write a law to take away women’s “right” to murder defenseless babies?

    • VeeDub says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      You are either uneducated about the War of Northern Aggression, or you have conveniently left out a few facts.
      U.S. Grant was a slave owner, before, during and after the war. The only slaves Robert E. Lee had, were inherrited, and he freed them 10 years BEFORE the start of the War of Northern Aggression.
      The Emancipation Proclomation ONLY freed slaves in the South. Northerners were allowed to keep their slaves until the 13th Amendment was ratified by Congress in Dec 1865, several months after the war ended.
      “If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side.” ~ U.S. Grant.
      “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union;” ~ Abraham Lincloln

  47. NavyVet says:

    OUR “Lexington” is coming fast.

  48. VeeDub says:

    THE most important thing the Founding Fathers did was tell us who had legislative (law making) authority, and the importance of that is why it was covered first;
    Quote “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”
    If “ALL” legislative power is granted to the Congress, how much does that leave the President?
    “ZERO”, “ZIP”, “ZILCH”, “NADA”.
    How much does that leave the Supreme Court? “ZERO”, “ZIP”, “ZILCH’, “NADA”.
    The President, NO MATTER WHO IT IS, has NO Constitutional authority to make ANY law!
    The President, NO MATTER WHO IT IS, has NO authority to change the U.S. Constitution.
    If Congress allows obama to do either, then THERE IS NO FURTHER NEED OF A CONGRESS ! ! ! !
    If CONgress cedes it’s legislative authority to the President, or allows the President to violate the Constitution, CONagress may as well close up shop and just sign the country over to him.
    The ONLY authority you have is authorized to you by the U.S. Constitution, and given to you by We The People, when we vote.
    The U.S. Constitution is what gives the President, the CONgress, and the Supreme Court their powers.

    • the Truth Seeker says:

      @VeeDub  Can you write normally or do you have some kind of psychotic debilitation. Get a life you feeble minded twit. The Congress is stalled by a willful group of troglodytes.  At this stage nothing will be done by the tail wagging the dog, Tea Bag Brigade. But change can come and the demographic and educational tide is turning. Let you gun nuts secede, it was tried in 1860.  So all you bleating about Congress and its rotten boro dunderheads means nothing to more than half the country. You appeal to the lowlife red neck dopes, so be it. Time will come for wising up. Your backward and backwoods hatred will wind up on the dustbin of history with the rest of Torquemadas of the past!

      • freedomringsforall says:

        @the Truth Seeker  @VeeDub With your seeming wish for an imperial presidency you are the one most wishing for an ultimate inquisitor not VeeDub

      • Randy Gaiser says:

        @the Truth Seeker @VeeDub Dear Truth Seeker, Please stand out front when the defecation hits the fan, so us GUN NUTS and Tea Bag Brigade types won’t have a problem identifying our TARGETS, You MORON.

      • VeeDub says:

        @the Truth Seeker
        Thank you! The fact that you had to resort to name calling proves that what I posted is fact, and upsets you because you are incapable of proving my point wrong.
        Being unable to carry on an intelligent conversation, and having use the childish tactic of name calling is really an indicator about people of your ilk.
        Having nothing intelligent to say, and left without an intelligent, FACTUAL response, you resort to that which you do best, attack and belittle in order to try and bring others down to your level.
        You are a credit to your ilk.

      • lightvdark says:

        @the Tooth Fairy—-Most atheists are sniveling cowards. SOME, AREN’T—– As an atheist, I am completely on the side of the religious in their war on communism.  Because no evidence supports their faith, the communist state attacks freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Apart from their brutality, torture and murder, IT IS THE COWARDICE THAT IS SO STRIKING”(^).»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?530-LIBERALISM-IS-COWARDCE-IT-S-EVERYWHERE-LITTLE-CHRISTIANS-SEEM-TO-SUFFER-THE-WORST!

      • VickiK says:

        Your hatred is so apparent – us “backward” and “backwoods” people are well educated and true Americans, which is something you seem to have no grasp of.  Read your Constitution and your history books.  Any society who is disarmed by their government is reduced to nothing.  Or maybe you don’t read, which could explain a lot.

      • lightvdark says:

        @the Tooth Fairy—- It’s funny, Ghoulfiend, how you pathetic weenies drive around in your death trap kiddie cars with your little Darwin fish on the bumpers. —————-
        http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/03.12/keynes.html —- John Maynard Keynes gave us more than just an immoral economic system……he passed on his life of degeneracy, perversion and pedophilia….____________
        “By a continuous process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method, they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some….The process engages all of the hidden
        forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million can diagnose.”” – John Maynard Keynes Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920

    • Ltpar says:

       Your rambling dialogue on separation of Constitutional powers is basically correct in theory, but short in reality.  The President has authority to circumvent Congress and suspend it by Execuutive Order.  All that is necessary for this to occur is for there to be a major national emergency, whether it be real, created or imiginary. What might constitute such an emergency, a rational person might ask?  For one example, how about bankruptcy of the country?  Overnight, the dollar becomes worthless.  People can’t buy food, gasoline or anything else and panic spreads.  The tinder boxes of major cities erupt into the usual rioting and burning by mobs, criminals and gangs.  It quickly becomes more than local Police can handle.  The President is called on by many States for help and he obliges by declaring “Martial Law.”  In the blink of an eye, signature on an already prepared Executive Order, the Constitution is suspended, Congress dissolved and all local and state governments federalized.  The country is run by FEMA, with federal, state, local law enforcement and the military serving as their enforcement arm.  High on the already prepared FEMA Action List will come consfication of all guns in the United States, under the rationalization of stopping the violence.  This will be tasked to law enforcement with the military as a back up.  At this point, the real shooting and active resistance will start, as most citizens refuse to give up their guns.  The enforcement arm will then be faced with a major dilemma, take up arms against their family, friends and neighbors or follow the Constitution and refuse such an order.  There will be some who serve the master instead of the Constitution, but I believe most will side with the people.  There is an organization called Oath Keepers whose members come primarily from law enforcement and the military, who have addressed this issue.  These men and women have pledged to defend the Constitution over all else.  This is not a pretty picture being painted and will be tenfold worse in reality.  People need to understand, the government has already drawn up plans for such a scenario and run table top exercises to practice a response.  What the government has not factored into their equation however, is the resolve and patriotism of at least half the country.  Proven leaders will step forward to lead those patriots.  The second battle for independence will be fought and won.  Truth Seeker, here is a bit of truth for you.  I am not a backwoods reck neck and with your attitude, it is clear we will be on opposite sides of the fight.  I look forward to that.  Semper Fidelis.

      • VeeDub says:

        My rambling dialogue?  How long was mine, and how long was your? 
        I’m reading article I, Section I of the U.S. Constitution:  “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”
        Could you please point me to where the President if given legislative powers.  His authority under Executive Orders is extremely limited, and can be slammed shut by CONgress if/when they ever decide to do their jobs.
        An EO gives the President power to “do” things.  EOs do not carry the weight of law.

        • marny says:

          @VeeDub  @Ltpar
           An EO DOES carry the full force of the law if not challenged by Congress within 30 days of publishing.

  49. donalde says:

    folks you speak up now or all can be lost. speak loud an long  make it be known that guns taken by this president will have a huge price that even he doen’t want to pay. shout at the top of your lungs till this is over. they must be made to know we will not stand to be disarmed an then be at their solalist will. speak or risk becoming  their led ..sheep. think thats funny think agin.

    • Canadianlady says:

      @donalde I believe that a civil war is exactly what your president and the political elites in Washington want.  This is the only credible thing to explain his and the corrupt media’s outrageous behavior in the last four years.  If you think about how many hundreds of thousands or even millions who could be killed by civil war, that would go a long way towards cutting social spending in America and towards reducing the unfunded liabilities that governments will soon be forced to reckon with.  America is teetering near financial catastrophe, and the frauds in the government, who pretend to represent the people, don’t want the people to know the cold, hard truth.  Better for them that Americans focus on the 2nd Amendment than on bankruptcy.  Better for them that Americans become embroiled in a bloody civil war when the nation is finally pushed over the financial cliff and the debtors start demanding their due.  So, for these reasons, I believe that the president DOES want to pay the huge price that’s coming.  The only thing that can save America is if the military and law enforcement officials refuse to come against the people they represent.  I pray to God that’s what happens.

  50. DelbertGue says:

    You forgot the 4th consequence, Resistance by the people.  In such a case it would start with simple civil disobedience and foment into full scale civil war.  I know many LE personnel and military who would flat refuse to fire on US citizens in a government attempt to confiscate firearms.  Consider if only 20% of the 80 million gun owners decided to resist and form a armed coalition against Obama and the US armed forces that would support him.  There definitely would be blood and it would all be on Obama’s hands for inciting such a reaction.  He has neither the constitutional nor moral right to usurp the constitution of the US. If the people allowed it, he still wouldn’t have the legal power.  When you consider the oath he and everyone in the US goernment takes, they not only violate the law but also prostitute themseles to power and their desire to have unauthorized and unconstitutional power over the entire population of the USA.  Obama knows this as well as Biden and everyone else in this administration. They have more than once proven their intent to take as much power as they can and grab it to enforce and enhance their positions.  If we as the people allow it to happen, we are no better than them and not desering of the constitutional republic our founding fathers provided for us as well as the ability to protect and defend it from the likes of our own government who is becoming, without a doubt, a clear and present danger to the constitution and american way of life. They may order us  to give up our guns, if they want them, let them come and try to take them. Some of us are old and weak, but our guns will make us equal to them and our determination to resist will insure if we die in our resistance, we will not die alone. There are many more like us, more than them. Some of us don’t have a need for any assault rifle or modern weapons. Our squirrel rifles may use black powder but many of us can fire, reload and accurately hit squirrel size objects at 100 yards. As far as I am concerned, a 2 for one exchange at our age is acceptable. How long could they last at thant rate? And that is with an antique. What knowledge do they have with revolutionary countermeasures and fighting a gureilla war? Modern weapons will neve be able to counter guerilla tactics.  Afghanistan and Vietnam should have taught us that.  Buzzbombs and drones can get expensie real quick and blue berets make excellent targets. Obama seeks to overcome with power, and he will use power in an attempt to overcome but he neither has integrity nor the leadership ability to overcome determination and right.  May god help us all.

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @DelbertGue Obama doesn’t care. He would welcome resistance as his “excuse” to try to impose martial law, crush the resistance, and consolidate his total takeover.
      We’re seeing a proposal to allow him a third term. If he can take over now, he thinks he won’t have to worry about seeking re-election. Dictator for life is his goal.
      He miscalculates though, his psychopathic narcissism doesn’t allow him to conceive that he will face massive resistance. He believes that the military and police will back him without question. He is wrong. Some will, and they will be dealt with as traitors. But most will refuse and will support the cause of freedom.
      If it happens, it will be ugly, but it will, in the end, result in a rebirth of freedom and the rule of law under the Constitution.

  51. mjsmart says:

    Please. I want them to try to confiscate my guns.One half the active army, and almost all former, will resist. The citizens will resist, and there aren’t enough body-bags in the world to cover the carnage. But, it will give an opportunity to definitively remove Liberals from leadership positions, and any avenues to harm our nation.

  52. CarlStevenson says:

    The author is wrong on one point. We ARE very near to the likes of the Stalin. Mussolini, and Hitler dictatorships!

  53. Brian Hill says:

    “Do not fear the gun, fear the government that wants to take your gun” A Little Gun History: In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. You won�t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it�s too late. The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are �citizens�. Without them, we are �subjects�. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED. If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun-control message to all of your friends. SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN. SWITZERLAND�S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. IT�S A NO-BRAINER. DON�T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

  54. patriotchic says:

    We have been divided as a nation, and not by accident. One of the oldest strategies in war is divide and conquer. We have to hold ourselves together and get behind the defeat of our common foe. The saying “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, should be used here. We don’t have time for differences, petty or otherwise. Black, white, rich or poor, we have to stand together and take our country back!

    • Ltpar says:

       We have already lost 52% of our population and unfortunately is is too late to hold ourselves together fully as a nation.  What we must do now is, hold together the 48% remaining and prepare them for dealing with the enemy in the future.

      • 1096crusader says:

        @Ltpar  @patriotchic

      • Dawn unhappy american says:

        @Ltpar  @patriotchic But even of the 52% how many are going to let some one take their guns???–I’ll bet there won’t be many that will let this happen. –I figure the ”ONE” life he thinks will be saved by this ridiculous action is his own. If some nut job is hell bent on murdering they will find a way. There are at least a trillion ways to kill without a gun. Will his next crazy idea be to remove our hands???

  55. Lorraine E says:

    It is my God given right to protect myself and another executive order to take that right away from me cannot stand.  My right under God is superior to any man made order and thus an executive order to take my God given right to protect myself is nul and void.

  56. 1096crusader says:

    Few actions would prompt enough people to violent resistance in the US.  Gun confiscation is one of those.

  57. askladybug says:

    How do we stop this man from making one executive order after another.  He is already a dictator.  He makes executive orders after congress has already voted against a bill.  That is against the constitution.  They knew there would be Presidents like him and they made laws to protect us from them, but Congress must call him on it and act on it to prevent him from doing it.  It is an impeachable act.  Why is this President getting away with this kind of stuff?

    • Burke02 says:

      @askladybug Because we have spineless wusses in congress? Congress isn’t going to do anything about Obama, it’s up to we the people. What do you think should be done?

    • RobertJones1 says:

      @askladybug He is blackmailing congress or has threatend  there life. It would not be the first time he has had someone snuffed.

  58. Burke02 says:

    But gun control worked for Mao, Stalin and Hitler…they slaughtered roughly 290 million people in the 20th century.

  59. Cranky Old Dog says:

    Eric Holder is presently protected via executive order from investigation stemming from charges of running guns into Mexico, under Obamas cloak of protection he is presently trying to figure a way to destroy the second amendment in this country among other things with Obama and friends.  Founding fathers saw these clowns comming over 200 years ago , hence the 2nd amendment .  Stand stedfast and defend your rights now or kneel and obey your masters  later . God Bless America!

    • parevolutionary says:

      @Cranky Old Dog I will not bow,I will not bend!!!!! Only bow to get a steady rest…God has blessed and continues to!!!

  60. J Joy says:

    By issuing an executive order on gun control, Obama will anger over half of the American citizens.  Many Americans are already tired of watching Obama throw a tantrum because Congress either didn’t agree with him or they didn’t act fast enough so he whips out his little pen set and signs executive orders.  Whether it is legal or not doesn’t concern Obama; whether it is the right thing to do or not doesn’t concern Obama; whether it goes against the Constitution or Congress or not doesn’t concern Obama.  He is a spoiled man-child who is only concerned with getting his way and he will lie, cheat, steal or whatever it takes to do that.  I am still surprised that just enough morons still believed his lying campaign and voted for him.  It’s too bad that their decision affects the rest of us.

    • askladybug says:

      @J Joy It is not enough to just be angry.  We have to do something.  I call, email my congressmen and senators all the time.  I let them know how I feel.  I tell my Democratic Senators if they don’t shape up I will campaign against them next term.  I used to be quite the campaigner in my day in Idaho.  Now I live in Oregon and have to deal with Democrats.  It is because of the unions that people here vote Democrat.  The unions tell them to vote Democrat.  One year my husband even voted Democrat.  He is in the electrical union.  He has never done it sense.  I used to be a dues paying member of the Republican Party.  I told my Senators I did not vote a Democrat to go to Washington I voted a man and told them all not to vote my freedoms away.  Tell your Senators the same thing.  It is a good gig being a Senator and they want to keep their job above all else.  Call yours and tell him how you feel.

  61. Ohio Fats says:

    What people don’t understand is the first ten amendments, also called The Bill of Rights, were put in place to protect the citizenry from their own government.  Remembering the oppression the colonies suffered under King George, The Founding Fathers wanted to ensure such oppression and violations of civil rights would never happen again. 
    In the (remote?) possibility some megalomaniac tried to return us to monarchial rule, The Law gives the people the right to oppose them by any means possible.  Barry Goldwater stated, “ I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!”  So it was in the beginning.  So be it today.  God bless this once-great nation.  God lead us back!

  62. DWinch says:

    Obuma is about to declare war on the American citizens, he doesn’t give a damn about crime control, this is a tyrant who wants to rule over those who will let him. I took an oath to defend America against all enemies and it still stands!

    • VeeDub says:

      I respectfully request to change that. 
      Obama is about to make the biggest mistake of his life.  And the result of his actions will be that America is about to declare war on obama AND CONgress!

    • EAGLETALON48 says:


  63. oldgallero says:

    Wasn’t it Obama who said'” That you should bring a gun to a knife fight.”Eric Holder got his nerve about having a data base for guns.I think him and Micheal Moroon are on the same liberal page.

  64. DustyFae says:

    executive order can not be carried out because he has not prove his self legal to be president, and when 2014 comes around, over 2/3 people will be weed from welfare, no jobs will they find and we will be killed for food, and this is the reason l want to keep my guns. These people will not be voted into another office again.

  65. wes wolken says:

    If any law (fake) or executive order would be an act of treason. These people at the least should be empeached and or jailed’ or worce.

  66. carguy427 says:

    Anyone who voted for Pres Obama and didn’t expect this is a simplistic idiot.

  67. capt Joe says:

    Alan keyes was right when he described NObama as ” a radical communist who wants to destroy America”
    The last election (which included a great amount of fraud)  tells us there are a lot of stupid people in the USA.
    I would be very surprised if we are not moving toward a civil war.

  68. Tiger12 says:

    excutive dission doesn’t not trump the constition. Bitem is blowing smoke as usual

  69. Tiger12 says:

    excutive dicision doesn’t not trump the constition. Biteme is blowing smoke as usual

  70. momo001 says:

    Here in NYC we are kinda screwed. We are already registered, but for those who haven’t yet done so, your rifles are personal property and cannot be registered as such.

    • VeeDub says:

      You need to get your hands on an old receipt book at a flea market or somewhere similar.  You don’t want a shiny new one.  Can’t find an old one, get a new one and leave it outside for several days.
      Make out a receipt showing you sold the gun(s). 
      Go through obits about 6 or more years old, pick out a name in another county, fill out the form, sign it with the hand you don’t usually write with or get someone to do it for you, and presto, you sold your gun.
      IF that violates some laws, then let them try and prosecute you for that misdemeanor, while you keep what is rightfully yours.

      • momo001 says:

        @VeeDub Canada resisted registration. They told the mounties that the guns went overboard while duck hunting. It took about 10 years but they gave up on the registration.

  71. Combat Veteran Seabee says:

    Anybody got a FIAT that could run his worthless a$$ over?

    • Tiger12 says:

      @Combat Veteran Seabee
       combat veteran Navy..executive decision can not overide the Constitution. Thanks for your service

  72. Tiger12 says:

    excuse me I was so insensed I got to speedy with keyboard

  73. VeeDub says:

    FACT CHECK TIME!   It’s time to destroy Piers Morgan, the (biased)@ truth seeker and others of their liberal/progressive/socialist/democrat ilk.

  74. ElderAl says:

    READ Article One, Section One of the Constitution.  It clearly outlaws executive orders, period.

    • marny says:

       ElderAl, you are absolutely correct (at least according to MY interpretation) – however, the Courts have ruled over the years, in more than one instance when the constitutionality of EO’s was questioned, that they ARE constitutional based upon a very broad interpretation of Article II, Section 1, which reads in part…”The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United states of America.”; and Section 3, which reads in part…”he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed…”.  When we add to this the fact that EVERY president since George Washington has issued EO’s in varying numbers from George Washington’s 1 to FDR’s 3,728; Reagan’s 380; George H.W. Bush’s 165; Bill Clinton’s 363; George W. Bush’s 291 and now, Obama’s 147 as of 1/9/2013, quite a precedent has been set that is not likely to be overturned.  So therefore, no matter what any of us posting on this site think about it – EO’s are LEGAL and have the full force of the law behind them if they are not challenged by Congress within 30 days of publication; and the Supreme Court has overturned ONLY 3, IN THE HISTORY of the United States of America!
      Knowing this, it seems prudent to me that WE, THE PEOPLE need to stop living in our “fairy-tale” world where everything works the way it should and start living in OUR REALITY, which is that almost nothing is working the way it should and our Constitutional Rights are being infringed upon more and more every day.  We can no longer just shout “They can’t do that because…!” and expect things to change because they have proven over and over that they CAN and they ARE DOING THAT!  The question we must answer is – WHAT ARE WE, THE PEOPLE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT???
      The Declaration of Independence, authored by Thomas Jefferson and approved in Congress on July 4, 1776 comes to mind.  An excerpt: “…that to secure these rights (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness), Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to ALTER OR TO ABOLISH it, and TO INSTITUTE NEW GOVERNMENT…”!

  75. allamerica says:

    Take out you guns America and Aim your cross hairs at the president and all those who are with him in his cabinet.  Peace officers, soldiers, whomever will be involved in the criminal act whether executive order or not will be treated as as someone in the Hitler SS squad as a bunch of thugs and ciminals!  Just like Paul Rever was saying the British are coming was because the british government was going to take away there arms from civilians so they could not protect themselves!!  Obama is a puppit taking orders from the Jusuit black pope!!   This is one executive order I will not follow if he should try to wipe this from constitutional law that I will refuse to follow like sheep going to the slaughter.

  76. AlbertusMagnus says:

    This guy is acting on a mandate that he never received!!! Half of the country doesn’t agree with him. I believe that he is a cunningly dishonest person who has deceived us from the start. I am a senior citizen who will not be able to keep my insurer once the money he took from advantage plans kicks in!!!! He lied to the country, and when the congressman said our loud “you lie” everyone was shocked by his outburst. It was true!!!!!!

    • VeeDub says:

      And half of the half of the country that did agree with him is on dope, dealing dope or making babies to get more “free” money.

    • wisewoman says:

      I suspect now that a lot of people have taken a peek at their diminished paychecks there are fewer Obama supporters in this country than there were.@AlbertusMagnus

      • RedMeatState says:

        @wisewoman  @AlbertusMagnus If Obama gets all the guns they won’t be able to complain ever again.

  77. braveheart 1 says:

    If Hussein was to bypass Congress and issues an EO he will be making a terrible mistake. Anyone who goes along with this unconstitutional law would be committing treason and should be removed from office for not upholding the oath they SWORE to protect. They are to be considered TRAITORS, not elected representatives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  78. Seymour Kleerly says:

    I think I’m witnessing a historical moment in America’s history. Tensions have always existed between rural and more populated and diverse areas of the country concerning gun control. But now we have a powerful media force in Talk Radio, Fox News, and sites like these funded by the super rich and Far Right Conservative organizations such as the NRA.. They are 100% in control of messaging (propaganda) and thus their audience’s opinions. Never saw anything close to this before. Instead of “lock and load” how about questioning your puppeteers first.

    • SJvet says:

      @Seymour Kleerly Please move to Russia, Venezuela, or Cuba, where you’ll be much happier, and so will we Americans.

    • lightvdark says:

      @Seymour Queerly,
      I don’t believe there is any GAYER WORD, that eminates from walnut sized brain of a Gliberal-Coward, than, PUPPET, OR PUPPETEER. AND YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION—-STOP DANCING——————
      Who is YOUR FAVORITE GAY, GOD-&-CHRISTIAN HATER¿? I LIKE LITTLE DANNIE SAVAGE!¡ GOODNESS, HE’S SCRUMPTIOUS—-http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/4bc666ca424b11e28ed122000a9f1311_7.jpg

      • Seymour Kleerly says:

        @lightvdark  @Seymour Well that sure proves I’m wrong. You must have been an excellent debater in college.

        • lightvdark says:

          @Seymour Kleer—I take no great pleasure in doing battle with you—-TRUTH IS NOT, RELATIVE!»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
          Psalm 34:21 EVIL SHALL SLAY THE WICKED! —————————
          Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible——————–
          Evil shall slay the wicked – The very thing in which they delight shall become their bane and their ruin.———————–
          They that hate the righteous – All persecutors of God’s people shall be followed by the chilling blast of God’s displeasure in this world; and if they repent not, shall perish everlastingly.

    • RedMeatState says:

      @Seymour Kleerly Have you questioned yours???

      • Seymour Kleerly says:

        @RedMeatState They have been consistently correct and don’t try to make us HATE our Conservative brothers.

        • lightvdark says:

          @Seymour Kleerly @RedMeatState—You hate us, without anybody’s encouragement. I’m not a debator. If I don’t know what I’m talking about, I don’t talk. SOMETIMES, I HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS. LIBERALS, DON’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THIS. YOU ONLY HAVE ANSWERS.

        • Seymour Kleerly says:

          @lightvdark  @Seymour I honestly  think that you do  believe that I “hate you” and for no reason. I don’t hate you but hate the Right’s Propaganda that is working so easily on you. Also when I first viewed this site all I saw was vile hatred towards Obama and Liberals. I’m a Liberal and I like Obama. I was encouraged by almost everyone on this site.

  79. MusicGuy314 says:

    If Obama thinks all the legal gun owners in America are going to surrender their guns (and freedom) because of an Executive Order, he is greatly underestimating the American people. I anything will start a civil war. And I mean WAR, not just a bunch of arguing and bickering, that would do it. It is also unclear how the military would react. On one side, Obozo is their “Commander-in-Cheif, on the other hand, the military is sworn to Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. They could easily join the citizens against this bunch of Washington traitors and take them out themselves.

  80. SJvet says:

    WE know obama is a communist and that one of the first steps in bringing in communism is confiscation of all guns.  What don’t people understand about this?

  81. DouglasMorris says:

    and America will watch DWTS, Monday Football, and be amazed by who one of the Kardashians will be sleeping with next week

  82. Greg137 says:

    This California shooting is proof that Liberal policies to disarm the people don’t work to makethe people safer, but it makes them more prone to attack! California has gun control laws, and the recent shooting proves that disarming the people increases the violence…  Mass shootings are happening, because the liberal media is glorifying these sick acts! And again California has strong gun-control laws.. For all that we know these gun control laws are the other main source of these killings…  
    Those who lie about everything about anything cannot be trusted… He who seeks to disarm the populace  has nothing good planned for the populace that they seek to disarm…  The Liberals know what tey are doing is wrong, which is why they are trying to disarm us…  If they try to take away our guns, then we need to kill as many of the liberal gun grabbers as possible..  Obama seeks to make himself a king, but we serve the constitution! The rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed…

  83. gombey100 says:

    Wikepedia states…. The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world with 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2009 compared to the United States’ 3.0 (over 40 times higher) and to Germany’s 0.21 (3 times higher)!!!
    Get your *FACTS* right before you print!!!!

    • jidell52 says:

      @gombey100 I wouldn’t be too quick to take anything found on Wikipedia as truth.

    • Combat Veteran Seabee says:

      @gombey100But in the larger picture, England has the highest homicide rate period. Even without guns! Imagine that! If I lived there, and could rightfully defend myself, I would be one LESS NUMBER on your stastic board!

    • RedMeatState says:

      @gombey100   What you need to look at is the violent homicide rate en toto.  The means is virtually meaningless.  Guns prevent far more crime than they cause.  You also need to look at the History of Gun Control and what it has lead to.

  84. TheWalsh says:

    For the past one hundred years or so, the progressive movement has been trying to overturn our founding contract and replace it with governance of the masses by philosopher kings, that is to say the educated elite. They are the people who want children to grow up “as little like their parents as possible”, to paraphrase John Dewey. These folks are mostly atheists or agnostics for whom, ends justify means. The idea of a constitutional right to arms as a safeguard against governmental tyranny is anathema to the progressives. They know that their program will be unpopular and they do not want to be deposed. The HHS mandate against our Christian conscience is a salient example of what the progressive movement has in mind. If you observe and analyze the things said and done by the progressives you will intuit a goal to disarm us, to force us to pay for abortion (perhaps someday like China to have abortions), to force even the Church to sanction gay marriage, and to erase religion from the public square and ultimately the private mind. I do not pretend to know the mind of everyone who calls them self a progressive but I think I have a fair assessment of the movement. Don’t let them disarm us. An unjust law is no law at all. ~Saint Augustine

  85. dover says:

    The US gov’t has stockpiled 1.4 BILLION BULLETS, of which at least 1/3 of which are hollow-point (which are forbidden under the Geneva convention in areas of battle) – now I want THEM to give me a plausible explanation as to why they have what mathmatically works out to be at least 3-4 bullets per person.
    Gumbo———- wikipedia is a leftist site that trells skewed “truths”. I wouldn’t believe anything I read there.

    • RedMeatState says:

      @dover those hollow points will soon be available at your local Army-Navy Surplus Store.

      • CarlStevenson says:

        @RedMeatState @dover
        “At the beginning of a 4th Generation civil war, everybody starts with a finite amount of ammunition. The ones who never run out are those who make every round count and thus are able to forage out the ammo pouches of the dead men who didn’t. That’s why marksmanship training matters.” – Mike Vanderboegh, Sipsey Street Irregulars, October 11, 2012

      • dover says:

         Oh They can be found in a lot of places..

  86. gombey100 says:

    As a Brit…. I can more or less confirm those statistics!!! We certainly do NOT have 16,000+ murders a year in OUR country!!!

  87. Ltpar says:

    VeeDub, Your rambling dialogue on separation of Constitutional powers is correct in theory, but short on reality.  The President has the authority to circumvent Congress and suspend it by Execuutive Order.  All that is necessary for this to occur is for there to be a major national emergency whether it be real, created or imiginary. What might constitute such an emergency, a rational person might ask?  For one example, how about bankruptcy of the country?  Overnight, the dollar becomes worthless.  People can’t buy food, gasoline or anything else and panic spreads.  The tinder boxes of major cities erupt into the usual rioting and burning by mobs, criminals, gangs and it quickly becomes more than local Police can handle.  The President is called on by many States for help and he obliges by declaring “Martial Law.”  In the blink of an eye, signature on an already prepared Executive Order, the Constitution is suspended, Congress dissolved and all local and state governments federalized.  The country is run by FEMA, with federal, state, local law enforcement and the military as their enforcement arm.  High on the already prepared FEMA Action List will come consfication of all guns, under the rationalization of stopping the violence.  This will be tasked to law enforcement with the military as a back up.  At this point, the real shooting and active resistance will start as most citizens refuse to give up their guns.  The enforcement arm will be faced with a major dilemma, take up arms against their family, friends and neighbors or follow the Constitution and refuse such an order.  There will be some who serve the master instead of the Constitution, but I believe most will side with the people.  There is an organization called “Oath Keepers” whose members come primarily from law enforcement and the military.  These men and women have addressed this issue by pledging to defend the Constitution over all else.  This is not a pretty picture being painted here and reality will be ten times worse.  People need to understand that our government has already drawn up plans for such a scenario and run table top exercises to practice a response.  What the government has failed to factor into their equation however, is the resolve and patriotism of at least half the country.  Proven leaders from the military, business and other sources will step forward to lead those patriots.  The second battle for independence will be fought and won.  Truth Seeker and SJvet, here is a bit of truth for you.  I am not a backwoods reck neck and with your attitude, it is clear we will be on opposite sides of the fight.  I look forward to that.  Semper Fidelis.

  88. RichardSeufert says:

    My gut says beware of January 22nd.  The official 2nd term begins, and Stalin is not far behind.

  89. tomjeffrey says:

    Now you know why he wants an internal armed force as strong as the military.  Can you say “Republican Guard?”

  90. Ithamar says:

    The US is not Great Britain, Italy, Germany or any other country whose citizens have allowed themselves to be disarmed (actually the tide seems to be turning in Italy toward rearming society). Especially in the Southern states, US citizens will not be disarmed. There will be consequences to any real attempt to disarm Americans, even by Congress, much less, by Executive Order. There is a vulgar saying that Obama and Biden would do well to head: “don’t let your jaybird mouth overload your humming bird azz.” But these ignorant and vulgar people will probably not stop until they have crossed the point of no return.

  91. jerry282 says:

    They would be alot of dead people in front of me when they come to get my guns

    • Ltpar says:

       Jerry, very commendable.  That said, as an individual you will be quickly overpowered and eliminated.  As part of an organized group, you might have a fighting chance.  Find that group and get organized.

      • JimRed says:

        @Ltpar  @jerry282
         “As part of an organized group, you might have a fighting chance.  Find that group and get organized.”
        You have just solicited jerry282 to enter into a conspiracy…beware the next knock on your door!  < /sarc >

  92. wisewoman says:

    I am sick of hearing “if it saves only one life” when applied to this issue.  What if one life is taken because of gun “control” and that one life had no way to protect him or herself?  If what I am reading is correct, for every mass shooting there is one (or more) that is prevented BECAUSE a law-abiding citizen was armed and able to defend the innocent. 
    It is amazing the things the main stream media will tell us — and even more that it won’t.  No bias in the press, of course!!

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @wisewoman guns are used by law-abiding citizens about 2.5million times per year in the US. In most cases, not shots are fired. The mere presence of the gun causes the criminal to turn tail and run.
      When you look at the govt stats, you find that guns save something like 65 times more lives than they take.
      Most gun crime is gang banger on gang banger, either turf wars or drug wars, or a combination.

  93. c440th says:

    That’s great news! Let’s get the attorney general involved.Remember Eric Holder,the judge covering up the illigal gun running scam called The Fast & Furious,run by our own good old BATF.He’s the guy you want on your gun banning! He will be abled to sell them to the Mexicans.

  94. prbrown60 says:

    To  rule by executive order, or by decree, is a true sign of a marxist dictator, This Musim President has proven he is anti-American, has no regard for the Constitution, which when was sworn to uphold and protect when took office.  So, therefore, he lied under oath. He has no regard for the U S Constitution, which he has  violated, time after time, when Congress has failed to pass any proposed bill, then did a round-end run and declared the law be executive order,  This shows he has no regard, for the Constitution, the government, nor the American people, who were stupid enough to put this self-serving traitor back in office.  He now wants to repeal Amendment 22, which limits the number of terms a President can serve, which is two.  If this socialist marxist does get this repealed, and he does get a third term,  we will have His Highness King Heusein Obama.  Outlawing goes does not work,  Look and Britain,  Military and law enforcement only can own or carry guns. So now they use kitchen knives.  So now they want to outlaw kitchen knives.  The point is, outlawing a certain type of weapon does not curb violence.  These animals will only find another type of weapon to use. Anything in reach can be used as a deadly weapon. How about bats, Do we then outlaw bats. How hammers, axes,  Once these become weapons, do we outlaw them as well.  In others words, as long as these murderous tendencies exists, people will find something to use as a weapon.  So to repeal the 2nd Amendment is unAmerican and unconstitutional.  If this President stays on the course he’s on, their will be civil unrest and civil war.

    • JimRed says:

      “He now wants to repeal Amendment 22, which limits the number of terms a President can serve, which is two.”
      And outside of blogs and conservative websites I have seen nothing about it in the media.  Can you imagine the media furor there would have been if the same proposal had been made during the first month of George W. Bush’s second term?
      The fourth estate is truly the enemy’s fifth column, embedded among us.  They should be high on the target list when physical resistance becomes necessary.  I used to say IF resistance becomes necessary…

      • JimRed says:

         No edit feature here, so a correction: outside of blogs, conservative websites and by FOX NEWS commentators…

  95. Ron says:

    I will NOT surrender my firearms – they really will have to kill me to take them.

  96. CorkyRowe says:

    All I can say is that whoever they send to start the disarming and confiscation of our guns, they better be wearing very effective body armor, which doesn’t do much good when you’re hit with a headshot.

  97. MrLucky says:

    Well, do you morons see how many people have changed their minds in favor of gun control! Could it be how you morons raise your children? Oh No, it couldn’t be! Could it be the mentality of the American public! Could it be these killings are staged by the government! Oh no, the government wouldn’t do anything like that! The government would do and say anything to get it their way and you people are stupid enough to believe the government!

    • Combat Veteran Seabee says:

      @MrLucky “Any government that is large enough to give you all that you need, is also large enough to take all that you have.” Thomas Jefferson

  98. braveheart 1 says:

    My friends, There’s a big difference between an oathtaker and an Oathkeeper!!!!!!!!!!

  99. NavyVet says:

    The curtain is about to go up on our Third Civil War – just as soon as OUR “Lexington” happens.

  100. the Truth Seeker says:

    Who says that the right wing is stupid? Well the late William Buckley, the former editor of the National Review, and a real conservative said, and I paraphrase, “Not all conservatives are stupid, but assuredly most stupid people are conservative.” The answers here reflect that obvious truth. Troglodytes of the right love to find some arcane reasoning to defend the indefensible.  You  folks, and I use that word liberally and without the malice I maintain, have put forward your ridiculous views and claims often. You Luddites make specious claims all day long.  You claim that the liberals and progressives are communist, but you wouldn’t know Karl Marx from Groucho Marx. There is absolutely no connection between our government and our economic society with socialism, communism or fascism. You connect the dots of history with an irrational lack of logic and slight knowledge. You folks are the poster children for  “a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.”  You scholars seem to have forgotten that guns in the hands of both the Nazis and the Communists overthrew a decent government, the Weimar Republic and an autocratic one, The Romanovs in Russia. The fact that you have guns has no affect on the policies of a democratic republic, and if you moronic clowns think that you will threaten the Federal government or continue to black mail legislators with threats, guess again. If and when the Courts wish to take your guns they’ll do it in the same way gold was called in and liquor was banned.  Not every law is correct or sacrosanct. In the same way you misogynists hate women and oppose Choice, many millions hated the Fugitive Slave Law and the Volstead Act and Prohibition.
    But you folks, who think you are Constitutional scholars wouldn’t  know the Bar, which would have to approve your character from the one you lean against when you are tipping the yome. As to weapons of mass killing, they have little to do with James Madison legacy, the 2nd Amendment, the establishment of militias as a compromise to assuage the anti-Federalists or anything else.
    Modern scholars Thomas B. McAffee and Michael J. Quinlan have stated that James Madison “did not invent the right to keep and bear arms when he drafted the Second Amendment; the right was pre-existing at both common law and in the early state constitutions.” In contrast, historian Jack Rakove suggests that Madison’s intention in framing the Second Amendment was to provide assurances to moderate Anti-Federalists that the militias would not be disarmed.
    Therefore, one aspect of the gun control debate is the conflict between gun control laws and the right to rebel against unjust governments. Some believe that the framers of the Bill of Rights sought to balance not just political power, but also military power, between the people, the states and the nation, as Alexander Hamilton explained in 1788. Those days are long over.
    Guns kept in the home are more likely to be involved in a fatal or nonfatal unintentional shooting, criminal assault or suicide attempt than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense. Having a gun in the home is associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home, regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home. Rather than conferring protection, guns in the home are associated with an increase in the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance. The relative risk of dying from an unintentional gunshot injury is 3.7 times higher for adults living in homes with guns, with handguns in the home posing a particular threat. States with higher rates of household firearm ownership have significantly higher homicide victimization rates. People who keep a gun in their home are almost twice as likely to die in a gun-related homicide and 16 times more likely to use a gun to commit suicide than people without a gun in their home. A study of firearm storage patterns in U.S. homes found that “[o]f the homes with children and firearms, 55% were reported to have one or more firearms in an unlocked place,” and 43% reported keeping guns without a trigger lock in an unlocked place. A recent study on adult firearm storage practices in U.S. homes found that over 1.69 million children and youth under age 18 are living in homes with loaded and unlocked firearms. So have guns in your homes and when one of your off spring blows you away, society will say too bad, but good riddance.
    The U.S. has the highest rate of firearm deaths among 25 high-income nations. Another study concluded that among 36 high-income and upper-middle-income countries, the U.S. has the highest overall gun mortality rate. The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children under the age of 15 is nearly 12 times higher than that among children in 25 other industrialized nations combined. 
    In closing, the greatest Republican icon in the 20th Century is the late Ronald Reagan. He supported the Brady Bill which authorized backgrounds checks for gun purchases and when he was governor of California, he signed a 15 day waiting period for the purchase of a gun.
    So keep up the threats, the invective, the slander, the insults, the ridiculous perversion of history and the senseless support of Merchants of Death.  Change will come with you or without you.

    • Navyman says:

      @the Truth Seeker Clearly you have NO CLUE as to what the 2nd amendment is really all about. And IF you were to look at history you will see those that were the early “progressives” like TR, Wilson and FDR you can see clearly they were the early commies in this country, Wilson and FDR for sure. FDR was in bed with Stalin in WW II. Obama is following in their foot steps and he has done more to take away our freedoms and rights in such a short amount of time with one exec order after another, MORE than any other.
      ALL dictator countries have one thing in common, TOTAL gun control where ONLY the gov has the guns. Hard to fight guns with rocks. WAKE up !!!

      • Ltpar says:

        @Navyman   @the Truth Seeker
         That’s Comrade Truth Seeker to you Navyman.  He is clearly a follower of the Pied Piper of Chicago and talking to him is lthe same as trying to knock down the brick wall running head first into it.

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Tooth Faerie, Leftism is NIHILISTIC-SUICIDE. SO IS CHRISTIAN PACIFISM.——————-The late M. Scott Peck wrote, that the MENTAL DISEASE, WHICH
      ENCOMPASSES EVIL, IS PATHOLOGICAL-NARCISSISM—— http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/06/narcissistic-rage-envy-and-bullying-at.html?m=1
        “Narcissistic rage and envy: The narcissistic individual … is prone to intense anger, an irrational rage, which may take the form of acute explosions or be chronic and vengeful. This NARCISSISTIC RAGE is provoked by the slightest—real or imagined—narcissistic insult, such as not being seen, understood, or appreciated, in the way one feels he deserves. Narcissistic envy may arise; one hates anyone who has (or seems to have) … external acclaim and feels pain about not having what the other has. (“The Point of Existence”)”

    • Ltpar says:

      @the Truth Seeker
       Groucho Marx was funny, Karl Marx was not.  
      Look at America today with it’s social programs and try and kid yourself that we didn’t move into Socialism many years ago.  The below quote says it much better than I can:
      We can’t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.”         by:Nikita Khrushchev – 1959

    • parevolutionary says:

      @the Truth Seeker clearly sir you are a highly educated moron

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @the Truth Seeker your “facts” are falsehoods. I won’t waste my time to elaborate, since virtually everything you’ve said is untrue and you will never be convinced.
      As was said by Sam Adams,
      “If ye love wealth better than liberty,
      the tranquility of servitude
      better than the animating contest of freedom,
      go home from us in peace.
      We ask not your counsels or your arms.
      Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
      May your chains set lightly upon you,
      and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Tooth Faerie—-Fear not, Tootie—Christians, who FEEL, that God loves Evil people, as much as He does Good, are quicker to FORGIVE TERRORISTS AND COMMUNISTS, THAN THEY ARE ME—-YOU’RE WINNING¿!¡__________________ __ So, we see a case of causeless, self-destructive hatred. This senseless and absolutely irrational self-hatred could be explained by only one thing: the suicide syndrome characteristic of cultures in their last stage of dying. In lack of ideals, vital forces, and even instinct of self-preservation they surrender themselves to barbarians, with flattering and even masochistic humility give themselves up to rough and despotic conquerors. http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/07/pinnacle-of-self-destruction.html?m=1

  101. jerry282 says:

    Rember MR. Prez. and Mr. VP the Japs would not invaid the USA because the people were ARMED and will always be. armed .  You might start looking for a new job or Country would be the best. You better reconsider what your asking the Amercian people to do, could cost you and your cab. alot of head ackes. The kind that don’t do anything but get bigger.  You have alot of Xmilitary that know how to use a weapon and we were trained by the best.  and by the way my gun is between my legs my weapon is in my arms. USA 67-70

    • parevolutionary says:

      @jerry282 this is my rifle,this is my gun…this is for shooting,those is for fun :)

      • texaselect says:

        @parevolutionary We told our recruits ” This is your Weapon, this is your gun, This is for Fighting, this is for fun. You must be a Marine. ☺ Semper Fi USA 71-75

        • parevolutionary says:

          @texaselect no sir,never served although I thought seriously about it when got out of school,at times I wish I would’ve done it…..got that from a friend a long time ago,he served in the Army in the early 80’s…..Semper Fi

  102. Don Ross says:

    If the militia is disarmed or has a limit on what kind of weapons we can have as a Militia then the Goverment will out gun us and our right to take up arms against a dictatorial or unconstutional goverment will be useless. It will be pea shooters against assault weapons. Our forefathers took up arms against the opressive British and wanted to be sure we had that same right. That is the reason for the second ammendment.

  103. Ltpar says:

    VeeDub, to answer your question and will try not to ramble although it is a detailed process.
    Martial law is an extreme and rare measure used to control society during war or periods of civil unrest or chaos. According to the Supreme Court, the term martial law carries no precise meaning (Duncan v. Kahanamoku, 327 U.S. 304, 66 S. Ct. 606, 90 L. Ed. 688 [1946]). However, most declarations of martial law have some common features. Generally, the institution of martial law contemplates some use of military force. To a varying extent, depending on the martial law order, government military personnel have the authority to make and enforce civil and criminal laws. Certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of Habeas Corpus may be suspended (this writ allows persons who are unlawfully imprisoned to gain freedom through a court proceeding).
    In the United States, martial law has been instituted on the national level only once, during the Civil War, and on a regional level only once, during World War II. Otherwise, it has been limited to the states. Uprisings, political protests, labor strikes, and riots have, at various times, caused several state governors to declare some measure of martial law.
    Martial law on the national level may be declared by Congress or the president. Under Article I, Section 8, Clause 15, of the Constitution, Congress has the power “[t]o provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel Invasions.” Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, of the Constitution declares that “[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.” Neither constitutional provision includes a direct reference to martial law. However, the Supreme Court has interpreted both to allow the declaration of martial law by the president or Congress. On the state level, a governor may declare martial law within her or his own state. The power to do so usually is granted in the state constitution.
    Source for the above information:  http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/martial+law
    For additional see: 

  104. Mynickelsworth says:

    The president is exceeding his Constitutional authority by using such executive orders, some are already in effect that bypassed Congress.   He Swore an oath to uphold the Constitution but, of course, that means nothing to a Muslim – they can do “anything” that aids Islam.
    My question is:  What is wrong with the Legislative Branch?  Why do they allow usurpation of their Constitutional powers?  Is it a lack of backbone or is it that they do not really care?
    The article is correct, we are very close to becoming another Iran.

  105. braveheart 1 says:

    The biggest reason obama wants to ban assault rifles is because you would be evenly matched when he sends his gestapo to try to disarm you. A single shot wo’nt do you much good,if you know what I mean!!!!!!
    Also, there appears to be alot of prisons closing down lately, which could be used for concentration camps. Just a thought!!!!!!!!

    • texaselect says:

      @braveheart 1 As a Veteran Sharpshooter / Sniper I beg to differ weather a single shot will do damage LOL Cut the head of the snake off as in take out the officers and leaders, the body will die.

  106. The Texas Cooke says:

    He can’t go around Congress….He can’t go around the Constitution….He can’t go around my State….and he can’t go around me.

    • parevolutionary says:

      @The Texas Cooke it was funny how he executive ordered the fed pay raise but Congress shut it down immediately

      • The Texas Cooke says:

        @parevolutionary  @The
         Unlike when Lincoln used and Executive Order to liberate private property from citizens of a foreign country….EO abuse is not new….it’s just new to us.

    • texaselect says:

      @The Texas Cooke He damn sure isn’t going to go up against us in Texas.

  107. donl says:

    Our Communist Dictator wanna-be is a coward as all commie left’s are, when he outlaw’s guns he will be a target of the free world. The last free country in the world.

  108. braveheart 1 says:

    When a government becomes abusive, it is the right of the people to abolish it and form a NEW government.It would take a few million True Patriots to clean house in D.C.

    • the Truth Seeker says:

      @braveheart 1 Keep on drinking that 151 Rum – it will dull the pain of no brain!

    • texaselect says:

      @braveheart 1 We have more than a few Million ready and able to do it, that is what they are afraid of and that is why that Punk “truthseeker” is posting for Obama as a paid troll. “make them think there is no hope to defy us….yeah we get that “seeker” FU

  109. fighting for freedom says:

    politicians in free societies no longer serve the interest of the people but support thse that pay for them to get into their offices – the PAC lobbying organizations and the corrupt political campaign contributon system that sets up shell entities easily cloaks the chinese and muslim power grabbers so that their dictatorial methids can be instituted and have their hand up ovomits back to legislate the unraveling of the most independent and free republic in the history of mankind with the motivation to institute One World Government which is hell bent on genocide of the “useless idiot offals’ as supported by the bleak and declining amoral society purported into acceptance through the liberal media – as soon as they confiscate your weapons, although many never had algebra in high school and may be the very idiots they are trying to eliminate, they still represent the embodiment of “Of the people, by the people and for the people – an additional step to eliminating our economic power is the transferrence of the NYSE to the inter-continenta lmarket wherein we no longer own our own markets – take a tip from the aussies whom no longer own weapons legallywhich happened prior to the chinese buying their resources and their farm land – when the resource yield is no longer available, is there hope that the chinese will allow the roos access to their indigenous food supply since they will not be able to defend and demand that they be fed with food grown on their own land – not probable; in the same breath, isn’t soros hell bent on becoming an agricluturalczar in this country attempting to buy up kansas an missouri farmland by attempting to foreclose on generational famrs by having the Dept. of Interior mismanaging the flood levees resulting in floods where the generational farmers were not able to produce normal crop yields and, more convincing is that farm subsidies are now being considered for elimination since this is what has carried these generational farmers through the previous floods – just this week the weather channel indicated that the winter precipitation in the dakotas and minnesota may result in flooding again – if the farm subsidies are eliminated then the land willbe available to soros at fire sale prices . Yhe only thing warranting our continued way of life is the fear the chinese and the liberal politicians have with the gun owning public to thwart their desired confiscation of any and all assets – further behavior conditioning is the eliminating the htought of ownership as leasing an automobile, already a poor investment keeps you on the treadmill as that lease will become due requiring you to further incur debt to lease another as your credit further sinks enabling you to only lease a careing placed on what percentage of your income can be considered when applying for a mortgage loan – last i knew, slaries and compensation has been dwindling so the opportnity to own a home is being all but taken away as the real estaqte market turns but real estate profits are mostly being derived from foreign invetors – not individual citiznesf executive ordes approaching oer 200 from the ovomit administration since his motives are considered in exact opposition to maintainig the free will and self-determination which is the foundation of democracy – did we not establish this nation due to the oppression of a tyrant Govt that was taxing its citizens beyond their capacity to maintain financial independence – the chinese will be rewarded by ovomit through elimination of employers requiring to have to pay for health benefits ( O’care replaces it as provided by your govt.), unemployment compensation is not desired to be paid by the chinese so that is now being bandied about by the media and the wlefare entitlements are exceeding the cap acity to fund a strong military which is the only entity bringing civility around the world – he has to go

  110. the Truth Seeker says:

    Navymoron= your ship has large holes. You have no clue who or what a commie is and your insults to some of our greatest public servants reflects the paucity of your brain and the worthlessness of your cause. Go back to the Military Channel, they are replaying the Battle of Kursk. By the way they clown, the Ruskies won that one! Any Bund meetings for you to attend?

  111. MYS77 says:

    Is anyone in America not clear how dangerous and demonic this idiot is???? Media where are you? Military where are you??? Lawyers where are you??? Judges, where are you???? Governors, mayors, police chiefs, where are you??? Hollywood….Oprah, Clooney. Barbara Walters, is he your man still????  Citizens….. you let this happen, and less than a decade from now… you set yourself to be controled not by laws….but by the end of gun. And who do want to have guns,…. the citizens… or and ever growing “militant” government who see you as nothing but an economic slave to them. Every person has the responsiblity to make your voices heard and heard loudly. Do it, or you will be forever silenced like so many other countries around the world. We fought to be free…. don’t throw it away thinking it won’t happen. DON’T LET IT HAPPEN AND KNOW THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS COUNTING ON YOU NOT FIGHTING HIM!!!!!

    • texaselect says:

      @MYS77 Good news — it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms.
      It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.
      According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect “any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.”
      CNN is calling it “a gift to the nation’s powerful gun lobby.”
      And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that’s exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010.
      24 RIGHTS.—
      26 A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require
      2 the disclosure or collection of any information relat3
      ing to—
      4 ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully5
      possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or
      7 ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of
      8 a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
      10 of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the
      11 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
      12 amendment made by that Act shall be construed to
      13 authorize or may be used for the collection of any in14
      formation relating to—
      15 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
      16 a firearm or ammunition;
      17 ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammu18
      nition; or
      19 ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or am20
      22 BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Sec23
      retary under the Patient Protection and Affordable
      24 Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall
      25 be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain
      HR 3590 EAS/PP
      1 records of individual ownership or possession of a
      2 firearm or ammunition.
      ANCE.—A premium rate may not be increased, health
      6 insurance coverage may not be denied, and a dis7
      count, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
      8 a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld
      9 under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or
      10 in accordance with the Patient Protection and Afford11
      able Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on
      12 the basis of, or on reliance upon—
      13 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
      14 a firearm or ammunition; or
      15 ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm
      16 or ammunition.
      QUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall
      19 be required to disclose any information under any
      20 data collection activity authorized under the Patient
      21 Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
      22 made by that Act relating to—
      23 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
      24 a firearm or ammunition; or
      HR 3590 EAS/PP
      1 ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of
      2 a firearm or ammunition.’’.

      • JimRed says:

        @texaselect  @MYS77
         ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PRE4 MIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSUR5 ANCE.—A premium rate may not be increased, health 6 insurance coverage may not be denied, and a dis7 count, rebate, or reward offered for participation in 8 a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld 9 under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or 10 in accordance with the Patient Protection and Afford11 able Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on 12 the basis of, or on reliance upon—13 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of 14 a firearm or ammunition; or 15 ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm 16 or ammunition. 17 ‘‘
        The key word in all these provisions is “LAWFUL”  When the regime’s agenda is completed there will be very few lawfully owned firearms with the capability to resist the oppressors.

      • VeeDub says:

        @texaselect  @MYS77
        Don’t pin your hopes on this. It’s written in legalese, so it can be twisted.
        Look at the word “LAWFULLY”. How will a doctor or his staff know whether or not the weapons you own are “lawful”? They can’t, unless you bring them in for them to look at. SOOOO they will document everything anyway.
        Next: While obonga cannot “legally” change the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights he can issue executive orders.
        He has no Constitutional authority to make any law, (U.S. Constitution Article I, Section I)but he can make certain weapons, magazines and bullets “unlawful” by EO.
        THAT is where they’ll kill any hopes of this clause helping gun owners in any way.

  112. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lightweightbrain- what stupor were you in when you crafted that screed? Does your mother know that you are using a controlled substance and a dangerous machine, a computer.

  113. MYS77 says:

    Two words….TAX REVOLT!!!

  114. the Truth Seeker says:

    Good luck, Tom Turkey, the Virginia Militia is revving up and the next campaign though the Shenandoah Valley is about to commence. I am sure sure a Stonehead like you would be right at home with another Bible Thumping nutcase, old Stonewall Jackson. Maybe one of your own troops will shoot you!

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Gay Boy In Bondage»»»»» Even Li’l-Christians find this, WAY-ICKY¿!¡»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
      DO NOT GIVE WHAT IS HOLY TO DOGS»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
      “”Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces” (Matthew 7:6, NKJV).”
      “Jesus here refers to a class who have no desire to escape from the slavery of sin. By indulgence in the corrupt and vile their natures have become so degraded that they cling to the evil and will not be separated from it. The servants of Christ should not allow themselves to be hindered by those who would make the gospel only a matter of contention and ridicule. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»

  115. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lipar, quick get to the medicine chest and get your Lipitor.- I think you and your ilk are going to have a stroke. By the way the phone is ringing. It’s Joe McCarthy calling from Wisconsin, he wants a reference for some real patriots. I gave him your name!

  116. the Truth Seeker says:

    Davy Crockett- when you are ready for the next Battle of the Alamo, just call me up. I ready, willing, wanting, wishing and well armed to take on Santa Anna when he comes across the border again. I’ll stand with you shoulder to shoulder, pancho to pancho and sombrero to sombrero. Thank G-d for Tejanos, because without them we would be short on bullsheet!

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Terrible Tw00s»»»»» Pythagoras** was fairly BRIGHT, WEREN’T HE GHOULFIEND¿?»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
      **There is a GOOD PRINCIPLE which created ORDER, LIGHT, and MAN, and an EVIL PRINCIPLE which created CHAOS, DARKNESS, and WOMAN. Pythagoras
      Bad men cannot make good citizens. IT IS WHEN A PEOPLE FORGET GOD THAT TYRANTS FORGE THEIR CHAINS. Patrick Henry

  117. PghVince says:

    HELL NO!!!!
    If those ugly idiot libturd basturds ‘ignore’ OUR laws, without repercussions, so do WE, the people!!!!
    STUFF IT, baboon!!!! ovomit is NOT the president, he has NO right to tell US what to do or make demands of any kind, of anyone, for any reason!!!!

  118. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lipitor- what happened to fat, little Nikita? He’s long gone and Uncle Joe and the Supreme Soviet are gone too. But, you are right, they all moved to Georgetown and gave up the Dachas on the Black Sea. How many more of these Soviet moles can you find? Alan West is dying to know what you know!

  119. the Truth Seeker says:

    Parevolutionary- another Sandinista on the loose. Lucky thing Chesty Puller hunted him down. He’d be right here fighting the contras, who are protecting the feckless Pentagon. Boy I can’t wait until you guys rally together on the Mall. Maybe you’ll meet Forest Gump. Aren’t you man-child dopes getting bored? Get a gal, get some 151 Rum and live it up. Just remember who pays your VA bill, your Medicare, your Medicaid, your special help for momsers, its us the Blue State folks!

  120. the Truth Seeker says:

    Carl you should have read your cousin Robert Louis’ book Kidnapped. For I feel so sorry for anyone that is close to you. I have been reading about BU’s study on NFL head injuries. It’s a long affliction. Has your brain been kidnapped? You are quoting Sam Adams, who the was tossed aside by the his peers. Good thing he got into the beer business in Beantown. You could use a few gallons of the bubbly to soften the blows you have taken by playing with Gerald Ford and without a helmet.

  121. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lightweightbrain! Huh! Could you translate that for the West Coast. Do you also speak in tongues and hug poison vipers? There is help for you. But if Paul Ryan gets his way, mental health will  be a board game and a line in an old history book.

  122. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lightweightbrain You should read Goodspeed and the Gospels and study the Sermon on the Mount. After you do that, say three Hail Marys and call me in the morning. I am off to the sunny Caribbean so I will be unavailable to answer any more of your insipid remarks. Aren’t we a great country, where mind dead folks like you can be supported?

    • lightvdark says:


  123. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lighterweighlessthangreymatter- I am off to catch MSNBC and Rachel Maddow. She’s devoting a whole show to the Lunatic Fringe and you should be interested, because you are the star of the show! Make sure your piece is locked up, you don’t want to wear it off tonight. (You thought I meant your Smith  and Wesson?)

  124. violator1 says:

    obama can go fu(k himself!

  125. the Truth Seeker says:

    More info – gun clods!
    Australia, with gun control, 22 million population, 19 gun deaths. Arizona without gun control and 6.5 million and 323 gun deaths!
    Despite a surge in gun-related offenses in the early 2000s, the past seven years in the U.K. have seen successive drops in gun crimes — a consequence, some argue, of the country’s tougher laws on gun ownership. Of course, such measures aren’t enough to wholly prevent mass killings. In 2010, a taxi driver with a shotgun and a rifle cruised around the idyllic Lake District of Cumbria, northern England, killing a dozen people in a shooting spree that shocked the country. The shooter had no history of mental problems and his guns were legally owned and licensed.
    On the other side of the world, just a month after the 1996 Dunblane attack, a shooter in the town of Port Arthur, Tasmania, went on a rampage, killing 35 people in what is the worst single episode of such slaughter in Australian history. The then months-old old government of conservative Prime Minister John Howard — who would go on to rule for over a decade — initiated a sweeping set of reforms, even in the face of opposition from allies in Australia’s right wing. The new measures banned the sale and possession of all automatic and semiautomatic rifles and shotguns. Moreover, the government instituted a mandatory buyback scheme that compensated owners of newly illegal weapons. Between 1996 and ’98, some 700,000 guns were retrieved by the government and destroyed. The results have been tangible: A widely cited 2010 study in the American Journal of Law & Economics showed that gun-related homicides in Australia dropped 59% between 1995 and 2006. The firearm-suicide rate dropped 65%. There has been no mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur attack.
    Looks like you idiot savants were misinformed. Boo hoo, Uncle Sammy will take away your toys. You’ll have to get a ducky-wucky for the bath tub, or you could play with your other piece. Less dangerous and not a multiple clip, but it used to be more powerful. Soon you folks will be using Red Rider bebee guns.
    Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/12/17/when-massacres-force-change-lessons-from-the-u-k-and-australia/#ixzz2Hd7dZj7f

    • DaleRobbins says:

      @the Truth Seeker  You don’t have a clue to what a truth seeker is. And you’re another ignorant liberal who listens to what the media (liberal, socialist media) tells you and you believe it. Ignoramus, get a life and start doing some research outside of your little liberal socialist box. And by the way, America isn’t Australia or UK. We broke the chains of Britain’s tyranny and we will do the same to black man from DC.

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Hysterical-Gay-Godless-NIHILIST——-TRANS-FAT, SECONDHAND-SMOKE, FETUSES, ADULTHOOD——-WOOF—– http://www.dadi.org/hysteria.htm —–
      An intriguing analogue to the feminist hysteric is the homosexual activist. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), within the hysterical context, has also said that “in both sexes overt behavior is often a caricature of femininity.”

    • texaselect says:

      @the Truth Seeker Go play with a Train dip shit. Sit on a rail and let it run your sorry ass down. My toys as you call them are mine to shoot communists with when and if that time comes. Your Obamasiah is a fu)king coward who will learn a very harsh lesson if he pushes his luck with the American People. We Will Not Comply you coward. You idiots are so pathetic, sitting in an Oblama Mis-information Room at a computer screen typing your socialist crap. FU

    • lightvdark says:


    • Patricia Teague says:

      @the Truth Seeker 323 gun deaths in Arizona, I’m surprised it wasn’t more after Holder sent all those guns to the Mexican Mafia’s.  You obviously do not live in a boarder state, I do, the only thing keeping the violence of Juarez etc. on ‘that side of the boarder’ if the fact that Texas, NM, Arizona and southern California are armed. 
      They do do fear our federal government, why should they, the Feds gave them the guns to murder thousands in Mexico, they fear the average American who will shoot them if they come and break in their houses or shoot their families.  We are kind of strange like that you know, conservative or liberal out here we know that our lives depend on the ‘thought’ that we just might me armed, though not all are, because it is the assumption that we just might be that protects us. 
      You cannot assume, well I suppose someone like you can, that drugs, violence and murders will not flood across the boarder if we are disarmed, exactly how far North do you live?  Chicago’s gun laws have lead to increased murder, drugs and violence.  How does that translate into your safety?  If the economy crashes as it looks like it will how will people hunt game for food for their children?  If no game to hunt, will they hunt in your house and mine?  What’s to stop them? 
      Gun control works as well as Communism, from each according to their ability to each according to their need.  Sounds great on paper, but the reality is far different than the ideology.  No guns, no violence sounds great until the reality of the fact that criminals will always have guns and law abiding citizens….will not, great on paper reality is a far different matter.

    • RobWeiss says:

      Another thing, hippie, I live in Arizona. You and your propaganda couldn’t be more off. There was not 323 deaths in AZ last year from guns. How about traffic deaths??? That number jibes.
      Go eat red meat, will you? Tofu is making you appear to me even more of and idiot than you really are. We  “Savants” as you like to call us,  will keep what we have to rid the country of the likes of you.
      Just like the Libs in Vermont and now New Hampshire are trying to make Republicans so uncomfortable that will want to leave the state: Why don’t you go live in a Country that has taken away guns from its people?  I am so tired of hearing people like you extoll the virtues of such a place. Well, how about this. We’ll keep the US gun friendly. You, if you don’t like it, go live ANYWHERE else but here!

    • VeeDub says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      Land Mass:
          Europe- 10,180,000 Sq/KM     US- 9,826,675 Sq/KM
           Europe- 836,398,000              US- 309,496,000
      Murder Rate: …
      Europe- 4.83 per 100,000          US- 4.58 per 100,000
      Gun Ownership:
      Europe- 12,000 per 100,000          US- 90,000 per 100,000
      CONCLUSIONS Europe’s murder rate of 4.83 per 100,000 is higher than that of the United States’ 4.58 per 100,000, but has only 14% the civilian gun ownership of the U.S. Conversely, the U.S. has 7.33 times the civilian gun ownership of Europe, but a lower murder rate.

    • VeeDub says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      Just the facts, please.
      Piers Morgan and liberal loons like The Truth Misleader, destroyed in 4 minutes

  126. momo001 says:

    Blue States don’t pay for jack sh/t. They steal from everybody to engraciate themselves. Yea you know! Like Poulson giving himself millions in tarp money. Now the FED GETS 85 billion every month that the people give to the FED and 45 cents on every dollar is interest on top of that dollar we give them. Move to France and get taxed 75% on earnings. Now you have paid for your all your expenses – snails, wine, and you get to live next to a terrorist.
    We don’t take a dime unless we’ve earned it. When it comes to weight , we carry our own. How’s your Obama Phone!

  127. the Truth Seeker says:

    Dale where’s you pony Buttercup-how much horse pitute can you shovel. Since when do right-wing clods like you have a wit of knowledge. You alarmists and paranoid chicken littles are the laugh of this country and the civilized world. So keep it up, its still funny. But,. when you get out of hand, watch out. We don’t need macho man pistollas to make up for other inadequacies. But, rave on McDuff, only your dopey peers are really paying attention.

    • RobWeiss says:

      @the Truth Seeker  Keep it up! Comments like this will be done away with when the dust finally settles from taking our rights away. I know for a fact that Obum has wanted to do away with the second amendment since he was in Chicago!! Once that is done, your fourth amendment rights will go to hell too. Probably will want to curb your first in the process.
      Keep thinking this way, hippie. Pacifists like to scream and cry about their rights. The rest of the nation actually DOES something about it. Can’t wait for the Tea Party to rise up from this mess and do away with the wierdo, progressive/regressive, liberal commie pinko wing of the jack ass party.
      Go cut your pony tail off while your at it!!

  128. the Truth Seeker says:

    Boy are you unhinged- get a priest, he needs the last rights!

    • lightvdark says:

      @ ONE OF the Feminists’ NEUTERED-PUPPIES—-BOO¿!¡»»»»»»» The ridiculousness of the Feminist poseur would be laughable if the culture were not allowing itself to be intimidated into submission. If there is anything the Feminist cannot tolerate, it is humor (except male bashing) or truth, especially if it challenges their incantations. 

  129. braveheart 1 says:

    truthless seeker, you sound like a far left liberal gutless coward. The truth will set you free!!!!!!!

  130. franseaaz says:

    After reading some of these comments, I had to go back and refresh my memory as to what everyone is talking about.  It’s guns, and our 2nd amendment rights.  As far as I’m concerned, there isn’t anyone big enough in this country to take those rights away, and if Obama thinks he is, I refer him to “vilator1’s” comment found below.

  131. lightvdark says:

    http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/violence-and-homosexuality/ »»»»»
    Although the total number of victims dispatched by a given killer is often in doubt, (e.g., homosexual Henry Lucas claimed that he killed 350), it appears that the modern world record for serial killing is held by a Russian homosexual, Andrei Chikatilo, who was convicted in 1992 of raping, murdering and eating parts of at least 21 boys, 17 women and 14 girls. The pathology of eating one’s sexual victims also characterized Milwaukee’s Jeffrey Dahmer in 1992. He not only killed 17 young men and boys, but cooked and ate their body parts.The top six U.S. male serial killers were all gay:

  132. fighting for freedom says:

    truth seeker – please realize that australia does not share a border with the mexican drug cartels; further, the australian refugee issue has resulted in increased popert damage wherein the refugees would certainly resort to weapons if they could obtain them as many are from Sudan wherein rule by AK-47  is the norm – when they run out of resources and their standard ofliving cannot be maintained, do you think that the chinese would hesistate to arm these animals as their protection force opposing invasion of the agricultural land they have bought in australia – by that time, the 5 years grace the australian provide for not working will be over for a great number of these animals and then they will prefer to be paid for the chinese to carry weapons for them under the auspices of protecting personal property as at that time the australian leadership willbe bought off lock stock and barrel
    I prefer not to charcater assasinate you as you did to the premises previously posted as my resolve cannot be swayed as history repeats itself and if one does not learn from their history and plan with the lessons learned from said history to carry into the future wherein the writing is all but on the wall, then one is doomed to be a conscript; enjot the coming chinese manufacturing plants coming to the USA as repayment for the treauries that have supported ovomits false economy  – don’t expect unemployment compensation and healthcar will be provided to you through an already not able to fund O’care – you’ll wait 6 months for an mri for that cancer screening you will need from being exposed to industrial standaqrds as these will also be waived once they realize they can b/c there is an enormous amount of untapped or unemployed prodcutive individuals in this country that are currentlyunemployed – what is ovomits immigration plan – its to allow the very same animals into this country as that are showing up in australia as they will be required to protect the soros plantation as well as the marcellus, dakotas and th e newly drilled texas area. Are you awrae that the chinese are drilling off the coast of florida in cuban waters under cuban licenses as parsed out by the world oil fund whrein ovomit ceased offshore driling only to fund petrobras in brazil of which soros is a large investor – none dare call it conspiracy – none dare call it treason

  133. braveheart 1 says:

    truthseeker,You speak with fork tounge.

  134. johnjay says:

    teddy roosevelt issued 3 exec orders, then the next pres was FDR who issued 11 in 16 yrs., from truman to the 1st Bush each pres averaged approx. 2 exec orders per 4 yr. term.. Clinton made 15 in 8yrs., but George Bush came in and made  62 exec orders in his 8 yrs.  Any idea where Obama was at as of Sept. 2012?  923 in 3.5 yrs.  And some of them are incredible.  Congress has not pushed back, what can we do?

    • askladybug says:

      @johnjay Where did you get your information.  Obama for the last 90 days + has been signing 66 executive orders a day.  That comes to over 6,600 by the last count.  If Congress votes down a bill he wants he threatens to write and executive order.  That is against the Constitution and he knows it, and he has already done it many times.  It is an impeachable act, but no one calls him on it.  It is because it has to be done in the Senate and as we all know the Senate is filled with Democrats.  I don’t get it.  I really don’t.  It’s like these Senators think they belong to a biker gang and if they vote against the leader they will be rubbed out of something.  I phoned my Senator, a Democrat, and told him I did not send a Republican or a Democrat to Washington I sent a man and I expect him not to vote away my freedoms or I will be campaigning for a Republican next election.  Take all this useless anger and direct it in a direction that will help  Tell your representatives how you feel.  Go online, find out who they are and either email them or phone them or fax them.  They want to please, because they want to keep their cushy job.

      • marny says:

        @askladybug  @johnjay
         Oh my goodness, askladybug – where did YOU get YOUR information? You have been so “right on” in your other postings that I cannot imagine where you retrieved these numbers unless it was from one of those multi-forwarded chain emails that is thoroughly whacked out!  First – writing executive orders is NOT AGAINST the Constitution – the Courts have upheld it throughout the course of our history based upon their overly broad interpretation of Article II, Sections 1 and 3 as I detailed out before. Also, it IS NOT AN IMPEACHABLE ACT. There are guidelines for writing executive orders, but over the years, chief-executives have played a little fast and loose with those guidelines, especially THIS chief-executive, but nevertheless, they are perfectly legal and become law unless challenged by Congress within 30 days after publishing, and Congress has a long history of being lax about challenging any EO.
        Second, as of January 9, 2013, Obama has issued 147 EO’s, not over 6000 as you state.  The official numbering of his EO’s begins with EO#13489.  I urge you to check out 1461days.blogspot.com for a continuously updated listing of the O-man’s Executive Orders. Third – to address johnjay’s erroneous EO count attributed to other presidents, here are some of the correct numbers: George W. Bush – 291 in 8 years; Bill Clinton – 363 in 8 years; George H.W. Bush – 165 in 4 years; Ronald Reagan – 380 in 8 years; and skipping all the way back to FDR – 3,728 in 12 years – FDR being the only president (so far) to serve 3 terms.  These numbers are TRUE and can be easily checked out in the National Archives where each president’s EO’s are listed according to number and what they were about.  Please, please people, make sure you know what the facts are before engaging your mouth. It makes “our” side look bad when we appear to not know what we are talking about and we need to look as knowledgable as possible so they know they are not pulling a fast one on us.  Citing erroneous off-the-chart numbers as “facts” really confirms to them that we are a bunch of “dummies”!

    • marny says:

       INCORRECT! FDR issued 3,728 in 3 terms in office with 573 of those being issued in 1933 alone; G.W. Bush – 291 in 2 terms (8 yrs); Bill Clinton – 363 in 2 terms (8 yrs); Geo. H.W. Bush – 165 in 1 term (4 yrs); Ronald Reagan – 380 in 2 terms (8 yrs); and Barack Obama – 147 as of January 9, 2013! Please get your facts straight, people!

  135. fighting for freedom says:

    the she wolf of incontinence needs to demean upstanding men in their convictions as her vanity of emptiness can only be justified through oppsing those of conviction – when you find the rationale ground between your hysteria and delusion thinking all over the emotional ladder,maybe you willrealize tha wearing a burkha is not that comfortable nor is getting your tongue cut out should you not be able to voice your transgressions only supported through the rights protected by the might of our military against these barbarians – yes, this may seem very mortal to you but i am in control of my life and prefer to remain this way so that i can seek the peace and happiness that christ wants me to obtain

  136. lightvdark says:

    During the Nazi reign of terror, Auschwitz executioner Ludwig Tiene strangled, crushed, and gnawed boys and young men to death while he raped them. Though his grand total is uncertain, he often murdered as many as 100 a day. Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard) brutally destroyed the lives of 800 boys. Each lad was lured to his home, bathed and fed. Just as the poor boy thought “this is my lucky day,” he was raped, then killed by being ripped or cut apart and either burned or eaten.

  137. RichardTaylor says:

    More and more control. That’s all it is.

  138. WereAllScrewed says:

    He had better be careful here, if intends to SUBVERT THE CONSTITUTION by himself,  he has “sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States”.
    I believe the American People would demand he be tried for Treason  “TREASON IS PUNISHABLE by Forfeiture of Property, up to Life in Prison including DEATH”! 
    His slim win by 51-49% is no guaranty when it comes to subversion of the constitution!  Not all Liberals think the CONSTITUTION is just a piece of old paper that he can wipe his a@@ on.
    Maybe he’s that stupid but I don’t think so.

    • askladybug says:

      @WereAllScrewed Well, that won’t happen.  Here is a truth you are forgetting or just don’t know.  A President cannot go to prison.  The most you can do is kick them out of office, or impeach them. Now after they are out of office you can maybe do something to them.  Nixon was kicked out of office for erasing 18 minutes of tape.  Obama does transactions on his own computer.  The President is supposed to keep a record of everything he does so everyone can keep an eye on everything he does.  All of the cabinet does official business on their own computers.  They have it on a program that deletes everything whenever they log off.  These Democrats think laws are there to be broken.  This is a President who has men killed all the time.  He has his little spy plane do it for him or someone else do it for him.  One young reporter asked V. President Byden about the spy plane that swooped down and took out not only the intended target but his little son too.  The young reporter asked Byden if he thought that was right.  Byden turned on this kid and yelled at him and told him to grow up of course it was right.  I personally think these people should be captured and trials held if they are truly criminals who have killed Americans.  For us to become terrorist ourselves does not seem like the way.

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @WereAllScrewed The Constitution was written in large part to protect 49% from the tyranny of 50%+1

      • CarlStevenson says:

        And the 2nd amendment was written to protect both the People and the Constitution from tyrants.

  139. the Truth Seeker says:

    I may sound that to you, but you sound like a jerk to the world. You sound like that kid in California who took up a shotgun because he was bullied. Can’t you clowns take it? You are all pathetic wimps, fearful of ideas, scared of shadows, worried about commies. Didn’t you hear the Berlin Wall collapsed and we won. It’s all over, just remember how stupid and fearful the Japanese soldiers were on Guam and the Philippines when the surrendered in the 1960’s. Don’t you realize you are fearful and stupid?

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Comrad_Dhimwit»»»» Atheists are LITERALLY, INCAPABLE OF CONDEMNING EVIL. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» http://thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/adultery-lower.jpg
       Caption—Muslim countries have lower rates of adultry.

    • icetrout says:

      @the Truth Seeker See your still blowing the “TOAD” shill… :O

    • askladybug says:

      @the Truth Seeker You are also misinformed.  The Communists are still in charge and still hate America and still trying to hurt us.  How?  Simple.  The KGB are the ones that turned Islamics from not just Jewish haters but American haters.  All they had to do is tell the Muslims that the Israel’s got their money from America.  That is all it took.  You see the Communists are smart.  Why fight us when they can get someone else to fight us for them.  The KGB went to the Arab nations and trained the Muslims in the art of terrorism.  Mitt was right Russia is still our enemy.  All of their weapons come from Russia, except for the ones Obama gave them.  After all Obama belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood.  My son heard him say at a Muslim Brotherhood Conference that he was one of them and that they were growing stronger every day.  Do you know why they bombed the tower and killed the Ambassador on 9/11?  It is because it is the founder of the KGB’s birthday.  The date means nothing to the Muslims but it does to the Russians.  The truth about the wall?  You are probably too young to remember, but I’m not.  The air polution was so bad that people were very sick.  The Russians wanted them to go across the border to the other side of Berlin so they could get medical help.  That way the bill would be on the US.  They used us to clean up their mess.  We didn’t win anything, except the freedom of those behind the iron curtain.  Then West Germany went into East Germany and started putting regulations on the factories and cleaned up the ground and air and water.  Now it is just as clean as West Berlin.  The Russians won.  Do you know what stops a bad guy with a gun?  A good guy with a gun and the police are never where they are needed.  If they know someone in a house has a gun, they will stay outside.  In California, in a city that went bankrupt they told people to get a gun and protect themselves because they didn’t have enough funds to pay the police.  In Switzerland everyone has a gun and there is no gun crime of any kind.  I think it depends on the people with the guns, like the gangs.

  140. WereAllScrewed says:

    Don’t waste your time replying to the Truthsucker,.  You can’t cure stupid and you can’t argue with it either.  Some people just don’t get it and never will!

  141. the Truth Seeker says:

    By the way the Fast and Furious non-story was debunked by that commie rag, Fortune Magazine. Don’t hear much from Cong. Issa much on the subject. He’s been cooled down quite abit.
    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) issued a comprehensive report in 2000 detailing firearms trafficking investigations involving more than 84,000 diverted firearms, finding that federally licensed firearms dealers were associated with the largest number of trafficked guns – over 40,000 – and concluded that the dealers’ “access to large numbers of firearms makes them a particular threat to public safety when they fail to comply with the law.” According to ATF, one percent of federally licensed firearms dealers are responsible for selling almost 60 percent of the guns that are found at crime scenes and traced to dealers.
    Nearly a quarter of ATF gun trafficking investigations involved stolen firearms and were associated with over 11,000 trafficked firearms – including 10% percent of the investigations which involved guns stolen from residences. A 1997 U.S. Department of Justice survey found that 8.4% of state prison inmates who used or possessed a firearm during the offense for which they were incarcerated obtained the gun from the illegal market. Random inspections by ATF have uncovered that a large percentage of dealers violate federal law, and that percentage is growing. An estimated 40% of the guns acquired in the U.S. annually come from unlicensed sellers who are not required by federal law to conduct background checks on gun purchasers. Nearly 80% of Mexico’s illegal firearms and most recovered crime guns in major Canadian cities are imported illegally from the U.S. Doesn’t look like they were from our government!
    Speaking of shootings in schools, in 2009, the most recent year for which data is available, approximately 81% of workplace homicides were committed with a firearm. While workplace homicides have decreased steadily over time, the rate of shootings committed by co-workers or former co-workers has remained steady, with an average of 45 homicides by shooting committed by a co-worker or former co-worker per year between 1992 and 2006. A 2005 study found that workplaces where guns were specifically permitted were five to seven times more likely to be the site of a worker homicide relative to those where all weapons were prohibited. A U.S. Secret Service study of 37 school shootings in 26 states found that in nearly two-thirds of the incidents, the attacker got the gun from his or her own home or that of a relative.
    College student gun owners are more likely than those who do not own guns to engage in activities that put themselves and others at risk for severe or life-threatening injuries, including reckless behavior involving alcohol, driving while intoxicated, and suffering an alcohol-related injury. One study found that two-thirds of gun-owning college students engage in binge drinking, and are more likely than unarmed college students to drink “frequently and excessively” and then engage in risky activities such as driving under the influence of alcohol and vandalizing property.

  142. the Truth Seeker says:

    I am way too old for that type of hair do! But, I am well-o,ff long retired with Ivy League married children, living in a very up scale, suburban townhouse and I am off for Palm Beach from a small airport north of Manhattan.  I” be playing some tennis, they have some great Har Tru courts in Weston and I’ll be meeting friends from Miami Beach to Palm Beach Gardens, but everyone was told to leave their piece behind. By the way all of those Floridians are well educated, with lovely families, socially well-adjusted and most voted for Obama. They are all capitalists, believe in the system, don’t hate or fear America and unlike you chicken littles, they fear not the sky being about to fall. But I’ll be down there for weeks, I won’t miss you clowns on these sites and you folks can have your little piece of the web all to yourselves. The only thing I’ regret is I have to rent a car down there, and nothing drives like my S-Type racing green Jag. Its tough being a stupid red neck, but somebody has to do it.

    • lightvdark says:

      @TRUTH WOULD KILL YOU—CONSCIENCE, MAKES US HUMAN. YOU WILL NEVER GET HERE. ————-I wish we could use your venom to light our homes—-ADIOS, ENERGY CRISIS!———————————
      What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? 

    • icetrout says:

      @the Truth Seeker Go blow a toad :O

    • Patricia Teague says:

      @the Truth Seeker If you are telling the ‘truth’ you have vacationed in Arizona, and are planning a vacation to Florida, congratulations I have vacationed in both.  Have also played tennis in Florida in the past, not my favorite game, but when in Rome as they say.
        Too bad no one is as impressed with you as you are.  Personally I love my green 4 wheel drive Ford Explorer over a jag, they are so hard to get in and out of and it’s hard to see ‘over’ the other vehicles at lights to see what’s coming but to each their own.
      Have a wonderful time, you will not be missed.  Oh and when you look up, it’s not the sky that’s falling it’s judgement coming down on ‘folks’ (I have learned to hate that word) like you.

  143. the Truth Seeker says:

    I love Arizona and stay at the Sheraton Keirland when I am in Scottsdale. Been to the Frank Lloyd Wright home at Taliesen West a few times, the dinner theater down Scottsdale Avenue in Mesa, Old Towne, Tuscon, Flagstaff, and many times to Sedona. Funny I have never met any AHs like you folks. You people must be on the border with your BB guns looking for varmits and interlopers. How’s that crazy Sheriff from Pima Countey, Joe Arpaio. Hasn’t he tracked down the President’s birth records yet? I am sure the Donald has paid him handsomely. Too bad there’s nothing to find. I wanted to buy a house in your wonderful neck of the woods. Love Cave Creek and all the shops. By the doomsayers, the DJIA may break 14,000 in a few weeks, and it looks like 15 million cars will be sold. I am glad I am holding on to my Ford stock which I bough in single digits, it’s moving towards 14. Looks like the Blue States are doing decently well. Yes we have our problems, but we supply most of the tax money to you reprobates. I believe the Red Neck States are at the bottom of the old dung pile when it comes to negativity. Let me count the ways.
    Speaking of these evangelicals and the “Red States” where they exert so much political clout and legislative influence, in the November’s Vanity Fair magazine (please access the following site: http://louisvilledivorce.typepad.com/info/2006/11/red_state_blue.html ) one can read about the “real” national statistics on morality. The “Red States” lead in violent crime, overall crime, divorce, illegitimacy, infidelity, multiple sexual partners, rape, incest, teenage mortality, drug abuse and incarceration. One should ask why?
    As to illegitimacy rates, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, of states with the highest percentage of births in 2003 to unwed mothers, 9 of the top 10 are “red” states. The rate for teen mortality by suicide, homicide and accidents, despite their state’s reputation for family, religious and moral values, was much higher in the “red” states. In fact the top ten states regarding that statistic are “red,” and the bottom ten are “blue!” Not only that the top ten states in alcohol dependence and abuse, are “red” states. The incidence of venereal disease is 40% higher in the “red” states.
    With, all that in mind, maybe there should be some public healing with regards to all of these “frocked and unfrocked” folks. There should be a little more introspection regarding their role in our society. How do like being cast as the fool in every national drama?

  144. the Truth Seeker says:

    Yourallscrewed- for sure you are screwed up. Treason you say! That’s farcical. Any other big words you wish to pew forth? This is extremely entertaining. Too bad most Americans don’t read this drivel. So the Pres will be tried for treason, good luck, you clown! I gather the more you urban terrorists screech the more the 2nd Amendment will look like the 3rd and be as meaningful as the do do bird.

    • icetrout says:

      @the Truth Seeker  PISS-OFF DNC SHILL…

    • icetrout says:

      @the Truth Seeker DNC SHILL…

    • lightvdark says:

      @Person_Of_The_Lie»»»»I don’t go where EVIL PEOPLE ARE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE¿? —————-Proverbs 1:32———-
       For the waywardness of the simple (MINDED) will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them;_______Proverbs 5:12
       You will say, “How I hated discipline! How my heart spurned correction!

  145. the Truth Seeker says:

    Icetrout – that’s quite a statement! I know people who like frog’s legs, but blow a toad. Woof! Does your mom know that you are up late and talk to strangers like that. She just may wash your mouth out with that industrial strength Lava soap. It doesn’t smell pretty, but it does the job.. By the way get a piece of charcoal and go down to the train yard and write something original on the wall.

  146. Dave says:

    I don’t ever remember the President being given the “right” of executive order by the Constitution as he is NOT part of the gov’t process that actually makes laws. I could be wrong…anyway the people in the Senate, Congress and House have no back-bone what-so-ever. They could stop all this cold, but they won’t as it is not politically correct to do so.

    • parevolutionary says:

      its a very grey area!!!

    • marny says:

      Dave, as I posted earlier, the president has the “right” to issue Executive Orders by virtue of Article II, Sections 1 and 3 of the Constitution, as upheld by the Courts over the years. And Congress has very few options to stop this from being done.  The Courts have struck down only 3 EO’s in the entire history of the United States and EO’s were being issued by presidents as far back as George Washington, so this is nothing new.  What is new, however, is the continuous “creep” of usurping the power of the legislative branch and bestowing more and more power upon the executive branch that has seemingly gone ballistic during this administration.  To be fair, George W. Bush did his share of “usurping power” as well, but his excuse was 9/11.  What excuse does this president have?  This is why it is so vitally important that ALL of us become educated about the inner-workings of our government so that we are not caught like a deer in the headlights when something like this goes down.  Our government KNOWS that with the dumbing-down of our education systems, that far too many of us do not know what we are talking about and can be led astray by anyone who “appears” to have the answers.  Lest we all come across as fools, we must learn about not only executive orders but every other aspect of how our government is supposed to work.  EO’s become law and we are living under many of those laws this very day.  Study and learn what YOU can do to help remedy this situation.

  147. Mike Bellringer says:

    He, Obama, is a fake US citizen and a fraud who should be in jail. He is a contrived puppet of the New World Order, but I think they think they made a mistake. Wake up USA.

  148. lightvdark says:

    Denzel Washington got into BIG TROUBLE, not long ago, by saying—-MOST ATHEISTS ARE SOCIOPATHS. This little Truth Sneaker Thing, comes over here, sneering, snarling and INSULTING us and everything we love. THE LITTLE GUY DESPISES US AND HIS OWN COUNTRY.————————————————————————————
    #3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very “successful” sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.

  149. paulendes says:

    Look, just because there is an executive order doesn’t mean squat, stand fast, stay true, guess who is really out gunned? Not the public. So come to confiscate guns, I garantee I will not be the one knocking on doors or raising prices if you own a gun, I’m not that stupid. But obviously some people are…unbelievable. Wake up America, it is the end times here.

  150. Richard Vandervort says:

    We gave our votes to the GOP because of their promise to protecting the people and just what did we get but more false ideology’s.
    Republicans in Congress said that they would defund Obamacare yet what did we hear from the GOP speaker of the house but a very lame “Well, I Guess Obamacare will be the Law Of The Land” This sure doesn’t sound like their fighting for us now does it.
    Commissar Obama is out to disarm us all and leaving us fair game to the criminal’s and a lawless government and I’m never going to let that happen.
    Liberals seem to think we’re not smart enough to know what their allusive motives and utopian schemes are all about, The desire to bring the public into the dependency of government.
    If we demand Congress to do their job and make Obama show the people as well as the world that he’s even eligible to hold office let alone be sworn in again for another term his Executive order days will come to an end quick.
    The time to act is now and your reasons to complain will end later, We must put a end to Commissar Obama’s Tyranny Now.

    • VicBailey says:

      @Richard Vandervort Congress and the Senate are self centered chickenshits. And when it’s over, so will be their jobs in our new government! We have NO USE for TRAITORS! Them on Bama’s side will go to Leavenworth, Kansas along with him! They will be tried and shot! Just like all traitors in all wars! Semper Fi.

      • Richard Vandervort says:

        @VicBailey Vic, I do have to agree that the Senate and Congress are indeed afraid to act and our general public seem to be to complaisant to fight for their very rights under the Constitution too.
        I have never wanted to see our nations destruction but the infiltration of government by Communist has put us into the most dire positions we could have ever imagined.
        One of my greatest fears is that a full repeat of the 1775 Revolution will be needed to restoring freedom in our country.
        Secession is another option and one that may be our own single best choice to ending something like this from ever happening again in this country.
        The hand-writings on the wall and if people don’t take the time to reading it freedom will be gone forever.

  151. askladybug says:

    Obama was a very misguided child I am thinking.  He had a communist mother and grandfather, he was raised in Indonesia as a Muslim and he is gay and in an arranged marriage.  His wife is Rev. Jackson’s daughter’s best friend.  He hates colonists, which America is.  He hates all whites and especially all Americans.  Look at what he has done so far.  He is so self centered he now thinks he can do no wrong.  No he believes no one can stop him.  He believes he is the highest authority in the land and no one will stop him.  He shows he cares little about rules or law.  He has a way with words like Hitler did.  Hitler was loved by his people and most of Europe, until he went nuts and started taking everyone’s guns and killing people right and left.  Obama is power drunk.  What we need to do is put the fear of God and re-election in the hearts of the Senators and Congressmen.  If you know who yours are contact them and let them know how you feel.  They all have cushy jobs they want to keep.  My Senators from Oregon have F grades on everything.  Yes they are Democrats bless their pointed heads.  We need to Republicans in the House to become leaders not the mice and followers they are right now.  They are being lead by their pointy little noses to do whatever the Democrats say to do.  I do not know what power this President has over them, but we have to find a ways to break that power.  It is not enough to be angry.  We have to channel that anger in a useful direction.  We cannot have another civil war.  Do you not remember the last one we had?  I do not think the local sheriffs will participate in taking away anyone’s guns.  Not everyone is a sheep to be lead.  If I were up there they wouldn’t push this grandma around.

  152. FUBO says:

    Molon Labe, If you want our freedom, our liberty and our republic, come and take them. There is no other choice.

  153. PaulChristensen says:

    Here is the way it works.  You have a lunatic who commits a crime and kills some people.  /So you want to get even and so you pass gun laws.   The gun laws do not affect the lunatic but only end up affecting the good people the people who would never harm anyone but only use it for self-defense.  Then and only then is the playing field even.  If Obama wants to save the lives of innocent people he should ban abortions.  That is the first place to start.

  154. the Truth Seeker says:

    Off to Palm Beach this morning- LadyBug you are quite mixed up, not dangerous, but on the edge. Go jump!

    • askladybug says:

      @the Truth Seeker How in the world can my comments be on the edge.  As far as I can see I am the only voice of reason speaking.  I state facts and what I know from personal experience.  I have been around a long time and I have seen a lot.   I am not the one mixed up, but honey you are.  You seem so angry, but I am just not sure who you are angry with.  Maybe you just like confrontation.  Thank you rpg963.  Sometimes I get it right.

  155. rpg963 says:

    Askladybug you are dead on right.  The rest of the country better figure this out soon or we may all be finding out what the Europeans went through, and there is no longer a USA to come bail us out.

  156. the Truth Seeker says:

    Lady Bug- your post is so pathetic, so antediluvian, so beyond the pale of reasoning that any sane person would not know whether to laugh or cry. Since I am leaving, and I do not want my mail box cluttered with tripe that people like you fulminate, I am unsubscribing. Normally I would wish good luck to a tortured soul like yourself, but as Rhett said in Gone With the Wind, “frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”
    What I continually learn from reading these sites is that people may not be clinically sick or mildly delusional, but for sure they are partially disturbed, paranoid or radically confused. This communist menace reminds me of John Nash in A Beautiful Mind.  But, so be it. We have a lot of people here, over 310 million and there are a lot of opinions, good, bad and ugly. If you folks wish to beat your heads against the wall and rail against life and be bitter and accusatory, who am I to care. I can’t cure all psychosis and we still are a free country. Even dopes, kooks, mental midgets and fools are allowed to express their way out thoughts and conclusions. By the way, while we are at it, the Moon is not made of green cheese, and we actually landed there. In closing, are you aware that 8% of our population doesn’t believe we landed on that surrounding body, and most, if not all of them, are like you, right wing, lunatic fringers.

    • askladybug says:

      @the Truth Seeker lol  I think you are the one that has lost touch with reality.  You must be one of those who believe if we just ignore it it will go away.  Or we live in America and that can’t happen here.  Or it’s not as bad as we think.  I had one person tell me that they believed Obama was the anti Christ and they were just going to leave him in God’s hands.  I know this much.  God will not do for us what he has asked us to do for ourselves.  Whether or not we have a good government is up to us.  Whether or not we live in a free country or are enslaved, is up to us.  We cannot be complacent any more.  We cannot bury our heads in the sand and just get up go to work and pretend all is right with the world.  All is not right with the world.  I am not saying we are headed to civil war, God forbid, I am saying there are dangerous signs in our government.  Obama will run for the third time and he will win just like he won this last time, by cheating.  He knows how to do it.  There is an amendment against running more than two times, but he can just make an executive order and do away with that.  Are you really happy with the way things are now?  We spend more than we take in.  Even if everyone in the US gave half of all they made to the government, it would still not be enough.  Spending is the issue, not taxes.  We just have to get the word out.  Read “The Marketing of Evil”  and “No Higher Power”  Watch the movie about Obama.  You can rent it from Amazon for $4.99 for 24 hours and watch it on your computer.  Read everything you can get your hands on.  Get educated as to what is going on in our government.  If everyone knows the truth it is hard for him to have news conferences and lie through his teeth.  Evil cannot exist in the light.  Shed  a lot of light on what Obama is doing.

      • VeeDub says:

        Ladybug, let me translate the “seekers” post.
        “I don’t have an intelligent response, I can’t prove you people wrong, so I’m going to leave so I don’t see all of the posts that prove me wrong.  If I don’t see it, then I can continue to ignore them, stick to my hyperbole,  and pretend like your facts don’t exist.”
        Typical of his ilk.

      • DeaconG says:

        Obama can not issue an order giving himself another term. He is not our Dictator and we are not a Communist State….as he would like to see.  Serrano has tried to pass his BS Bill twice before and it never makes it out of committe. Term Limits on the Presidency are not going to change.

        • askladybug says:

          @DeaconG I wish you were right, but unfortunately you are wrong.  I just read an article today.  The Democrats on the hill are looking into doing away with the 22nd amendment.  Congress made the 22nd amendment law and they can undo it.  If the Republicans on the hill are not on the ball, which they haven’t been so far, the 22nd amendment will cease to exist.

      • parevolutionary says:

        there is already proposed legislation to remove the term limits,proposed day one of the new session by one of the too many NY libs

  157. askladybug says:

    Someone asked if executive orders are legal.  Yes they are, but they are only to be used when a bill has been passed and have gone into effect yet, but there needs to be immediate action taken to stop an injustice.  Or say there is an emergency, like Hurricane Sandy and you need to get some help fast.  You write an executive order.  It was never meant to be used instead of the natural process to pass a bill.  It is called Executive Abuse.  I think they need to put a sealing on how many can be used.  Obama is using them so he can be a little dictator.  He doesn’t want to wait for the process to work or afraid it won’t go his way.  He already has passed such stupid laws.  One executive order he wrote was about how high a fence could be around a tomato field.  What a waste of time.  Who cares?  However, if you are a farmer with tomato fields and the fence around your field is four feet tall and the new regulation says it needs to be five feet, think of expense to fix the fence around say 240 acres.  It could ruin a farmer, and I think that is what Obama is trying to do.  Ruin everyone in the US.  If we don’t find a way to stop him soon we might as well all pack up and leave, because there won’t be any work for anyone or any food to eat if we could find a job.  Write or text your Congressman and tell him enough is enough.

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @askladybug they don’t CARE what we think or say (most of them). The think they are above the law and that they are the law.
      Socialism and its laws are for the people, and dont apply to the socialist lawmakers.
      They want to disarm us, so they can control us, while forcing us to pay for their armed guards.
      They force us into socialized medicine, while exempting themselves and maintaining their gold-plated healthcare packages.
      They force us into the Ponzi scheme called “social security”, while exempting themselves and maintaining their outrageous taxpayer-funded, luxury retirement packages.
      At every turn, they rob us of our earnings and freedoms and enrich themselves and expand their power over every aspect of our lives.
      That is tyrrany far beyond what prompted the Founders to throw off the bonds of their oppression by the king of England.
      They say “patience is a virtue,” and that may be true to a point, but I say patience, carried to the extreme of sacrificing one’s freedom and well-being is foolish.

  158. rpg963 says:

    I’m not sure what “TruthSeeker” is smoking, but whatever it is has fried the brain.  It is that kind of thinking that makes people subserviant to the governement.  But then again, I guess that is where truthseeker thinks everyone should be.

  159. sandman4X4 says:

    They might have an easy time doing that in states like Mass. and Califonication, but in the what they call “flyover” states, and expecialy Texas, Wyoming, N.Dakota and S.Dakota, Idaho, and a few more western states, they will have their hands full, and will no dought start there very own civil war! they can’t be serious!

  160. the Truth Seeker says:

    More on Executive Privilege: All Executives have used it, in one way or another, the country has survived, it will survive, long after most of you troglodytes, Luddites and fear-mongers are dead. Just recall FDR’s famous line on fear. That’s what you worry warts do! You promote fear, division, unhappiness and flat-earth thinking-
    WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney scuttled the Massachusetts government’s long-standing affirmative action policies with a few strokes of his pen on a sleepy holiday six months after he became governor.
    No news conference or news release trumpeted Romney’s executive order on Bunker Hill Day, June 17, 2003, in the deserted Statehouse. But when civil rights leaders, black lawmakers and other minority groups learned of Romney’s move two months later, it sparked a public furor.
    Romney drew criticism for cutting the enforcement teeth out of the law and rolling back more than two decades of affirmative action advances.
    Civil rights leaders said his order stripped minorities, women, disabled people and veterans of equal access protections for state government jobs and replaced them with broad guidelines. They complained Romney hadn’t consulted them before making the changes, snubbing the very kind of inclusion he professed to support.
    “It was done under the radar and there was a big backlash,” said Michael Curry, president of the Boston branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. “It was clear Romney really did not have an appreciation for the affirmative action policies long in place.”
    Romney responded by creating an advisory panel to recommend changes. But he eventually retreated completely, leaving the state’s old policies in place.
    His handling of affirmative action may offer insights into how he would deal with civil rights issues if he were to defeat Barack Obama, the nation’s first black president, in the fall election. The Republican challenger hasn’t talked much about affirmative action during the campaign.
    Romney’s campaign did not respond to requests for comment.
    “This is the canary in the coal mine on how he feels about civil rights issues,” said Julie Patino, who was deputy director of the state’s affirmative action office from 1995 to 1999. “It was a cloaked and unilateral move that eradicated years and years of civil rights advances and history. It was an astonishing act.”
    Patino said the state’s long, tortured history of race relations, including the violence over school busing that tore apart Boston in the 1970s, made Massachusetts’ affirmative action laws especially critical.
    The state government for decades has been a patronage haven for well-connected family members and friends of state lawmakers. The informal system of doling out state job spoils was known as “Irish affirmative action” in a nod to the powerful sway Irish-American politicians in particular have enjoyed on Beacon Hill.
    Romney has said he supports workplace diversity but opposes quotas in hiring, government contracting, school admissions and the like.
    “I believe our nation is at its best when people are evaluated as individuals,” he said in a 2008 Washington Post issues survey. “I do support encouraging inclusiveness and diversity, and I encourage the disclosure of the numbers of women and minorities in top positions of companies and government – not to impose a quota but to shine light on the situation.”
    Responding to the uproar in 2003, Romney insisted he wasn’t trying to undercut the state’s affirmative action policies. He stressed his commitment to workforce diversity, saying he had simply wanted to broaden, streamline and update the old policies.
    “I’m actually very proud of the progress that we’re making in the area of affirmative action,” he said in August 2003. “We’re making a very aggressive effort to change our culture to be more inclusive.”
    Romney’s executive order eliminated the state’s Office of Affirmative Action, which required executive agencies to have civil rights officers in charge of monitoring the hiring of minorities, women and people with disabilities. A state diversity office was created, along with broad goals and guidelines.
    Black leaders and civil rights groups said Romney’s order lacked enforcement mechanisms and removed penalties for agencies not complying with the state’s diversity efforts.
    The Boston Globe scolded him in an editorial, saying that he “sent exactly the wrong message in signing an executive order to revamp the state’s affirmative action program, consigning to the trash heap 33 years of guarantees that minorities and women would have equal access to state jobs.”
    To quell such criticism, Romney appointed a special advisory panel that included minority and civil rights leaders to recommend changes.
    “The changes the panel wanted became too hot for the administration to deal with,” said Leonard Alkins, who was head of the NAACP’s Boston branch during the controversy and was a member of Romney’s advisory panel. Alkins said many of the panel’s recommendations were aimed at bolstering the policies Romney had abolished.
    Romney essentially walked away from the fight, ignoring his own advisory panel. Instead, he had state officials effectively follow the old affirmative action policies he had formally revoked with his executive order.
    It wasn’t until Deval Patrick, a Democrat who was the state’s first black governor, took office in 2007 that the old policies formally were reinstated.
    Alkins said Romney never seemed to grasp that the aim of the state’s affirmative action policies was to protect people who were wrongfully denied equal rights in the workplace.
    “I felt that the governor was out of touch,” said Alkins. “He was very uncomfortable with the issue of race and how you would address issues such as affirmative action.”
    The policies Romney erased were started three decades earlier by Republican Gov. Frank Sargent and substantially expanded by Democratic Gov. Michael Dukakis in 1983. Three Republican governors who directly preceded Romney had left the policies in place.

    • JimRed says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      Romney was right about affirmative action.  Everyone should (as do the NFL and NBA) hire those best able to do the job, period.  I don’t recall any cries for affirmative action in those businesses!
      Yeah, look at all the “good” affirmative action has done for the black communiity in particular.  When dealing with a black who has “made it” as a result of his own strength of character and commitment to work the nagging suspicion still remains that AA had a role in his success.  But then, Dr. King’s “content of character” is for squares nowadays, anyhow.
      There are plenty of anti-discrimination laws in place, and they should be enforced.  But no one should be forced to hire on the basis of quotas.

    • JohnGaltTexas says:

      @the Truth Seeker Affirmative action is nothing but a billy club to leftists, and a slap in the face to so called equality.  The playing field has long since been leveled, if you didn’t take advantage of it, so be it – this leftists pandering PC correctness nonsense has to stop. Content of character, intellect, motivation, and capability were supposed to be the bench marks regardless of color, creed, sexual perversion, gender et al.  Why work for anything when you know its just going to be given to you whether you EARNED it or not.

    • PaulChristensen says:

      @the Truth Seeker You know that being politician you cannot please everyone.  Does Obama try to please everyone? He just tries to please the left wing nuts, the communists, the ones who want to overthrow the country.  I guess that tell you where you lie.  You say Mitt played sneaky politics.  Well I have never seen anyone play more sneaky politics than Obama.  He does not do anything though the front door.  That is why he uses the executive order so much.  The front door will not work and he knows it so he does not even try.  This is not Obama the dictators world.

    • lightvdark says:

      @the Truth Seeker______YOU SILLY LITTLE MAN»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»TRUTH IS NOT, RELATIVE!»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Psalm 34:21 EVIL SHALL SLAY THE WICKED! ————————— Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible——————– Evil shall slay the wicked – The very thing in which they delight shall become their bane and their ruin.———————– They that hate the righteous – All persecutors of God’s people shall be followed by the chilling blast of God’s displeasure in this world; and if they repent not, shall perish everlastingly. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/dishmael_bucket/Goofy.gif

    • askladybug says:

      @the Truth Seeker I agree with Romney on this one.  He was right to do it.  It does not make the playing field equal it tips it too far in the other direction and becomes reverse discrimination.  If a black man and a white man have the same grades and there is only one spot left the black man will get it.  My husband worked with a really nice black man in the IBEW union and he loved the affirmative action.  It meant he didn’t have to go to the end of the line like everyone else, he just got back in at the front.  Because affirmative action says you have to have one black man working for you and there just aren’t that many in the electrical trade.  So the black men were the last to get laid off.  I could go on and on giving you example after example.  Did you know there are mobs out there made up of illegals and black who are terrorizing white people.  Yet they will not report it in the news because they are afraid of being called racist and having the NAACP come after them.  Who is there to come in defense of the white people killed or left for dead?  It just is not balanced any more.  I think we need to make it fair.  If you qualify you get the job no matter what color your skin is.  That is fair.  If you feel you didn’t get a job for any personal reason, other than qualifications you should be able to report them.   I don’t think most employers care one way or the other but recent being told whom they can hire.  Did you know that if you bid a job and the bids are close it is the law under the affirmative act that you have to take the minority bid?  Did you know it is easier to get a small business loan if you are a minority.  Where in anyone’s book is that fair and equal.  One black person told me it was because his people were enslaved and he was owed it.  I didn’t enslave him, why should I have to pay and how cares anyway.  There are a lot of people out there who have had hard lives and they make it anyway.  No handouts, no cuts in line, no special treatment.

    • DonNeal says:

      @the Truth Seeker
      Constitutional attorney Stewart Rhodes will explain it for you.
      …”The whole point of the Second Amendment is to preserve the military capacity of the American people – to preserve the ability of the people, who are the militia, to provide for their own security as individuals, as neighborhoods, towns, counties, and states, during any emergency, man-made or natural; to preserve the military capacity of the American people to resist tyranny and violations of their rights by oath breakers within government; and to preserve the military capacity of the people to defend the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, including those oath breaking domestic enemies within government. It is not about hunting, and at its core, the Second Amendment is not really even about self-defense against private criminals. It is about self-defense against public criminals – against tyrants, usurpers, and foreign invaders.
      . Thus, any attempt to ban their possession, sale, purchase, or transfer, is an attempt by Tyrants to disarm the American people.”   MOLON  LABE

    • DonNeal says:

      @the Truth Seeker
       What does this have to do with Executive Orders and The Second Amendment.

    • DRLJR says:

      @the Truth Seeker You need to use the correct terms – quota programs.  No Affirmative Action program has existed in over 40 years.  An Affirmative Action program is a program that reaches out to people in groups that have been excluded in the past and allow them to compete based upon their qualifications to perform for the job in questions.  The “Civil Rights” did not want to complete honestly so the pushed and got quota programs created.  That is why some tests have different standards for Blacks (and now other minorities) and Whites.  In Boston in the 1970s two brothers were charged with fraud when the applied for Firefighter promotions.  One year they applied as White and did not get the promotions and the next year as Black and did.  They were found not guilty because they had one White Parent and one Black Parent.  So refer to the programs correctly to insure people understand the real nature of the programs.  This re-definition of words and phrases is part of the Progressive/Socialist agenda to deceive people.

  161. JimRed says:

    “Now, I’m not saying that the United States is anywhere near the likes of those dictatorships; but everything begins somewhere.”
    Take a closer look.  All the early signs are there, if you choose to recognize them.

  162. gwt305 says:

    Executive Orders are nothing more than FIATS issued by a wannabe Dictator. It is against our Constitution and against the balence of government that threee branches of government has well served our people for over 200 years. FDR started this “unlawful” practice during WW2 as a matter of National Security but the practice of Royal Decrees should never have been allowed and certainly stopped after the war. The Congress is The Peoples court and represents the will of We The People. Any President or buracrat that dispies the Congress, despises We The People and should be Impeached and run out of Washington on a rail.

    • marny says:

       Actually, the first Executive Order was issued by George Washington and every president since has issued a goodly number of them, right up to FDR who issued by far, the largest number of them.  Wars have been entered into and fought through EO’s, and, unfortunately, EO’s have the full force of “law”  – just as if they had been passed by Congress, after the prescribed waiting period.  Eo’s do not expire, as some folks believe, when a new administration takes over – they must be rescinded or over-turned by a new administration and all of that takes time and effort – in the meantime, the “law” continues to be in force. The Courts, through the years, have ruled that EO’s ARE constitutional based upon their “broad” enterpretation of Article II, Sec. 1, which states in part, “The executive power shall be vested in a president…”; and Article II, Sec. 3, which states in part, “he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed…”.  In my simple mind, there is NO support for EO’s in either of these phrases from Article II of the Constitution but the Courts have ruled that there is and Congress has a long history of just letting these things slide.  Only 3 times, in the history of the nation, have the Courts overturned EO’s.  So, folks – it doesn’t look good for us – depending upon what THE ONE decides to do!

      • DRLJR says:

        @gwt305 An executive order must coincide with the US Constitution and the law to be valid.  Executive Orders are like regulations created by the lawfully created agencies that are used to implement the law.  If Mr Obama, who  is not actually President – he is not a natural born citizen – were to issue an Executive Order to order guns turned in, the order would be null and void.  There is no law that he is implementing and such a Executive Order is in direct conflict with Amendment 2 of the US Constitution.  Anyone trying to enforce it would be guilty of high crimes and possibly treason.

        • VeeDub says:

          “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”
          THE very FIRST thing our Founding Fathers did was tell us who could make laws to control the people.  Why?  King George!  They didn’t want what he was doing to continue in their newly formed Nation.
          THAT sentence is direct and to the point, no interpretation by legal weasels in DC is needed.
          Since they specified that “ALL” legislative (law making) authority is given to the CONgress, that leaves NONE for the President and the SC.
          All federal laws must be brought to the floor in a Bill, voted on, passed, ratified and then signed before they become legal.
          Section 1 is a vesting clause, granting all the federal government’s legislative authority to Congress. Similar vesting clauses are found in
          Articles II and III, which grant “the executive power” to the President and “the judicial power” to the federal judiciary. In legal garb, the working definition of “herein” connotes specificity and exclusivity.
          The Vesting Clauses thus establishes the principle of separation of powers by specifically giving to each branch of the federal government only those powers it can exercise and no others.
          This means that no branch may exercise powers that properly belong to another (e.g., since the legislative power is only vested in Congress, the executive and judiciary may not enact laws).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress

      • VeeDub says:

        EOs may be treated as if they are law, but the President has no authority, even through EO, to MAKE a law. ONLY CONgress (article 1, section 1,) is authorized to make laws.  That is the very first thing the Founding Fathers wanted to be established.
        I’m not sure an EO was ever actually used to start a war, but only CONgress is Constitutionally authorized (article 1, section 8,) to declare war. The President can put us in one, but CONgress has to make it official.
        While Article II does give the President “broad” executive powers, one must note it comes after the Constitution tells us who has the power to make a law or declare war.  EOs are supposed to allow the President to “do” things, not make laws.
        Essentially the first thing they say is CONgress has ALL legislative authority. If CONgress has ALL, then that leaves zero for the President and the Supreme Court. That goes back to the basic divisions of power they established in government.
        What has happened is that CONgress has slowly ceded it’s power to the President. If the President can do something they want done in his last term through EO, then they can accomplish their goal, and not risk losing votes when they come up for re-election. The President looks like the bad guy if it goes wrong and they can keep their jobs, claiming they had nothing to do with it.  If it works out great, then they all want credit.
        EOs, have become a political tool, that is not clarified very well in the Constitution, which (today) allows the Constitution to be broken (by both parties) and nobody held accountable.  Our Founding Fathers could not have foresaw all of the corruption we allow in our government today.
        The greatest challenge will come the first time the government is prosecuting someone and the defense attorney asks them to please tell the court what date that law was ratified on and what Bill it was written and voted on.

      • braveheart 1 says:

         marny, The first EO obama signed was #13489 to seal all his records and past from the American people. Each Executive Order he signs starts with these words,(By the authority vested in me as president (by the Constitution). My question is this. How could he have any authority given him by the Constitution when he is blatantly in violation of the “natural born” clause of our Constitution. He has NEVER proved he is LEGALLY OR CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE to serve as president. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • marny says:

          @braveheart 1  @gwt305
           I share your angst, braveheart.  The truth however is: EO#13489 actually REVOKED a previous EO (#13233) issued by G.W. Bush in November, 2001, which itself REVOKED an EO signed by President Reagan on 1/18/1989.  Prior to 9/11 the usual order of business of NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) was that under the “Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records” Act, the National Archivist could indeed disclose records unless it could be determined that release of such records could impair National security, and that came under the heading of “the question of executive privilege” as provided by NARA.  The very first EO issued by a newly sworn-in president is always to confirm and continue that long-held provision of being able to disclose presidential records that do not adversely affect National security.  Thusly, G.W. Bush, after the events of 9/11/2001 issued his EO#13233 which put a stop to this long-held provision and prevented the Archivist from releasing presidential records FOR ANY REASON because of the perceived threat to National security after the attack of 9/11/2001.  Obama’s first EO was to revoke that order and return the release of records to the way it had always been before 9/11.
          The only thing I can tell you is that Obama DOES have the authority to issue EO’s in his capacity as Chief Executive, regardless of whether or not you or I agree with his eligibility, due to the FACT that all requirements were met (according to the folks who make those decisions) and signed off on by the proper authorities, and a proper interpretation of law and compliance was issued to Congress by the Congressional Research Service which sealed the deal.  Regardless of what we may believe about his eligibility, it is a DONE DEAL and has been since his first inauguration.  Continuing to “beat-this-dead-horse” as I see it, is futile.  Sorry I couldn’t give you better news.

    • askladybug says:

      @gwt305 There is one thing you forgot, although I am impressed with how much you know.  The President cannot make into law a bill that has already been voted down in the House.  That is an impeachable act.  That is exactly what Barry is doing.  He knows it is wrong, but he also knows that to be impeached has to come from the Senate and the Senate is filled with Democrats.  The only way we have of stopping Barry is to get the Democratic Senators out and put Republicans, who are brave and determined in.  Also let your Senators know how you feel.  Call them up and tell the poor secretary how upset you are with Obama and what you want your representative to do about it.  We don’t want civil war.  We don’t want to have to physically fight to get our freedom back, we want to make sure we don’t lose it in the first place.

      • marny says:

        @askladybug  @gwt305
         Askladybug, you are correct.  Thanks for the compliment – I am an avid researcher and history buff. Another point:  EO’s are “supposed” to be based upon “existing legislation”.  EO’s are defined generally as “expanding upon” or “clarifying” existing legislation and do not even have to rely upon funding by Congress if the already existing legislation they are supposed to be based upon already receives funding – when this is the case the funding for the new EO is automatic.  Failure to fund an EO is one of the very few ways Congress has of stopping an EO from becoming law.  Unfortunately, there have been many gun control laws passed “legally” by our legislative branch, and even though the latest one was allowed to expire, I am thinking that it will not be difficult for this president and this AG to find some gun control law that they can “expand” upon or clarify through an EO.  EO’s are not supposed to “make new law” or nullify a right guaranteed by the Constitution but, as we all already know, what it comes down to is a matter of interpretation.  WHOSE interpretation…that will be the important question.

  163. above the law says:

    If there is any other E>O>, people should contact their house reps especially Boehner and demand his impeachment on the grounds he is breaking his oath of office.Sad but how can one who doesn’t qualify for an office, take an oath of office?!!

    • Ltpar says:

      @above the law
       Surely you jest.  The Republicans can’t even get their act together on budget cuts and the national debt ceiling.  Who in their right mind could expect them to take on a task as large and volitile as impeachment of the President?  The odds of winning the Power Ball Lottery are greater than expecting help from the Republican Party.

      • above the law says:

         Yeah it’s a stretch, but it is a move that should be tried before the real stuff starts! It would justify the action. Even though I’m in a nazi state ,I can still dream for a legal peaceful solution before the foray starts!   Stay Free!

  164. DougSchexnayder says:

    The arrogant apostles of utopian secular socialism (aka dimdems) have no boundaries and a pawn press changing their dirty diapers 24-7…repeat…NO boundaries.  When will the Repubs understand that?  Stop being shocked. Act and respond as if they will do anything.

  165. The Watchman says:

    I am not surprised at Obama’s intended Executive Orders, and neither should anyone else be surprised.  Those useful idiots, maybe someone in our own family voted this man in as dictator of the United Socialist States of America.  When they voted for Obama, they knew full well what was coming down the pike with his re-election.  It is not like Liberal/Progressives weren’t warned of the this impending demise of our Constitutional Republic, and the first four years of the Obama administration should have been a big slap you up-side the face clue.  Yet, 57% of America voted for Socialism.  It is time to fight my fellow patriots, I sincerely hope you are all up to the task at hand!!!

  166. sagebrush6 says:

    It appears that the current government in power has a terrible fear because of something they want to do and the public if armed, won’t allow it it happen.

    • jmark says:

      @sagebrush6 They are not afraid.  This is their planned strategy.  They are already two steps ahead.  It will only get uglier.

    • CarlStevenson says:

      @sagebrush6 “Never forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t let him do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.” – Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith, Hope (2001)

  167. Samuri says:

    The above concern for the importance of saving just one life even by the confiscation of the public’s arms is irrational at best. What importance of the death of one US citizen due to their refusal to give up their arms relative to the above article? What about their death at the hands of governmental guns?
    Peoples’ inherant evil is the cause of murder. We know that guns are not the cause. It makes me so angry that truth is not used by anti-gun advocates.

  168. jmark says:

    A few thoughts: 
    First of all, ignore ‘the truth seeker.’  He’s a plant whose intent is to distract and divide.  His entire MO is to get you to react to him.  Just defuse him by ignoring him.
    Second: I am re-posting a concept that I originally posted in response to another commentator.  It outlines in broad strokes strategic response to the gun confiscators:  “When the confiscators come, they will use shock and awe.  Expect swat like raids on key pro gun rights personnel.  Many against one.  It will be a campaign of divide, isolate and overpower.  In view of this, maybe a strategy should be developed for counter resistance.  A local ghost network for instance whereby other activists in the region can swarm in on a moments notice from many directions to surround the invading gestapo.  If we don’t stand together, we will fall separately.”  The network is comprised of fellow gun owners in the area who know and trust each other.  it has to be large enough to overpower a goon squad at a 3 to 1 ratio.  A swat team of 6 would require a corresponding ration of at least 18.  The network is linked as a specific social media group, by email, gps and other comm technology.  Each member knows the terrain, roads, and address of the other members.  A strike plan is already made for the contingency that any one or more of the members might be swatted in the middle of the night.  When one member is under assault, he quickly alerts the group, if possible estimating the size and strength of the attackers. the group scrambles to surround the attackers, and if the group is big enough, also seals off the two road intersections to prevent any gestapo reinforcements.  You are minutemen.

    • parevolutionary says:

      @jmark thats a great plan,only one hole in it,you mentioned social media and email!!! what has obummer done to internet security??? when it happens they WILL be listening just like they are right now! they see everything that is posted…..they will know what is planned and be ready for anything like you are talking…..they will have moles in every group,count on it..they also control the radio waves,we need to have a way to communicate that they can’t track/eavesdrop on….peace to you and good luck,we are all gonna need it!!!

  169. BarackHussein says:

    Obama and Holder don’t want the states to enforce the federal laws against criminal (illegal) immigrants… well, let the States will be the judge of our laws. Likewise, how they gonna enforce the gun-grab? Seems like it would be the same State folks. We should listen to Sherrif Joe.. to heck with the feds.

  170. lightvdark says:

    Truthsneaker is an EVIL LITTLE, SOCIOPATHIC NIHILIST, BRAGGING ABOUT HIS IQ, JAG, VACATION_DESTINATION, ETC. Probably designs guillotines, with government grants—————————— http://www.narcissisticabuse.com/evil/ ———————————»»»we do eventually consider the viewpoint of the other.»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
    Not so those who are evil. Theirs is a brand of narcissism so total that they seem to lack this capacity for  empathy…. We can see then, that their narcissism makes the evil dangerous not only because it motivates them to scapegoat others, but  also because it deprives them of the restraint that results from empathy and  respect for others….The evil need victims to sacrifice to their narcissism, their narcissism permits them to ignore the humanity of their victims as well. ..The blindness of the narcissist  to others can extend beyond a lack of empathy; narcissists  may not “see” others at all.

  171. wisewoman says:

    jmark.  I don’t want to sound pessimistic, but the purpose of “shock and awe” is to take people by surprise.  There would be no time to gather anyone, much less six to eighteen people, to come to the gun owners defense.  That is the very reason why the mass shootings have been so successful.  No one is prepared for it, and the shooter has had the time to kill before help can arrive.
    Perhaps if/when people are killed in this type of raid on their property the people who voted for this regime will wake up and realize that they could be next.  The very thought of “swat teams” coming in surprise to take away an individuals guns which, according to our constitution, they have a right to do just might wake up a big enough majority of what I call the sleepers that it would make a difference.

    • gary jones says:

      @wisewoman The best way is to have purchased weapons at gun shows or swap meets before the law changes. The weapons they’re after are look-a-like military weapons when the reality checks prove the lies.WE have a tyrannical government within trying to gain power  because fully automatic weapons start at $15,000 and UP.. The normal citizen can’t afford these type of weapons.Obama and his administration trying to gain full control over the people because you don’t go after law abiding citizens. But a 308 or 30.06 rifle with a clip of 10 is as good of or  better assault rifle. Then there is ways to make short arm weapons like sawed off shotguns loaded with double 0 buck. Don’t let everyone know what you own. Commonsense will be the winner in any war when all you have to do is defeat a stupid commander in chief and his wimpy beanies in his administration.

    • askladybug says:

      @wisewoman I raised my kids in Idaho and in I think the 80s there was a man and his family living in the woods in Idaho.  He just wanted to live his life and be left alone.  Next thing he knew he was surrounded by ATF or FBI, or National Guard or maybe all three.  It started over an illegal rifle as i recall.  There were children and adults in the very small shack of a house.  They had an outhouse and they were survivalists.  This man was supposed to go to court and he didn’t show up.  So instead of just taking a warrant for arrest up to his house the laid siege to his house.  This guy didn’t want to get shot and he didn’t want his family to get shot.  I think his little son got shot and his pregnant wife got shot.  It is my opinion that if they wanted to take someone’s guns they would come with a small army and go house to house.  They would be dressed like swat teams.  In the swamps of Louisiana or the backwoods of Tenn.  they may have a chance but not much of one.  It would take the government awhile but they would eventually get it done.  Tell me if you heard about the government doing that for one gun would you be willing to hold out with your gun?  See, none of us know how or want to fight.  We are the good guys.  We are the law abiding citizens.  They are counting on that.  The civil unrest in this country is going to grow.  The gangs are going to get bigger and are going to get more weapons.  They are minority gangs that hate all whites.  Even the police don’t want to go against them.  Obama shut down the NICI in 2011, in case you missed that article.  They were being very successful in putting gang members in jail and breaking up the gang members. The government agency put over 5,000 gang members in jail.  So why did Obama disband it?  He wants gangs, he wants drug cartels.  He is arming them, just like he is arming the Muslim in Turkey.  He wants war.  Now Iran has the Nuclear bomb.   It all goes back to the fact that they want to destroy America.  Oh, by the way there is a new film out about how fractilizing to get natural gas out of the shale distroyed the land.  I would say that is accurate, but they were using an unsafe liquid to do it with.  Now they have an all organic vegetable based liquid to do the fractionalization with.  The movie is emotional and meant to turn everyone against the process, without giving all the facts.  It was not safe then but it is now.  We could be a super power if we can get all the shale trapped oil in Montana and I believe Dakota.  It would make all our financial problems disappear.  Remember oil is a natural resource and something that is heavily taxed.  But Obama will never allow it.  Spread the word when the movie comes out that it is safe now.  It is propaganda and so is the movie about Osama ben Laden.  Obama did not kill him or have anything to do with it.  Hillary did it behind his back because when he knew about the three times before he stopped it.  When the helicopter had landed they told Obama.  Then he takes all the bows.  Don’t put anything past this President.

  172. lightvdark says:

    I believe that, imparting some information using as few words as possible, IS THE DEFINITION OF SANITY. Just before Jesus was CRUCIFIED, He told the disciples to ARM THEMSELVES—-Luke 22;—– Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered.»»»»»36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; AND IF YOU DON’T HAVE A SWORD, SELL YOUR CLOAK AND BUY ONE[^].”

    • askladybug says:

      @lightvdark Stop quoting the Bible like you are the only one who has ever read it.  God gave us this country.  It is the promised land.  He promised it would never be invaded from without.  He also said as long as we were righteous.  Here is something else he said.  He would not do for us what he has asked us to do for ourselves.  We have to fight for our freedom, it is not given.  Our founding fathers had to fight for the freedom we enjoy.  God did not hand it to them.  God makes opportunities available and it is up to us what we do with the opportunities.  My Heavenly Father loves me and he loves you.  He is not a vengeful God.  God is logical  and you are not.  I believe we are in this mess because most of America has turned their backs on God.  The believe in God in the abstract, but they don’t want to read the scriptures or pray or go to church.  They believe mistakenly that belief in Jesus is enough.  They break his commandments and think that since God is a loving God he will understand and forgive even though they have no intentions of asking for forgiveness.  They believe in self first and others last.  Faith without works is dead.  They say they have faith but are unwilling to do any works and seem to be indifferent as to whether what they are doing is a sin.  I know a prophet of God who says he asks for forgiveness every day.  He is the most righteous man I know on this earth today and yet he asks for forgiveness.  That is when I knew I had to start asking my Heavenly Father, every day for forgiveness.  If we as a nation turned away from sin and back to Heavenly Father and his son Jesus Christ I do not believe we would be in the state of woes that we are.  When our nation tells the world that the only international agenda we have is Abortion and Same sex marriage, something is very wrong.  Remember God is love he is not about anger and hate, which is what you seem to be so filled with.  I think you must be a teenager with nothing else to do.  Teenagers love telling adults what to do and proving they are smarter than adults.  If you don’t have something constructive to say don’t say anything at all, ok honey.  This is grandma talking.

  173. donl says:

    When I was in Key West on vacation I was shocked by the amount of gays, but worse ,was a big man that tried to open my car door, Until I showed him my .357 magnum. He disappeared back to where he came from.  Gun Control is nothing more than a government trying to control us.  Remember, Rahm Emanual told obama Never Let A Good Crisis Go to Waste!!   Obama Agreed.

  174. lightvdark says:


  175. gary jones says:

    There’s No Executive order, unconstitutional or legal law that can override inherent law of the 2nd Amendment Right to bear arms to protect the Constitutional against foreign and domestic enemies. The only amendment that which is fundamentally superior in protecting the rest of our rights and the country. Obama and Holder broke their oath and aided abide d drug cartels, murderers, and gang bangers with military weapons.They committed treason by arming a hostile enemy, unlawful group or regime; Obama and Holder should be tried for treason and hung. I will not forget my oath to the Constitution or my country neither will I  lay down my weapons to criminals, a tyrant or tyrannical governments foreign or domestic. Obama and his administration are dangerous to this country and it’s financial stability to survive. Obama and his Co-conspirators, Congress and the Senate ordered to do their job to bring charges,, arrest, housed at Gutanimo, tried by military tribunal and when found guilty hang them on Capitol Hill.

    • glonjojo says:

      @gary jones 

    • Ltpar says:

      @gary jones
       As the sissors cut the paper and the rock crushes the sissors, so does Martial Law by Executive Order crush the Constitution and all it stands for.  A vast majority of people haven’t a clue as to the power of the President and the restrictions he can bring down on us if he so chooses. Don’t expect any help from the Congress because they are part of the problem.  When and if push comes to shove, it will rest in the hands of individuals from small towns and large cities across the country just like you and me.  It is time to get yourself mentally prepared, do your homework, put together a survival plan and join with others of like mind.  Anything less, could result in defeat for the Republic.

    • askladybug says:

      @gary jones I see you are very passionate about what you believe and that is good, but let’s not go too far.  I agree with you, but you do realize it isn’t going to happen.  Impeachment has to come from the Senate if I am not mistaken and since that has a majority of Democrats the odds are not good to say the least.  You know there is a lot of evidence to prove that he is not eligible to be the President.  They tried many supreme courts and were  either ignored or dismiss it as the lawsuit were a fly buzzing around their honey cakes.  it’s like the world has gone mad.  But remember in Isaiah it says that in the last days the right will be wrong and the wrong will be right.  That is exactly what is happening.  We see it every day.  If a woman wants her baby to die she can go to a clinic and she can literally have her baby’s brains sucked out and that is ok, she is not a criminal and is protected under the law.  If a menenite has a baby too soon and because they believe in the will of God they are prosecuted and spend two years in jail for criminal neglect.  Where is the justice in that and yet this is the world we live in right now, mores the pity and shame.

  176. ireAmerica says:

      First off, we do NOT have a Democracy, we have a Constitutional Republic.  Second, the Senate represents the various States, while the house of Congress represents The People.  The Executive is bound (as We all are) by the Constitution, and must adhere to the procedures therein regarding legislation.  Third, all Representatives and the Supreme Court are public SERVANTS and SHALL NOT attempt to construct or enact any law, rule, decree or activity outside the constraints of the Constitution OR to limit the LIBERTY of We the People.

    • Ltpar says:

       Frank, nice rheortic, but have you looked around at what has happened during the past 50 years?  Almost all those things you described have changed and now the tail is wagging the dog.  If Obama has his way, what remains of the Republic will be crashed and from the rubble he will construct the new Socialit Utopia in partnership with the One World Government fanatics.  Soon the time for rhetoric will be over and we will have to resort to the human psychological conditon of “fight or flight.”

      • DRLJR says:

        @Ltpar  @ireAmerica The problems we are facing started at least 110 years ago and the racist Woodrow Wilson and others have been implementing the socialist agenda for years.  People need to remind others that Mr Obama is not President – fails first qualification requirement – and therefore nothing he does or appointment he makes is valid.

        • Ltpar says:

          @DRLJR  @ireAmerica
           Possession is nine points of the law and Obama clearly has possession of the position and the power that goes with it.  It will not be easy to take away that power.

    • icetrout says:

      @ireAmerica God I love that kind of talk ! Where are the AMERICAN Lawyers @??? Every Lawyer in this country can’t be a commie or chickensh*t…how come none of them are speaking up???

      • above the law says:

        @icetrout  @ireAmerica
         get behind this orlytaitzesq.com ….we may just save bullits…pass it on !!

      • askladybug says:

        @icetrout  @ireAmerica Have you not heard money makes the world go around.  They aren’t going to do it for free.  They all want millions to try such a case.

  177. lightvdark says:

    You have to understand, people, this **SATANIC-SOCIOPATH, doesn’t even think of us as human. The TYPICAL 0MAMA VOTER IS EXACTLY LIKE THIS—OR, THE LITTLE-WOMAN-CHILD-OF-COLOUR, FROM OHIO, THAT WORSHIPS THE BOY-KING, BECAUSE HE GAVE HER A FREE PHONE—————————————————————————–
    **the Truth Seeker 9 pts««««««
    Lady Bug- your post is so pathetic, so antediluvian, so beyond the pale of reasoning that any sane person would not know whether to laugh or cry. Since I am leaving, and I do not want my mail box cluttered with tripe that people like you fulminate, I am unsubscribing. Normally I would wish good luck to a tortured soul like yourself, but as Rhett said in Gone With the Wind, “frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”»»»»

  178. braveheart 1 says:

    We have a thug who has orchestrated the biggest hoax on the American people by illegally attaining the highest position of OUR government and there’s not one elected congressman, judge,or Senator who has the courage to call for an investigation of this IMPOSTER. This FRAUD has NEVER,EVER proved he is a U.S. citizen, let alone a “natural born” citizen and he continues to get away with it.

    • Ltpar says:

      @braveheart 1
       As PT Barnum once said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”   Apparently Barnum underestimated the ignorance and stupidity of the American citizenry and there is actually “a sucker born ever second.”

  179. gary jones says:

    Be ready for the confiscators to come to your home (coffee and donuts) will do just fine and understanding a little of foreign language. Obama can’t use American’s to disarm you. Police officers live in the community and military people are returning home from fighting tyrannical governments to oust tyrants. This administration and Obama uses politically correct lies for the people; So arm yourself with words, smiles and “good” donuts and coffee then you can disarm the unconscious UN soldiers, Collect all their weapons, military equipment and supplies to distribute to the ghost militia. But the best way to fight Obama and his corrupt administration is to withhold taxes owed and ask the IRS for a payment plan, they can’t provide refunds to people who pay no taxes. And it gives you extra money in your pocket that the government would waste by sending to terrorist countries and regimes. They would close the loopholes because they have to have their “FIX” cash. Our government pays interest as a payment plan but never pays on the principle. The American people still have the power if they unite against the tyrants in our government, No bullets needed

    • Ltpar says:

      @gary jones
       Gary, apparently you have never worked with or experienced the actions of any of the famous blue helmets of the Unorganized Nations.  I can tell you that with the exception of a few from civilized countries, the vast majority couldn’t find their ass with both hands.  Add to that, those poor suckers will be in the American heartland surrounded by armed Americans like Custer was at the Little Big Horn.  Nope, it is not the Unorganized Nations I worry about.  What we are more likely to see are overzealous Federal Agents who have chosen to back the Commander in Chief, rather than the Constitution.  Not all will follow that path, but some will.  If that happens, then each of us will have a decision to make, submit or fight, perhaps to the death.  Individually, we are helpless, however if individuals band together into small neighborhood groups and those groups into larger groups, we can survive and win the battle.  I sincerely pray that your “no bullets” option wins out, because the battle will not be pretty if bullets are used.  Semper Fidelis.

    • VeeDub says:

      @gary jones
      While the basics of your post are on track, I think it unwise to believe your local LEOs and military won’t follow orders to disarm and/or kill Americans.
      95% of the black community voted for obama, knowing everything they do about him. Close to that same percentage of them, in the military and police community, will follow obama’s orders to disarm and kill Americans. Especially when set loose in the white community.
      Secondly when the Federales show up at the local Sheriff’s office or police department and say “we want X number of officers, they’re going with us.” Those officers will go, maybe unwittingly, but when the citizen fires in self defense, those local LEOs adrenaline button will fire up, and they’ll shoot along with the federal invaders.  Probably not so much in smaller or rural communities, but in the city… Well, there’s part of the reason I won’t live there.

    • icetrout says:

      @gary jones  WTF UN…Swordfish em!!!

  180. icetrout says:

    The ghost of the Great Maryland Thespian John Wilkes Booth says ya’ll need to grow some balls!!! Only way to get rid of a Tyrant is with BALLS!!!

    • Seymour Kleerly says:

      @icetrout YaaHOOOOO!

      • Seymour Kleerly says:

        @icetrout I can’t understand how this web site can allow threats to the life of an American President. They must definitely be trying to enrage the Far Right, and to start the shootin! What a way to sell your products (guns and hate).

        • DRLJR says:

          @Seymour Kleerly  @icetrout Except under the US Constitution Mr Obama is not President.  He does not meet the first eligibility requirement of Article 2 Section 1 Paragraph 5.  He was not a citizen when the US Constitution was adopted nor is he a natural born citizen.  He is in fact guilty of High Crimes and Treason.
          And what you fail to understand is that Mr Obama, like all Progressives, is a threat to freedom.  Before you get too upset at the rhetoric posted here consider the real violent rhetoric and where it comes from – the Left.  Take the time to listen to the Progressives and other “Leftists”.  Listen to their words and look at their actions.  Nothing the “Right” says comes anywhere close the violence pushed by the “Left”.  Or the enslavement their policies create.
          Consider the calls for assassination by the “Left” of President Bush 43 when he was President.  Open your eyes and ears to what is really being said and proposed.  You may change your mind about things.  Look at the real history of the Progressive movement – in the US, the USSR, China, Cuba, and Venezuela.

        • VeeDub says:

          @Seymour Kleerly  @icetrout
          The same way this President and every liberal blog allowed death threats to Romney, the same way they call for the murder of the NRA president, Sarah Palin, and EVERYBODY else that disagrees with them.
          Not sayin’ it’s right, but don’t be a hypocrite. The death threat ratio weighs heavily against the socialist/democrats.

        • Seymour Kleerly says:

          @VeeDub  @icetrout Don’t remember hearing death threats for Romney or Palin. I’m sure over 8 years there were a few wishes for the death of W.. The big difference is they were NOT accepted and certainly not allowed to continue on any given site or program. You guys have guns and are being driven to hysteria by the Right’s Hate Machine.

        • Seymour Kleerly says:

          @DRLJR  @icetrout Do you understand the enormous different between Progressive and Communist?  Stop letting Glenn Beck dumb you down. He get’s richer as you get more radicalized and unhappy.

        • VeeDub says:

          @Seymour Kleerly  @icetrout
          That’s because you people only see what you want to see, and are quite adept at using selective memory.
          There’s a handy little tool called a “search engine”.  Google has a good one.  Try using it and learn something instead of just believing what your handlers tell you to think.

        • Seymour Kleerly says:

          @VeeDub  @icetrout Thanks. 1. It’s a right wing site and these death threats to Romney look fake. 2. It’s Palin’s “claim” she had death threats. That being said I’m sure there were SOME left wing whackos doing what your doing but your side  have been fed a compilation of all of them ifrom this huge country. They embarrass me and no reputable Liberal site would allow them to continue. These Right wing sites are actually encouraging it! If I’m wrong I’m sorry but I’m trying to help. You guy’s are killin the Conservative Movement. I don’t want one party rule.

        • VeeDub says:

          @Seymour Kleerly  
          So typical of your ilk.  You were proven wrong, and instead of having the strength of character to admit it, you challenge the source to TRY and discredit it.  There have been death threats not just from the fringe element of the socialist/democrats, but from very public figures.
          Here’s a link to hundreds of REPUTABLE sources that have the FACTS.
          Your position would be that because of where the FACTS are published, they don’t count as FACTS.  Unfortunately you peope haven’t figured out that a FACT is a FACT, no matter where it’s printed.
          I gave you 3 out of hundreds of links from ALL major news networks including all of the ones up obama’s butt!  But you wouldn’t know about that because, since you don’t want to know FACTS, you didn’t take the time to do a search.

        • CarlStevenson says:

          @Seymour Kleerly @DRLJR @icetrout. “Progressive” is just the name the current crop of Marxists and fascists use. They are all about total government contol. It’s the behavior, not the name, that matters.

        • VeeDub says:

          @CarlStevenson  @Seymour  @DRLJR
          Today, they are inseperable.  The marxists, communists, socialists, progressives, democrats, liberals, gays and atheists all (except a very small minority) vote the same.  Democrat!
          Although they scream when you try to associate them with each other, they all push the same agenda and support the only party that works to meet the agenda of all of those groups.
          Another thing they get upset about.  Anyone who voted for obama, voted the same way the crack heads, illegal aliens, dope dealers, and felons did. 
          So what does that tell you about their “thinking”?

        • Seymour Kleerly says:

          @VeeDub On the site about Romney’s death threats I felt that they were so pathetic and made Blacks sound so dumb that it had to be Right Wing Prop.. I also originally thought that many or the posts on this sit were Liberals making Conservatives look ridiculous. As I said , if I’m wrong, I’m sorry, and even if far left was that low, they’re not waving their guns in the air and being led by the nose to buy guns and possibly use them against other Americans.

        • Seymour Kleerly says:

          @VeeDub  @CarlStevenson  @DRLJR Their is nothing different today than before in the differing levels on the Left. They are all still just as distinct but YOU’VE been subjected to A Right wing Hate Machine that America has never witnessed. They want to make you simple and angry. It’s working like a charm.

        • DRLJR says:

          @Seymour Kleerly  @VeeDub  @CarlStevenson What the Left calls Right Wing Hate Groups are actually Left Wing groups.  For instance NAZI are not Right Wing but Left Wing.  They are about Supremacy of the State which is the basis of Marxism, Socialism and Communism.  Or in other words total control over peoples lives.  And if you look at the rhetoric that is being credited  to the Right you will find it is distortions of what is actually been said. Get a copy of “Rules of Radicals” and learn how the “Left” actually operates.

        • DRLJR says:

          @Seymour Kleerly  @icetrout The simple fact is that Progressives, Communist, and NAZIs are just different sides of the same Marxist coin.  They all operate on the premise of “Supremacy of the State” and those in control of the State. The only difference is they approach the goal in different ways.  The only people who have been “dumbed down” are those who buy into the Progressive spin and distortions of facts.  You really should open your eyes and ears taking the time to listen at what the Progressives actually say.
          As for Glen Beck I have not watch his shows in years.  I, like most Conservatives, check our facts and check what people say.

  181. parevolutionary says:

    It’s even worse than we previously thought. A retired four-star admiral is now claiming that Barack Obama intentionally conspired with America’s enemies to stage a bogus attack and the kidnapping of an American ambassador so he could “negotiate” the release of a “hostage” and bolster his mediocre approval ratings just prior to the election!
    The Washington Examiner, quoting retired Four-Star Admiral James Lyons, writes: “the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi… was the result of a bungled abduction attempt…. the first stage of an international prisoner exchange… that would have ensured the release of Omar Abdel Rahman, the ‘Blind Sheik’…”

    • above the law says:

       Seems kind of odd that things are happening here in regard to gun violence and of course you have biden remarking about the “riddled bodies ” where did he get that?! Ya have to wonder about the “Hollywood effect” One things for sure gov. regulations and control have killed many more than these gun related crimes.

    • askladybug says:

      @parevolutionary Wow that is news to me.  Good job honey on being the first to know this story.  I will have to do some digging and see what I can find out.  Again good job.  Information that is what we need.  Did you also hear that when Obama was running for President the first time three people looked at the passport records and one of them was pulled over because he had tinted windows in his car.  He and a woman were smoking marajuana and had a big bag of it.  In the car they found all sorts of fake IDs and passports and credit cards.  He is a known hacker.  As it turns out he was also in Hillary’s and someone else that was running for President.  As it turns out this guy got into theirs just so it would look like he got into all three and messed with them.  When Obama found out that someone had looked at his record he said, “That’s ok, it comes with the job.”  That’s ok!  When he has paid millions to keep anyone from looking at his records?  But this time it is ok?  It is believed that the guy who was arrested was there to change the passport and records so it would reflect the name he goes by now, rather than Barry.  Oh, one more thing.  When they arrested this guy it was said in the paper that he was being very co-operative to the FBI.  He being held without bail and then all of a sudden he was turned lose.  Two days later he was killed in a drive by shooting outside a church. He was shot in the head.  So I think since he changed everything he has nothing to fear now.  He should have taken Trump up on his offer.  It looks like he had it covered.  By then again what does he care if millions go to a charity?

  182. DRLJR says:

    An executive that violates that US Constitution and that is not in accordance with law is null and void.  Anyone trying to enforce or create such is committing treason.

  183. lightvdark says:


  184. lightvdark says:

    I measure my success as a blogger, by how few SNEERING-COMMENTS, I receive. I had forgotten this, almost 2 year old entry. Turns out, it is the most popular entry on Download Politics.——————————————————————————————
    http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?104-LIBS-START-FIRES-SHOOT-AT-THE-FIRE-AND-RESCUE-PEOPLE-AND-BLAME-US ——————————————————
    Obama HATES US, AND THE USA. It’s the way he is WIRED! Ever heard that sappy, stupid song…”WAITIN FOR THE WORLD TO CHANGE?”—– http://www.redstate.com/ken_taylor/2…and-americans/ ——————–
    By dividing us he(Obamessiah) forces his hatred of us to us and it breeds like a cancer. His hatred of our country is his political motivation to destroy the Republic our Founders deemed to the people and rebuild it in his own Marxist ideology and fashion.

  185. PaulChristensen says:

    The gun show and the gun dealer can not keep guns in stock.  That should tell the politicians what the people think.  These people are not buying guns to go around and shoot other people.  That is the furtherest idea from their minds.  They just want to be able to protect themselves.  The politicians should get a clue and rule the way their people want.

  186. VeeDub says:

    Obama does have the authority to issue bans on the production of certain weapons, ammo, etc, and where they may or may not be posessed in Federal buildings and property. BUT HE has no Constitutional authority to pass any law. UNLESS CONgress wants that law passed and they are willing to cede their Constitutional authority to a dictator.
    All federal laws must be brought to the floor in a Bill, voted on, passed, and then signed by President before they become legal. 
    CONgress must ratify a Bill/vote to approve an amendment the Constitution proposed by Congress. After  ratification no further approval (e.g., Presidential signature) is required for  the amendment to take effect.
    “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”
    THE very FIRST thing our Founding Fathers did was tell us who could make laws to control the people.  Why?  King George!  They didn’t want what he was doing to continue in their newly formed Nation.
    THAT sentence is direct and to the point, no interpretation by legal weasels in DC is needed.
    Since they specified that “ALL” legislative (law making) authority is given to the CONgress, that leaves NONE for the President and the SC.
    Section 1 is a vesting clause, granting all the federal government’s legislative authority to Congress. Similar vesting clauses are found in
    Articles II and III, which grant “the executive power” to the President and “the judicial power” to the federal judiciary. In legal garb, the working definition of “herein” connotes specificity and exclusivity.
    The Vesting Clauses thus establishes the principle of separation of powers by specifically giving to each branch of the federal government only those powers it can exercise and no others.
    This means that no branch may exercise powers that properly belong to another (e.g., since the legislative power is only vested in Congress, the executive and judiciary may not enact laws).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress

    • askladybug says:

      @VeeDub You forget he is breaking all the rules and laws and the constitution.  This man has no fear. He does not think there is anyone that can stop him.  Congress voted down a bill that would make any Mexican child that had been here since childhood an automatic citizen.  The bill was voted down.  The President signed an executive order making it the law anyway.  Congress knew it would cause a wave of people bringing their little kids over here to guarentee they would get citizenship.  It is a bad law, but Obama did it with his little pen.  This man does not care what is the law and what isn’t.  People know that if the cross this man they could end up dead.  I am not saying he is killing anyone but there are many many men who have crossed or ticked off this man who aren’t here to tell the tale any more.  He does not want to be President he wants to be an evil King and rule over his subjects.  He wants to tax us till we have nothing left to live and then live in splender.  Now I have to repent tonight of saying bad things about our President.  We are told by the Prophet, that no matter how much we may dislike him we have to pray for him because he is our President.  I am trying but the man makes it so hard.

  187. Kathy says:

    The people who voted for him, especially twice, need to enroll in school and take HISTORY and AMERICAN GOVERNMENT-AGAIN and AGAIN! as well as, read the BIBLE!!!! Joe Biden said, “if their actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking.” We effect the well-being of Americans…If we act responsibly.”  TWO COMMENTS 1. the secret service’s GUNS keep THEM and their family safe. WE AMERICANS  won’t be able to protect our family. 2. Millions of American babies are killed through abortion. Mr. Obama and Biden aren’t concerned about “acting responsibly and saving one life,” when it comes to THAT battle!  History repeats itself if we don’t learn from the past.!!!!!!! Study Hitler and Stalin.  AMERICA NEEDS OUR HELP!!!  If we humble ourselves and pray, God will hear our prayers and save us!

    • askladybug says:

      Good thoughts, but I think this one is on us.  We lost our freedom by not being vigil, me included.  We trusted that our government had checks and balances in place to keep what is happening from happening.  We are honest people by and large and therefore we don’t think anyone is doing bad on purpose.  After all he is a man in a high position in the land, the highest even.  He should be above reproach.  We lost it by not watching and just going to work and coming home and living our lives and pretty much ignoring what was going on up there on Capital Hill.  Now we have this mess.  I did not know what he was doing until this election.  I registered as a Republican again and started getting emails.  At first I didn’t believe what I heard , but I kept hearing it over and over again.  I started reading and reading until I had strained eyes and could no longer sit at the computer.  We have to help America now.  How?  Call your representative and tell him how you feel and what you want him or her to do.  This is the only thing you can do.  The fear of not getting elected will work in our favor, but if very few call or write they will think not many people care one way or the other.  We have to let them know and now!  Let them know you don’t want anyone to take any guns away.  They will take one and then another.  The NRA walked out of the meeting they had because they wouldn’t listen to anything they had to say.  They had already made up their mind what they would do.  I think this has been in the works for a long time.  They were just waiting for a horrible shooting so they could pounce on it and make it worse than what it was and make it work for their cause.  What they told tell anyone is that it was a good person with a gun that stopped them.  I live in Oregon not far from the mall where the guys was shooting people in the food court.  It was a man with a concealed weapon that caused the shooter to turn his gun on himself.  The one that was shooting all those poor children it was the arrival of the police that made him kill himself.  Again it was a good guy with a gun.  The only reason these guys were there to do their shooting is the fact that there was no one there with a gun to stop them.  If we were all armed, I think we could live in a peaceful society again.  We must be like Switzerland.

      • VeeDub says:

        Kathy: Sending people to school isn’t the answer. Remember, you can lead a horse to water….?
        Obama has studied the Constitution, he attended college courses on it. Because he and his choom buddies showed up from time to time so ignorant people have tried to claim his is a constitutional scholar. BS!
        Because of laws passed by an ignorant CONgress, we have children graduating High School who can’t read at the sixth grade level.  Obama publicly amitted he has trouble with 6th grade math.  Yet he has control over the entire budget of the largest Nation on Earth.
        But if you are taught the Constitution (or any course) by a liberal/socialist/progressive professor in a like minded university, then the end result will almost always be people who think like the college/university wants them too.
        Obama is the most prominent example we have of this.
        The answer is to de-fund colleges and force them to teach real history and not revisionist history.

  188. donl says:

    Three Questions should be asked of anyone running for the presidency; Are you a Communist,  are you a Socialist , do you have friends that are socialists or communists.

    • askladybug says:

      @donl He would have just lied.  He lied about being baptized and a Christian.  He hates Christians since he is Muslim.  A communist is taught to lie to your enemy and so are the Muslims.  We are the enemies and he sees nothing wrong in lying through his teeth. Remember the Communists believe if you are going to lie make sure it is a big one and say it often.  pretty soon people will believe it.  It is so true, everyone beleives everything that comes out of that man’s moouth.

  189. lightvdark says:

    Machetes, Gallows, Bonfires, Gulags, Firing Squads, Pitchforks, Rakes, Torches, German Shepherds.—————–
     In my reading, I have seen the phrase…NOTHING CAN BE AS STUPID AS GODLESSNESS. I have added…SUICIDAL-PACIFISM-NONJUDGEMENTALISM, AND ISLAM_____________________________________
    Autistic-Adult-Children-Of-The-Damned, Verses THE ADULTS________________________________________.
    Deprived of meaningful work, men and women lose their reason for existence; they go stark, raving mad. Fyodor Dostoevsky________________________________________________________________________________.
    On ATHEISM;  If there is no God, everything is permitted. Fyodor Dostoevsky______________________________
    If you were to destroy the belief in immortality in mankind, not only love but every living force on which the continuation of all life in the world depended, would dry up at once. Fyodor Dostoevsky______________________
     On Worshiping OTHER PEOPLE(ACTORS AND OTHER DEMON-0-CRATS, FOR INSTANCE);is it not possible to eat me without insisting that I sing praises of my devourer? Fyodor Dostoevsky__________________________

  190. braveheart 1 says:

    marny, Regardless of the interprtation of EO # 13489, obama has denied every F.O.I.A. request to release his passport, college transcripts and a LEGITIMATE birth certificate to this day. Nobody would spend $1.7 million dollars to try to protect his identity, if he did’nt have something to hide. It is very hypocritical of him to claim this is the most transparent administration ever. Millions of Americans will continue to beat this dead horse till we get answers!!!!!

    • marny says:

      @braveheart 1
       braveheart: Without knowing what the source of your information is and how you came by your “facts”, it would be impossible for me to prove or disprove them.  The information I gave you is provable and from reliable sources, i.e., actual government sites such as the National Archives and Records Administration where each actual EO (that has ever been issued by any president) is duly recorded, word for word and made available to the public in PDF form; and http://www.gpo.gov just to name a couple.  I can, however, tell you that each individual president has the right to decide what, if anything, he will release regarding his PERSONAL records.  These records are not necessarily part and parcel of his PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS so are not subject to EO’s or any other executive directive and he may deny public access to them if he so chooses. You and I have that same privilege.  Much the same way that presidential candidates ARE NOT REQUIRED to release copies of their tax returns but they usually do under pressure from their opposition and the public.  Colleges and universities are under no obligation to release transcripts without the express permission of the student and no “hush money” is required to keep those records private. Birth certificates typically fall into that same category, however, a Hawaiian birth certificate WAS RELEASED early on and duly certified by the State of Hawaii, approved by the proper governmental authorities, and properly entered into the record as meeting the requirement for being “natural born”.  Therefore, no matter what you or I or millions of Americans, as you say, think about it…the MATTER IS SETTLED.  I don’t know that there is anything that anyone can do because as far as those WHO RUN THE SHOW are concerned, there is nothing that needs to be done.  He is the president, unfortunately, and no amount of “bitching about the birth certificate” on our part is going to change a thing.  The best we can do is keep an eye on what he and his “aids and abetters” are up to and try to prevent the further mass destruction of our Constitution.
      BTW, there IS NO law, regulation, requirement, agency, committee, rule or entity of any kind that REQUIRES a candidate, any candidate for federal office to produce a birth certificate, tax return, transcript, passport, or ID of any kind to prove eligibility for that office.  Vetting of candidates is left entirely up to the political parties who support them, the people who vote for them, and the media.  If we fail to do our jobs, then there is no one to blame but us.  If we desire real change in the way things are done, perhaps this is one aspect that we need to change and start requiring proof of eligibility.
      I have found no proof of the rumor that he has spent $1.7 million on hiding his records and there are plenty of materials out there detailing many facts about his early life, his associations, clubs he belonged to, friends, papers he wrote, his marajuana habit, year book pictures, jobs he held, and much more so, while he may not exactly be an “open-book”, there is an awful lot known about him.  It is the things I KNOW about him, not those that I don’t know that let’s me know that he is the wrong guy for the job!

      • above the law says:

        @braveheart 1
         As long as you take that attitude ,you will find yourself trampled by his boot,he will not stop until he has unchallenged power.While it”s true he may not be required to show a birth certificate,it is required that he be a natural born citizen of U.S.parents, that does not seem to be the case. My point is that in allowing him to continue he will grab so much power that all the fight in the world,for any issue that he doesn’t agree with, will be futile! Wether you  use the left’s discription and cry “Birther” doesn’t really matter,but in reality ‘the label has caused people such as yourself to give up on such a “fairytale”. This was and still is a tactic used by obama to discredit and throw focus off the real target.You sound well versed and intelligent,that won’t help when the boot is on your neck, you can’t see there is no compromise with this tyrant.Keep the faith,fight it your way,I’ll fight it mine!  see…orlytaitzesq.com  if you want to make a change!

        • marny says:

          @above the law  @braveheart 1
           Above the law, (if you were speaking to me – I am not sure – but if you were) I think you may have misunderstood me.  I have no problem with the term “birther” and I most certainly AM NOT FOR allowing the O to continue on, unchecked, grabbing more power.  You use the term “fairytale” in a different way than I do.  I see it as those who continue to chase the birth certificate issue as if it is going to somehow make a difference – I think time and much effort on the part of those who have been all over this issue without producing any positive results have proven that this particular issue is going nowhere.  The ones who wield the power have declared him to be eligible and no amount of clawing and screaming by the rest of us is going to change a thing.  Continuing in this futile attempt is what I call a “fairytale”.  It is past time for us to realize that and start living in OUR REALITY which is that we may have a Constitutionally unqualified president but since we were not able to “get him” on that issue, we must let that one go (for now) and concentrate our efforts on those issues where we at least may have some chance of stopping the carnage.  Someone has wisely said that the definition of stupidity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results.  Can’t you see that the birth certificate issue could fall into that category?  Someday, we may find out that all those allegations were true but what difference is that going to make now?  Getting off this train that is just going round and round in circles and jumping on another one that is chugging down the track is not what I call “compromise with a tyrant”.  It is what I call “smart”, as in “there is more than one way to skin a cat” – so if the method we have been using hasn’t worked then it is time to try another one.  We must move forward – not stand still clinging to an issue that has no traction.
          I am very familiar with Dr. Orly, having followed her since 2009 and having spoken to her in person, and while I admire her efforts, still think it’s past time to move on because as long as we are preoccupied here, we will not be able to move into a different direction when this damnable O tries to disarm us.  If that happens, we will be sunk!  Birth certificate or not!

        • braveheart 1 says:

          @above the law
           marny, All previous presidents were legitimate presidents when they signed EO’s. This Fraud is not a natural born citizen by his own admission. HE IS A USURPER,birth certificate or not.His father was a British citizen and he himself was a citizen of Indonesia.

        • DRLJR says:

          @braveheart 1  @above the law Mr Obama’s Indonesian citizenship is irrelevant to the eligibility issue since it was a result of his adoption by an Indonesian citizen.  This is based on the 1939 Eng Supreme Court case.  However, his father being a foreign citizen at Mr Obama’s birth is.  Mr Obama is a native born citizen, even if born in Kenya as far as I can tell from reading the applicable law, and thus is not President.  Nothing he does is Constitutional and lawful under the US Constitution – including judicial appointments.

        • marny says:

          @braveheart 1  @above the law
           braveheart, I agree about the “legitimate” presidents but just because WE think Obama is a fraud doesn’t change a thing.  He IS the president, rightly or wrongly and unless and until WE, the people, actually exercise our RIGHT to alter or abolish our abusive government and replace it with a NEW one, the EO’s still stand, just as if they had been written by a “legitimate” president!  It does not matter if the guy sprouts horns and grows a pointy tail, unless WE, the people act and overthrow the whole shootin’ match, he still enjoys all the perks, privileges, and protections of the law.  WE don’t get to choose which EO’s are legitimate and which are not simply because we think they were issued by a fraud.  Don’t you get that?

        • braveheart 1 says:

          @above the law
           Thanks marny for the info, but I don’t think I’ve explained myself clearly enough so here goes. Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro is a liar, and is not by definition of the U.S. Constitution a legitimate sitting president until he proves otherwise. Therefore, he will NEVER, EVER be my president!!!!!!!

        • marny says:

          @braveheart 1  @above the law
           I see your point and absolutely do respect it.  And, I am right there with you, supporting you in your decision and will even bring my gun to help protect your right to feel that way if need be, BUT…that position won’t protect you from the consequences of ignoring or breaking one of HIS laws.  I feel much the same way when it comes to denying my Lord and Savior – and am willing to accept the consequences of that position, when it comes down to it.  In many ways, that is what we have here – the Evil One versus Christ – and perhaps we are being asked to make a choice.  You and I are not so different afterall!

      • askladybug says:

        @braveheart 1 Now that seems odd to me.  It is the law he has to be a Naturalized citizen.  That means he has to be born of American citizens in the USA.  He used to say he was born in Kenya and so does his step grandma.  She says she was there.  So if you have to be a naturalized citizen shouldn’t you have to prove it?  Surely they don’t just take everyone’s word for it.  If you have two US parents and you are born say in England you become a dual citizen from both countries, but not a naturalized citizen of either.  It is a mute point and in that I agree.  We all know there have been what they call sleeper Muslims who come to this country and are model citizens.  They marry Americans and have children and then they get a call one day and now they are killers of Americans.  Such were those that flew the planes that hit the towers.  Who is to say he is not one of those?  He acts like he is.  He is doing everything in his power to destroy American while he tells the world and us it is for our own good.  There is a man that developed a very gentle way to usher cows to the slaughter.  They kept everything quiet and serene so they were not stressed as the gun was put to their heads and they were killed.  I believe that is what is happening to us.  We are gently being lead to the slaughter and being told to be calm, don’t make waves, everything is going to be alright.  It’s what Hitler told the Germanys and they believe him and worshiped him as their hero and savior.  We condemmed them for being so stupid and here we are.

        • marny says:

          @askladybug  @braveheart 1
           That’s right!  There is no law requiring birth certificate proof, but like no law requiring release of tax returns, it is usually done.  As I said before, perhaps we need to change the process and start REQUIRING proof of eligibility instead of depending on certification of the state where one says one was born, political parties, voters, and the media.  I would be all for that.

        • DRLJR says:

          @askladybug  @braveheart 1 It is always important to remember that Mr Obama is not a natural born citizen.  That requires one to be born in the country and BOTH parents be citizens at the time of the person’s birth (think of a tripod).  There are three types of citizenship in the US – natural born (described above), native born (1 or 2 legs of a tripod) and naturalized (no legs of the tripod).  The first two are acquired at birth and the third is acquired after birth.  Over the last 50 plus years people have confused the two with each other and equated them.
          There are those who ignore the actual written word of Law of Nations which is the source of the definition by claiming what Vattel wrote is not actually what he mean by reading more into the words and ignoring the actual definition given.  But the US Supreme Court has referenced the actual definition a number of times from 1824 to 1939.
          As a further note, Amendment 14 does not give citizenship to children born to diplomats, visitors, illegal aliens or migrant workers (which includes H1B workers).  Amendment 14 has a conditional clause “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and children born to person’s in the aforementioned groups are not “subject to the jurisdiction”.  Actual immigrants are.  See Elk (1875) and Ark (1898) for a good discussion of Amendment 14 citizenship.

        • marny says:

          @DRLJR  @askladybug  @braveheart 1
           DRLJR, thank you. It is encouraging to know that others have actually read and studied this situation.  Your comments are right on!

        • Freshwind says:

          @askladybug  @braveheart 1
           Just posting to say –  What is happening with Obama is just the latest in what has been planned since the beginning of this country.  Washington DC  belongs to England –  and the Illuminati are behind the scenes.  All the presidents have been used by them .  JFK woke and saw the truth and tried to get the people with him –  so the secret service killed him.  I would suggest you all read the book Brotherhood f Darkness by Stanley Monteith  and go and do research – you can find that this is what’s happening.

      • braveheart 1 says:

        marny, there is plenty of information about this. INS records (cards) filled out for passengers arriving on International flights to Hawaii are missing. Flight records are also missing from the National Archives (confirmed) for the week of Obamas birth.Reels 184 and 185 are missing.
        Sources; Free Republic,  Western Center for Journalism, & Times 24/7

    • askladybug says:

      @braveheart 1 The money he spent wasn’t in bribes it was in lawyers fees to put injunctions against the institutions to make sure nothing leaked out.  I agree with Braveheart.  I want to know.  But yet I know I never will.  There is no one left to ask.  Everyone in his family is dead.  There was a law in Hawaii that said even though a child was born in a foreign country if their parents were American and Hawaiian that child could become an American citizen if they filled out the proper paper work.  This is probably how he became an American citizen, but it is not a naturalized citizen.  You know the only other leaders to ever hide their origin of birth were Stalin and Hitler?  It makes him in the right company at least.  I don’t like the fact that he has something to hide.  Too much to hide.  I have read articles that say the reason he doesn’t want anyone to know what his real name is, is because he was involved in the drug trade when he was in Chicago and he may even have an arrest record in his own name.  Now I do not think there is any proof but it does explain a lot if it were true.  You see if you don’t tell all then people go around guessing, which I think is worse.  If he is doing it because he changed his name from Barry but didn’t do it legally, who cares?  I could live with that.  It’s the lying and the secrets that make me edgy.  Do you know that right after they broke into his records he made an anouncement that he went to Pakgastan during college and went to Indonesia to see his mother.

      • braveheart 1 says:

         He would have had to use an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981 because it was off limits to U.S. tourists at that time. I believe he won’t release his college records because they would show he received financial aid to go to college as a foreign student.They would also show his place of birth and his Indonesian citizenship. I do believe however he was born in Maumbassa, Kenya.Check it out!!!!

        • DRLJR says:

          @braveheart 1  @askladybug The Indonesian passport issue is really a non-issue.  Unless he used one after age 21.  People forget that age 21 is the age of majority for citizenship related issues – not 18.

  191. lightvdark says:

    I only drank, drugged and catted around for 10 years in my mis-spent youth…BOTTOM, WAS, AMAZING-GRACE-&-PURE-WHITE-LIGHT…I don’t know if AmeriKa is going to HIT BOTTOM, before a BLOOD-BATH ENSUES, NOT INCLUDING OVER 56,000,000 unborn babies……………………………………………………………………………………………………
    While we were being TOLERANT, INCLUSIVE, FORGIVING, MULTICULTURAL, BI-CURIOUS AND NONJUDGEm3N7^l, http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?531-Western-Khristians-LITE-ADORE-GAY-PIGS-DOGS-AND-JIHADIST-SAVAGES  I think we ought to just make Bill Clinton, Sexretary General of the GAY-UN¿!¡
    http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/dishmael_bucket/Piecekeepirs.jpg UN Piecekeepers on the job, in Deepest-Darkest-Afrikey…

  192. braveheart 1 says:

    marny, Thank you for replying with the info.  You may want to do some research about the records missing from the National Archives (reels 184 and 185) for the week obama says he was born in Hawaii. The only week missing over a 10 year period was Aug. 1 thru 8 1961.
    Also you may want to research the 2 different Certification Documents Nancy Pelosi signed. The one she sent to Hawaii was much different than the ones her and the DNC sent to the other 49 states. Also check out Sheriff Joe Arpaios “cold case posse” 6 month investigation of Barack Obama or (Barry Soetoro) and you’ll be amazed at the indisputable facts he uncovered. Please let me know how you make out?

    • marny says:

      @braveheart 1
       Well, yes, I am somewhat familiar with these issues. From my work done with the NARA, I know that there are numerous missing documents and items from the National Archives, some missing for many years.  In accessing their site that enumerates these missing items, I can find no mention of microfilm reels missing from the week of Obama’s birth, either INS records or any other kind.  Not being able to go to the Archives myself and search, I, unfortunately, have to rely on the Archivists’ lists.  You did not tell me where your information came from but the research I have done, including accessing archival books at the library, all list great numbers of missing items but none specific to microfilm reels for the week of Obama’s “supposed” birth.  Additionally, the fact-checking sites I usually find to be reliable all list the allegation of Obama’s missing records as “rumor”.  In the case of Sheriff Joe – if his investigation went so well, why was Obama’s name allowed to remain on the Arizona ballot?  Wasn’t that part of the point of this investigation?
      Braveheart, I wish I had all the answers, but sadly, I do not.  I find that most of the web sites that tout these allegations are the same ones that push all the conspiracy theories.  WND (WorldNetDaily) being chief among them.  While there are many good things on this site, their primary goal is to sell books, etc., and by their own admission (Joseph Farrah, in particular) their stated mission is not to present “facts” but to foster and promote “theories”.  WND is behind the Swift Boat story that sunk John Kerry’s campaign a few years back and, while I was glad about that, it was revealed after the fact, that much of the supposed “truth” they presented was actually huge exaggerations and not a few outright lies but, to them, it was okay because it accomplished its stated purpose.  Joseph Farrah, the head of the organization, admitted in a fairly recent interview when accused of promoting lies, that their intent was not to present cold, hard facts but to espouse “theories” that would cause folks to think “outside of the box”.  Some of the sites that are touting this story about the missing reels, such as obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com; freerepublic; and thefogbow.com refer the researcher back to WND for the full story.
      So, I cannot say with any degree of certainty that Sheriff Joe has it right or that these microfilm reels are indeed missing under mysterious circumstances.  But, what I can say is that, in the big picture, IT DOES NOT MATTER.  Obama IS president and that will not be changed (barring an Act of God) and we need to concentrate on the things WE CAN DO to prevent him from totally dismantling our Consitution and our country, and find new ways to hold our Congressmen and women’s feet to the fire, making them accountable for their actions.  If we continue to allow ourselves to hang around this “dead horse” beating it, soon we will all “stink-to-high-heaven” and will have missed the other dastardly things that are happening just down the road that we might have prevented had we not been fixated on a carcass.
      Just my thoughts.  Yours may be different.  My desire is just to present the cold, hard facts, as I know them, and let others decide for themselves.  I am angry that this unholy man is attempting to take our country’s founding documents and twist them into something that none of us recognize.  The “law” seems to be on his side in many areas, but if WE, the people, put our minds to the task at hand and let go of those things we can do nothing about and concentrate on those that we can, like this gun control issue – maybe, just maybe we will be able to put the brakes on this downhill slide!
      Thanks for listening.

  193. lightvdark says:

    The Demonocrats have decimated the black family. Our cities are open cesspools. _______
    Gun violence by Baby _Travon_Slaves, is SUCCESSFULLY BLAMED ON HONKIES»»»» The best thing the 0mama-Regime can do, is to start passing out rainbow coloured MACHETES AND SPEARS._______________________________________________________________________
    A recent study suggests that African Americans have a 3 times higher (or 200% greater) likelihood of developing schizophrenia during their lives. _______________________________
    http://schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/005560.html _________________________________
    The International Journal of Epidemiology states in the study published in a recent issue, that: “The data indicate substantially elevated rates of schizophrenia among African Americans in comparison with whites in this birth cohort”.________________________________

    • DRLJR says:

      @lightvdark The Democratic Party is composed of and under the control of Progressives.  Black-Americans need to look at the history of the Progressive movement in this country.  Progressives wanted to do to Black-Americans what Hitler did to the Jews.  That is one reason Planned Parenthood was founded – to eliminate undesirables.  The Progressive movement is rooted in racism. 
      Woodrow Wilson set Black-Americans back at least 70 years when he segregated the US military.  But until Black-Americans stop buying into the lies of the Progressives and drop their own racist attitudes the Progressives will continue to be able to manipulate them into helping in their own destruction.

  194. Richard Vandervort says:

    The countless requests for proof of eligibility to run or hold the office of the presidency have been rejected and do we see representation from our other elected official’s in Congress or the Senate to put an end to the uncertainty of a ineligible candidate no.
    Realizing the depth of corruption within our government isn’t hard to see, All you need to do is open your eye’s to seeing it and if you want to be truthful even a blind man can see it if his hearing isn’t impaired too.
    With each new executive order seeing many to being above the rightful powers of the president and unlawful do we see congress stepping up to stop Obama no so we have no known representation from either party of filth in Washington.
    We have out of control spending and taxation with no representation because even when the people demand these actions stop they just push through the politically corrupt agendas again leaving the population again unrepresented.
    The misuse and perversion of our Constitution to the point of impeachable offences and no one doing a thing to stop them just shows the level of corruption verses proper representation from elected officials again that says government has no desires to clean up the cesspool called Washington DC.
    If we truly want to send our message to Washington shouldn’t we be putting millions of people in the streets to make our demands on Inauguration Day.
    My God people it’s our country that’s being destroyed along with the future of our children and grandchildren were letting slip away and their ever living in freedom and I still believe this is well worth fighting for.
    Let’s send a message great enough that Washington can’t ignore and lame stream media can’t cover up or overlook.

    • DRLJR says:

      @Richard Vandervort Mr Obama has already publicly admitted he is not eligible to be President and is therefore not President and EVERYTHING he has done is NULL and VOID.  The people of the country need to wake up and act on it.  A  natural born citizen is a person born in the country of parents who are citizens.  Mr Obama has stated his father is one Barack Hussein Obama a native of Kenya who was never a citizen of the United States.  Thus Mr Obama has already admitted he is not President. 
      Any order he gives is null and void and any person who obeys any order is guilty of High Crimes and possibly treason.  No bill Mr Obama signs into law has any force of law nor any appointment he makes is valid.  We must advertise these facts and the reasons these facts are true.  Look for the case “Purpura v Sebelius” as well as the other cases involving the eligibly issues.  What you will find in each of these cases Judges ignored the law, prior Supreme Court rulings that reference the definitions, and the real meaning of standing as it applies in a Court of Law.

      • VeeDub says:

        @DRLJR  @Richard Vandervort
        I agree; the EOs issued and Bills signed into law, from the undocumented worker occupying our White House can be overturned.
        Unfortunately nobody, NOBODY in CONgress (the only body of our government that can do it) has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the endless (baseless) charges of “racist” from media and black community.
        There is no courage to do the right thing in CONgress, all they are capable of today is doing the PC thing.
        Every member of CONgress is afraid they will lose the votes of the gays, blacks, and white socialists who think they are black. 
        What they are too stupid to have figured out, is they won’t get their votes anyway, no matter what.  That’s been proven in the last two Presidential elections.

  195. fighting for freedom says:

    the method through which representation expressing our distrust of the politicians has failed – this method is writing to your representatives wherein they reply with a form letter thanking you for your interest yet provides no means through which they will take action to represent ones desires – with this, recommendation as to the course of action to eliminate the corruption is of interest as the cover up right down to the last rank and file employee has created the greatest debacle of honor among thieves – it used ot be that politicians stopped at looting you of your hard earned tax dollars – now they are threatining the very foundations of our soveirgnty which will result in us being wards of these thieves to hand pick who survives and who doesn’t – I am open to whatever actions are culpable that may result in the change to maintain our freedoms, rights and capacity to further propser our christain based principles – ceasing foreign aid unless the recipient provides firm compensation in the form of resources or other productive aspect of their society may be a start rather than promising to export their 2 legged filth to this country – further, military protection must also come at a cost as thiscan be the method for sustaining our military as ovomit has bankrupted our budget forsaking the capacity to maintain a strong military which protects our interests wherein he has forsked our capacity to maintain our freedoms to provide enitlements to buy the votes of he miscreants wherein these are the very individuals and entities which seek to bring us to our knees as they provide no motivation to do other than receive these entitlements while they exploit our youth with drugs and decadent cultural ammorality – don’t ghetto me down to their level – this president will not rot in hell b/c he is muslim that is insidiously lying to us with every teleprompted canned speech wherein he tells the citizenry what they need to hear and then legislates in the opposed direction – none dare call it conspiracy  – none dare call it treason as i am sure this blog is closely monitored by big brother and his collectivism motives toward socialsim and ultimately coomunism will result in the elimination of the usles idiots in mass graves to come whom will be the very entitlees that voted him into mine and your oval office so he can desecrate the very furniture that has represnted the historical legacy of freedom and achievement through placing his feet on the desk – respect is earned not executive ordered – citizen arrest may be an option if can get close enough to him

  196. braveheart 1 says:

    obama has bankrupted this country with his Socialist policies. The total cost for his innaugaration will cost U.S. taxpayers over $100 million dollars. While the obamas will be eating lobster and drinking fine wine, I, like many victims of Hurricane Sandy will be at the kitchen table (with coat on), having peanut butter sandwiches and a glass of milk.

    • icetrout says:

      @braveheart 1  This ain’t good… Last time someone said”Let them eat cake” it didn’t end well for the elites…

    • VeeDub says:

      @braveheart 1
      While I despise the policies of obama as much as the next patriotic American, we cannot place ALL of the blame on the choomer-in-chief.
      Who has the power to stop him?  CONgress.  Their actions, their inactions, are why we are where we are today.  CONgress is the real reason we’re posting to this site.
      CONgress is the ONLY body of our government who has Constitutional authority to pass laws and spend OUR money!
      If we don’t fix CONgress, we can never hope to fix the President (who ever it is) and the Nation.

  197. above the law says:

    go to orlytaitzesq.com… get behind this and push your reps. and speaker Boehner to do what they have sworn under oath to do..send this site to them!.if we all get behind this, maybe justice will prevail,it certaintly won’t if we don’ try.it  takes numbers and donations (if you can afford) to change this destruction of our freedom, here is somebody who is moving forward!, help and numbers are needed!! GO!

  198. VeeDub says:

    I don’t think there is anyone here is arguing that Presidents can’t issue Executive Orders.
    I don’t think anyone here is Arguing that EOs aren’t covered in the Constitution.
    What is being (rightfully) argued is are they a law?  The answer is NO!
    Do they have the “effect” of law?  Yes!
    The President can issue an EO to “DO” things like provide disaster relief and set policy.

  199. VeeDub says:

    Articl 1 Section 1 U.S. Constitution: 
    “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”
    Congress has ALL (100%) of the power to make ANY U.S. Laws, as is clearly specified in the very first sentence of our Nation’s ultimate legal document.
    IF any President issues an EO, it does not become ‘law” simply because nobody challenges it.  Yes Congress, the Supreme Court, and most ignorant people in the country consider it to be “law”, but by definition of “laws” as written in the Constitution it is NOT a law.
    All federal laws must be brought to the floor in a Bill, voted on, passed, ratified and then signed before they become legal.
    Section 1 is a vesting clause, granting all the federal government’s legislative authority to Congress. Similar vesting clauses are found in
    Articles II and III, which grant “the executive power” to the President and “the judicial power” to the federal judiciary. In legal garb, the working definition of “herein” connotes specificity and exclusivity.
    The Vesting Clauses thus establishes the principle of separation of powers by specifically giving to each branch of the federal government only those powers it can exercise and no others.
    THIS MEANS THAT NO BRANCH MAY EXERCISE POWERS THAT PROPERLY BELONG TO ANOTHER (e.g., since the legislative power is only vested in Congress, the executive and judiciary may not enact laws). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress

    • DRLJR says:

      @VeeDub  marny: And since Mr Obama does not meet the first qualification of Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5 nothing he does is valid.  We just have to people and the Judges to acknowledge it.

    • marny says:

      @VeeDub  marny:
       VeeDub, I do not disagree with you on your interpretation of the Constitution and I have posted several times here that the Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of EO’s based upon their broad interpretation of Article II, Sections 1 and 3 and that only 3 times in the history of this nation has the Court struck down any EO.  I am a student of the Constitution and presently hold college certification in Constitutional Studies, not that that is worth a “hill-of-beans”, (you also exhibit a superb knowledge of the Constitution), but your argument that EO’s do not become “law” simply because no one challanges them seems to be basically a disagreement in semantics.  If you have studied EO’s then you know that Congress has 30 days to challenge an EO after it is published; otherwise the EO has, and I quote, “the full force of the law” behind it.  Perhaps the words, ” becomes law” are not the ones that need to be used.  Nowhere in the Court’s opinion do they say that EO’s issued by presidents who some consider “illegal” or “fraudulent” can be ignored.  EO’s are SUPPOSED to be issued based upon existing legislation in order to “expand” or “clarify” that legislation and are specifically prohibited from MAKING NEW LAW.  The Judicial Branch is not supposed to legislate from the bench either…BUT THEY DO!
      All I am saiying is, yes, we have a wonderful Constitution and if it were followed to the letter, all would be right with the world.  Unfortunately it has been denigrated, ignored, usurped, and all but made useless over many years by presidents, Congress, and the Courts alike.  We are not living in the better world presided over by a just Constitution but rather in the “real world” that has been created by power-grabbing politicians and others, and if we, who are on the same side, can stop “bickering” with each other long enough, perhaps we can exercise our “rights” and restore our country and our Constitution to its original glory.

      • VeeDub says:

        If we don’t “bicker” and get the facts straight, then when we hit the system restore button, what do we restore to? That which was wrong, but accepted? If so, then why bother restoring anything?
        I have a masters from SIU, my majors are in political science and Constitutional law. I don’t know everything about the law or the Constitution, nor do I claim to. What you cite as being “my interpretation” is not “mine”.
        Those are the knowledgeable determinations of the facts of the U.S. Constitution by those much more knowledgeable than me. That’s why I offer references on most of my posts, and use quotation marks or caps, to support what is posted.
        Repeating myself, I’m not saying EOs aren’t legal. I’m saying they are given status they are not supposed to have by CONgress and the Supreme Court and that Americans, ignorant of the Constitution don’t know their limitations.
        I’m saying that the way CONgress and the SC have “interpreted” and handled the authority specifically covered in the Constitution is unconstitutional, or just plain wrong. 
        And it is wrong for us to blindly accept it, just because it’s what they do.
        I’m saying that members of CONgress have an agenda, SC justices have an agenda, and all are human.  And we all know humans aren’t perfect, and those with power are apt to use their power to advance their agenda or way of thinking.
        Yes we know that CONgress lets the President get away with doing it. Yes we know the SC has ruled on it.
        What I’m asserting ( by posting the citations of educated experts ), is that the way they are allowed to work today, and in the past, is to allow the President to do what he and probably most of CONgress want, without CONgress being held accountable, either for what’s in the EO, or CONgress not asserting it’s power and following the Constitution.
        IF we as a people don’t know what is right, then how on earth can we fight to restore our country correctly?  If we don’t know the limitations of the Constitutional authority of EOs, ( and each branch of government ) then we (in our ignorance) will restore them to what we “thought” and accepted when they were being  wrongly accepted!
        Please read this again.  This is not MY “interpretation”.
        THIS MEANS THAT NO BRANCH MAY EXERCISE POWERS THAT PROPERLY BELONG TO ANOTHER (e.g., since the legislative power is only vested in Congress, the executive and judiciary may not enact laws). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress 
        I’m saying the problem isn’t this, or any, President issuing EOs.  I’m saying CONgress is the problem.  CONgress is where the system restore button must be hit first.  JMHO

        • marny says:

          @VeeDub  marny:
           VeeDub:  You are not hearing me!  I DO NOT DISAGREE with you on any point you have made.  Most of us here probably KNOW what is right and what our country should be restored to; that is why we are having this discussion in the first place.  It is likely that many who have not been educated in the Constitution, including the Federalist Papers and all the supporting documents for the establishment of our Constitution may not be aware that MOST of the agencies, departments, and federal programs that we live with today are, in themselves, NOT CONSTITUTIONAL.  As a country and as a people we are way beyond what the Constitution says is right.  And, yes – I actually fault Congress much more than I do any president.  One Congressman, not so long ago when questioned about the constitutionality of something he had helped to pass, laughed and quipped, and I quote: “Hell!  Almost NOTHING we do is Constitutional!”  That is pretty damning evidence.
          My point is:  This country IS NOT functioning by what the Constitution says and HAS NOT BEEN for a very long time, and most of us already know that, so refuting every point that any of us tries to make about how things are REALLY going down in the REAL WORLD by quoting the Constitution is not necessarily helping to solve the problem.  I am all for educating the “unaware” masses on what the Constitution says but some of us ARE AWARE and we are fired up and looking for ways to bring our country back into compliance with that awesome document.  At the same time, we are trying to help those who continue to say “They can’t do that because this is the United States of America”, understand that yes, indeed, “they” CAN do that; “they” ARE doing that (even though it is wrong); and unless and until WE stop living in our “fairytale” world of denial and start exercising our RIGHTS as citizens to correct an oppressive government, 50 years from now our grandchildren will still be discussing what the Constitution says (provided it even still exists) from their “slave” camps.

    • askladybug says:

      @VeeDub  marny: I understand what the law says, but that does not seem to be what is happening on Capital Hill. Congress is furious over the fact that he signed into law with the use of an executive order something they had voted down.  If they couldn’t easily stop it I do not believe they would be angry.  And if he was not able to create a bill with his signature then why is he threatening Congress telling them if they don’t pass a bill he will just go above their heads and sign it into law anyway.  You may have the facts and the law, but that does not mean that this President or anyone else, it appears, is going by the law.  That is what we have all been trying to convey to you, this President is very dangerous because he believes he is above the law and feels no one can stop him and for what ever reason he seems to be right.  At least for now.  We just have to get some legislature into the white house with a little back home who aren’t afraid.

      • VeeDub says:

        Ms. Ladybug I submit to you, it is a show!
        Professional wrestlers rehearse their moves together out of sight of the cameras. Then they get on stage fuss, cuss, and challenge, then beat the crap out of each other. When the show is over they get paid and go have dinner together, or some go home together.
        It’s all a show that makes them rich. CONgress is doing the exact same thing!
        IF CONgress wanted to stop anything they could do it. Everything the conservatives wanted done could have been passed when they controlled both Houses of CONgress. If the socialist/democrats wanted to create jobs after President Bush, (or even during his last 2 years), they could have passed ANY jobs Bill they wanted.
        Obama had 2 years of socialist/democrat control in CONgress. What got fixed? NOTHING, all they did was pass obamaDOESN’Tcare.
        THAT was what they cared about. NOT jobs, not the economy, nothing else mattered to them. Unemployment didn’t matter, that’s why it hit 10%. Not because of anything President Bush did, but because of everything CONgress did or didn’t do.
        EVERY problem this Nation has is as a direct result of the actions (or inaction) of CONgress. I fail to understand how Americans cannot recognize the root cause of our situation. It’s a festering boil that grows exponentially every year in the halls of CONgress.
        CONgress acts like it cares and it is working “for” us.  Obviously they’re pretty good actors!

  200. askladybug says:

    I think the only thing we can do about schools teaching our young people wrong values is to teach them at home.  You can take college classes on line.  At least then you don’t get the professors liberal attitude.  One time my son had a history date in his history book.  I told him it was wrong.  He said, “I can’t be it is written in a book.”  I told him he better not put that answer on his test paper because it is wrong.  He said, “If I mark it the way you say to I will get in wrong on the test, so what am I to do, listen to you or my teacher.”  I called his teacher and told her what I can found.  She laughed and said,” yeah the book is full of mistakes but it is the book we have to teach out of.”  There was another teacher who ignored the book and taught with lectures.  She was told if she didn’t teach strictly from the book, even though it was wrong, she would be fired.”  The only solution I can see is if you really care about what your kids are taught, keep them home and teach them what you think is important to learn.  This way they won’t get bullied, they won’t be influenced by drugs.  They won’t fall in love and then know the heartbreak of breaking up.  They won’t have peer pressure to coax them to do something they shouldn’t, like sneaking out in the middle of the night.  Take them to church so they have a social outlet.  Let them go to church dances and church activities.  If your church doesn’t do that kind of thing, take them to the nearest LDS church.  Teach your children that family is the most important thing and obeying God’s commandments.  The world is so messed up why throw them out there to fend for themselves.  My son was beaten and bullied his whole time in school up until he was a senior.  Why didn’t I do something?  I didn’t know he never said a word, he just came home and picked on his little brothers and sisters.  He was even tied to a flag pole outside the school.  In my day they were not letting parents home school.  Parents were losing their children over it.  Now it is different.  There is a website that teaches the same classes as in school, only now you get to monitor it and decide what is trash and what is not.

  201. braveheart 1 says:

    I have been following Orly Taitz for the last 3 years. Also Phillip Berg. They are both American heroes in my book. Also Terry Lakin who spent 6 months in Leavenworth because of the piece of trash occupying the White House. The liberal judge would not allow him to present evidence or allow reputable Generals to testify in her Kangaroo court!!!!!
    Talk about injustice, our whole judicial system is corrupt.

  202. MrLucky says:

    At least you have something to eat! R. H. I. P

  203. lightvdark says:

    I really HATE IT, when some commenters go on, for 15 screens with Bible chapters and verses, DEMANDING, that I FORGIVE EVIL———————————+————– DON’T EVEN THINK, BAD THOUGHTS ABOUT GAYS AND FEMARXISTS, PIGS! ——– http://www.profam.org/pub/fia/fia.2202.htm————————————————-
     “RADICAL FEMINISM IS TOTALITARIAN BECAUSE IT DENIES THE INDIVIDUAL A PRIVATE SPACE; EVERY PRIVATE THOUGHT AND ACTION IS PUBLIC AND, THEREFORE, POLITICAL[^],” writes Bork.  “The party or the movement claims the right to control every aspect of life.”[4] Daphne Patai also perceives this hostility to privacy.  Feminism today, in its erasure of the boundaries between public and private, is writing a new chapter in the dystopian tradition of surveillance and unfreedom,” she observes, “.

  204. Richard Vandervort says:

    We’ve faced some horrific time through American history but none so horrifying as what we face today.
    We have allowed our government to become so corrupted that they now think we work for them versus the truth that they too are employed by the people.
    Obama and company have made a mockery of everything America has stood for long enough and seeing as other elected officals have the needed backbone to stop them it’s surely time the people did.
    We’re about to have an illegal sitting president sworn in to office again and what are we doing about it but wasting time crying on the internet instead of putting millions on the streets of Washington to say their not going to get away with it anymore.
    Has America become as weak as the rest of the world see’s us because it sure looks that way to me.
    The complaisant attitude of the people is disturding at best when I think how easy it is to put massive numbers of citizens in the streets for causes far less important then the very survival of freedom within our own nation.
    On inauguration day if you can’t see yourself there in Washington demanding the end of Obamas rule verses the start of yet another four more years you don’t deserve the freedom others put their lives on the line to give you.

  205. askladybug says:

    braveheart1  That was good information.  I had not thought of that as a reason for not wanting his college records seen.  But it is all speculation until we find out the truth.  I was born very curious and i hate liars above all else.  It is easy to lie to me, just ask my five kids, because since i never lied I never thought anyone else was lying.  It takes a lot to convince me that someone is a habitual liar, but I am convinced Barry is.  I am convinced that it was the way he was raised.  I have opted out of this conversation, so good luck to you all.  Remember it is not enough to be angry you have to do something in order for change to happen.  It may not be much but it is something and that is tell your representatives how you feel and how you want them to vote.

  206. Richard Vandervort says:

    When we can’t stand up for our own rights and freedom here in America how can we ask people in other countries to stand up for their’s because we tell them too.
    We have let a Communist grown Muslim from Indonesia to be infiltrated into our highest possible place of power and yet we haven’t made one honest effort to change this so what make you think you deserve to being free now.
    Our greatest power in America is the power of the people and the very thing that has held off all the chose to attack us and this is what needs to be revived once again today, The power of the people and not the power of the government because we are indeed the government.

    • askladybug says:

      @Richard Vandervort It is not fair to say we have done nothing about getting him out.  We voted him out and because of a corrupt voting system he got in anyway.  Then there were teams of lawyers who went to one state Supreme court after another, but to no avail. Other than mobbing the White House and forcibly taking him out, what would you have us do?  We have a corrupt government right now.  This man could not do what he is doing if there were not those up there to let him.  They are sheep and have no backbones.  We need to send conservative men with backbone to Washington to fight for us.  We do not want a civil war.  I am not saying we will never have a civil war.  We may well have to fight for our freedom and kick the Communist dog out of office and out of our country.  Did you hear the latest as to why the Ambassador lost his life.  It was supposed to be a hostage situation which the seals foiled.  Obama was going to rescue the Ambassador and look like a hero just before the election.  That is why they told the seals to stand down.  Can you imagine putting someones life in danger just so you can get elected?  Every time I think I can no longer be shocked by this man’s behavior I am still shocked.  This is shocking.  That means he is not only guilty of treason for supplying our enemy and Israel’s enemy  weapons but of murder.  Did he not think that was a possibility of his actions?  He really does think he is above reproach.  He believes no one can or will stop him.  Why?  Ego?  He is so close to be exactly like Hitler it is scary.  Everyone was afraid of Hitler and afraid to cross him because of the KGB.  I think Obama has the black mobs and gangs in his corner.  Remember he is from the black part of Chicago.  Police won’t even mess with them.  We have a problem of that there is no doubt but do you have a solution?  If so tell us all.

      • Richard Vandervort says:

        @askladybug What has truly amazed me is the level of corruption that we have allowed into our government in the last 50 years.
        I started watching and following our world and political history when I was about 6 only because TV was a new thing and my Dad brought home one of the first TV’s in the neighborhood, Comming from the Philadelphia area boy does that date me. Most of what we had to watch was news like summit meetings of world leaders and seeing leaders from the communist block saying how they would overtake the USA and never fire the first shot really sunk in and one of the reasons following politic’s just came natural.
        When Obama first showed up running for the Senate I noticed how the Democrats were building him up and told friends the party had big plans for him and was called a nut for what I thought.
        Before the big coverup alot of his history was still there if you were looking for it and I was. Little things like Obama being considered a person of interest in 3 murder cases of gay men thought to be his ex-gay lovers was one of the first things I found. Obama’s college records or lack of records to back the stories being told in building up his background was another thing I found to be suspicious too. Obama having lifetime memberships in many gay clubs was yet another eye opener but all these things were quickly hidden when he was given the chance to go for the Democrats candidate for the President. Obama’s whole true history of filth and corruption goes on and on and his only job held was as a redical political organizer before being elected to the Senate was yet another fowl odor to his background. Obama being a member of the American Communist Party should have keeped him out but many on Capital Hill are members too.
        Our only answers now to Obama comes down to a few choices and one is millions in the streets demanding his proof of eligibility and the other would be the people demanding secession from the federal union of the United States to relinquishing his power over them in each state that withdraws.

        • askladybug says:

          @Richard Vandervort  @askladybug  All 50 states filed petitions to secede from the union. I just got word that they were all turned down.  Besides all the states would have to fight their way out.  Glad to hear from someone close to my age.  You too remember Reagan and what went on with him.  We need to send men and women of courage to Washington.  Get the Democrats out of the Senate.  He cannot be impeached except through the Senate.  I too saw all the early signs with Obama or Barry as I like to call him.  I did not wake up fully to him until this election.  I just knew in the first election that he was lying.  I told my husband that for some reason I didn’t believe a word that came out of his mouth.  I refused to vote for him.  Most people don’t care about politics.  They consider it a waste of their time.  They live in America and we have checks and balances so we don’t have to worry.  We have been told for years it really didn’t matter who got into office, that the President was just a figure head and had no real power.  Now we have the opposite.  We have a President wielding power right and left and a Congress that has no power.  What happened?  We were not paying attention.  We left our freedom in someone else’s hands.  It is time we took back our country and it is going to have to be up to old people like us.  We still care.  We were raised in the 50s and early 60s when people still cared and we still had morals and values.  We live in a world that stresses doing for self is front and foremost the most important thing.  Giving children everything they want is being good to them.  Gadgets rule the world.  No one has time for freedom.  If we can’t wake up our young people to at least pay attention then this country is doomed and cannot be saved.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @Richard Vandervort  @askladybug Nobody ever mentions the Illinois newspaper articles that tell of him protesting in the streets against Israel in favor of the “palestinians” which most of us know there is no such people in history. These are those left over from the war in 48′ that were not allowed back into their respective countries. I too never trusted him in the first place. I haven’t always been into politics but I too am about your age cause I remember Arthur Godfrey! ha-ha! I read some of the same things you did and also found articles where Hillary was threatened to shut up or Chelsea would be killed.

  207. askladybug says:

    I think it is a great idea to go to Washington DC on inauguration day.  If it were not for the fact I live in Oregon I would be there, freezing my tooch off with the rest of them.  I think anyone who lives anywhere near Washington should go.  I hope there are millions lining the streets in protest.  I do not think it will do any good, nothing phases this man.  I think that is why people won’t do anything.  They really don’t know what they can do other than bury their heads and hope and pray it all goes away.  It’s not going to go away.  I know I am preaching to the choir.  Everyone reading this already is at least talking about what can be done to make a difference.  For it to even get noticed by the news there will have to be millions there.  But then again how to millions get there and where do they park and where would they stand.  We were to bring weapons to demand he step down as President they would bring out the army and lots would die, so that is not an option, so what is there left to do?  We may have to wait until the next election and make sure not one Democrat gets elected and make sure there are armies of Republicans at the polls even if the armies have to be armed.  If a voting machine in not working, rip it out.  We have got to change the voting laws so that it is by popular vote, not the way it is now.  It is too easy to cheat the way the system is now.  I for one am praying very hard for this country.  I suggest we all do that.  It is a good place to start.  Remember George Washington went into his tent at Valley Forge and prayed for two days straight while his waited outside the tent.  While he was there an angel visited him three times and told him that he must attack the British and he promised that no one would get killed.  He obeyed he attacked, no one died and we sent the British on their way and had all their supplies.  It was the turning point of the war and it started with prayer.  Oh, George Washington came out and told all his men about what had happened to him in the tent.  It was common knowledge back then.  The angel also showed GW all the US would become.  The angel appeared three times and told him the same thing three times.  I know a lot of you will probably not believe what I just told you and that’s ok, it doesn’t change whether or not it is true.  I suggest you ask God, he is the only one who can tell you if it is true.

    • Ltpar says:

       Where is our George Washington and more importantly where are those angels when we need them most?

      • askladybug says:

        @Ltpar We have to elect them.  We have to start looking for that quality in our representatives.  They have to love America and have money so they aren’t doing it for the a big paycheck.  They have to be committed to less government. I do not care if they are charismatic or handsome.  We have to stop focusing on the outside and pay more attention to the inside.  We also have to care less if they have been there a long time, if they are not doing their jobs get rid of them.  I hate the word incumbent.  To some people this means they are untouchable much like a teacher with tenure.  In Oregon you don’t know from the information pamphlet  who is the incumbent and who is the new candidate for that race.  I like that.  That way I vote for the person.  But we need to start looking at their records and seeing how they voted.  My two Democratic Senators Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkly have F scores.  We are in a union state and the union tells its members to vote Democrat or they will lose their unions.  Out of fear the union members vote Democrat, which is nuts.  The Republicans aren’t going to do away with the unions. They may clean them us, which would be welcomed, but not do away with them.  A lot of good things come with unions.  This next election I am going to use my campaigning skills to get some Republicans elected.  We are going to turn their records against them.  You do the same in your state.  We need to wake up and realize even if you have a Republican in your state as Senator we need a majority to get anything done.  Did you hear Obama on TV today blaming everything on the Republicans?  He refuses to cut spending and wants Congress to raise the debt sealing so he can spend more.  I don’t care if the Government comes to a grinding halt come the middle of Feb.  Other than my social security check, which is done automatically anyway, I will not miss it. They don’t want it to happen because they are afraid we won’t miss the big government.  Let them all go home.  We have state Senates and State Representatives who can take care of all our needs just fine.

        • Ltpar says:

           You have some excellent ideas and I commend you for not giving up.  A bigger problem however is; people who are electing and sending the Representatives to Washington to allegedly represent us.  They get to Washington and are confronted with the scenario outlined in the Bible, Matthew 6:24 – “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Unfortunately, most choose to serve mammon and that is why as a country we are in the bind today?  Mammon only wants power, money and to enslave the masses of gullible people.  Check out the short video attached which demonstrates that:  http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb.
          In the end, it will be God’s Plan which prevails and perhaps letting America hit  bottom and self destruct before rebuilding is part of that plan.  Keep the faith because it will be needed in times to come.

        • askladybug says:

          @Ltpar That is a very good website.  Everyone should go to that website and listen to it.  At the next one below look at the web address and copy it for all your friends.  It is scary.  Good job Litpar.

      • SandyTrank says:

        @Ltpar  @askladybug In order to have angels sent to assist you, you first have to have a relationship with Jesus Christ; then the Father will do what is necessary to assist us. It’s not always angels, it;s faith in Him. Knowing He will do as He said He would do. He alone decides what kind of help we need. Sometimes he uses those who have their faith anchored in Him. George Washington was a Christian with faith in Him Who has all power; nothing is too hard for God.

        • Ltpar says:

          @SandyTrank  @askladybug
           Can’t find fault or argue against anything you said.  Problem is that the masses have no such belief system and their numbers continue to grow.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @SandyTrank  @Ltpar  @askladybug
           The only thing we can do is spread the Gospel. Many will reject but some will receive it. The only other thing is to support a ministry that is taking the Gospel that has a big platform. We can touch one heart at a time but they can with satellite touch millions and we do well to see which ministry is doing the best job with the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ and Him Crucified and get on board to help with financial support. At one time, I didn’t know how to choose and I will be held accountable for that but there are a few who still preach Jesus Christ and Him Crucified. I support such a ministry. Never underestimate prayer as well and know the Word of God so you won’t be deceived. I put everything I hear along side of the Word and if it doesn’t line up, I don’t receive it. There is so much garbage being taught and so many false ways, we must know His Word to stay in His Will and Way. We all have to be praying…we’re in trouble here folks!

        • askladybug says:

          @SandyTrank  @Ltpar You know Sandy I think you can do both.  You can worship God and you can do all you can to fight for our freedom at the same time.  One is not exclusive from the other.  I have met too many people who tell me that all we need to do it pray and everything will be alright.  I do believe that everyone should pray and pray often but praying is easy and takes very little effort.  To get involved and try and make a difference is a lot harder.  If we turn our backs on our freedom soon we won’t have any freedoms and we will wonder when we lost it.  We need to watch Obama and we need to let our Congressmen know how we feel and what we want them to vote on.  It just takes a phone call we needed or an email it is not that hard.  We just have to do it.  You can find our who your congressmen and Senators are by going online.  Or look them up in the phone book, online.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @askladybug  @Ltpar I never said we don’t do both, I don;t think anyway. Praying until you touch God and get the mind of His Spirit is not easy. Without prayer and getting the mind of the Lord, Israel lost their battles but when they heard from the Lord, they got specific direction and they won. If we don’t get the mind of the Lord first, we may spend a lot of energy getting nowhere. Sometimes the answer doesn’t come immediately and effective prayer takes time and sometimes waiting. I find it takes a lot of effort to maintain a consistent prayer life and relationship with the Lord. That is the only way I can know His Will for my life. I would much rather hear from Him before I take off on my own and get little or nothing done; it’s better to wait and hear what He wants me to do. He’s never wrong and I hope everyone is calling and writing but I would say probably not. We DO have to stand up and do something but it’s always in our best interest to get council from the Counselor first. I remember when my kids were real little and I would ask them if they would please go in another room and get something for me and they would be on the run before they heard what I wanted them to get for me! :)
          That’s the way I was when I first was saved all the time but only sometimes now. I haven’t arrived by any means my eyes are fixed on the mark…

        • askladybug says:

          @SandyTrank  @Ltpar Sandy I am sure your Heavenly Father loves you very much.  Remember when I said, “God will not do for us what he has asked us to do for each other?”  I am an author and I write children’s books for 8-young adults.  I write about Zizz who love God.  I was tired of my grandkids reading books that were really dark. In the story Zarina must come up with a solution to a horrible problem.  She spend day and night on her knees asking God what she should do to solve her problem.  Finally, when she gets no answer she goes to her wise father.  She wants to know why God did not answer her prayers.  She told her dad that her cause was just.  She was fighting for the freedom of the Nymphs.  She wanted to know why God didn’t want to help the Nymphs.  Her father had to tell her she had gone about it the wrong way.  He told her that first she must think of a solution to the problem.  She can ask God for strength and wisdom and to do her best, but what exactly to do must be her own decision.  Then Zarina said, “But how will I know if the solution I come up with is the right one?” 
          “Then said her dad is when you take that to the Lord and ask him if that is a good solution.”  There is a saying that when something is a good solution you will get a burning in your bosom and if it is a wrong answer you will get a stuper of thought.  So I would suggest you come up with a way to fight for our freedom and then ask the Lord if that is the way to help.  Once you have done your part then God will do his part.  This is the way our church teaches us.  Now you do not have to do it my way.  It is just a suggestion.  Too many people say to God, “What should i do?”  Remember God gives feelings, not words.  If you need word for word direction you had better ask for an angel to come down and administer under you.  You have to ponder things in your heart first. I am sure whatever you decide to do it will be a positive step in the right direction.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @askladybug  @Ltpar I understand we are coming from two different directions. I am a Bible believing Christian and that means I am guided by the Word of God in all things; as He desires that all His children be as He knows best in all circumstances. This doesn’t mean I ask Him what to wear everyday or other foolishness but in the things of life, He has all the answers. The Scriptures say “Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not to thy own understanding and He shall direct thy path.” See, I trust in Him for all things and I cannot go back to my old ways because they were unfruitful. I know the Lord desires we have peace on the earth and one day we will have it but it will be in the Lords time. He has said in His Word the things that would fall upon an ungodly world and we cannot change that but with prayer we can prolong the time and that is to preach the Gospel to all people because “He is not wiling that any should perish.” prayer has to be in His Will and I believe it is His Will to grant us peace in America but it is He who will do it thru us, it’s not in our own strength but His. Remember Israel and how He defended them but they always had to look to Him first and then the victory. I know you don’t understand or believe the way I do but with over 600 “religions” in the world, I find a safe place in His Word because He is God and cannot lie. Christianity is not a “religion” but a living relationship with the Father through the Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible teaches we must first repent and submit to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sin and the cleansing for all unrighteousness and then through Him, we have access to the Father and Christ being the Door, there is no other way. The wisdom of man is worldly and unsure but the Wisdom of God is pure and right.  That is why I seek Him first and that;s not going to change in me. We all have to make that decision for there will be a Rapture of those belonging to Christ very soon and woe to those left behind. God made the Gospel simple so all could come in from the richest to the poorest, from the educated to the uneducated. He said all and He meant ALL. Jesus died for every person that has ever lived on this earth and those yet to be born but He is the Way the Truth and the Life and no man comes to the Father but by Him. I believe that and pray all people will receive Him but I know many won’t and that saddens me but we all have free will to choose. I still love you “askladybug” whether we agree or not.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @askladybug  @Ltpar I forgot to include “acknowledge Him in all thy ways” and He shall direct Thy path.

        • askladybug says:

          @SandyTrank  @Ltpar I too believe in the Bible.  I feel you misunderstood me, but that’s ok.  You are perfectly happy doing it your way and so you should.  I am sure you make your Heavenly Father pleased.

        • Ltpar says:

          @askladybug  @SandyTrank
           I can’t disagree with anything either of you have to say.  By the nature of my life and profession I come at it from a different perspective and am not a “turn the other cheek” kind of guy. That however, does not impact my spirituality which I choose to pursue rather than organized religion.   I do not feel the need for an intermediary (pastor, priest, rabbi) between me and God.  While that may sound a bit vain to some, it is not and I acknowledge every single day that I serve at the pleasure of God.  When the worst case scenario arrives if I am still around,  many others like myself will be fighting the forces of evil with everything we have.  I am confident that if such a battle happens, God will be tere in some manner to guide and direct our actions.  Like I said, “different folks, different strokes” but all with the same objective.  May God bless America and the men and women who protect her?

        • VeeDub says:

          Thank you.  I feel exactly the same way.  The Bible tells us our body is a temple.  Therefore, no matter where I am, no matter what I’m doing, I am in Church.
          Jesus said “No one comes to the Father except through me.”  In my opinion, that most certainly means that I don’t need anyone here on Earth to help me get to Heaven. 
           I believe that also means some can sit in Church every time the doors open and still not make it to Heaven.  It’s not  about making appearances in an organized Church, it’s about how we live our lives and believe in Him.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @VeeDub  @Ltpar The Apostle Paul said often “in Christ” and he meant that as a criteria for being saved. He also said to “to let a man so examine himself to see if he be in the Faith” so it’s clear to me we can leave it as well cannot be pew warmers only and go to Heaven. We must defend America with all we have, there is a lot to lose.

        • DeaconG says:

          @askladybug  @SandyTrank  @Ltpar People need to remember that God helps those that help themselves. Go to God in Thanksgiving and Prayer knowing He is with us. But be ready to help your selves and those who can not make it on their own. Prayer alone is not going to save this country, we are, with God’s help. Do you think the Jews were not praying constantly in Germany when millions died? They believed the Lie that they would be treated well and just relocated.  Of course there will be a post saying God abandoned the jews because they killed his son, That is Wrong.
          Jesus Christ was born and died for ALL Men.  Peace Be With You All.

        • SandyTrank says:

          @DeaconG  @askladybug  @SandyTrank  @Ltpar
           God is not willing that any should perish and He alone knows why all those Jews were murdered. As far as killing Jesus, we ALL: did with our sin. It was our sin that nailed Him to the Cross; Jew and Gentile alike Some Jews accepted Christ and some didn’t. The wages of sin is death but only God knows about each individual. We have no way to know one’s heart, only the fruit of their actions. I have heard the old saying “God helps those that help themselves.” It doesn’t exactly hold to Scripture. We who know Him as Saviour do know He is with us but that doesn’t mean He blesses all we do because that would be to say He blesses or condones our sin and He doesn’t. We don’t always do right but prayer and guideance is a must in these troublesome times. We can’t do it without His help; If God be for us, who can stand against us? Nobody, not obama, not anyone. We want to know He is with us, not just assume He is.

  208. Richard Vandervort says:

    When your ready to wake up to the simple fact that today we’re fighting a war between the people and a corrupted government maybe you’ll realize this is a battle that our children will look back on to see how you reacted to your own endeavor.
    We ask our children in America to fight for freedom and don’t think twice to sending them off to foreign lands put their lives on the line for this fight, Can we not insure that they have freedom at home to return home to.

    • Ltpar says:

      @Richard Vandervort
       Valid point, however remember that over 50% of the people in this country are in the same boat as  the courrupt government.  If the worst case scenario appears in America, we will be asking our children to fight for freedom right here at hime.  It won’t be a pretty picture regardless of whihc side you are on.

  209. Richard Vandervort says:

    When we submit to the powers of a totalitarian government you surrender your very right to freedom.
    I once believed in what my country stood for in the eye’s of the world and proudly served in our military because of belief.
    The likes of a liberal gay Muslim Communist leading our country forcing his tyrannous ways of life along with the willing complaisance population looking for their handouts now brings tears to my eye’s just thinking about what we have become.
    The words American Pride once meant something throughout the world and this is the one thing we must restore to America.
    An unarmed America is a weak America open and vulnerable to any suppressant forms of government and we must never let this happen.

    • askladybug says:

      @Richard Vandervort I agree.  Good job Richard.  I have to apologize to everyone for my long windedness.  I am an author and love writing.  I get up to a computer and my love of writing takes over.

  210. VeeDub says:

    Here we see another glaring example of how the left sees facts and truth.
    The truth is what they say it is, at that moment, using the “facts” that fit their agenda, even if they have to make up those “facts”, as they speak.
    But there will be millions of ignorant liberal/socialist/progressive/democrats who will, once again, take the gospel (according to Bill) and believe it, without ever doing any research on their own.
    “Half of all mass killings in the United States have occurred since the assault  weapons ban expired in 2005, half of all of them in the history of the country.”
    Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bill-clintons-over-the-top-fact-on-mass-shootings/2013/01/10/7040d61e-5b7a-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_blog.html

  211. askladybug says:

    I don’t think that congress is just full of actors.  I think a better description is a herd of sheep.  No one wants to stand out.  No one wants to make waves.  Before they go to Capital Hill they are all full of what they will do and then they get up there and become sheep.  There is also party line nonsense. No one wants to go against anyone from their own party.  Again, sheep.  I think sending young men to Capital Hill is worthless.  You need to be very self assured if you are going to stand up for what’s right even if you are standing alone.  Young men and women just don’t have that self assurance yet.  I also would prefer to send an owner of a large company to Capital Hill.  They are used to throwing their weight around and used to people taking orders from them.  So if we want those on Capital Hill to vote with Republican values then we had better send some mature Republicans.  We need those with new ideas too.  No one has any ideas.  Everyone is standing around waiting for someone to come up with a good idea and the only ones coming up with any ideas are the Democrats.  We need some original thinkers.

  212. MrLucky says:

    Hitler didn’t have the K G B .  Hitler had the Gestapo or Shut Stoffen Secret Service! I blame the American public for allowing the Blacks, Cubans, Mexicans and everything else that have slithered across the borders! Especially the Whites and Christens the Christens has the strongest organization in this country and the world! They now have the least backbone! The Whites are a bunch of cowards and gutless wonders not to mention many other things! Now just open your eyes, ears and maybe your brains if you have any and you should see where I’m coming from! You cowards need to get off your self centered selves and do what ever you have to do! Your children and grandchildren are a bunch of gutless wonders tooooo! Now that’s all I want to communicate with you!!!

    • SandyTrank says:

      @MrLucky What planet are YOU from??? Your entire statement is totally wrong and is not worthy of debate.

    • Ltpar says:

       Spoken like a true White Supremacist who likely wears a hood when you dream?  It is clear from your illiterate comments that you are a disciple of Adolph and would like to round up all the Non-Aryans in America and send them to the ovens once again.  While you speak of “Christens,” you can’t even spell the word right, much less demonstrate the tenets of the Ten Commandments on which the faith was founded.  I am not sure exactly who is worse here; the “in the closet,” Marxist oriented President we currently have, or you as an “out of the closet,” Fascist.  As for myself give me “neither of the above.”  Bottom line Mr. Lucky is crawl back into your dark hole and dream about burning a few crosses and relive the old days with the KKK was feared.  Those days will never return.

  213. askladybug says:

    freshwind   I hear what you are saying and I believe it but no one else will.  The CFR is the modern face of the Illuminati. Every President but Reagan was a member of the Illuminati.  And Mitt Romney was not a member of the Illuminati.  Reagan was not supposed to win, Bush was.  Bush was President of the CFR or Council of Foreign Relations.  Reagan called him on it during a debate.  The next thing anyone knew he had resigned as President of CFR.  They had a meeting and didn’t know whether they wanted to back Reagan or not.  They didn’t know whether or not Reagan would play ball with them.  He over heard them, as the story goes, and said “Yes I can play ball.”  They decided to take the chance and let him run and for Bush to be the vice President.  After he won all bets were off he told them all to go to hell.  He told Russia to go to hell.  Before we were always making nice with them.  He said to the American people “We don’t need to be friends with Russia.  What can they do for us?”  I remember I was there and I heard him say it.  I was proud to be an American that day.  Then the President was shot and almost died.  After that he was never the same.  All of a sudden Gorbachov was in the white house for dinner.  It is said that the CFR, which meant to kill him told him next time they wouldn’t miss.  Now these are just stories I was told by someone who should have known, but still I have no proof.  The first President to be a CFR puppet was Woodrow Wilson.  The goal of the CFR is World Order.  Or world domination.  Why?  There are rich men in the world who are not on the Forbes list.  Why not?  Because they are richer than all of them.  What happens when you have so much money you couldn’t possibly spent it in ten lifetimes?  Then you seek power of course.  But not just to be king or dictator.  No you want to control the money and control those who handle the money.  The CFR is made up of the richest men in the world and they pull all the strings.  CFR members control all the media and they have Presidents in all the colleges.  Barbara Walters is a member of the CFR.  Tom Brokaw is a member of CFR.  Shirley Temple Black is a member of CFR or used to be.  Walter Cronkite was a member of CFR.  I used to have a list of everyone in the US that were members of the CFR.  You see this started a long time ago and no one knew.  We didn’t have computers and the internet.  We had only word of mouth.  Now we can instantly get the word out, so now there is no excuse. 
    Walmart no longer sells bullets.  Well they do but have said they will not order any more.  It is thought the government got to them.  You see you don’t have to ban guns if you do away with the supply of bullets.  Also it may be time to take your kids out of school and home teach them.  Barack has a new school plan.  Part of the plan is to not focus so much on content but on feelings.  Sure dumb down America so they are too stupid to know what is going on.  I think we need to stick to the three basics.  Reading, writing and arithmatic.  In the high school where I live they have jewelry making and cake decorating.  The cake decorating has taken the place of home economics.  Why learn to cook when all you have to do is buy a TV dinner and put it in the micro wave.  They want to teach your children about Mohamed.  Now they are not allowed to mention God but Allah is a different story.  You need to home school your children.  As of Oct 2012 they now have to take sex education class, starting in grade school.  They will be taught all about homosexual love and how it is done.  There will even be pictures showing men and boys together and telling them it is perfectly natural.  Now if that is what you want for your child then leave them in school.  Germany allowed Hitler to take over the schools and we know how that turned out.  I do not want my grandkids brain washed against God the Father and his son Jesus Christ.  But I would never dream of telling you what to do with your children.  That is for you to decide.

  214. MrLucky says:

    Been saying this for years! Politicians aren’t always doing what’s best for this country! People aren’t laughing quite so loud now!!!!

  215. braveheart 1 says:

    ALL PATRIOTS, Orly Taitz will be protesting in front of the White House on January 20th between 10:00 AM and 4:00 PM.  She and hopefully many others will be protesting again on Jan. 21st in front of the Supreme Court from 10:00 AM till ? Let’s all be there to support her. This may be our last chance for a peaceful demonstration!!!!!!!!!

  216. Boyd Sharp says:

    Freedom can be lost to an overwhelming avalanche – an invading army perhaps. Or it can be lost slowly, little bit by bit. Whether you suffer a major wound and bleed out in minutes. Or it takes longer to bleed to death. Dead is dead. Freedom lost is lost. And getting freedom back is hard. Giving tyrants a taste of control is a bottle of wine to an alcoholic. Another hit to a drug addict. One taste ain’t enough. One freedom ain’t enough. After we are disarmed how can we resist the next freedom they take?

  217. MrLucky says:

    Just keep your eyes and ears open and see how much better it will get for ya! You’re doing a good job so far! Now see how much sense that makes!

  218. icetrout says:

    Obama has the votes to pas gun bill… The RINO’s have caved… Stock up on supplies while you still can…

  219. PaulChristensen says:

    Remember that Christ drove the money changers out of the temple.  They no longer were worthy to even be near the temple they had defied it that much.

  220. PaulChristensen says:

    When JFK was president he said “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”.  My it is ludicrous how the Democratic house has changed under Obama.  Now it is how can I get the government to do more for me, how can I enslave myself to the government, how can the government rob from someone else and give to me.  Obama does not even closely follow the great Democrats from before.  How is that “change” working out for you.  Both by the happiness of the people now we are not one of the top ten happiest countries to lie in and economically we are not one of the top ten countries in the world.  Obama is such a farce.  He truly is a socialist and communist.  He listened to much to his mentor Frank Marshall Davis and now we are paying the price.

  221. DeaconG says:

    Do not believe the Lie that our Military will agree to disarm us, they will not. Do not fear that the Sheriffs will disarm us, they will not, do not believe we are out numbered, we are not. The Lie that is trying to convince you that we have no hope and must do as told by the Democrats who willfully violate the Oath they Swore to defend the Constitution is all they have. Threats that are empty and meaningless, when they alone will have to attempt to disarm us. Those Lies are all they have. The last time there was a Ban on weapons the Democrats were routed from office, by democrats and republicans that are Americans First and political parties second. The liberals are afraid of the Standing Army that is the People of these United States, they are trying to create division and fear to promote a disarmament agenda. Do not believe them and do not obey their supposed laws or executive actions and orders, they are meaningless. We The People are the Defenders of the US Constitution, it is a God given right to defend our Nation against all Enemies foreign or Domestic.  Free Men have weapons for peace, slaves do not.

    • DRLJR says:

      @DeaconG Which why Obama and his minions are trying to create their own version of the “Hitler Youth”.

      • texaselect says:

        @DRLJR  @DeaconG They can attempt anything they like. They are outnumbered and out gunned. They know it.

  222. braveheart 1 says:

    You are so right about that. I have many friends in the military who have told me they would never follow an illegal order or attempt to disarm the American people. I think it would be fair to say over half of them does not trust Barack Hussein Obama.

  223. the Truth Seeker says:

    Back from sunny Florida. Looks like there is great growth there and incredible dislike for their dopey governor. Aside from all of that;  I’ve always wondered what my conservative friends really believe in. How were they different from me? They certainly weren’t like the lunatic-fringe that “hang out” on Newsmax, the Washington Times, and sites like Godfather, Front Porch, Cowboy, Visions for Liberty, etc. Nobody could be that nuts. These folks aren’t sure we ever landed on the Moon, think Obama is a Manchurian Candidate from Kenyan, do not believe he even went to school, cite references that nobody ever saw him in class, etc. Of course, the fact that he was elected President of the Harvard Law Review in a blind contest and taught at the University of Chicago, is fiction to them. These are the so-called “real family” value folks,  mostly from the Red Neck States, whose status on mental health, incest, rape, divorce, and violence are far, far worse than the so-called Blue States. In fact, the preponderance of these crazies lives in the regions of our country which suck up more federal dollars than they contribute and ironically make up their well-chronicled moronic: “47%.” But, so what is it that these folks hate the government, are racist bigots, and have a primitive view on women and the like! They think Medicare and Social Security are commie plots, but if you interfere with them watch out. They love their AR-15’s, AK-47’s, Uzis, NASCAR, white lightning, dog fights and they swear by their Bible-Belt Elmer Gantrys.
    But, what about the “sensible” conservatives who are our every day neighbors outside of the Bible Belt? What do they stand for? In truth, they are just as obese as anyone else, they have just as many marital problems, cheat on their spouses, they drink, take drugs (Rush Limbaugh) and they are just as likely to be Wall Street thieves. They also like to carry guns, even though the chance of being killed in their own home is 27 times the chance of being shot outside. In fact, up here in the NE, the chance is in the hundreds to one. But, what of their so-called thriftiness? They have as many, or more, under water-mortgages, their credit card debt is high or higher then the average, and they get abortions when they need them, practice birth control, and would seek out stem cell research if they faced a catastrophic health problem. Most, even believe in the separation of church in state. So what are they really about, basically, Eurocentric hypocrisy, fear of the loss of power, and political impotence.
    By the way, where were these Constitutional gurus, patriots and fiscal watch dogs when Reagan tripled the National Debt, we lost 234 Marines in an unguarded billet in Beirut, Bush 43 engaged in two wars without taxes to support them, their faith-based $7 billion initiative was passed, the debt ceiling was approved scores of times by Republican Congresses and the unfunded Medicare Drug benefit was passed? In fact, as I recall it was Republican presidents who created the minimum tax threshold for low wage earners, so they could justify tax giveaways for the rich. So I ask, what are the conservative values? Is their fear of “big government” legit? Are they preservers of the culture? Are they protectors of personal freedom? Personally, I doubt that they are, there is slight evidence to support any of their claims, and their leadership acts in their own self-interest all the time.
    As a long-time student of history, political person, and writer and lecturer on mid 20th Century history, it is not a stretch to see what side both parties fall. The right-wing has opposed: the following
    The Bill of Rights
    Anti-trust laws- Sherman and Clayton Acts
    Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid
    Labor unions and their right to collectively bargain- the Wagner Act
    Wages and Hours Law
    Child Labor laws and regulation- Triangle Shirtwaist and other disasters
    The Minimum wage
    Civil Rights- Integration- anti-lynching laws
    The Security Laws of 1933, 4, and 1940, affirmative action
    Pure Food and Drug laws
    Almost all environmental regulation on clear water and air
    Women’s Rights, sexual choice
    The right of choice
    Birth control access and information
    Equal pay for equal rights
    The Establishment Clause- separation of church and state
    Gun control
    Graduated Income Tax- taxes in general
    Inheritance Taxes
    Federal housing- urban renewal
    Public education
    Aid to Great Britain before WWII
    What have they supported?
    Restrictive Immigration: Chinese Exclusion Act 1882, National Origins Immigration Act of 1924
    Property rights over individual rights
    Monopoly, trusts, Inter-locking directorships
    Unrestricted gun ownership
    Flat-taxes, sale’s taxes,
    State’s Rights
    Public funding for private schools
    Segregation, White Citizen’s Councils, the KKK
    Privatization of services
    Off shore banking shelters
    The market place cures all ills
    The Oil Depletion allowance
    Private schools
    In other words, what in hell have the right-wing ever supported that was in the public’s interest?

  224. the Truth Seeker says:

    Of course you either have a very selective memory or are too young or just an uninformed dolt. ML baseball had a ban on Blacks until 1947, the NFL had one Black player in 1950, Kenny Washington and the NBA had few Blacks for its first 10 years and had a quota on how many could be on the floor at one time. So times have changed, white young men obviously cannot cut the mustard in any of the big leagues. Whites outnumber Blacks by at least 5 to 1 and there have been between 9 and 11% of the country populated by African American since 1790’s first census. How come whites, if they are not Europeans can not make the NBA? How come with all the white Division ! players in basketball and baseball, the pros are dominated by Blacks? They seem to work harder. Now they are the coaches and the be coming the GMs. A trend?
    So the bottom line is that white trailer park trash are losing their power, their vetoes and seem to believe that their weapon is their last defense against social change!

  225. the Truth Seeker says:

    By the way all you doomsayers, gun nuts, and guardians of the Founding Father’s intents, here’s some more news: the stock market (DJIA) approaching 14,000. Remember Bush 43 when it was at 6600. California, you favorite state to hate had a huge budget surplus. The TARP monies have been paid back 93% with huge profits for the Fed and the Country. Unemployment claims this week, the lowest in five years. Chicken Little you’ll have you big toy pistols forever and the big spray guns will wait until 2014 or 16. Tough luck! By the way 4 more years and Hillary at all time popularity highs- could really be the dustbin for you yahoos.

  226. the Truth Seeker says:

    That’s an incredibly dumb assertion and juvenile at best. A vast, and I mean vast, amount of the public would ignore your remarks and 98% of the editorials and historians would disregard your clap trap on Executive Orders, Pocket vetoes, executive appointments, along with your accusations on communism. A do-nothing Congress cannot be allowed to scuttle the country just for hatred and the desire for power. They have held up appointments for months, barely hold hearings and the GOP -Teapublican House has passed 33 resolutions on repealing the Health Care law. Grow up and just remember when you collect Medicare and Social Security it is there because of the hateful Democrats. But of course, from your primitive and biased reasoning we’re all commies.

  227. the Truth Seeker says:

    Boy are you dumb- I have shoes old enough to vote! Keep on bleating – you better work hard, have more kids and change the demographics, because the times are a-changing. By the way my gainfully employed, private sector, Ivy League and pro-capitalist, betrothed, professional children are working on the next generation.

  228. the Truth Seeker says:

    I am 6′ 2″ – just back from 3 weeks in sunny Florida and weigh 199 lbs. Gained a few, but I’ll be back to fighting weight soon. Have you checked in with you medical team lately, you sound ill!

  229. the Truth Seeker says:

    Your piece is fraught with inaccurate silliness. Go to the head of the line! What tripe! Affirmative Action served its purpose, it was an important redress of grievance, but to you bigots and haters, nothing with regards to equality counts. Every group had it rough here from the WASPs, including Catholics, Jews, Irish, the new immigrants in the late 19th century and especially the Blacks who came here as SLAVES, so wise up, times are a-changing, the reality has shifted. This change came after generations of immigrants were needed here for work, low birth rates among whites and the plethora of lazy trailer park white trash that made Jerry Springer a multi-millionaire. You folks have no one to blame but yourselves. By the way, I am glad your hubby knew a Black person he didn’t want to shoot.

  230. the Truth Seeker says:

    America cannot be disarmed by EO and the 2nd Amendment is as antiquated as the 3rd Amendment. Most of you people hate the 4th and the 5th Amendments. So the 4th Amendment was changed by the Escobido and Miranda Decisions and the 5th Amendment has frustrated people for centuries. All things change except blockheads like those who haunt these specious sites.

  231. the Truth Seeker says:

    Times change, you example is one against a million. There is always been abuse and their were quotas on the Catholics and Jews to get into the Ivy League from 1905 through the early 1960s. There were bans on Blacks in Major League sports, civil service and Fortune 500 companies. Those bans morphed to quotas and then to Affirmative Action. That is being phased out and most people will have to rely on their skills. That is why the NFL, the NBA, the entertainment industry, the music business and many other capitalist institutions are dominated by Blacks and other minorities. it is isn’t reverse discrimination that has excluded the white trash and the dumb red necks, it it the lack of skill and the ability to be educated. Most red necks are good at menial jobs, raising dogs, and squirrel hunting. but, I must admit that in the cities and the suburbs we have millions of fine Republicans and even conservatives that pull their own oars, raise their families and live wonderful lives. Too bad they are so fearful of change and other folks’ rights. But, understand for sure, every Republican conservative I know, and they are many, use birth control, would get an abortion for their daughter if needed, would seek out stem cell therapy if needed, and believe in the separation of church and state. In other words, they use you dopes for two things, and two things only: low taxes and deregulation. What else is new?

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