Armed Protection For Democrats, But Not For Schoolchildren


After Jared Loughner killed six people and injured fourteen others with a gun in Arizona at the beginning of 2011, liberals demanded to know why Sarah Palin, on whose shoulders they placed the blame for the massacre, would not weigh in on the issue. Her silence was outrageous.

Then something like a week later Palin did voice her opinion on the matter, and those very same outraged Democrats became outraged again. “Why is she sticking her nose in the matter,” they demanded.

Now, in the aftermath of this recent tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, liberals summoned their outrage that the National Rifle Association was cowering in silence rather than joining liberals in their fantasy world in which sentient guns have malice in their hearts and murder on their agenda.

Yesterday the Trinity Episcopal Church of Newtown tolled its bell 26 times, one for each victim of Adam Lanza’s dementia.

A little over an hour later, the NRA’s executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre, gave a press conference in which he suggested having armed police officers at every school. “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” he said.

The NRA has even offered to train school security officers and develop and develop security plans–for free.

But liberals, never content to let their outrage be mollified, went from being outraged over the NRA’s silence to being outraged over the NRA’s “poorly timed” statement. The NRA has been Palin’d.

There is also criticism over the NRA’s proposal, of course, and substantial criticisms are fair. But they go something like this: “Put cops in every school? Are you insane?”

Well, what is more insane: to ask gun owners to turn in their guns to the government, as Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee did, and expect not only that good people will comply, but that people intent on killing will comply (“Aw, gee, I really wanted to shoot up that mall today, but the government’s asking me to turn in my gun, so nevermind”); to expect the government to outright confiscate guns, as MSNBC’s Ed Schultz suggested; or to have trained professionals at the entrances of schools?

Better question: Why do Democratic politicians, who receive the taxpayer-funded protection of armed security, want to keep women and children from being protected by armed security?







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  • protectliberty

    The school had a call the police and wait for rescue policy —- WAITING for the police takes too long.
     
    These poor children IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL —- had little to NO defense. 
     
    LETS face it — being unarmed during a crisis is like being a SITTING duck at a carnival shooting gallery.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    If some people want to be willing victims, then so be it.
    I believe that call for help and wait and hope that criminals will be willing to wait — is absurd.
     
    SCHOOLS SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF METHOD TO DEFEND THE STAFF AND CHILDREN
    DURING A CRISIS.
     
    THE CALL THE POLICE AND WAIT FOR HELP TO ARRIVE
    IS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT – A BAD IDEA
     
    I WOULD THINK MORE PEOPLE WOULD WANT THEIR KIDS TO 
    HAVE SOME PROTECTION
     
    THE UNARMED PRINCIPLE WALKED OUT TO CONFRONT
    A MENTALLY IMBALANCED MAN 
    ON A RAMPAGE
     
    LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.
     
    =====> SCHOOLS NEED A BETTER PROTECTION POLICY FOR STUDENTS

    • evervigilant

      @protectliberty You are right. Our school children must be protected. But “Armed police officers in every school” is a fundamentally bad recommendation. It completely sidesteps the real problem, and creates an even worse problem – trying to mask the original one.
       
      The problem at hand is the artificial creation (by our public servants) of free shooting-galleries – for the exclusive benefit of heavily armed homicidal lunatics and criminals. The NRA’s recommendation fails to address the problem.
       
      Moreover, their recommendation perpetuates the fallacy that the police can protect everyone – which has been proven (by countless demonstrations) to be absolutely false. And since Columbine proved that “and armed policeman” at the school, is completely inadequate, such an errant approach would necessarily proliferate – without limit – to “every classroom”, and “every room” in every theater, mall, church – of every one of the Millions of “free shooting galleries” that have been wrongfully created throughout the country. They are advocating a full-fledged police-state – which will still fail to solve the original problem!
       
      The ONLY viable solution is to rely on trained (and vetted) volunteer parents – armed of course. The NRA will provide the training, and the local Sheriff will do the vetting. Yes, there will still be deadly incidents, because there’s NO such thing as a perfect solution. However, the frequency and severity will be greatly diminished.

      • windsailor

        @evervigilant  @protectliberty The NRA position exactly fits the CURRENT situation. There are more crazies out there who will try to duplicate the carnage while the subject is heated. We need defenses NOW, and long term solutions down the road when they can be properly thought out.

        • edodaniel

          @evervigilant  @protectliberty Agreed!  Gun Free School Zones should be eliminated and school personnel carry allowed but in the interim having an armed guard available and ready at the school is a step in the right direction.  I would personally prefer to see the guard NOT in uniform as a uniform could easily designate him or her as the first target.

    • dave

      @protectliberty Two things come to mind.Create safe rooms in the schools or even reinforcing the closets.Second if the 2 teachers that ran to the gunman unarmed had mace,granted they still may have been shot but could have slowed him down enough for the next person to disarm him…

      • Estebancafe

        It is likely that the crazy would execute those who did not make it into your safe room in time, until those inside evenually opened the door to face their fate.
         
        It’s a war out there–look at it that way–do you want your soldiers unarmed ?  Of course not, so why are you not arming your teachers. Israel understands this–their school killers are met with firepower, not with harsh words and “continue to die until we get there” messages of hope and change.

      • matagordabill

        @protectliberty Taking a container of mace or pepper spray to a gun fight is like taking a knife to a gun fight.  The gun wielder can kill you before you get within range.   BTW, if you do happen to mace or pepper spray the perp, as soon as he is arrested, he can file a lawsuit against you for violating his rights.  In most liberal courts he would win.

    • istamericanpatriot

      @protectliberty
       Why is it that none of you have mentioned how he got in to that school. The doors were all locked so were the windows. He broke a window to get in. All windows on the first and second floor should have heavy mesh on the inside and locked from the inside. So in the case of an emergency, like a fire people could get out.
      DGJ

  • Evermyrtle

    The liberals intention it to take complete contro of the USA and turn us int a anti-GOD heathen nation. The White House is a anti-GOD, anti-JESUS CHRIST homosexuat baby and senior killing, denof iniquity. Does anybody know the number of babies tjat have bee murdered before they were born.? Have they managed to kill the ban on partial birth aborton?

  • mwood

    the democrats do lile the NRA ideas because it would eliminate democrat voters

  • mwood

    sorry i left out the word   not   , having a bad day

  • Abob

    Perhaps to test their theory, BO, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid shuld take a trip (unarmed, of course) to Bengahzi and demand that the Taliban turn in their guns so the world would be a better place. In fact, they could bring along Barney Frank – I heard the Taliban loves homosexuals.
    I’m just guessing, but perhaps if they did that, we would no longer have a democratic problem (or a little less of one anyway).

    • SheilaAnn

      @Abob Great Post…very sensible…They should turn in their guns.

  • texanna

    I don’t understand why Palin or the NRA would even bother to respond to the ignorant, crazy liberals.  Firearms owners need to contact their elected reps and senators and tell them exactly what they need to do…letting them know that gun owners will NEVER turn over their guns to any government!

    • NavyJR

      @texanna It’s a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation; no matter what they did would be “wrong” but at least they got their side out for people to hear!

  • DrEvil

    Politicians in general: “Do what I say, not what I do”.

  • ArtSchefler

    Diane Feinstein of California has a concealed carry permit.  Is she going to turn in her gun?  You bet your sweet ass she isn’t. Neither is Obama going to disarm his secret service detail.  The rest of us should just cower and cover our heads.

    • JohninVirginia

      I liked the tongue-in-cheek British comment to Obama when the U.S. put up signs in the southwest labeling areas dangerous for citizens to visit, “If that solves problems, couldn’t you save money by carrying a sign saying, “don’t shoot me, I’m the President” instead of hiring armed secret service agents?”  That would work just as well as putting up signs at schools saying “Gun Free Zone” which libs seem to trust to protect the children and teachers.

    • tazz89103

      @ @ArtSchefler we all know those answers, thats why she is such a hypocrite, and they are better than us, dont forget that

    • HowardPettyjohn

      @ArtSchefler  Feinstein and Obama should make it known throughout the world that being in their presence is being in a Gun Free  Zone so you can feel safe.  While they are making that known maybe they should pay their income taxes too.

  • FlagMan

    When seconds count, police are only  minutes away

    • tazz89103

      @ @FlagMan  lol Yes that is true

  • VictorBarney

    Comments below are on target! REMEMBER: An ISLAMIC/MARXIST WAR IN “CALIPHATE” HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED PUBLICALLY DECLARED TO DESTROY U.S AND MOSTLY ONLY BECAUSE WE’RE AN “ANGLO-SAXON” COUNTRY AND AN ENEMY OF SATAN! Did I mention, Esau(Islam) too?  Just saying what’s written…

  • Glennpill

    I think its high time we devide the country in to two parts and let te liberals live in their own broke lawless corrupt goverment over paid education system and let the liberal’s and thier carpet bagger progressive politicians fend for them selves. We will also need a fence to keep them out of Conservative America and watch them try to feed and supply them selves with fuel to run their side.

    • JOHN14

      @Glennpill
       So do I, North & South, Liberals dems and progressive reps in the North and Conservatives in the south. That would also stop all the smart arse snow birds coming to Florida and clogging up our roads, stores and restaurants. Oh and the population of Florida would drop 2/3s and that would be wonderful.

    • tazz89103

      @ @Glennpill  might be the way to go, but they wont let anyone break away without a fight. there is a way of doing it legally, but this gov, wont let that happen that easy… They need people to control and tell how to live there lives ….

    • Robert Anderson Sr

      @Glennpill You could put them in Cook County(Chicago)  Thats where the most are besides Calif. !

    • Redd1958

      @Glennpill Yea—That’s just Great!! Mexicans climbing the fences getting in to the South of us and Liberal Idiots Climbing over from the North!!!

  • FlagMan

    Gun control is a steady hand and being able to hit your target

    • IEatLibtardsForBreakfast

      @FlagMan I hope FlagMan lives in my state!

      • FlagMan

        @IEatLibtardsForBreakfast
         The Republic of Texas

        • texanna

          @FlagMan  @IEatLibtardsForBreakfast
           I knew it!

    • smokinscope

      @FlagMan
       unlike a NY cop on a busy street!

    • NavyJR

      @FlagMan Semper Fi, Marine; it sure is; and that kind always works properly!

  • HowardPettyjohn

    There is no comparison between the two.  Kids in schools are killed by persons that are insane and have nothing against the kids.  Democrats have not been killed because they are supporting the killers.

    • NavyJR

      @HowardPettyjohn More like they’re killed by “Manchurian candidates” planted in our midst to LOOK like insane nuts killing the innocent!  This is all a very well orchestrated attack on the US!

    • tazz89103

      @@HowardPettyjohn Darn your smart, finally someone knows whats going on,

  • http://drdilip.com/ DilipAbayasekara

    Excellent post. It is consistent with the fact that Israeli schoolchildren are safer than school children in the USA. Why? In Israeli schools, there are “good guys with guns.”

    • FlagMan

      @DilipAbayasekara
       Semper Fi

    • skai

      @DilipAbayasekara
       ” ….It is consistent with the fact that Israeli school children are safer than school children in the USA,Why? In Israeli schools ,there are ”good guys with guns” You are right. And once some one said ” if Arabs put the arms down there will be peace in Middle East, and If Israel puts down Arms ,there will be NO Israel.

  • Robert Anderson Sr

    It had already been done by the time Police arrived even though the call went in right away!  It is well advertised that schools are Gun FREE zones so why wouldn’t they go there  to kill knowing there is NO worry ?
    IF that Principle or someone in the office had been armed or access to a weapon the event would have ended there!

  • harryh44

    We don’t count!!!  They need protection for real with all the crap they are pulling.

  • har82

    Frankly , I would love to see the communists answer that last sentence and question.  Would love ,, to hear a coherent ,, logical ,, and reasonable ,,,  response to that one lol.
    Of course, there is nothing ,,, coherent , logical ,, or responsible ,,, about any ,,, commy democraps.

    • NavyJR

      @har82 See Nazi Germany, Stalinist USSR, Maoist China, etc for the answer!  The reason is exactly the same!

  • DavidPeacock

    bigots;; lib/lefties are the ones who should HAVE NO PROTECTION.

    • T_in_Tampa

      the only protection they EVER want is a condom – and that’s because they’re free – just ask Sandra the Fluck.

  • Russian55

    I don’t think we need police in every school.  This makes it appear as if our children are in a constant state of danger.
     
    The danger faced by schoolchildren HAS NOT CHANGED because one lone mental case did something horrific.  Putting guards on the school will merely frighten children into thinking they are in danger.
     
    The notions of more police or banning guns and such are all “knee jerk:” reactions.  We need to calm down.

    • T_in_Tampa

      here’s another possiblity – instead of, as you posit, that the children will be in fear maybe, instead, and I offer, even more likely – they will see the uniformed officers as the heros they are!  Now there’s a crazy idea – having children seeing police officers and security officers as examples of what’s god and right.  Why do you believe they will automatically go to the notion that they are in danger?  I’ll answer my own question – because that is your mindset – and you are “projecting” that onto the children.  STOP!

    • HenryMiller1

      @Russian55 There was an armed cop at my kids’ elementary school, “Officer Parker,” as he was known to the kids.  A big, friendly, guy who just happened to carry a Glock.  Parker didn’t scare anyone–believe me, the kids were far more frightened of the principal and one of the vice principals.  If alleviating fear is your criterion, the thing to do would be to tell the principal and that vice principal.

    • edodaniel

      @Russian55 You are correct that “the danger has not changed” but you are avoiding the FACT that there are other mental cases out there and some of them no doubt are considering their own copycat act as their moment of “fame” because of the day after day media coverage.
       
      You say that “Putting guards on the school will merely frighten children into thinking they are in danger.” but many of us are of the opinion that putting guards on the school will assure children that they are being protected and watched out for.  (Do you feel frightened when you see police or security guards in banks, malls and parking lots?
       
      Since the Supreme Court has affirmed that the right to bear arms is an individual right removing the Gun Free Zone status of schools and allowing school personnel to carry personal firearms to protect themselves and their charges is the best solution.  There is no doubt in my mind that those Sandy Hook teachers who died protecting or trying to protect the children would have given ANYTHING to have been armed and able to have put an end to the shooter.

      • tazz89103

        @  @edodaniel  @Russian55  true, Plus there  should of been guards in schools after the Columbine shooting

    • smokinscope

      @Russian55
       I agree.  And then we need to authorize teachers to train and carry concealed.  not knowing who has a gun is an effective deterent to the guy looking for a soft target.

      • tazz89103

        @@smokinscope  @Russian55  very good thats very good, Now tell every one tell your senators where you live, call them ,e-mail them. but tell them make a document ,And have people sign it, and send it in. thats how we get our voices heard..

    • evervigilant

      Russian,
      I agree with you. Putting “an armed police officer” in every school – soon followed by every room of every school, and every church, mall, and movie theater – only serves to propagate a police-state. The problem should be addressed locally by those affected – as they deem appropriate for their situation. Trained, armed, volunteer parents is the only viable solution.

    • NavyJR

      @Russian55 Agreed; besides that’s a poor use of police in the first place.  Better to train and arm the people already THERE; teachers, principals, TAs or whomever is willing and can qualify, then KEEP weapons accessible but secure in the schools at all times!

    • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

      @Russian55 The problem is with o in the w/h our children are in a constant state of danger. Especially when o is behind this. Just look at the pattern. Under no other President has this many mass shootings happen. Not all of them put together has toppled mr o’s term of 4 years.

  • NavyVet

    Our “Lexington” approaches swiftly – will we show the same fortitude as did our forefathers?

    • PatAlexander

      @NavyVet
      Of course we will show up for “our’ Lexington!  America always passive and enduring resistance of calm! We are here by the tens of millions and that is why this goverment continues to divide and tear America down! We got it and they want it! So for they haven’t been able to get it. There is a lot to be said about “our” American’s and especially when defense becomes offense!

  • SimonRedwine

    Democrats would like nothing more than to see another school shot up this week.,   Harsh?  Yep- Big time!   True?  Sadly yes- They would exploit it in a heartbeat.  Where do these disaffects that shoot up malls, campuses, workplaces come from?  Liberal policies and messages about  the despair of living in an evil society like America.  Propaganda, evil, Democrat!
      It’s HOW we got here, before WHAT we got here,

    • Patriot_765

      @SimonRedwine

    • Patriot_765

      @SimonRedwine

    • Patriot_765

      @SimonRedwine Our federal government has been purchasing ammunition for the last six months they have now stockpiled over 1 billion rounds for the coming troubles tell me this hasn’t been planned for sometime now…

    • tazz89103

      @@SimonRedwine  boy you are so right,,,

  • char51

    look the socialist, wonts to destroy this county, our way of life is being screwed to the wall. we cant celbreat christam it might offen some one we cant used the name of god in our schools, we cant choose what to eat, nor drink because the goverment knows whats good for us. socialish protest wall street we have some of the richest politial people in office. obama is rich, says can aford to pay more in taxs then why dont he, he hides his money as well as the next guy(RICH) he picks winner and losser in business, he lets people die  in the f/f and in benz. he reather give birthconrol, then to defin live . hed even let his grandmother not have a hip transplant, because of age. ok now look, he does like old people., childern and all the other things. you tell me do, you think hed pertect this county, or hand it over to china, iran iraq. or someother place like that. please keep your guns its the only thing going to keep this county safe, think about what was said, your life may well depend on it.

  • ssh49tn

    Typical liberal hypocrisy!

  • madashellnow
    • http://aol.com jean1000

      @madashellnowThanks for the reminder.  This should be pointed out to the gun control advocates who are very vocal on all the websites bashing everyone not as liberal as they.

    • http://aol.com/ davidtriplek

      @madashellnowwhich looks like to me that was the plan of all from the begining? I think th NRA may be in bed with dems on this idea. But the NRA never said “COPS” in the schools he said armed guards. Cops in the schools would be a first step to a police state.

  • Rose Palmer

    I am getting a permit & a gun to keep in my home to protect my family & myself. If I don’t, who will? Since this president has been in office I have not felt safe in my country, out shopping, in my car & even my home .Never thought I would see thjis day in America. Thanks Mr. President.

    • Estebancafe

      Correct sir: when seconds count the cops are only minutes away.

  • smokinscope

    I agree.  And then we need to authorize those teachers that wish to become “guardians” to carry concealed and give them the necessary training…

  • Estebancafe

    Why is the first thing your American press and government seek is to take away the guns of those who did not commit the crime ? How does it help to leave American citizens unprotected ?
     
    You wonderful first responders were there within minutes, but the carnage was already over. The principal should have been armed, the secretary also–as well as some of the teachers. Concealed Carry is the order of the day. Americans have 300 million guns in circulation–there is NO way to change that. It is time that they stopped thinking that everyone is going to turn in their guns and take proactive measures to protect your young ones.

    • ANTICRIME

      @Estebancafe
       SIMPLE ANSWER:  They have been infiltrated at their controlling levels by Commie-Liberals thus “USE” any and all tragedies involving firearms in the death of innocents by criminals to BS the gullible masses against firearm ownership in America!  They rarely, if ever, say anything about  news of people having defended themselves from imminent death by a criminal through the use of a legally owned firearm!
      Bottom Line: THIS is the guideline they follow:
      “IN ORDER TO OVERTHROW A NATION ITS PEOPLE MUST FIRST BE DISARMED” ~ Karl Marx!

    • tazz89103

      @ @Estebancafe it’s not about protecting people, It’s all about gun control or should I say people control. Obama said before he was president on 60 min’s there are 2 things he feels strong about if he becomes the next president 1-disarm  the country, 2 change our National Anthem .
      I saw him say it, And he also admitted at that time where he was from, Its also in a school record about him being from Kenya , he never said it was not true until he ran for president ……..

  • ProudNRAMember

    The NRA makes a good point about armed security. Some schools already use security staff and have done so for many years. I’ve never heard of any gun violence at those schools.
     
    The problem with the NRA’s press conference was that Wayne is not a very good presenter. He obviously did more reading, lacked energy, seemed timid, does not exude confidence, etc.. The NRA needs to be more visible and hire a great public speaker/presenter to represent our (I’m a member) position.

    • PatAlexander

      @ProudNRAMember
       Sir, sounds like you just might be the man for the job! Cheers!

    • tazz89103

      @ proudNRAMenber you may be right, But we all need to stick together and help with the voice, really you have to make your voice heard all the way to D.C. or we get no place, you have to call, e-mail the people in your state in the government or we loose. That I know.

  • JoeZimmerman

    @JoeZimmerman   Dumbocrats    want  to have  armed  guards to protect  them   but  not  the  rest  of  us  ,,, thats  OK  , I  will take  care  of  me  and mine   I  don’t  need  the  government   ,,,,,

    • tazz89103

      @joezimmerman you said it man. but every one does have to stick together when things get real bad, And they will..

      • JoeZimmerman

        @tazz89103  @joezimmerman
         AM EN

      • RobertJones1

        @tazz89103  @joezimmerman I have my guns and ammo and I will gladly join my fellow countrymen.

  • Rose Palmer

    I am getting a permit & buying a gun for my home to protect my family, my home & myself. I have not felt safe since since the present administration has been in office. As an American citizen, I have that right & am using it. I have absolutely no doubt or faith, this administration will NOT help anyone but themselves.

    • tazz89103

      @ rose palmer good job, yes you need to do that every one does, but they want to stop that so they can rule without worrying people fighting  back. thats what it’s all about, Look at WWII germany they did that to every country they took over, even there own. It is not rocket science.

    • RobertJones1

      @Rose Palmer They sure as hell are not going to protect us. They did not protect the people in Bengazi, they made no effort to help the marine vet who was wrongly imprisoned in Mexico. They have sent guns to the cartel in Mexico. They have sent weapons and fighter planes to the muslems in Syria. They have sent them millions of dollars. They have no desire to help any one in this country. All they want is to control us. I for one will not be controlled. I will die fighting and I will take a few with me.

    • Russian55

      @Rose Palmer I find it objectionable that anyone should need a “permit” to exercise their Rights under the 2nd Amendment.
       
      Should the government require a “permit” for you to speak freely?

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    PRESIDENT OBAMA: WHAT IS THE PENALTY UNDER ARTICLE 99 IN THE UCMJ FOR COWARDICE IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY?
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  • nvrpc

    Gun control has absolutely nothing to do with crime control, but has everything to do with people control. It’s an absolute path to Socialism, slavery, taxation without representation and assured distribution of your wealth to ensure all those who do nothing, obtain everything they need at your expense – Ervin See – NRA Life Member – Pro-Gun American.
     
    The Bottom-line on Gun Control
     
    The debate over gun control, for or against the private ownership of firearms can go on and on, but it boils down to this: When the government of the United States bans the possession and use of all privately owned firearms and proceeds to confiscate them; there are those who will give in to oppression submissively, and there are those who will resist until they are killed by the government.
     
    When these people are killed, they will be labeled as evil outlaws, but in reality they will be the last true defenders of freedom and civil rights. Those that remain; the national and state police forces, the unarmed peasants, and the true evil outlaws with firearms, will come to believe that only the dead have found the true peace that they all foolishly believed would come after this act of oppression.

    • tazz89103

      @nvrpc you said it,,,,, I always knew they really didnt care about these kids, just there opportunity that comes with it…… thats all they care about.  SAD

    • big wyo

      @nvrpc

  • tazz89103

    there are many schools around the country that have armed protection , Just not in the high crime states. The far left leb’s states, we all know what those are….. dont we.

  • timcogswell

    One solution is to develop an advanced firearms training program specifically designed for educators and citizens working within the school environment. A certification would be appropriate and required. This would involve extensive classroom training with legal, tactical strategy, prevention, behavioral science and a lot of range time. These people would not have LEO powers, but might well be better trained than many who do.
     
    Or we could just remove firearms from honest lawful citizens and install more “Gun Free Zone” signs.

    • tazz89103

      @timcogswell no way man, that makes to much sense

    • evervigilant

      @timcogswell I choose option 1. The misnamed “gun-free zones” have proven to be an absolute disaster.

      • timcogswell

        Ya think!  Tell that to the Libs; they will find some silly argument.  They aren’t known for being the brightest bulbs on the tree.

  • popham

    The hypocrisies and absurd statements of the liberal left on the topics of “gun control” and alterations
    to the 2nd Amendment is becoming very, very tiresome and boring.
    Regrettably, sadly and most likely there will be more Newtown-type massacres again in the future,
    for if vermin like the Newtown shooter  want to access guns and kill innocent people, they will find a way.
    The horrific loss of life in Newtown is now marked in the annals of history as one of the worst
    such episodes ever, but it’s over and now it’s time to move on.

  • big wyo

    Wyoming, for some time now, has had Officers stationed in every high school larger than a certain size.
    I know  other near states have them as well .
    You liberals can drop the this wouldn’t work crap, or its unaffordable. I know for a fact most Califoria high schools have huge security forces and metal detectors. Its already being done and afforded.
    Quit appologizing for being law abiding gun owners under the constitution.
    NRA- quit appologizing for defending the constitution.
    The right to self defense is an unalienable right of every living being. the Second amendment be damned.
    We don’t know what really happened at Sandy hook toooooo——-much conflicting video.
    Video shows there was a buzz in system at the school
    According to Jabba Moore there were armed guards at Columbine . Must of missed that when I was in HS in Colorado not too far before then. Not saying Jabbas lying just saying I missed it.
    IF YOU LIBS DON’T LIKE GUNS THATS YOUR RIGHT.
    YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT IN iNFRINGE ON OURS.
    We are more than happy to not assist you with our weapons when needed – with the exception of children.

  • Edward T

    Guns don’t kill people… People kill people!!!!!! Enough said….

  • Ed Watson

    Wind sailor.  Right now wasp spray (shoots a blinding stream not a spray) is available NOW and can be used in schools just like ant spray.  While our do-nothing Congress takes their finger out of their mouth (?) and lets teachers and administrators “carry” the spray will have to do.
    Ed

    • mrsgunnut10

      @Ed Watson
       Sorry Ed, I always thought their fingers were sticking in the other END.

  • margar

    where do you think young or old people get these ideas to go around shooting up people, malls and schools? do you think the killing games they play on the internet might have something to do with it. and then there are the violent movies they flock to see.  and then the media tells it over and over again and glorifies it.  look at all the attention the killer gets.  it is like bonnie and clyde and baby face nelson. if a person is just a bit deranged they think that doing these things will immoralize them, they’ll become somebody everybody will remember.  the media needs to stop. all of them talked about it for days.  it was a great tragedy but i still think that a gun in the principal/superintends office is a good idea, metal detectors and on site security guard armed with a gun is the better idea.  the good guys are the ones who need the guns…

    • edodaniel

      @margar While the violence in games may have some effect on some individuals I doubt that it is the main cause because if one remembers back to their youth (for those of us whose youth was when pinball was the latest and greatest) we all played “cops and robbers” and/or “Cowboys and Indians” and “Army” and there was a lot of “bang bang you are dead!  No I’m not, I shot you first” and while that once in a while escalated to fisticuffs I don’t recall any that caused friends to go home and get a gun.
       
      The biggest problem is that due to liberal influences over the last half century moral values have declined and school authorities have lost their ability to administer punishments so kids know that they can get away with doing and saying things to each other and to their teachers that would have left us standing up after a paddling because it hurt to sit down AND then getting it again from our parents after going home.
       
      The media shares that blame for their intense national coverage of what are actually local events and thus they contribute directly to creating copycats.

  • GeneMcCarthy

    Front Sight’s Dr. Ignacius Piazza has offered defensive handgun courses to any school teacher in America who asks. I am an NRA member and a life time member of Front Sight.  I can attest it is the best training I have ever had and goes well beyond my training in the military, and LAPD. Front Sight coupled with the offer by NRA could provide teachers and administrators with the skills they need to protect our children.

    • thebernellegrop

      @GeneMcCarthy Finally, somebody who has something sensible to say.  Thank You, Gene!

  • bobobuster

    These anti-gun liberals are out of their minds!  When the “honest” people do as the law would require and turn in their guns, does anybody REALLY believe the “criminals” will turn theirs in?
    It’s time for people to get serious and not jump off the deep end in making decisions as to our 2nd Amendment rights.

    • Cliffystones

      @bobobuster The problem is you’d have better luck explaining this to the liberals pet goldfish!

  • AwakeningGiant

    Yes, all of the Democrats who now have armed security, including Obama, Hillary, Eric Holder, Mayor Bloomberg, etc. should immediately issue an order that their Security staffs will no longer be armed.  If someone threatens Obama with a gun his Security people should rush that person unarmed, just like the Principal of Sandy Hook did to the armed shooter at that school.  What a fabulous idea, don’t you agree?

  • mrsgunnut10

    It would really be simple for the crooks,rapists,murders, Ect:,Ect., if ALL of the Rabid Anti-Gun People would wear a RED Button, telling these Misfits – They hate Guns and weapons of all kinds. That way any of these deranged People could pick and choose, from the Anti-Gun people who they wanted, and leave the rest of us alone. I sure would hate to try to help someone that did not want  me to carry my weapon. They might sue me for interfering. Thank you for your time. TSgt., USAF Retired.

  • anniesdad

    I think the devil puked and liberals werte created. These people everything evil about humanity.When they all agree to get rid of their bodyguards,security systems,walled in homes, move to the crime ridded areas of Chicago,Harlem,Detroit,los Angles, then the rest of us low life conservatives might talk about giving up our guns.When we don’t have an egotistical ass like the one in the White House and his criminal cohorts trying to subvert our constitution and our freedoms in the name of “the greater good.” When we can feel less threatened by our own government then we do by terrorists then we can talk about about giving up our guns and trusting the government to look out for our best interests.That will probably happen when the First Parasite gives up her vacations and lavish parties and other waste of our hard earned dollars.

    • texanna

      @anniesdad
       Hey, that theory works for me.

  • smokinscope

    Amen to letting them advertse “I am an unarmed defeseless shmuck!!

  • Edward T

    If you put a gun on a table it is harmless. If you don’t pick it up you are harmless. Think about it. A weapon on a table can be placed there for several hours and not hurt anyone by it self. Why should they be removed from the honest person? The right person. We don’t need gun control. We need a better screening process for individuals requesting there privilege to acquire there weapons. Give to the ones deserving of the right and know that they will do the right thing when they have too.

  • mountainman400

    Democrats are idiots, if they were smart, they would not be a democrat.

  • Les

    This whole mess began when God was taken out of school and our lives.

  • librtyship

    The Democraqt politicians care for only two things, namely re election plus saftey for their own lousy hides!!

  • march2thec

    The democrat party for the last 60 years has been the sanctuary of lying hypocrites. Senator Ted Kennedy voted consistently AGAINST gun rights, but at one point in his last decade, one of his personal bodyguards was stopped at the airport about to board an airplane while carrying several fully automatic machine pistols and enough ammunition to take out all his fellow passengers. We have to assume this person had been carefully checked so as to ensure he was not an obvious madman, but his job was to protect Kennedy, and not give a crap about anyone else’s safety, even from his own rounds. The Senator quickly got the guy out of hock, and in a couple of days, the media said not another word. LYING RASCALS. “Armed protection for me, but NOT FOR YOU, peasants.”
    And Kennedy himself proved at Chappaquiddick that you don’t need a gun to kill another human being.

    • JimGreaves

      @march2thec
       Jane Fonda and her then-husband, the radically stupid Tom Hayden, called the sheriff of Santa Barbara County CA one day when they had a “break-in”. When the sheriff (or deputy) saw a gun in the house he asked the obvious, innocent question: “I thought you were opposed to gun owning…?” Their answer, from Jane’s treasonous mouth, “That’s not for us, that’s for other people”. Said it all, and it is sufficient to remember til they come for you@!!!!!!!

    • Victoryman

      @march2thec
       Just take a look at the democrat “Heroes” worshipped by the great unwashed drones.  Teddy Kennedy – thrown out of Harvard for cheating and murdered a young girl.  Drove a wife to alcohol.  Bill Clinton – impeached as president, philanderer who cheated with many – including a now famous intern.  Lost his law license.  Barney Frank – no comments needed.  Gerry Studds – democrat from Mass.  Took an underage boy to Morocco for sexual purposes.  Was censured by the house of representatives – while standing in the dock awaiting a reading of the charges against him the dems in the house STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED HIM.  Shameful.  Cold cash Jefferson – the FBI found 80K in his freezer.  The list goes……..Nancy Lugosi, Joe Biden…….etc.

  • djfisher3

    A radical, vocal Democrat, liberal, progressive, globalist is like a nagging wife that you can not get rid of or divorce legally. I hope they realize the alternative and that their inflated numbers in their comrade media will only hurt them in time.

  • GFWSR

    I think a great starting point would be to take down every “gun free  zone” sign in the country. Let the bad guys guess whether they might get their a** shot off or not! I always thought that was a stupid idea.

    • Victoryman

      @GFWSR
       I think a more appropriate sign would be, “Dr. Smith and Dr. Wesson are in the building!”

  • paladin21

    It always amazes me that liberals are so hell bent on murdering defenseless innocent unborn humans but transform into the most compassionate people in gun violence, EXCEPT when armed citizens intervene and prevent violence. This has more to do with lack of faith in God, ignorance and total reliance on government to fix everything. Lanza, Holmes, and every other sick, evil loser that does this all target the defenseless. They didnt go to a SEAL team or a police station armed with the intent to kill, they attacked schoolkids and other unarmed and untrained civilians because they are an easy target. The number one way to not become a victim is to become a hard target. The NRA and guns themselves have been unjustly demonized. History has proven time and again that disarming the public only leads to Sandy Hooks on grand scales, not preventing them. Another huge factor is the departure from faith in our nation. God has been made unwelcome in our schools and in some of our homes, and we’re bombarded with immorality in many forms and mediums. The emotional response by some in the wake of this terrible tragedy to ban certain types of weapons is ludicrous: Criminals don’t obey laws by definition. We already have over 10,000 gun laws on the books, why pass more? Make yourself and your family a hard target, and choose not to become a victim.

  • lorriekinard

    The whole issue of mental illness should be addressed but I agree with Les that this country has slowly been
    deteriorating since one person who did not believe in God sued and won and God was taken out of our schools and every year, even more so in recent years, we have had to fight to say the word God, to pray, to even wish someone a Merry Christmas, but also with the taking of God out of schools and public places we have also seen the deterioration of families and morals. Government has stepped in and has ultimately destroyed the ability to be a family, because as long as you can do whatever you want to do, whether it is to bring up children with no strong moral support, no strong role models and they are not taught about right and wrong or God at home, then many of these children will and do end up in another government facility, prison.
    That is why Conservatives and Christians must stand up and promote God every single day and stop being silent because the government and left wing organizations are going to continue to try and stamp out every moral fiber in this country.

    • Russian55

      @lorriekinard This has little to do with God.   I know a lot of atheists who own guns.  Most Sikhs have guns.

  • moberndorf

    “Why do Democratic politicians, who receive the taxpayer-funded protection of armed security, want to keep women and children from being protected by armed security?”
     
    Simple. It’s not about gun control. It’s about people control. Ask Hitler, ask Stalin, ask Mao, they’ll tell you (from Hell), a disarmed population can’t fight back.

  • Sawdust 47

    Let’s take the armed guards away from all libs. If they want to be protected let them prove that there is a definite threat and then they can go through a concealed carry course like the rest of us!

  • JimGreaves

    Years ago, there was a break-in at the Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden ranch outside Santa Barbara CA. When a deputy (or the Sheriff) saw that they had guns in the house, Jane proclaimed proudly, “That’s not for us; that’s for other people”. Typical leftist, communist, treasonous shrew. And she still breathes!

    • JimGreaves

      left out the statement from the lawman: “I thought you were opposed to gun ownership”

  • Brabado

    The more attention people pay these  sworn iditos, i.e.  Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Democrats, the more non-sense is going they are going to  come out with!!!
     
    The perfect Solution:   Just ignore them!  
     
    GOD BLESS AMERICA AND PROTECT US ALL,  FROM THESE  SILLY  IDEOLOGS…

    • DanielMelton

      @Brabado There’s untold mischief they can accomplish if they are not watched closely.  I prefer an open season and no bag limit.

  • Don DeHoff

    The anti-gun groups should not even consider confisicating guns, until law enforcement disarms the crimials and mentally ill in this country, something they have been unsuccessfully  attempting to to for the last 200 years.. Simple math: there are X-number of gun related crimes every day, against  “P’ number of citizens the criminals know will be armed. If the guns are taken away from all citizens, to what will the “X” factor rise?. Just looking at Australia and similiar countries where guns have been confiscated, that factor will rise to at least 4-X and possibly 10,   while the “P” factor drops to zero. Also, even if law inforcement was successful in taking the guns of the criminals, and mentally ill, that would not stop the attacks. as the attackers would “double up” and or use other weapons, which could only  be logically  defended against by a gun.  Knowing that, I beleive every  disarmed citizen who is assulted  would have grounds to sue the law enforement agencies for  gross negligence, including those politicians who voted for such stupid laws. Then, our 2nd Amendment needs its own amendment, clarifying that the citizens have a right to arm and  protect themselves and the other citizens against both,  tyranny, and or any political entity advocating the overthrow of our Republic, Constitutional and freedom form of government. Then, the anti-gun people  each must be confronted and ask to refute these points and when they cannot, ask them point blank, what is their objective (s) and who do they represent? Immediate solution? There is none, but single term limits for both Houses and the President, would go a lolng way in resolving these issues. True, we would lose some political continutity and experience, but that would be, by far, offset by a reduction in corruption, crime and power issues in government, big business and the unions.

    • DanielMelton

      @Don DeHoff The object is to disarm citizens.  They have no interest in disarming criminals.

      • Don DeHoff

        @DanielMeltonDan, that is exactly my point. Until “they” can control the criminals and the mentally incompentent, they should not even suggest that overall gun controls should be explored. Taking guns now, would only leave the citizens more exposed, as the criminals and mentally impaired could still have access.to guns, as they always have. Ask any anti-gun nut to refute my math formula, and then clearly state to them,since it canot be refuted  that they obviously have an ulterior and very possibly, treasonous point of view, which could  subject them  to a public  firing squad (I made up that last part). And don’t forget to point out that even if al guns were confiscated, there still would be crying need for guns to protect the citizens from attacks by unarmed grouips or individuas with other kinds of weapons. Again, it is not the guns, it is people who attack and kill people—Demand they refute that premise.

        • NavyJR

          @Don DeHoff  I believe what you’re missing is that they don’t want to control the criminals, just the citizens, who will then be more easily rounded up for execution, thus disarmed!

        • kissitgoodbte

          @NavyJR @Don DeHoff / Look at the Socialist Marxist model … First thing they do is get all guns out of the hands of its citizens, then they go in for the kill. The criminals become the government.

  • Muriel McGrann

    vGod save our children……the Democrats only want to politicise an issue….they could povide armed protection for school children as is done in Israel…and it works.What is good enoughfor the goose is good enough for the gander…Democrats do the logical thing and give the school children the same protection you provided for yourself.

    • Little John

      @Muriel McGrann
       I agree, the same can be said for Obamacare, Social Security, term limits, and host of other items which the DUMBocRATS has pass for “We the people” but not for them in Congress.  No raises until we have balance budget and zero debt.

  • ronalford

    If these liberal Democrats who want to get rid of “assault” weapons and “assault” magazines should be unfortunate enough to be confronted with a home invasion, by not one criminal but a gang, then they will wish to God in Heaven that they had many “assault” weapons and many “assault” magazines fully loaded and ready.

    • DanielMelton

      @ronalford They’ll have their paid security guards to protect ‘em.

      • Truckman

        @DanielMelton  @ronalford Special Ops has proven that if someone wants to get you bad enough,they will succeed. Having an “assault rifle” sure works to even the odds though.

        • glow34

          @Truckman  @DanielMelton  @ronalford
           And that’s the truth; you must have been reading Vince Flynn; I just wish that his FICTION were TRUE when it comes to these overfed, overpaid fat PIGS on the hill; I would start with Pelosi and follow with Reid, and on down the line

        • DanielMelton

          @Truckman  Been there, done that, but I carried an M14 my first tour.

    • Russian55

      @ronalford There isn’t even a definition of an “assault weapon.”
      “Assault rifle” is defined, it means the gun can fire in full auto or burst mode.
      But most non-gun owners don’t realize that the AR in AR-15 stands for Armalite, the company that designed the AR-15.

  • plane old JOE

    i hope the lib’s are seeing this post and tell us why i would like to hear there story why do our leaders need guns all around them and we dont.

  • bcfeher

    I have not reviewed this nor have I had time to think about it or digest it. I offer the link for your information, draw you own conclusions;
    http://www.henrymakow.com/whos-really-to-blame-for-school-shooting.html

  • ftg

    Funny is that all hate and threats are being done by the DemocRATS and the brain washed and now they say only they should have guns…….. hunting season is here

  • Tonto USA

    Elite political twits trying to disarm normal citizens while surrounded by a phlalanx of armed guards to protect their elite buttocks, and leave us hanging with no protection al all is a bit unfair….not to mention the real motive, which is to disarm us so we can no longer protect ourselves against them.  Does all this say set-up to you?

  • Melia Sese

    It’s very simple – Democrat pols and their idiotic supporters don’t care what happens to us, not at all.  They only exist for one purpose, to gain and maintain dictatorial power over us.  This is why they love Mao, Stalin and Castro – they are bloodthirsty tyrants who will use any means necessary to rule over us.  Their greatest fear?  Is when enough of you understand what I just wrote and thereby never rest until they are defeated, as many times as is necessary.

    • hotrod45

      @Melia Sese to paraphrase the great Mao, political power comes from the muzzle of a gun.  so long as citizens retain their weapons, they will maintain their political power!

  • Melia Sese

    Ed Schultz?  This is a perfect example of the phrase, “liberalism is a mental disorder.”  This guy should be locked up as soon as possible, instead he gets to rant to his heart’s content.

  • JohnFellie

    If the politicians want the Citizens to turn in their guns (that will be when Hell freezes over) I would also suggest that ALL the politicians from the white house down FIRST FIRER all of  their armed security guards. Then I will still keep my guns because I don’t believe a word any politicians say.

    • Russian55

      @JohnFellie In 1999, California enacted a ban on so-called “assault weapons” and required owners to either register them or turn them in. 
       
      Less than 10% of owners complied with the law.  As the guns were not “registered” before the ban, there was no way for the State to compel people to comply.
       
      At present, even at a modest price, it would cost the Federal government billions of dollars.  They cannot compel you to give them to to government without compensation — that would violate the Constitution.
       
      Of course, the current Administration doesn’t seem to be too concerned with following the Constitution…

      • deanied

        @Russian55  @JohnFellie
         Let them explain Fast & Furious!

      • icetrout

        @Russian55  @JohnFellie had a weapons ban here in Maryland & I never turned in my H&K91…

      • hotrod45

        @Russian55  @JohnFellie since when do  the lefties demonstrate any compliance with thee constitution or bill of rights?

      • JohnFellie

        @Russian55 I  have heard about some Mayors of  California towns have told their citizens to load their guns if they had any and lock their doors,because the towns could no longer pay a police force to protect the citizens.This is just the start of something much bigger and it will be nation wide in the coming months.

      • rockribbedrushy

        @Russian55
        @Russian55
         
        @Russian55
        @Russian55
        @Russian55
        @Russian55

      • rockribbedrushy

        @Russian55  @JohnFellie “Less than 10% of owners complied with the law.  As the guns were not “registered” before the ban, there was no way for the State to compel people to comply.”
         
        Bingo! Give that man a Blue Ribbon.
        That is precisely why they want you to register your firearms.
        Crime is just a pretense.
        They want to know exactly where they are when the want to come and get them.

    • icetrout

      @JohnFellie & they can disband the standing army(military) also…& I’ll keep my weapons safe in their hideaways…

    • Truckman

      @JohnFellie I wouldn’t go so far as to FIRE their Security protections;there would be plenty of work for them protecting the Children and faculty at all the Schools, (Kindergarten Cop?) as well as other protection work for everywhere groups of people are present.

  • Woman Gun Owner

    Nothing in the US Constitution applies to Democrats or anyone else that have armed security available to them.
    Our US Constitution is a true today as it was the day it was written over 200 yrs ago and ratified 12/15/1791. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a Free State, the Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Self Defense is a basic human right. NOW, read that last sentence again and keep reading and stating that fact. When Obama and Bloomberg give up their armed guards and walk the streets of Washington D.C. and New York City a lone for the rest of their time in office, I will stop posting, but I will always be proud to be a member of the NRA, NAGR, and Second Amendment Sisters, Inc(www.2asisters.org) and Texas State Rifle Assoc or TSRA. Personally, I will not give up my right to protect myself or one of my loved ones. Only fools can expect a policeman to be available when someone kicks in your door, pulls a gun/knife on you a a supermarket parking lot, or while your leaving your church or school. Obama will not sign into law a order to protect newborn babies what pray tell does he care about 5 to 10 yr old children being killed. It’s all about getting our guns.

    • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

      Women, your right. mr oboma wants them so bad, he moved on to the children to get the results he wanted. Make no mistake who is behind the 23 gun violence scenes since mr oboma has been in office.

      • glow34

        @ssilv48
         I totally agree with you and i have been saying that since Arizona and through Colorado and Oregon and now this; that USURPER ILLEGAL wants to disarm Americans so badly that he doesn’t care who dies and whom better to go after than CHILDREN  – he doesn’t care about America and his aim is to destroy;  Look at Benghazi, and if is allowed to get away with that, he wil not stop.  Did he even mention the plight of that American Marine being ILLEGALLY incarcerated in a fillthy disgusting MEXICAN jail where he was tortured; did he lift a finger to help get him home; HELL NO, because he HATES our Military and his aim is to DISMANTLE and DIsarm America completely  What people don’t understand is the advanced methods that the government has to filter and find people with mental problems and program them, most of the time even without their knowledge and all of these mass killings have  the White House written all over them and they are NOT going to STOP until they accomplish that or so they think;  We citizens have to stand up and UNITE and STOP this INSANITY; I believe that the NRA proposal is the mosts sensible and workable solution that I have heard or read and we, the citizens need to get BEHIND them and make it happen.   Obama is the GREATEST THREAT that American has ever faced!

        • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

          @glow34 Glow, your a lot more on the ball than I was, it was not until about the last 3 mass killings before the ??????? light came on in my brain, and when it involved children, that’s when I knew for sure o is behind this, he just needed to find the right nerve on Americans to help him achieve his agenda. Look at what happened, late friday I might add, the Florida judge dis-missed the case against o because the idiot judge stated: well, since he rides on air force one, he must be elligable to be president……..WHAT???? What kind of fruit punch is this idiot drinking????

    • hotrod45

      Obama & other lefties have already stated “let no crisis go to waste”, meaning they will use any crisis to further THEIR agenda.  i concur with your comments 100%.

      • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

        @hotrod45 The problem is hotrod, they are the one’s who created the crisis to help them with their agenda.

    • glow34

      I suggest that citizens PETITION to have SECURITY for the lazy ass CONGRESS removed as it is the taxpayers who are paying for it and they definitely do not deserve it; they are just REGULAR CITIZENS like the rest of us – they have a JOB to do which they DON’T do and use taxpayers money to enrich themselves and keep thier worthless asses protectted and throw the citizens and especially the children, to the women; U am with you; I will NEVER turn my GUNS IN, NEVER!

  • joebideyourtime

    They just don’t know what to do if they can’t demand that something be taken away from someone else.  They just stand there and pee in their pants.

  • joebideyourtime

    Send all the liberals to Afghanistan and find out which side they’re on.

  • Truckman

    Is there even ONE Democrat out there who can cohesively explain to me how taking the guns away from law abiding,skilled gun owners will make anyone except criminals safe?

    • ONCE A DEM NEVER AGAIN

      @Truckman HEY THEY TRIED THAT AFTER KATRINA . AND ALL THE COPS WENT HOME TO PROTECT THEIR OWN FAMILYS  AND LEFT THE STREET TO THE HOODS AND IT WORKED THE CRIMINALS RAN THE CITY!!

      • DanielMelton

        @ONCE A DEM NEVER AGAIN  @Truckman NO is still run by criminals.

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton  @ONCE A DEM NEVER AGAIN  It was run by criminals BEFORE Katrina too; so.. what was it that changed?

      • kissitgoodbte

        @ONCE A DEM NEVER AGAIN @Truckman / Louisiana is know to have one of the highest crime rates in the country , along with government corruption. They ALWAYS run the city.

  • Melia Sese

    Hey Sheila … why don’t you be a good little girl and repeat your plea to everyone you see, oh, and while you’re at it, tell all your Democrat friends to do the same, including that bozo in the White House.  Just keep talking, lefties.  We thought you’d learned your lesson but looks like you will need another.  This will be the issue whereby the Dems lose power in House and Senate next year, and then the WH in 2016.  We’re comin’ for ya … try to stop us.

    • Combat Veteran Seabee

      @Melia SeseUnarm the secret service first so we have a level playing field!

      • historicaltrekker

        @Combat Veteran Seabee  @Melia Sese 10-4!!!

      • rockribbedrushy

        @Combat Veteran Seabee  @Melia Sese 
        Umm, just send them to Las vegas first.
        We may get lucky and never see them again.

    • deanied

      @Melia Sese
       Hallalugah!!  I’m with you!

  • e1313ruth

    All the dummierats from the president down  should show us by example what a gunless society really means…Let their protectors disarm first and sow us te way…That is unless they are too chicken to do it..

    • bmg28

      A great idea but those dumocrats are chicken livers

      • glow34

        @bmg28
         You got it; they are GUTLESS and TOTALLY INCOMPETENT

      • rockribbedrushy

        @bmg28 
        Hey,let’s not insult chicken livers by comparing them to democRATS.
        You can eat chicken livers, but I imagine that democRATS would be rather gristly and tough to eat, eh?

  • thebernellegrop

    I suggest that, following the model of  placing plain-clothes Federal Marshals on airplanes, schools allow teachers and volunteers, PROPERLY TRAINED and in plain clothes, to carry concealed firearms on their persons in the classroom.  There MAY BE an armed person or persons on the school campus on any day, but since participation on any day is voluntary, on some days the school might not have an armed person in the school.
     
    All school teachers and staff would be made aware when an armed person is on campus, and would be informed as to who that person is.  Although the person would be in plain clothes, the school might opt to have the person wear a cloth armband or some other means of quickly identifying the armed person in an emergency.
     
    A sign should be prominently placed at school entrances stating that a plain-clothes armed guard MAY be present on campus.
     
    The mere possibility that an armed guard MIGHT be present, should deter potential shooters from approaching the campus.
     
    (Experience has shown that house breakings are rare in homes where an external sign states that a burglar alarm is present, whether or not the alarm is active.)

    • Combat Veteran Seabee

      @thebernellegropHello! Here I am, I got the arm band on see! I’m the armed Guy! Are you a total idiot?

      • thebernellegrop

        @Combat Veteran Seabee OK, if that bugs you, scrap the armband.

      • thebernellegrop

        @Combat Veteran Seabee BTW, thank you for your service to our country.

      • thebernellegrop

        @Combat Veteran Seabee  BTW, thank you for your service to our country.

      • thebernellegrop

        @Combat Veteran Seabee  Thank you for your service to our country.

        • DaveMerritt

          @thebernellegrop  @Combat Veteran Seabee
           Somewhat redundent, are you?

        • DaveMerritt

          @thebernellegrop  @Combat Veteran Seabee
           make that “redundant”.

        • catmando

          @DaveMerritt  @thebernellegrop  @Combat Veteran Seabee
           Hey Dave….How about you and I volunteering for our school district?
          Wally

        • rockribbedrushy

          @DaveMerritt  @thebernellegrop  @Combat Veteran Seabee 
          I believe he used to work for the Federal Department of Redundancy Department.

  • ONCE A DEM NEVER AGAIN

    OR JUST LOOK AT ALL THE CRIME IN ENGLAND THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP GROWING EVERY YEAR !

  • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

    As long as mr oboma is in the w/h, if you took the time to notice how many time that this has happened with mr oboma in the w/h, it will continue. You see, he has an agenda to finish and he could not start it with the first 22 times this happened on his watch, it took the 23 time and he involved children………it’s called brainwashing.

  • SusanWoods

    England disarmed its’ citizens.  Now, England has the highest crime rate and occurrance of violence of any country. 
    No thank you.  If someone breaks into my home when I am there, I will BLOW HIM AWAY!!!

  • JohnFellie

    Every Constitution loving Citizen needs to read The History of Gun Control, it can be seen on line.Anybody that understands why out of control governments want their Citizens unarmed will NEVER give up their GUNS to Anybody. Hell will freeze over first before I give up anything to this out of control government.

  • Paul Nordin

    To mitigate the effect of mentally ill individuals with guns in public places, I have suggested to President Obama that he enourage every legal gun owner to voluntarily carry their loaded weapons (either concealed or in view) whenever they appear in public places and to take appropriate action if they observe a person shooting other people.  If these aproximately one million individual gun owners need training, I am sure that the NRA can help organize that.  The cost to we the taxpayers would be close to zero.  I own  three hand guns and would carry one in public if Mr. Obama would take the suggested action.  There is not a perfect solution to the problem of mentally ill persons wanting to kill a lot of people in public places but this idea is very nearly free and almost instantaneously implemented.  Write your congressman to help get this thing going!
     
    Paul Nordin
    [email protected]

    • Reinhard

      Good idea  Paul, but it has its drawbacks. Did you hear about the man carrying a permitted handgun in a Costco store (I’m fairly certain that’s where it was) who was observed by a clerk. He told him he had a permit, did not draw his gun, but the clerk panicked, got the store in an uproar. The police arrived and shot the gun owner down when he tried to explain.

    • DanielMelton

      You lowball the number of handgun owners by a considerable factor.

  • calling all leaders

    Chris Graham: Ed Shultz? When are you ever going to quote any one with real power and influence?!!! I will be sharing some…whom Many happen to be listening.

  • J Joy

    This is because Democrats consider themselves so much more important than any other thing living or not.  They must survive anything and everything.  What they don’t understand is that their behavior is what causes the need for them to have armed protection.  If they would become human again instead of putting themselves on pedestals and looking down on the rest of us, they might not need this protection.  
     
    They are also forgetting about the need to listen to their constituents.  Although I sometimes wonder why they need to; all they seem to have to do is promise to take care of the blind sheep that follow them, and they continue to get re-elected.  I am very disillusioned by the entire process.  
     
    The fact that they can’t get over themselves long enough to consider protection for children – well, that just makes them inhumane ideologues with huge self worth.  Arrogance seems to be a requirement to be a politician.

    • glow34

      @J Joy We citizens NEED to keep track of which of them vote what and where and make sure that they ar VOTED OUT of office if they do not vote to represent their constituents who put them in office; citizens also need to organize and RECALL any politician wno is getting too big for his britches and who does not represent the rights of the people; we need to RECALL JOHN BEIHNER for instance

    • DanielMelton

      @J Joy If liberal ‘lawmakers’ were made responsible for their own protection, not relying on surrounding themselves with a wall of armed bodyguards, they might be more appreciative of others’ concerns in the realm of personal safety.

  • calling all leaders

    “There’s no guarantee that the first person a mass killer targeted wouldn’t be any armed guard, especially a suicidal killer with nothing to lose, …I had hoped that the NRA was going to announce its support for meaningful gun control.” commissioner Ray Kelly. Do you think he knows more than most? He’s none other the top cop in the nation, probably across the globe! He presides over the most OPEN, VISITED & densely populated cities in the world.

    • glow34

      And just what do you consider “Meaningful” gun control – disarming all American citizens?

      • calling all leaders

        @glow34. Perhaps you need meds to control your paranoia

        • Lee Davis

          @calling all leaders: I.m with glow34. You was not very clear about what you meant. Can you go ahead and answer his (and my) question?

        • calling all leaders

          @Lee Davis. The key words were the two that followed ‘meaningful’. That is to say Kelly is looking for ideas that would make it harder for whackos to get guns. I think LaPierre’s suggest to implement a database was …off the mark

        • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

          leader, maybe you should get off your medication to see the light and what is happening right in front of your nose. There are a lot of mass killings since mr o has been in office……at what point does the light come on

        • rockribbedrushy

          ” The key words were the two that followed ‘meaningful’.”
           
          Yes, yes, we know, “meaningful gun control.”
          Just exactly what does he and what do you mean by 
          “meaningful gun control.”?

        • DanielMelton

          I carry a gun. Why should I be paranoid?

        • glow34

          No, I leave the BIG PHARMA POISON to fools like you who apparently still wear rose tinted glasses; perhaps it has escaped your notice that “BIG BROTHER’S” governemt zeroes in on those taking MENTAL DISORDER  MEDS, so I’d be very careful what is out contained in your medical records;  Thanks for the suggestion though; herb tea does the job for me; I’ll leave the feeding of Big Pharma’s GLUTTONY to people like you!

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton That’s my boy!

        • kissitgoodbte

          @ssilv48 / Like all good liberals, he insults because the facts aren ‘t on his side. Divert and obfuscate .

    • catmando

      What do you consider an “armed guard”. Someone in a pretty uniform with a nice shiny badge? Common sence tells me (and I’m a retired LEO) that the “guard” would be in plain clothes looking like another teacher. Besides that, proper planning of a security system would probably keep everybody except authorized persons out of the school in the first place. Hardening up the school perimeters is but one way to accomplish this. Cameras placed at strategic locations and monitored during the school day is another Two way communications between the administratiion/monitor and the armed person(s) would add to the security. Lastly a system of individual alarms, location oriented that would transmit an sos signal from an individual location to the monitor station is another plus in the system.
      The Federal Prison System uses an alarm system like this in it’s facilites and it works quite well.
      As for “meaningful gun control”, just what would you propose? The ilimination of ALL privately owned firearms perhaps? Maybe a data base of all persons who own guns of any type? Registering all individuals who own guns? What would your plan be? Our Constitutions second amendment gives the us God given right to “keep and bear” arms and that doesn’t mean duck hunting. Meaningful gun control is useing two hands, proper sight alignment and proper trigger squeeze.

      • DanielMelton

        @catmando From your post, it sounds like you would have tsa in charge of school security.
         
        Why re-invent the wheel?  The Israeli model works quite well.  Arm the teachers, replace those who refuse to stand up for the children under their care.  (hint: there’s a reason fire extinguishers are planted throughout school buildings rather than stationing fire department personnel in schools.)

    • Combat Veteran Seabee

      Let me put it to you in this way! We have in America, a portion of society that tends to believe in. and  does obey, all laws that have been imposed upon them, including Gun Laws.
       Now we have a certain segment of society that just gives us “Law Abiding Citizens,” the finger, and says, what you have, I’m going to take it, be it your possesions or your daughter, they are MINE!
       here within lies the problem! If ALL citizens were LAW ABIDING we wouldn’t have the word “CRIMINAL,” in our vocabulary would we? So your argument holds no credence!

  • calling all leaders

    “These guns are part of a culture… not part of my culture, not part of your culture.” Joe Scarbarough former GOP rep from Florida. For the rest of his comments:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/12/18/joe-scarborough-gun-control-newtown_n_2322017.html

    • big wyo

      You quoted the huffington post and destroyed any credibilty you might have had…Troll

      • rockribbedrushy

        As well as quoting the “Morning Schmoe”.

        • DanielMelton

          @rockribbedrushy That’s whats known as ‘doubling down’ on stupid.

        • rockribbedrushy

          @DanielMelton Joe used to be an honest guy til he got on the radio and drank a heapin’ helpin’ of that Kool-Aid they send out from the White House.

    • rockribbedrushy

      Before you blame guns again, maybe you should read this, eh?
       
      http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons-school-security-failure
       
      Maybe your boy lollipop should look in the mirror first before pointing the finger, eh?

  • historicaltrekker

    When second count, the police are only minutes away, so what is the problem??

    • Arminius

      @historicaltrekker Come out, come out wherever you are in LALA Land! 
      The police are an extremely small percentage of the populace they are sworn to protect and when not on mundane calls to quell domestic violence, drug abusers, drunks, etc., are eating donuts (just kidding but a staple of thought in the general public) or parked someplace for whatever reason.  How can the average policeman respond to an incident except AFTER the fact.  Were the teachers armed or selected and trained staff armed or a Police Officer AT THE SCENE either it would NEVER happen or with immediate action the deranged, drugged out, high on legal or illegal drugs murderer would be stopped . . . dead or alive.
      What is your problem you secular-socialist/communist-regressive-democrat ideologues? 
      You encourage and participate every day in MURDER.  Yes, MURDER. 
      Over a million innocent children are MURDERED every year and it is legal says the demonic Caesar.
      You lefties need to let go of your crotch’s and get a grip on reality!

      • historicaltrekker

        @Arminius Kind sir, my point evaded you.  I was saying that with tounge in cheek for the benefit of the farout lefties who do not have a clue what real America is about.  I am and have been voluntered with my communities for most of my 67 years.  I live in rural Texas where our law is the County Sheriff.  I have taken several of the courses offered by our sheriff.  and done my ride alongs in several states.  Yes, it was tounge in cheek.  Read again “When seconds count, the law is only minutes away.  Our average response for the sheriff is 23, yes 23 minutes away.  It we the people who must be the first response to take care of our community problems with morons…
        Nuff said….

    • Combat Veteran Seabee

      @historicaltrekkerI guess you live in a town that is about 1 acre square!

    • Deborah Flynn

      @historicaltrekker It AIN:T as FAST as a speeding bullet

  • http://ocdmusician.com/ RT Alamo

    I AM  TEACHER. 30 years on the job gives me some insight into this situation,  I favor the Air Marshall plan. And yes I’ve already heard liberals shrieking that some teacher might “lose it” and start shooting their students.
     
    I am going to make this as short as I possible can, because I could write an entire book  refuting this:
     
    1.The hiring process for teachers, at least in my state, is rigorous  to say the least. People who are “on the edge” don’t get jobs….except maybe in California or New York.
     
    2.Contrary to liberal opinion, most teachers, all the ones I know -  and I know hundreds, if not thousands – CARE about their students. We hate “standardized testing” that promotes mediocrity and wastes MILLIONS of dollars for that very reason. We want them to be able to think, create, prosper, learn and be happy. And we would give our lives to protect or students. And I am NOT exceptionally dedicated. This is the norm for teachers. Seriously, if we didn’t care about them, we would find another job, because it is stressful and often thankless job.
     
    3. I think I can keep this to 3 major points – NOT EVERY TEACHER WILL QUALIFY TO BE TRAINED AND ARMED!!
    Many will not be comfortable carrying a weapon, and I would  estimate that to be  75%. Next, passing an school administrative evaluation and law enforcement evaluation would eliminate another 15%. Realistically, 10% of teachers and administrators
    would probably be the maximum. So, on a campus like mine, with about 100 teachers and administrators, approx. 10 would be TRAINED, certified, licensed and carrying. 
     
    Finally, those of us who are serious about this want a brutally intense vetting of candidates, unlike the way we do with presidents. This is SERIOUS! And only those who are able to handle this responsibility in every way can become, in essence and reality, a law officer.
     
    Statistics show that “gun-free zones” are where attacks occur. Statistics also show that criminals do not obey laws, so more laws or more bans won’t stop this behavior. A “Gun Free Zone” sign has PROVEN to read “open season” to psychopaths.
     
    I want to be a part of this program. I have handled firearms since I was 9 years old, when my grandfather bought me a single shot 410 for Christmas. And my father, who was an Army Sgt. and expert marksman taught me how to use them safely and properly.  Carrying a weapon is serious, never to be taken lightly, and doesn’t even come out of the holster unless it’s the last resort or “first response” to prevent murder.
     
    And just to be clear, I am a parent. I WOULD feel safer knowing that my children,were protecting by teachers who WOULD lay down their lives for them. teachers or others who would stand BETWEEN them and a bullet and be able to stop the attack.
    Personally, I would do so even if unarmed. But that would just mean I was the first to die.
     
    The world is not a safe place. (DUH!!) And, yea, “It’s a hell of a thing, killing a man.” (Clint Eastwood, “Unforgiven.”) And I would hate to have to do so, and would ONLY as if it was my only option, because I know it would haunt me for the rest of my life.
     
    But if I let someone kill my students, even one, when I could’ve prevented it? I don’t think I could live with that.
     
    Last point: Knowing that their are “Guardians” in a school who will take you out ASAP would be – DON’T ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT THIS; I AM RIGHT! – WOULD BE a tremendous deterrent to keep a psychopath out of the school. But even if he was PCP’d and over the edge, he would not have the chance to do much damage, hopefully none.

    • kissitgoodbte

      @RT Alamo / I hope you realize that our schools are preparing our children for the New World Order… Globalization. Part of that entails the brainwashing of our kids, causing cognitive dissonance, and the use of the Delphi Technique.

  • Dan Daly

    I have spent 71 + years on this planet and in this country without owning a gun. Believe it or not , Bushmaster armed crazies are not what have caused me to purchase not one but two semi automatic hand guns , plus have a tactical HD shotgun in selection process and a semi automatic rifle with high capacity magazine as my save up for goal. What has caused my need to arm myself is the political regime which is scheming to disarm the populace. I am more afraid of a runaway Socialist Dictatorship than I am of random crazies seeking immortality by committing suicide after mass murder…

    • calling all leaders

      @Dan Daly. It is unfortunate that you suffer late onset paranoia. I’ve seen studies in UK that say as 10% may have moderate form. It has been a boon to the NRA that trains you, and the sector that profits from you. I suspect that this subculture will morph again, not grow to adapt to the times …like when a Republican is in office, you’ll be back at the border with the other ‘militia’ wannabes. I hope I don’t but expect to read about another citizen – not of the American culture – held up in a cabin in the woods, shot by ATF. Good luck killing socialists. They might be moving into your neighborhood.

      • stormtrooper1991

        @Dan
         who asked for your opinion ? This situation is bad enough without the likes of you and piers Morgan ( big “M”, small organ ) spouting off about it. Why don’t you sweep the streets in your own country and let us tend to ours.

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @calling all leaders / It’s unfortunate that you are so intolerant of opposing viewpoints that you must resort to insults. That is a sign of a lack of intelligence. I thought you were the party of tolerance and free choice, but only if it’s your choice and comports with your opinion.

        • calling all leaders

          @Kissitgoodbye. Because I am offended by some one who says we live under a “socialist dictatorship”? I must be dumb…but proud American!

        • Kissitgoodbye

          We have a constitution for a reason. If you don’t like that constitution, then go to the UK that doesn’t have one.  When government destroys free enterprise in favor of govenment control, you have socialism. When you have a President who bypasses congress and does as he pleases with the help of his minions, that’s a dictatorship.  Sometimes the truth hurts.  Under this administration, we aren’t told the truth. Seems you don’t want to hear what is,only what you think it is. Unfortunately we have been lied to, you included.  Under the law, a lie in one is a lie in all.

        • NavyJR

          Not “dumb” but willfully ignorant of the facts, yes.  We DO live currently under a socialist dictator!  That’s a simple fact; you don’t have to be proud of it. but denial is unhealthy for YOU.  Neither do you have to like the fact, but it IS reality!

        • Deborah Flynn

          And i’m offended by people who are so blind they are offended by that. In the last 4 years we have succombed to our rights and freedoms being taken away. You may not be aware but they are. Our bank accounts now have watches on them for any activity they do not think is normal> Our Buying habits monitored and sent to a government ” FDA approved consumer watch group saying it will help the determine what foods we eat. The reality is is documenting us, Our bodies are searched and violated, our every move including what OBAMA care is going to make our medical records available. You have no idea and you are offended?
           
           I’m offended by the lack of fear the lemmings on the left have for this grab of power and privacy. Bet you didn’t know when you swipe ANY card grocery store, Atm,gas card ALL of that is now because of OBAMA available for the IRS, The EPA, The Cia and more. It is all in the name of making our lives better. By whose standards theirs? We have zero privacy anymore and the words Private emaiul are an oxymoron. SO be offended I am a Patriotic American offended by your lack of outrage.

        • Richnjsouth

          @Deborah Flynn
           you are correct. Do you notice that this regime is so corrupt and vile, that you cannot have enough space or time to comment on all the subjects that obama and gang has violated? He has done more criminal activities than the last several presidents combined, including the wonder boy Bubba Clinton.  Obama has the press drooling over him, still about half the population thinks he is some kind of god on earth, misunderstood and abused.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Dan That was those most incoherant post on this website. What are you talking about?

    • Deborah Flynn

      @Dan Daly I agree these people think dictaorship can’t happen in America………….news flash it already has

  • http://ocdmusician.com/ RT Alamo

    FOLLOW-UP: First my apologies for the typos in my comment. I’m ill and typing fast. And I don’t teach typing. Although typing as fast as possible, I DO think through situations logically, unlike Ed Schultz, whose name, along with Chris Matthews, I hope disappears from the public discourse by Monday. (If I see “Nancy Pelosi” mentioned herein I will know the Mayans were right. We’re DOOMED. They just got the date wrong.)
     
    For your consideration, from someone more qualified than I.
     
    This offers you another stellar example of a letter (written by a Marine), that places the proper perspective on what a gun means to a civilized society.
     
    It’s an interesting take and one you don’t hear often, but should. Read this eloquent and profound letter and pay close attention to the last paragraph of the letter:
     
    “The Gun Is Civilization” By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)
    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.
     
    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
     
    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
     
    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
     
    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat – it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.
     
    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a FORCED MONOPOLY.
     
    Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
     
    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
     
    The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.
     
    When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid.
    It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.
     
    It removes force from the equation. And that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
     
    So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced”
     
    By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)
     
    And just for those who don’t understand – or won’t understand – the U.S. Constitution, the 2nd Amendment exist so citizens can protect themselves from A) those who do them harm or steal their property and, more importantly today, B) so that a tyrannical govt. could never lay siege to the populace and establish a corrupt dictatorship, oligarchy, monarchy or any other govt system that enslaves We The People.
     
    We may be too late to stop that.
    BTW – in the realm of “conspiracy theory,” it’s interesting to note the timing of the Col. and Conn. murders and that there is a
    strrange “coincidence” involving the fed. govt:
    Obama Caught In Gun Hoax – http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=w1yytHt_b0I
    http://youtu.be/mvOU-czQnl8
    And that 64% of Americans want school officials armed:
    http://www.gallup.comhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/gallup-poll-64-percent-of-americans-want-school-officials-armed-to-protect-children.html
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/armed-citizen-not-police-prevented-massacre-in-oregon.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkXoQCYvSbo
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/hollywood-mafia-openly-call-for-gun-ban.html
    Ignore Alex if you want, but don’t miss:
    Media Ignores School Massacres Stopped by Gun Owners http://bit.ly/NightlyNews  Special Guest David Thweatt – Superintendent Harrold ISD

    • big wyo

      @RT Alamo
       oh yeah - you go RT and Major Caudill 
               cut and paste

  • ArmbrusterJoe

    @gibletjones @zite Liberals r so irrational&so void of logic that it is absolutely entertaining 2 watch them. I know make more no gun zones.

  • Arminius

    Historicaltrekker:   Thanks for the clarification because all the illogical rantings on MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC leaves one puzzled. 
    Puzzled about what?  Puzzled about why our nation has become such a huge percentage of low-lifes, intent upon getting nothing but FREE STUFF such as welfare, section 8, paid baby sitting, etc. 
    Those were great programs when our nation was a nation of educated, moral people.  An era when most people read and had knowledge of our/the world’s greatest political document, the US Constitution. 
    Now our “leaders” use it as a rag that was written by grouchy, old White Guys and believe they can cherry pick and chose what the Constitution means.  
    I become enraged with illogical conclusions.  So, forgive me if I missed the tongue-in-cheek.

  • djw

    How about taking guns from obummer’s security force and see how he likes that.

  • GordonPage

    I wonder what other parts of the Constitution people like Ed Schultz want to dismantle.

    • MaxineEFunk

      @GordonPage
       That all they need to do except now wait for it ——– how about # 1, then he could be shut up too!

    • Deborah Flynn

      @GordonPage Er that would be eberything? they want to rewrite it to the Obama Manifesto

  • Newsel

    US Should Follow Israel’s Lead on Armed Teachers Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com
     
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/newsmax-readers-teachers-guns/2012/12/18/id/468245#ixzz2FpxhBzAg

  • Bill Harrison

    A Patriot Must Always Be Ready To Defend His Freedom Against His Government

  • DrewbeScrewed

    Since the politicians no longer work for the American People, they represent little value to us and are no longer worth having the bodyguards afforded them at the tax payers expense. What say you Sheila Jackson? Come live amongst us common folks. After all, aren’t we all equal?

  • Starsage

    Well, it seems to me that is a very fair question.  And further: why should our military get to keep their guns and bombs and cruise missiles?  After all, we aren’t in a declared war or under attack.  Why not just disband the military, too?  Then we’d be really safe, wouldn’t we?  Maybe not so safe, after all…

    • http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?176-Godless-Body-Snatchers-V-The-Human-Beings-The-Humans-HAVE-LOST! lightvdark

      @Starsage»»»The PEACE_SIGN is actually a WHITE_FLAG. I have also heard it described as an INVERTED-BROKEN-CROSS, or a Jew, HANGING BY HIS FEET. That kinda PEACE, I CAN LIVE (OR DIE) WITHOUT¿!¡

      • MaxineEFunk

        @lightvdark
         The 2 finger “Peace” sign was also Winston Churchill’s ‘VICTORY” sign after WWII, and always wondered how it ended up as the sign of peace… Screwed up generation wasn’t it and now look at their children and now wanting to disarm them so idiots like Kerry and Fonda can have tea with the Communists.

        • http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?176-Godless-Body-Snatchers-V-The-Human-Beings-The-Humans-HAVE-LOST! lightvdark

          @MaxineEFunk—-MOST CHRISTIANS, cannot even SAY the E-WORD. Pacifism, to my way of thinking, is every bit as evil as godlessness————————————-
          Ephesians 6:12—-
          King James Version (KJV)———-
          12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

        • http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?176-Godless-Body-Snatchers-V-The-Human-Beings-The-Humans-HAVE-LOST! lightvdark

          I have coined an acronym—P¡§¡€»»»Pacifism Is Suicide; Suicide IS EVIL. Pseudo-Intellectual-Atheists, just seem to ADORE, GENOCIDE—SELF-DEFENSE¿? NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT!++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          “Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’.” 
          ― George Orwell
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        • thebernellegrop

          @MaxineEFunk  @lightvdark Maxine, what you don’t know is that in the British Commonwealth, the so-called V for Victory sign is rude; the English version of the ‘Bird’.  Churchill wasn’t giving a ‘V for Victory’ sign, he was signaling, ‘Up Yours, Adolph!’

  • http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?176-Godless-Body-Snatchers-V-The-Human-Beings-The-Humans-HAVE-LOST! lightvdark

    Medea {DON’T CALL ME SUSAN} Benjamin, President_Code_STINKO, is SCHIZOPHRENIC, BIPOLAR, HYSTERICAL, SOCIOPATHIC, SUICIDAL, BORDERLINE, ANTISOCIAL, PROBABLY A LESBIAN, NIHILISTIC AND POSSESSED. AND, THESE ARE HER STRONG SUITS¿!¡

  • http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?176-Godless-Body-Snatchers-V-The-Human-Beings-The-Humans-HAVE-LOST! lightvdark

    I don’t know about any of YOU, but, I grew up around a lot of Flower_Children_Of_The_Damned. EVERY ONE OF THEM, INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY, 3 BROTHERS, MY FATHER, AN EX-WIFE, AND OVER 80% OF MY PEERS, WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED AS CHILDREN. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHERE THEY STAYED EMOTIONALLY, TILL PRESENT, OR UNTIL THEY DIED YOUNG——————————————————–
    Isaiah 3:4— And I will give children to be their princes, and the EFFEMINATE[^] shall rule over them . ________________ Darby Bible Translation- I WILL COMMIT THE LAND TO THE GOVERNMENT OF WEAK AND IMBECILE PRINCES{^}. _____________________________ http://bks1.books.google.com/books?id=3sSYuQAACAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE73t09aa2UwEps9ajFj5B7pszYavg4T6EgHExNHA2DBU3vhOUaEpvleWGW9ksZgbtqNKz-ipiwi_2wEMQamzXtdZOH31tr-mWSloZp6bmQJ2ynbtQY82gkFmHo1RBjd0siZKLRYT

  • William Wallace

    I will give up all my weapons when the criminals and the liberal politicians give up theirs, including those of their bodyguards.  Diane Feinstein, you first.

    • Deborah Flynn

      How about Pelosi she carries and Bloomberg? how about Obama’s kids having their school surrounded by armed guards. What are our kids? Chopped liver?

  • calling all leaders

    “In this connection it is crucial to disavow a myth that has been perpetrated by both pro- and anti-gun extremists: that what “control” really means is reducing — eventually banning — guns to all but the military and the police. Of course the myth is true insofar as its represents the goal of anti-gun crusaders who deny that gun owners have any legitimate interests.{18} But that is not what “control” means, either literally or to the majority of Americans who support it (a majority that includes, surveys show, most gun owners). The literal meaning of “control” is regulation, not prohibition. Likewise, what “control” means to most Americans is reasonable compromise to accommodate both the legitimate interests of responsible gun owners and the clear social need for rational control over a deadly instrumentality.{19} Regrettably, the trust that is essential for compromise and accommodation has been destroyed by the rancorous vituperation that has characterized the debate over gun control.” Simply stated, LaPierre missed his oppty to suggest regulation that accomodates legitimate interests of responsible gun owners and the clear social need for rational control over weapons used in massacre. He ignored the loopholes at gun shows and the reasons why Adam Lanzas mother was able to buy weapons with a mental patient of a son.

    • big wyo

      dont think anybody is listening to you troll

  • calling all leaders

    In both AZ and CO, the killer was stopped while reloading. So I believe the point of the proposals to ban high capacity mags is so less people are shot before ‘unarmed’ citizens are able to apprehend shooter. LaPierre dismissed the entire argument while cloth! Was he being intellectually dishonest? I don’t believe crazy people can reload quicker than military trained personnel, so i am for a ban.

    • joer1

      Sir, exactly who would be affected by the “ban” you would propose?  The killers?,  the criminals?, the mentally unbalanced?, the terrorists?  NONE of the above … only YOU and I and all sensible law-abiding people would be affected by your “ban”.  A new elicit, uncontrollable, and unregulated “gun sales” industry would be created and the criminals and the nuts would have free-reign.  ANYONE who wanted a gun would get one anyway … except that no one would be licensed or trained.   If “banning” guns makes sense to you … you must be intent upon “politicizing” this tragedy … just like the thoughtless  Democrats.  PROHIBITION was an excellent example of useless politicizing of important issues by thoughtless politicians intent upon creating the impression they “care” more than the rest of us.

    • Whackajig

      How has the government’s ban on other things worked?  When we had prohibition, did the drinkers cease drinking?
       
      Only a pure idiot would believe that people crazy enough to commit mass murders would not find access to high capacity magazines.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Whackajig I agree and they made fun of Sarah Palin for saying “:how’s that hopey changy thingy workin for ya?” truer words were never spoken

    • freebirds

      @calling all leaders

    • wodrp

      What do you consider a high-capacity magazine? 
       
      How many ‘unarmed citizens’ do you think would try to apprehend a shooter while reloading?

  • joer1

    While providing armed protection in our schools seems like a good idea, I don’t think we need a paid armed force necessarily.  I think all teachers and administrators who wish to train and arm themselves, should be allowed to do so and perhaps the district could pay for the training …. for their own protection and the protection of their students.  We provide armed protection for the politicians … certainly our kids deserve it as well.

  • joer1

    While providing armed protection in our schools seems like a good idea, I don’t think we need a paid armed force necessarily.  I think all teachers and administrators who wish to train and arm themselves, should be allowed to do so and perhaps the district could pay for the training …. for their own protection and the protection of their students.  We provide armed protection for the politicians … certainly our kids deserve it as well.  Passing laws against guns is not only against our Second Amendment rights but, it would be even less effective than PROHIBITION.  Only the criminals and the mentally diminished would then be armed.  How can this make sense to anyone except the most deranged politicians.

  • Richard Vandervort

    I think it’s only right that when Obama and the rest of our government shows in the act of good faith disarmament of their security people can we also feel safe in doing the same.
    We need to truly look at the ones that committ these acts ald get them help before do these unthinkable crimes.
    Look at the pictures of the people that go out doing things like the killing of innocent children and teachers, They all seem to have that Deer in the headlights glare about them that should tell you they need help now.
    Allowing open carry firearms for teachers and other faculty members should be the first choice and open carry of legal gun owners should be next.
    Ft. Hood should have said it all because trained fighting men and woman disarmed on base were just as vulnerable as these children were and that’s pure facts.
    To disarm only makes you an easyer target to the Nut’s and the Criminals in life.

    • Whackajig

      @Richard Vandervort
       I will surrender my guns right after ovomit disbands the Secret Service

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Whackajig  @Richard Vandervort  never surrender my gun rights. Not until they pry them out of my dead cold hands.

  • http://shatterdmen.com/ Shattered Men

    “Why do Democratic politicians, who receive the taxpayer-funded protection of armed security, want to keep women and children from being protected by armed security?”
    As the director of Shattered Men, a ministry for abused MEN (and half the victims of domestic violence are MEN) I am tired of almost everyone thinking only women and children need protection from violence. In fact, my son was a victim of DV and when he tried to get an order of protection the judge said “men do not need protection” Yes men may be responsible for most murders but women kill more of children then do men. Although we hear that more women die at the hands of their husband or boyfriend, but this does not take into account the “Black Widows” and I think there are far more of them then we realize. Women are often not charged for the same things men are.

    • http://shatterdmen.com/ Shattered Men

      I think that if we research it, we will find that most of the mass murderers and serial killers came from single mother fatherless homes yet society is producing and encouraging these same types of homes more and more.
      If we want to stop these senseless killings, include GOD in the public square, Get HIM back in our schools, in our homes…and YES, in our CHURCHES! Stop serving cotton candy and get back to Bibical principals.
      Most of all, we need to value ALL our people and let our boys and girls know they are different from each other and that we value that difference!

  • http://shatterdmen.com/ Shattered Men

    I can understand the author’s mindset on this, it is the same mindset we see all over including our churches. Proverbs tells us that it is better for a man to live in the wilderness then to live in a mansion with an abusive woman, not once but three times yet every “Christian” ministry for domestic violence has the tradtional feminist domestic violence industry stats, that 95% of the abuse victims are women and this is hog wash.
    The Violence Against Women Act only protects women and it even encoruages women to make false accusations against men for abuse by giving perks for doing so. It does all of this at the expense of innocent men.
    Millions of boys have grown up to be adults under this very misandric law and have grown up hearing that men are evil while women are all but saints. They see that all the evils of society are at the hands of men and they often hear this in our churches so that these boys grown up thinking things are hopeless because they are male. Hopeless people become dangerous people.

  • jude83268949

    OMG I hear noise at my back door and glass breaking as it hits the tile floor, I’m alone in bed upstairs, working on my laptop, no phone upstairs, do I go downstairs to see if someone is breaking in and then call 911 or do I stay up here where I’m safe and they don’t know I’m here, do I get my shotgun out and wait upstairs where it is safe, I hear footsteps on the stairway, he is coming up,  no place to hide,  the shotgun is loaded so I take it out and return to my bed in the dark part of the bedroom, I hear the bed room door open near the stairs, then the next door bedroom,   I hear my door latch turn and open, I can see his shadow, i’m sitting up in bed, hall light does not cast light in this part of bed room……….he walks to my bed. I’m shaking, I shoot until my shotgun is empty and he falls across my bed. 
    Last year my  children said I should give up my shotgun, they said I had no need of a gun, no one attacks a woman over 60 in her home.

    • Sukhotai

      @jude83268949 What a crappy shotgun…a single round from a 12 Ga will send him backwards… IF you are going to be inventive with stories, at least be accurate with the weapon and it’s capability… just saying.

      • Gunner 81

        @Sukhotai  @jude83268949 Sukhotai, you obviously watch too many movies and have never fired a shotgun and have never seen a person hit by .00.. A blast from a 12ga with 00 Buck will not send a man backwards.  As a Vet having used a shotgun on MANY occasions  I will tell you it just doesn’t work like that. Sorry bud you need to get out of your mother’s basement and stop telling people what they need to do.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Sukhotai  @jude83268949 stead of disbelieving her why not just listen to the message?

    • Whackajig

      @jude83268949
       Your husband won’t forget his keys again will he?

  • LGreen311

    When it comes to the anti-gun crowd there is no middle ground, their single and only goal is the complete disarmament of the entire populace. Unfortunately they think this will ensure their safety, when in fact it will do exactly the opposite. The only people who are affected by gun laws are the law abiding citizens. Felons, the mentally ill and habitual drug users are already barred from purchasing firearms, however these laws have yet to stop any determined felon who desires a gun from obtaining one. Further just who is it that is going to decide which rifles are ‘assault rifles’ and which ones are not? The simple fact is this, any firearm can be an assault weapon, because until such time as a person uses that weapon in the commission of an assault is the point that the weapon becomes the ‘assault weapon’. Pick up a gun catalog, check the index and tell me exactly where you find the section for ‘assault rifles’, because it simply does not exist. The very term ‘assault weapon’ was and is a creation of the anti-gun lobby, and we already know, since good old Rahm Emmanuel stated “never let a crisis go to waste”, that the liberal anti-gun groups are more than willing to exploit the death of such innocents as were the victims in CT. I would perhaps question the logic of Mr. Lanza’s mother in trying to bond with her mentally challenged son through firearms, as this was not likely to result in a good outcome at some point in the future.  Sort of similar to attempting to bond by teaching the child to build bombs or any other dangerous activity. In the mothers defense however, there was NOTHING illegal about the firearms that she owned (unless there is some state law in CT that limits magazine capacity, such as in NY, CA and a few other states that restrict magazines to a max of 10 rounds), and since I’m neither from nor have any plans of traveling to CT I don’t feel any need to research their state laws.. The MSM keeps trying to compare semi-automatic rifles with the rifles the military use, and granted they may look alike, however anyone who knows anything about firearms knows there is a HUGE difference between the military version (fully automatic or burst fire selectable) and the ones readily available to the public (semi-automatic), but I realize the anti-gun crowd fail to educate themselves and they really could not tell you the differences for the most part. Fully automatic weapons are also available to the public, but the federal government has made the cost and time as prohibitive as possible to deter a good many of the gun owners, with the extensive background checks, and then the renewal of permits to possess these weapons, combined with the high cost of ammunition for these weapons keeps most normal people from bothering with owning one, the same goes for a silencer. The process will take a minimum of 3 months to get the approval and needed permits to obtain these items, and will also require the expenditure of several hundred dollars and further the media always attempts to compare the body armor that is available to the public as being the same as what law enforcement and military have, which is again putting forth information that is simply untrue (look up bullet proof vests, and you will soon find that those of the highest quality are ONLY available to LEOs and Military Personnel). The only way an individual is going to obtain the same level of protection as the police or military use is either by theft or you would have to make it yourself, which if you know what your doing is not that difficult.  The anti-gun crowd also refuses to acknowledge that the ‘Clinton assault weapon ban’ did nothing to really lower violent crime rates, however according to FBI stats, in the past 10 years violent crime is down 15.5%, which is the period after the ‘assault weapons ban’ ended and states embraced the Right-to-Carry and Concealed Carry permits.  See FBI data for 2011 (most recent available) located at ‘http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/violent-crime/violent-crime’ . The facts are there, violent crimes have decreased by 15.5% over the last 10 years and it certainly was not due to restricting firearms ownership, it was through the expansion of armed and trained citizens. Criminals have a much greater fear of an armed citizen that (would be victim) than they have of the police, again this was in the government stats that were the result of interviews with inmates in prison on violent offenses, but I’m tired of doing your research for you, so educate yourself before you make asinine statements such as ‘the NRA has blood on their hands” for if that is true, then the liberals have just as much blood on their hands as well, for every unborn child that is aborted everyday in this country, but they seem to be just fine with those murders, since they consider it a right to choose or reproductive freedom for women, the fact is it is still the murder of an even more defenseless victim than the ones selected by Mr. Lanza.

    • ff_emt

      @LGreen311 this would be MUCH easier to read if broken into paragraphs; folks might be more inclined to read all of it.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @ff_emt  @LGreen311  Be kind when people have so much to say and they have been called every name in the book for their opinion it is easy to get going.

    • http://lastrestance.com/ Freedom_Road

      @LGreen311 You are absolutely right.  The only way to combat this is to have citizens involved in the solution!  Which means that when we are out living our lives when confronted with such violence which can be anywhere citizens can respond immediately to stop a threat.  We cannot afford to hire nor do we desire to have police everywhere we go 24/7/365.  Only citizens willing to be trained such as when our country was founded, can stop these threats where and when they begin.  Government will never be the solution nor do we want to become slaves of the state.  Pistol free zones need to be abolished as they are only defense free zones.

    • kmilliorn

      @LGreen311 –one of the best-written, well-reasoned, & documented posts I have seen on this or any site. Thank you.

  • smdares44

    Well, I might imagine because like the Narcissist Sociopath Psychotic Idiot Illegal Alien Muslim Mulatto clown – in – chief, NO DIMLIB has a BRAIN!
     
    fmr LCDR MC USNR NUKE

    • Deborah Flynn

      @smdares44 so how did he get a second term? I don’t know 1 person that actaully voted for him

  • http://ct.metrocast.net/ infidel81

    Don’t tell the mentally deficient libs, but Bill Clinton supported COPS in School, A program very similar to what the NRA talked about in their press conference. Go back to 2000 and look it up. Thank you Jeff Dunetz for the article I just read at “America Conservative2Conservative.

  • freebirds

    I happen to be a survivor of a brutal attack. And if it were not for my legally registered hand gun i wouldn’t be here to write this. “Folks” guns do save lives. They saved mine. I’m a plumber and i consider my gun as valuable now as any other tool one might find in my tool box. And as for a smaller clip. I don’t think so. If I’m under attack I want as many rounds as possible without having to be concerned about reload. Reload time is when i would be most vulnerable.

  • what up

    There are two ways to enslave a nation…one is by sword…the other is by debt !

    • JohnFellie

      @what up Your RIGHT and ovomit is trying to both at the same time plus any other way he can screw this Nation and Citizens.But if he ever really tries to get our guns,well I know what I won’t do and I think there are a few million other folks that feel the same way.

  • Eli Jones

    When guns are outlawed, only criminals and Obama’s jack booted thugs in FEMA & the ATF will have guns. This article says what I have said for years. The gun grabbing politicians surround themselves with people with guns but don’t want you to have the same protection. We Patriots should demand that the gun grabbing politicians be disarmed. I can hear their outrage over that now!

  • RobertLeePrinz

    The b hussein obama & democrat creed is “Don’t do as I do but do as I say”.

    • Deborah Flynn

      @RobertLeePrinz OBAMA doesn’t want any part of the constitution and here’;s a clue he was NEVER a constitutional professopr in a law school. BIG lie. He was a part time filler and was naver in the posiition he claims he was. He knows zip about the constitution he has been a a liar since he started school. Either he was lying that he was AMERICAN BORN HER and applied as a foreign student [had to show a passport] to get frree education OR he Lied when he applied for President eligiblity and he wasn’t born here.EITHEr way ONE time it was a lie, . take you poison pick one but it can’t be both. AFter that the rest is total lies.

  • Walter Han

    We have some good presidents in our past. However basically only one president who believed in the Constitution. That was Ronald Reagan. Mr. Reagan put the Constitution to the highest level and did not try to dismantle it or to rewrite it. He loved this country like so many do, it is when these liberals get power and they want more power and believe they are some “chosen one”. Go see “Americas Finest Hour” by Ronald Reagan and you will hear the true meaning of being an America. And what our country fought for and our men and women died for defending democracy. Bring Reagan back into our culture and we just may have a better chance, America must put a Conservatine into the white house, either democrat or republican. Just so happens, 100% of democrats are liberals.
    Go to http://www.//finesthr.com or FB America’s Finest Hour and you will better understand how we might save our country

  • NunnyahBiz

    If holder, and the rest of the treacherous cowards in our Justice dept., would actually do the job We pay them to do There would be no criminals murdering children. They would be incarcerated, or executed.
    The laws are there, OBEY THEM AND USE THEM!!!
     
    But, it is quite clear that the criminals infesting ALL 3 BRANCHES of our gov’t. are just as criminally insane as the criminals that murder children & other living beings! They can no longer be trusted & MUST be eradicated from our society at all costs!
     
    WHEN GOOD PEOPLE ARE CONFRONTED BY EVIL AND DO NOTHING, ONLY EVIL WILL PREVAIL!
     
    The cowards in power refuse to confront evil and this IS the result of their refusal!!!

  • gypsy314

    Democrats are a one way party there way or no way. Our schools need one law to be removed from the books and the coward killers will not dare go against the chances someone will shoot back. Gun free zones kill. Call our leaders and demand this law goes away so our children will live.

  • COLVIN LANEY

    ALL I WANT TO KNOW FROM ALL THE ANIT GUN PEOPLE IS—–WHAT PRICE DO YOU PUT ON THE LIFE OF YOUR  CHILDREN AND MINE?   GO AHEAD ANSWER ME—WHAT PRICE DO YOU PUT ON THESE LITTLE ONES LIVES?   IF YOU HAVE A OUNCE OF COMMON SENSE YOU CANNOT PLACE A PRICE OF THEIR LIVES THERE FORE WE MUST PROTECT THEM AND PLACE ARMED TRAINED PERSONS BETWEEN THEM AND THE BAD GUYS AS THE BAD GUYS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A WEAPON!!!!   BE HONEST, YOU CANNOT DISAGREE UNLESS YOU ARE A SATAN WORSHIPPER—-ARE YOU?????????????

    • Deborah Flynn

      @COLVIN LANEY  I’m actually all for having retired marines and servicemen guard the schools, that would provide jobs at a very reasonable cost. Lose one useless administrator or union teacher it would cover the cost of three of them.. The cost has been determined to be 4 cents per hour per child at a cost per year of $64. I;d believe that you would be able to get community support for that. I’d sponsor a child wouldn’t you?

  • Kangeroo

    Why?  Because liberals are so self-absorbed and “special” they actually think their own armpits smell good.

  • CamilleGiglio

    While I sometimes wish the elected officials were watched much more carefully, putting armed guards in all
    Schools, churches or legislatures will not prevent more mayhem. It is the wrong solution to a problem of moral decay and the indoctrination of students to a new world of humanistic morality. Get rid of the NEA and all the so-called education foundations that are re-making education into a tool of political change.

    • wodrp

      @CamilleGiglioYou are wrong in your statement.  While it won’t prevent all mayhem, it will prevent some.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @wodrp  @CamilleGiglio ou can never legislate evil out of a society better to be better armed and shoot to kill. Forget prison. I have a good friend who lives in Saudi Arabia. They like Americans  a whole lot, I was treated with such kindness and respect, I’ve been there. IF anyone disrespects an Amnerican they are arreested, if they think about terrorism? Whisked off the street and never seen or heard from again. I am not anti Muslim I have many Muslim friends. They are really pretty conservative too. They don’;t want to take over the world with terror they want to be like us Free and Capitalists. They love business and making money. Sure they have some differnt cultutral differences but the reality is Just like we have ugly American Liberals they have terrorist extremeists. No Conservative likes Meyham. FYI they do think we are stupid about allowing our kids to get so out of control. They think children should be well educated and respectful. They don’t think kids should have so many things they feel they will be given everything. Even their Royalty the kids have to work in the family businesses before they get anything, they have to earn it. At least that is Saudi Arabia I don’t knowabout those scarey flea infested theocratic hell holes.

    • smokinscope

      @CamilleGiglio And then tell school admin that we will discuss their funding in venues that allowconcealed carry (so we are able tto defend ourselves from liberal madmen)

    • Deborah Flynn

      @CamilleGiglio First stop rewriting history like Obama did calling Muslims our forefounders and we are not a Christian country.

  • patomalley

    I have the answer to gun control, let’s send all the Muslims back to whatever hellhole they came from with a democrat under each arm. That should clean most of the trash out of the country.

    • Deborah Flynn

      @patomalley hahahahah

  • anniesdad

    Hmmmmm? The libs throw a hissy fit when the head of the NRA wants to put armed guards in our schools but gee whizz doesn’t the POS in Chief have armed guards at his girls school (Secret Service)? Guess its like obamacare,you live by these rules and us asses that made the rules will live by different rules?

    • Patriot Dan

      @anniesdad What how dare you question the dictator in chief’s motives.

  • HowardPettyjohn

    Obama told his supporters that if they looked in one ear of a Republican they could see out of the other.  If you notice someone looking into your ear, beware it is a Democrat.  If they are cussing you out because you are too tall or too short they are liberals.  Instead of leaning over or climbing up on to something too see into your ear they tell you to lean down or climb up on something they are a Liberal Democrat.  If you do as they say you are a conservative Democrat.  If you can see in one ear and out the other you are a Democrat claiming to be a Republican.

    • http://aol.com/ davidtriplek

      @HowardPettyjohn
      William Buckley was once quoted:
      “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended that there are other views”

      • Deborah Flynn

        @davidtriplek  @HowardPettyjohn nah they just start calling you names.

  • NVRAT

    Get rid of the Liberals and there will be no mentally Ill people in our society. Pull the license of  MSNBC, NBC, CBS and CNN  and there goes four more groups potential killers or at least mental deviates. Problem solved.

    • Deborah Flynn

      L @NVRAT  like your style

    • NavyJR

      @NVRAT I like your thinking, but there actually ARE some forms of mental illness that are “equal opportunity” and hit conservatives too!  Now MEDIA sorts are actually TRAINED that way these days, and a couple of years ago, O was trying to add a tax for us to PAY for that training!

  • Laddie

    When citizens give up their right to bare arms they become subjects – pretty easy – why does Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi carry concealed weapons?  Are their lives any more important than anyone elses?

    • Deborah Flynn

      @Laddie course they are just ask them. They will tell thier minions that without them the eleitist class they wouldn’t know what was good for them. Start with Michelle and Stupid Bloomberg. they are sio worried about what we ingest . Then they walk out to their armoured cars with security details armed to the eye teeth. I know Bloomberg a bigger gypoicrite never walked the planet. He can go have liunch with Pelosi while their armed guards protect them

  • Patriot Dan

    Because unarmed civilians are subjects. (slaves) or worse yet targets  to you who aren’t familiar with history.
    Read up in the genocide chart. http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf

  • texaselect

    If my dogs looked like that skank liberal holding that sign, I would shave their azzez and teach them to walk backwards.

  • JoAnneWhite

    Our local schools have a full time guard now. After 4 years of duty our Sheriff did as he felt was right and needful and put a full time deputy sheriff on school patrol and a guard in the local schools. Our community has been in full agreement that this is an excellent idea with as far as I have heard, no one to disapprove the idea. Our children are the future. They are our treasure. Their lives are the focus and their safety is number one priority.In every school in America there is a threat to the safety and security of our students. Drugs, bullying, fights, and weapons are too much in the norm for people to close their eyes or focus  on banning or ignoring he facts. The rock song “Welcome To The Jungle”, by the old group Guns and Roses is well said. It is much as our schools are and as they have been being for many more years than we would like to admit. Our children must endure more now in this point in time than ever before in the History that is recorded or remembered. People must stop pointing to guns as the enemy when the enemy is clearly so much more.

  • RobertLeePrinz

    For b hussein obama & liberal democrats it’s the same old same old adage ” DON’T DO AS I DO ‘ DO AS I SAY. LIBERALS THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING WHEN IN REALITY THEY ARE THE DUMBEST PEOPLE ON EARTH ALSO THE MOST LYING SCUM ON EARTH. JUST WATCH ABC, NBC & CBS TV NO NEWS STATIONS IT’S EITHER NO NEWS ABOUT BENGHAZI OR BHO’ LIES THAT THEY BROADCAST. ALSO THAT A BUSHMASTER 223 RIFLE WAS USED IN THE SANDY HOOK SCHOOL MURDERS WHEN IT 1ST WAS BROADCAST THAT IT WAS FOUND IN THE TRUNK OF THE SUSPECTS CAR. DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS WANT PROTECTION WITH GUNS FOR THEMSELVES BUT THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE CITIZENS OF THE USA’ RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM CRIMINALS WITH THEIR GUNS. THEY DON’T WANT ARMED GUARDS PROTECTING OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN BUT THEIR CHILDREN ARE PROTECTED.WHEREVER THEY GO. THE 2 FACED DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS ELECTED BY IDIOTS & PROTECTED BY MAIN STEAM NEWS TV STATION IDIOTS.

  • budlangpapa

    Yep, when they give sling shots to their security details, I’ll agree to gun control.  Don’t count on either course of action.

  • locknload

    The NRA President was correct in arguing that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Sugesting that there be an armed policeman in every school is NOT the answer. It would be better to allow trained volunteers including off duty police to add security. Hardening the taget would also help. Bullet proof the entry door glass, make the access to schools like jeweler’s entries that convert to cages where those with Mr. Lanza-type intentions are stuck with no way in OR out when a panic button is hit. Doing these things still does not solve the problem any better than banning ARs or confiscation of weapons. This Nation, starting at the local level up must recognize that we have lost our moral way. We have turned away from God, lost our ethics, lost our culture – call it what you will. We need to see that fact first and then work on reversing it or you will be seeing more Newtown, CT and now more Webster, NYs in the news. Shooting firemen to death while they try to save life and property is almost as evil as what happened in Newtown 10 days ago.
     
    So let’s take some action locally. Let’s ask if we can post the 10 Commandments on the entry ways to our schools. Its a small thing but if our kids know those 10 simple commandments it might help stop the culture rot we are experiencing, thanks in part to the ACLU and the PC police among us.
     
    We are a Judeo Christian Nation founded on the principals taught in the Bible. Let’s turn back to God and maybe he’ll look out for us.

    • JohnFellie

      @locknload You are RIGHT in what you said “BUT”ovomit is NOT INTERESTED in anything the Citizens say or want.The ONLY REASON ovomit and the politicians want the Citizens UNARMED is so they can Do What Ever They Want to Who they Want When Ever They Want without any fear of any Citizen shooting back.The folks in this Country have got to understand that ovomit THINKS he can become dictator of our Country,BUT I also feel he has a very big surprise coming and is just to ignorant to see it coming.This is the most important thing We The People have got to do is Remove all these Socialist Marxist Communist from our Government..

    • Deborah Flynn

      @locknload 
      What people forget is we have a NATIONAL CATHEDRAL not a national mosque or an athiest meeting hall. The Ten commandments were always our children’s moral compass. now kids see ADULTS screaming is violates their right [one or two big mouths] so they have zero respect for it. It isn;t religious per se` but it is a philosophy of values we are trying desparately hard to bury for the benefit of not offending a few.

    • Kangeroo

      @locknload
       You can’t force evil people to do that.

  • Ed Watson

    I remember (now I’m dating myself) when the Sheriff would deputize citizens to help catch bank robbers.  Plain ole citizens used their guns, got on their horse and headed out with the posse.  I’d be willing to bet that there would be willing teachers and administrators who would opt for training and “carry” while at on duty at school using school weapons.  These weapons, balistically ID’d, would be kept safe while no classes were in session.  Those “carrying” would be in plain clothes and thus not readily identifiable to a nut intent on mayhem.
    While our so-called leaders are making this happen keep a can of wasp spray handy.  It is cheap, available at the hardware store and legal NOW just like ant spray is but it will shoot a stream of irritating liquid some 20+ feet that would temporarily blind or at the least shock the nut giving some time to subdue the nut by other means.

    • NavyJR

      @Ed Watson They still do that; my local sheriff’s posse use jeeps these days mostly, but even Sheriff Joe’s still go out on horseback on occasion.

    • Newsel

      @Ed Watson
       You old fart….great idea…..:-)

    • SheilaAnn

      @Ed Watson Thanks for the tip. We have wasp spray but so far just for the wasps each year. I need to put it very handy..

    • DanielMelton

      @Ed Watson Before you think wasp spray will magically incapacitate, you’d best check the local availability of PCP/ ‘angel dust’ or the newer stuff like ‘bath salts’.  I’ve seen what PCP does.  Their strength is superhuman, rage is totally insane, and they don’t know they’re dead until you blow their heads off.  I’ve read that the new stuff is worse.

      • NavyJR

        @DanielMelton  @Ed Watson It IS worse than PCP/”angel dust”!  This stuff is literally burning brains out; so that all that’s function is is the brain stem and barely that, as they’re dying on their feet, but they become VERY SAVAGE; it’s what caused those reports of naked people attacking and eating other people in FL and MD last summer, and Daniel’s point is well taken; they DON’T know they’re dying, or respond to any sort of rational impulse!

  • AwakeningGiant

    Ed Watson’s comment on Wasp Spray is great advice.  As a former trainer on Pepper Spray I can state that most people can fight their way through the effects of Pepper Spray if they are determined enough.  Wasp Spray would be much more difficult.  Saying that, my protection weapon of choice is a shotgun as all you have to do is aim it down a hall and it will take out the intruder as well as lamps, pictures, etc.  The new handgun best for protection, in my opinion, is the “Judge” which shoots 410 rounds from a pistol.  A great weapon for closed environments such as a school because the rounds could reach much further than Wasp Spray, but would not go such a long distance as to endanger people outside of the immediate school grounds.

  • CamilleGiglio

    Nope, armed guards are still the wrong answer to solving the wrong problem. One needs to examine the school curriculum and new age objectives to understand that schools are instilling amoral, humanistic,i.e., self-serving values into the students. Meaning, those who won’t let me do as I please are the enemy and are holding me back. It’s my rights first and yours,..well, never. Whether charter schools, academies or comprehensive schools, they are well on their way to being re-designed to serve the public good, not the individual’s intelligence and personal growth. I think we also need to very closely examine the effects of contraceptives/steroids being used as birth control to see just what is happening to the child in the womb who does get to survive abortion. Chemicals have effects on the human systems. We have more children born with mental health issues, with disabling physical issues. Put that with the lack of moral and ethical training and you may begin to see the depth of the problems created through science. No guard, with or without a loaded weapon will “cure” these internal issues. If you want to really know how kids could become killers of kids just learn your history to see the numerous times neighbor has turned on neighbor and community against smaller communities. Are we merely to become law abiding because we have a gun aimed at us all the time? Are we incapable of self-control anymore?

    • Newsel

      @CamilleGiglio
       In the mean time lets make sure, aside from this touchy feely stuff, that someone is there to protect.
       
      And do not believe for one moment that this will not be the end of it. Why do we have a TSA et al…? If we need guards at Social Security centers why not schools?
       
      How about the 11 armed guards at BHO’s kids school. Why not my kids  school?

    • evervigilant

      @CamilleGiglio ,
      I agree that private guards are largely useless (as proven at Columbine), and government “officers” and “agents” must absolutely be avoided, And I agree with your assessment of the root cause of the problem. And, indeed we must reclaim our government, re-establish the rule-of-law, secure our borders, deport hostiles, re-establish lawful money, reverse the assault on American culture, repair the damage, and begin rebuilding our nation. But, in the mean time, we must diligently and prudently provide for our children’s protection.
       
      I believe it is prudent for volunteer parents, teachers, and administrators (who all have a stake) to provide armed protection – after being vetted by the Sheriff and trained by the NRA. The purpose is NOT to discipline the students. Rather, it is to protect them from homicidal maniacs who have demonstrated a propensity to slaughter them – presently without opposition.

    • Deborah Flynn

      @CamilleGiglio 
      Camille I happen to agree partially with you. No the answer is not necessarily armed guards but we need to get away from Liberalism not ban gunns. When people have no moral compass and irresponsibility is a “right” What can you expect to happen? When the government advertizes how to get on the dole and people are vilified because they have morals and conservative self releint lives, when kids think the Fiscal cliff is somewhere in Colorado and Obamaphones are a “right” then we are in trouble. When parents let their kids dress anyway they want because it is good froi their self esteem and you can’t have a kid fail because thats bad for it , we don’;t stand a chance. When the Ten Commandments our moral compass is said to be exclusive and wrong what do you expect? It isn’t the guns it is the slide into liberalism that has kids completely adrift with no one or nothing to make them stay in line. We also have a mental health problem. There are many reasons why we have this anarchy none of them from conservative values.

    • Richnjsouth

      @CamilleGiglio
       I agree with you about  the useless curriculum of today.  They teach nothing.  The kids come out stupid.  Nothing is taught to create a rational, self reliant/responsible citizen.  Schools were meant to not only expose students to various subjects for their general knowledge, to comprehend the past, how we got where we are, who came before us, to read and write effectively and perform basic math computations in our head or on paper., but to instill civility, discipline, social norms and respect.   Today it’s all brainwash and manipulation.  They dont even teach “handwriting” or cursive as it’s known.  They have done more damage to kids since the age of PC or mid 1970′s  that is reflected in the diminished output, bad decisions and all the drug, behavorial abuses.  I also add another possibility to the mix…….some of the vaccinations of the last 50 yrs, although in some cases like polio helped end an epidemic……..other school required and routine vaccinations may have cause neural damages that we havent addressed.  as per Dr. Harris Coulter.  I further think most of this destruction was planned and premeditated on a political basis.  When old Kruschev pounded his shoe on the desk in the UN……stating “We will bury you”……….this is what he meant……internally through your children and institutions……….and so far they are winning……..look at the wretch in the white house and the rotten henchmen he hired as dept heads and czars……..a disgrace and part of the Soros “hate American” funded plan.

  • ronalford

    The answer to your last question is yes, without Jesus.

  • kdauksch

    Any gun control legislation should include restrictions to Politicians armed guards.  And if they don’t do it!   WE DON’T!

  • Victoryman

    100% ccorrect.

  • Deborah Flynn

    had Christmas eve dinner tonight with friends. One guy a Liberal said  right to me You’re a conservative right? I said yes pretty far right of my Husband as well. His answe r” “Then you are Ignorant”   I bristled and said this is not the time or place for insults.he asked my why I wouldn’t talk to him. I said well it’s a bit hard to start an adult conversation when the first sentance is name calling………..he said “i don’t understand why we can’t all find common ground and talk to each other. ” and they think I’m ignorant? Geeeeeeesh

    • Cliffystones

      @Deborah Flynn I’d hate to meet your enemies!
       
      We have a friend in California who said “We don’t have concealed carry here and we don’t have those shootings (referring to Aurora, we live near Denver).  I explained to her how the theater was a “no carry zone” so only a criminal would bring in guns.  I also told her that CA did have concealed carry, but you had to grease the right politicos to get a permit.  It’s a damn shame that people still form opinions based on the LSM when there is so much information available elsewhere.
       
      Merry Christmas!

    • Kissitgoodbye

      @Deborah Flynn /. this guy obviously has no stop gap between his brain and his mouth. On top that, he suffers from a social deficit. No wonder he’s a liberal!

    • HenryMiller1

      @Deborah Flynn Those of the Left truly don’t understand anything about self-reliance.  Some psychological thing, maybe–perhaps they miss their nannies.  Regardless, they seem always to interpret their lack of understanding to our ignorance.  Odd…

      • Deborah Flynn

        you are right they are worried about Self esteem not learning from error and mistakes.  When my children failed I didn’t berate them I said “ok  what did you learn from that?” the libs say “That teachers an idiot! What a jerk! Oh that Mean teacher, you were perfect, let’s call the ACLU, it’s their fault you failed “

    • ronalford

      @Deborah FlynnDemocrats are not equiped to have an intellegent conversation so you would be taking advantage of him.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @ronalford  @Deborah Flynn HAHA That was an excellant response loved it!

    • JoeZimmerman

      @Deborah Flynn
       You  should  have    poured  gravy  over  hid  head ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    • Richnjsouth

      @Deborah Flynn
       Funny……….we all have left wingers amongst family or friends……..and they seem to become more ignorant and boorish during holidays.  Sometimes if we dont know someone at a party, they come out of “left field” with their leading comments just to make thinking conservatives “react”, make you mad then they use the reaction to make you seem hostile.  Libs are all trained out of the same nasty playbook.  They are selfish, liars, mostly stupid on issues, the relation of economic events and like to twist history.  And of course they will quote all kinds of sources to appear intelligent.  Some of the most intelligent people  slapped on a swatstika or a hammer/sickle arm band………left wingers, and the more radical hard core socialists/marxists are expert in diversion , drawing out sympathy from diverse groups……..because who doesnt have a peeve or complaint about anything today…..then they direct the blame to their opposition.

      • William Wallace

        @Richnjsouth  @Deborah Flynn Yes they do.  They come up out of nowhere and throw some inflammatory comments at you, not a question, not a civilized statement, but just straight up accusatory statements like how stupid you are or are you happy now that people are dead… stupid stuff like that which I just ignore or ask where did they come up with that and make them defend their statements.

      • SheilaAnn

        @Richnjsouth  @Deborah Flynn I got an e-mail from the staunch democrat that was so proud she voted for Obama early. She will never hear from me again..I cannot stomach such ignorance. I would put no stock into anything she had to say after knowing how she voted. And so proud that she did…you know, because she has always voted democratic….

    • Evermyrtle

      @Deborah Flynn The difference in the way conservatives talk the phrases they use that are so much different for the left. The lefr have their favorite phrases like racist, ignorant, idiot, stupid, when the disagree with no intention to try to understand where we are coming from. Conservatives usually will say, how  so? why do you feel like that, I don’t agree. Most of us are seldom vicious spiteful, mean terms or comments.

    • JohnFellie

      @Deborah Flynn I “had” some friends that are way left liberals and I put up with some stuff they said or did BUT when they said they wanted the government to call in all guns I simply told them when the scat hits the fan NOT to come to my home for protection.I haven’t seen or heard from them sense.They most likely will be the first to be loaded on the ovomit box cars in route to the re-education camps ovomit has for all citizens weather they voted for him or not.People don’t seem to understand that VOTING has Consequences.

  • NavyJR

    @DeborahFlynn:  I believe that would have been the appropriate time to bring out the crayons and construction paper and drawn him some pictures, but then I have a bit of a nasty streak when people behave like that.  I do understand your problem, and admire your restraint.

  • Robert Anderson Sr

    Yes; I used to be on the Sheriff’s Dept. and also The Posse and how we were utilized for different duties!

  • Deborah Flynn

    Were any of you aware that Malia And Sasha ateend a school where there are a dozen armed to the teeth guards. He wants less for our children? What a hypocrite.

    • Rose Palmer

      Hypocrite is being kind. He is far worse than a hypocrite!

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Rose Palmer I know but I’m not a liberal so I don’t have that vicious streak

        • wmagg

          @Deborah Flynn  @Rose Palmer Not to mention a complete disregard for the the rights and lives of others as is the liberal way.

  • Richnjsouth

    The rich libs in hollywood or politics all expect to have armed security protection, but refuse to allow the same for those who live in risky areas, are older, for schools or any circumstance that could preclude a nut from causing these kind of disasters.  They are 2 faced frauds..that like to dictate to the masses.  The libs and their judges let out all the loons onto the streets with the provision they take their medication so they dont flip out in public.  The politicians, judges and sociologists are responsible for their wrong decisions.  Why do they keep letting out psychos onto the streets as well as putting criminals on probation after multiple crime?  Normal people need guns to protect themselves at home or outside, when the threat is stacked against them.  The semi auto rifle is also needed when the government fails to protect citizens or insurrection occurs.  This was evident back during the LA riots……as well as earlier riots.  Many people protected their property and selves from gangs, anarchists and terrorists burning and looting.  Even the Katrina storm proved the need for personal guns……when looters and criminals ran amuck.  But in New Orleans the criminal mayor and PD, instead of assisting the public out of the city, decided to round up privately owned weapons, which was deemed illegal in court.  Nagin and his corrupt PD should have been locked up.  This is the true color of the liberal in charge.  Because governments at various levels become more corrupt and anti citizen, it will become more necessary to retain personal protection.  Dont the left wingers find it odd………twice when Obama was elected, gun sales and ammo went up??? Or after a mass murder the same?

  • Richnjsouth

    The Sandy Hook murders are now seeming to be the lack of Lanza’s mother who owned the guns to use common sense.  In time we might see she had mental problems as well, not financial as such, they seemed to live well, but other issues.  Her owning the guns was not the problem.  The fact that the nut son was able to get them was the issue. Those kind of weapons should be locked all the time, especially with any younger kids, especially with a nut in the house with problems. She is at fault, unfortunately causing her own death, since she was already preparing to have the son comitted to a mental faciiltiy.  If they were locked, maybe he still could have gotten to them, but if not locked, she was negligent.

  • Deborah Flynn

    Now we have to educate them on WHY

  • George

    I don’t think we need more government ‘security’.  That’s inviting more of the devil to your home.  We need to do something with:
     
    A: Psychos
    B: The entertainment industry (especially video gaming)
    C: The media
    D. This administration
     
    Guns don’t kill people. Psychos and governments do.

    • NavyJR

      Well, I agree in substance, except with your last statement, and the ORDER in which you listed the threats.  Ever read or see  either of the movies “The Manchurian Candidate”?  If not, I highly recommend it.  One from the ’50s with Laurence Harvey, and an update with Denzel Washington, either is excellent and gets the point across, if you don’t have time for the book.  You need to flip your list over and START with the government, then the media, which includes the entertainment industry, and LAST are the FEW sick people who are violent  toward others, and are rare!  There’s an agenda in play, that is being brought to its fulfillment,, in OUR lifetimes!  Our GOVERNMENT is the greatest of the threats you listed, but THEY take orders from those above them in the chain too!

      • DanielMelton

        @NavyJR The incidents of muslim terrorist attacks in the United States remains exceedingly rare, but do not count on this to remain the case.

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton I don’t for an instant!

        • Richnjsouth

          @DanielMelton  @NavyJR
           They are subversive……..like sneaky, hidden detractors.  They use our freedoms and laws to plant themselves in our cities.  There are 2 types the enabler and the terrorist.  The first one, works, maintains a residence etc, and provides housing, phones, cars and money to the terrorist when a plan is hatched. In quiet times they incrementally worm they way into the society and communities…..just like they arrogantly tried to build a mosque near the WTC site.  That was a test to see how far they could go and that time they got resistance……but meanwhile they have hundreds of mosques in the city.  They keep trying to weasel their way into our customs and laws.

        • NavyJR

          @Richnjsouth  @DanielMelton I think my friend Dan will remember me saying this elsewhere, but LET them BUILD their mosque there, and THEN tell them how Wall Street got its name and why; NYC will get a nice shiny new community center, CHEAP!

        • DanielMelton

          @Richnjsouth  @NavyJR Since there’s only 1% or so of the muslim population that are radical terrorists (according to the muslim apologists) , we’re supposed to tolerate their insularity, and refusal to integrate into American society until they stage a riot or some other violent activity.
          I’m for feeding ‘em to pigs, dead or alive.  That should get the attention of prospective terrorists in the same manned that Pershing did it in th Philippines.

        • JohnFellie

          @DanielMelton  @Richnjsouth  @NavyJR I like your way of thinking.I have washed all my ammo in pig blood just to make sure my ammo was clean enough.

        • DanielMelton

          @JohnFellie  @Richnjsouth  @NavyJR
          I’ll just lube my ammunition with lard

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton  Well at least you learned from a good teacher.  Many, at least in the middle east will “go along to get along” and don’t really believe in it, but would still be dangerous; and then there are those FEW who truly will fight against it.

        • DanielMelton

          @NavyJR The enemies we have HERE who are destroying our own economy are what worry me most.

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton I WISH it was ONLY the economy they were after; but look at what’s happened to our culture!  That’s not simply a “generational difference”!  It’s a DELIBERATE destruction of our values and morals.  And add to that what they’re doing to our Constitution and the Creator-given rights of our Declaration it guarantees!  I don’t know what this place IS now, but it hasn’t been “America” for quite awhile!

        • DanielMelton

          @NavyJR This started back in the wilson administration.  It’s finally reached critical mass.  Reversing the change will be both bloody and painful.

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton OUR part in it, yes; but it was going before we were even colonies here, yet, in Europe, and to some extent, western Asia as well..

    • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

      The problem with the current society is we are being dumbed down it a big, big way. You can start with Hollywood putting nothing but trash on TV, brighthouse want’s me to add to my 100 channels when I only see that there are 3 quality channels out of 100. I will not add any money if they can not get the first 100 right. Like, oboma, if you tell a lie enough they will begin to think that it is true.

      • Rose Palmer

        @ssilv48 Other than a very few, all of Hollywood celebs?? are so out of touch w/ reality. The only one w/ brains is Clint Eastwood, he says it lke it is, does’t give a damn who cares or likes it. My hero.

    • Richnjsouth

      Absolutely, these horrendous events…….are just what the marxists and left wingers need to continue their attack on millions of law abiding citizens.  First they want to end the 2nd amendment, next its the 1st…….then 4th……and on and on………this hack has shown his incompetence over and over, but he gets up in the public and says what sounds “reasonable”……..then behind the scenes does the opposite.  His programs and plans need to be thwarted in any way possible, delayed, unfunded, exposed and sidetrack.  Use the marxist tools to attacke this regime and their hacks.

      • Rose Palmer

        @Richnjsouth Just get him the hell out of office before he destroys America.

    • Deborah Flynn

      And we have all of the above in one administration:Pyschos: Pelosi and Reid with a dash of Barney Frank
      Entertainment industry: Several dozen at every Party Obama has
      The media: Slobbering love affair with the snake oil salesman
      This adminsistration: What administration? We have a comedy act

      • Rose Palmer

        It is more of a tragedy attack. How this person became our president is a catastrophe that will take years to fix.

    • SheilaAnn

      Yes, you have it right. The government is the big problem….

  • PatrickHenry1

    I have a lib friend at work. He is all about oslummer care. several weeks ago when I asked him why a health insurance law needs to include 16,000 irs workers his voice rose several octaves and he started spouting off about how Bush started the wars in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, failed economic policies, yada yada yada. When he was done I went back and asked the original question. To this day he has not answered the question.

  • Deborah Flynn

    They always evade questions when they jknow you are right and go to the Marxist handbook with left wing talking points. They are parrots without an original thought in their heads. I tried an experiment today on HP I made a omment that was ALL positive about Obama and then signed my name they never even read the post! They just started with the name calling and the denegrating snide remarks. When I pointed it out they said I was a right wing nut LOL> They are just plain stupid and ignorant

    • Evermyrtle

      @Deborah Flynn There is an organization calling it self “Right Wing” which I suspect is a far left outfit organized to make the true right look bad. We do not call our selves “right wing” we are just “right”.

  • Deborah Flynn

    right is right wrong is left.

  • Rose Palmer

    @I am getting a permit & buying a gun for my home to protect my family, my home & myself. I have not felt safe since since the present administration has been in office. As an American citizen, I have that right & am using it. I have absolutely no doubt or faith, this administration will NOT help anyone but themselves.

    • JohnFellie

      @Rose Palmer  @I Think about it Rose,do you really want to get a permit so the out of control government knows WHO YOU ARE and WERE YOU LIVE.Take a little hint buy from someone you know that won’t take down info about you to send to the feds.

      • Rose Palmer

        @JohnFellie I will think about it but God help anyone who tries to harm my children, grandchildren or me. We do not have a government today, we have a herd of very uninformed, uncaring, stupid people that are in it only for the status & money. America is more than tired of it.

        • ronalford

          @Rose Palmer  @JohnFellie
           Amen to that.

        • wmagg

          @Rose Palmer  @JohnFellie ok so what do YOU intend to do about it     I mean other than sit there and whine on you keyboard.
          Have you called your senator or congressmen. have you taken a stand and demanded that this criminal despot be remover from office,   well

        • cherokee_warrior

          @wmagg  @Rose Palmer  @JohnFellie
           Hello wmagg,
          not the person you responded to, but, every month, since February 2009, I have send the two Senators from Indiana emails, asking when are your going to do something about (zero)bama and his violations of the Constitution,  To date, neither have given me an aswer, instead I get some other response that has nothing to do with my question.
          And, when I call their offices, get a ‘litener’ who then tells me, I will inform the Senator of your call,  and that is that.;
          This sucker seems to have everyone ‘quaking in their boots’, why?

        • JohnFellie

          @cherokee_warrior  @wmagg  @Rose Palmer Cherokee warrior,I have been sending Emails Letters and calling these piss poor excuses in Washington four most of three and a half years. I found out that they had turned off their Emails, someone else opened their mail, and had their phone calls screened. They do not want to talk to  citizens that  do not agree with what they are doing to our Constitution or Country.They knew that ovomit was NOT Constitutionally eligible to hold the office,yet let him be sworn  into office.Not one politician be it a dombocrap or repubocrap have NOT done ONE THING TO STOP ovomit and let him run this Country into the ground.When WE THE PEOPLE take our Country back we need to REMEMBER WHO these politicians are to find out were their alliances are.Good luck getting in touch with them,maybe you’ll have better luck then I did.

        • NavyJR

          @cherokee_warrior I suspect it’s not him but the ones up the chains from him.  People who “step out of line out there tend to die; like JFK, Vince Foster, and many others we probably never even heard about or connected .

        • wmagg

          @cherokee_warrior  @wmagg  @Rose Palmer  @JohnFellie Don’t  feel bad I often get the same from mine, so I decided to attend a town hall meeting for one of them and to my surprise as I stood up to ask my question I was asked for ID. Upon providing the  requested ID I was promptly escorted out of the building and told that if I returned I would be placed under arrest.  remember I had not yet said a single word to anybody.
          So don’t think your alone but if you squeek up often sooner or latter they will have to grease the wheel.      As for why every one fears this despot  let  IT stand before me and we will see who is quaking in who’s boots.  I will with out any hesitation knock it on it’s ars.

        • NavyJR

          @wmagg  WOW!  Which state was that in ?  In AZ I’ve spoken face to face, one-on-one with my Rep to Congress, and to the Senate, shook hands with both, looked them in the eye, and no one asked a thing.  Also my state house reps, and I go to our city council meetings regularly, even work with an advisory committee for them.  We had a rally here on the Monday before election day, and almost everyone was here for that, all thee state and Federal Reps, even our state Secretary of State, who read from the {now brace yourself} the Bible, and at our Christmas lighting as well.We light up the whole courthouse square, not just a tree.

        • DanielMelton

          @wmagg      The soap box, the ballot box, and as a last resort, the cartridge box…….
           
          The first two have failed us.

        • wmagg

          @DanielMelton  I think your right,  the first two have failed us and as much as I hate to admit it We The People may not have any choice left.  One thing is for sure We can not trust OUR government to do what is in the best interest of the people of this nation.  They have their own agenda, and their plans for this nation DONOT include freedom or liberty or upholding their oath of office. May GOD steady my aim.

        • wmagg

          @NavyJR See I knew that when I left AZ years ago I would regret it
          Here in Colorado The meetings are held in Denver for the most part, that way Udall won’t have to answer to the people of the rest of the state for what he does to us here in the Springs. Perhaps if we had a Brewer or an Arpaio in this state we would have a real representative government in this state.  You got it good there   well except for all the illegals.

        • locknload

          @wmagg, @DanielMelton – as to your last line- “May GOD steady my aim.” I have 2 things toy say to you:
          1) God helps those who help themselves;
          2) Practice makes perfect.
          Now go do the right thing.

        • Rose Palmer

          I believe you hit the nail on the head. Scary, isn’t it? This is America but not the America it once was. I do not trust any of them nor believe one word they say. My remedy, don’t listen, read or watch thier canned speeches on TV.

        • Rose Palmer

          You got that right!

        • locknload

          Look for the content of their character. Had the American electorate doen that on 11/6/2012, Romney would be President next month. While I don’t think I like his politics, at least I know he is a good man with good Christian values and principals. He loves this country. I cannot say that of Mr. Obama.

        • DanielMelton

          @wmagg Remember, one shot and change positions.  Having someone to provide covering fire is good, but not always necessary.  A team of three or four snipers can keep an entire unit pinned down, and if things get too hot, fade away.  Wounding takes out 3 to 5, and provides additional targets if you’re patient.
           
          Take out their commo whenever possible.

        • DanielMelton

          @wmagg  Colorado was getting too Kalifornicated  for me back in 1993.  I moved up here to MW Minnesota

        • DanielMelton

          @locknload   A 3-9 power scope and a bipod help too.  You won’t believe how accurate a little Marlin model 60 can be when ya use a good scope.

        • NavyJR

          @wmagg There’s ALWAYS a fly in the ointment, isn’t there?  I’m up in Prescott, so Yavapai County seat, and the former territorial capital, which makes some difference, but Gosar is good about traveling around the state to his constituents when he’s here, and Flake, I’ll have to see, but he did campaign here a few times.  The ones from down in Phoenix, this is their home town, or the immediate area is, so they do come up more,   And our city council are accessible too. It’s better than most have it, especially now.  And we have a GOOD sheriff here too, hes just quieter about it than Arpaio.

        • NavyJR

          @wmagg  I’d heed Daniel’s advice on this stuff, if it makes any difference.

        • Deborah Flynn

          I like APAIO but I trhink a few more of the Illegals would just dissappear under someone wuieter with the same goals

        • NavyJR

          @Deborah Flynn Sheriff Masher does a FINE job of that; he moved some 3000 or them out in ’10 alone, from just ONE rural county.

        • Rose Palmer

          I don’t think he has them “quaking”, I firmly believe, all of them, minus a very few, are a bunch of idiots that don’t know what they are doing & simply follow the leader. The title means more to them than the job. I voted for McCain, a good, honorable, decent man. Things would be so different had he won..

        • Rose Palmer

          Forgot to add, I am not a child, I do not whine on my keyboard or anywhere else. When I can correct a problem I don’t think about it, I do it.!!!

        • Deborah Flynn

          I;m afraid that no one has the guts to put themselves out there against this despot

        • Richnjsouth

          @locknload
           Correct……but remember we have a dumbed down populace.  They elected this marxist…….not because the women and 20 somethings thught he was qualified and capable.  they elected him as a pop culture vote……first (half) black, younger, smoked dope, drank, listens to rap and portrays all the social nonsense this group aspires to.  He is the most incompetent, empty headed mess to ever be given this seat.  He has no financial, economic intelligence, has no use for anything American, hates the founders, hates the history, hates all forms of American business, not just the greedy or bad operations.  He is an all consuming marxist, just hasnt used the military to kick in doors.  I blame the stupid youth and majority of women that reelected this bum.  The shame is we all have to suffer, high taxes, high inflation, no jobs for anybody, open borders, continued energy issues, continued foreign affairs disasters.   This dumbing down has been in the works since the 70′s for the most part, but the first planting of it started right after WWII, with various east european plants sent by the old Soviet union to our colleges, govt and business.  As a nation we confuse open arms and freedom to the world with protecting ourselves from infiltrators, spies and theives.  Now we have Soros……..a miserable pig who made billions within the capitalist system to then turn on free nations.  Yet we abide his right to choke and destroy us…….very stupid.

        • Russian55

          @Richnjsouth  @locknload Yes, our elections have dropped to the level of “American Idol.”
           
          Presidential candidates now appoear on Letterman, Leno and the Daily Show, but won’t go in front of a hard journalist with tough questions.
           
          Why should they?  The Presidency is no longer about substance as much as style.

      • Rose Palmer

        If there are that kind of people on here I will remove myself from this site.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @JohnFellie  @Rose Palmer Absolutely my warning is FLY under the radar. You can buy a shotgun without a permit. Take a page from the 30′s DoN:T let the government know more about you than you need to. They ARE BIG brother now.

    • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

      @Rose Palmer  @I Rose, you seemed to have forgotten the muslims…………..this current administration seems to help the muslims by the billions and hundreds of thousands he brought over her to help the congested muslim areas over in other countrys that your tax dollars are paying for. They help themselves and muslims????? Kinda throw’s a red flag???? Don’ t you think????

      • Rose Palmer

        Isn’t Obama a Muslim? That’s tells the story & is enough for me.

        • Richnjsouth

          @Rose Palmer
           Oh….no doubt.  He’s celebrated Ramadan at the white house..they sneak in some of his muslim brothers and have a ceremony.  The libs refuse to read Obama’s own words or listen to his statements. The guy had 2 muslim daddys, went to a madrassa……smells muslim to me.  He wears a ring…now his wedding ring that has an arabic inscription on it.  He has slipped up talking about his muslim religion.  I MEAN COME ON WHAT DOES IT TAKE? to convince these deluded left wingers as to what they thrust upon this nation is like the “children of the corn”.

        • NavyJR

          @Richnjsouth  I suspect, fear, that we’re going to find out before long; exactly what it will take; and that may well be our lives.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Richnjsouth  @Rose Palmer Refused to recognize The World Day of Prayer but hold a Muslim prayer in OUR WHITE HOUSE AND WE ALLOW IT AND DO NOTHING.

        • Rose Palmer

          The Liberals love Obama & will not beieve one word that is the truth about him. They are  living in a fantasy world & the rest of the sane people are suffering for it. We have a muslim running America.

        • Deborah Flynn

          @Richnjsouth  @Rose Palmer I don’t know what to think regarding his religion but he sure doesn’t act like a Christian with his secular views on abrotions. A lot of those guys act like the Bllack Muslims but they attend a “christian ” church? If you can call the Rev White a Christian. What a mess

    • Richnjsouth

      @Rose Palmer  @I
       You are correct.  I dont know what state you are in……some are strict, some less so, but if you are already “trained”, familiar with weapons……nothing to tell you…….if not …….get some practice/training and then secure it for your access only…..keep away from kids or anybody not authorized to avoid any problem…..stock up on some ammo…….and keep your mouth shut to people you do not know as to owning anything.  But also  depending on where you live, you can make a hobby by going to a range to target shoot.  Getting a rifle is easiest to clear, handguns a big tougher for some states.  There are various shotguns that are useful, some light weight rifles ……..and again you can use the rifles at the range……or shoot clays for practice with a shotgun.  Have fun, and be safe…….I agree that this admin is creating an unsafe environment…….and be aware they want to clamp down on weapons, ammo and anything to do with guns…..incrementally.  Feinstein, Lautenberg (my rat senator) and Schumer are real anti gun /2nd amend and will work endlessly to destroy our rights.

      • Rose Palmer

        Thak you for the advice. I am getting a permint asap & will protect my family, myself & if necessarey, my friends & neighbors. I am so sick of Obama & his motley crew, they have not helped America & will contionuie to destroy our nation if we allow it..

        • Richnjsouth

          @Rose Palmer
           We are the silent majority, and its too bad too many dummies got to vote and reelect this disgrace.   Ally yourself with others of similar sentiment .  The gun issue is actually becoming a “rights principle” and a test to our foundation and constitution.  These radical left wingers simply want to dissolve “how things are” , they are traitors, anarchists and tools of foreign elements and the UN. Look how the lefties judges and politicians release the “nuts” back into the public……..then blame guns…..like the bum that shot the firemen in NY… He did 17 yrs for killing his grandmother…….THEN THEY LET HIM OUT??? Lots of this garbage going on daily and it doesnt get coverage or any note.  We are being forced to deal with domestic nuts, then we have imported illegals running drugs, and people across the border, gangs, muslim terrorists hiding out and planning the next attack…….and these bums in DC rant about types of guns?  INSANE.

      • rockribbedrushy

        @Richnjsouth  @Rose Palmer 
        Funny you should mention Lausenburg and Chuckie Cheese Schumer, they were embroiled, but not embarassed in a tempest in a teapot some 15 or 20 years ago regarding some so-called armor piercing bullets.
         
        Chuckie:
        http://www.scfirearms.org/2ndamend/rhino.txt
         
        I seem to remember Fearless Frank had something to say about “cop killer” bullets in the early 90′s, but cannot find a trace of it.  Seems to me it was something along the lines of Black Talon/ Black Rhino confusion.
         
        Maybe you remember better than I do, eh Rich?
         
        Jersey seemed to have the worst, corrupt senators:
        Corzine, Lautenberg, Menendez, Torricelli. 
         
        One more from Fearless Frankdick:
        http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/12/lautenberg.high.capacity.clips/index.html?hpt=C1
         
        This breathless gem;
         
        “a 9 mm Glock 19 semi-automatic handgun, which is the preferred weapon of deranged madmen.”
         
        And he is an expert on deranged madmen, isn’t he.
         
        I read somewhere that Gabby Giffords owns a Glock 19. 
         
        One last quote from a liberal “thinker”:
         
        “Pass the assault weapons ban permanently and outlaw any clip/magazine/semi-automatic that can be used to turn many guns into automatic weapons (for all intents and purposes).”
         
        A clip turns a semi-auto into a full auto, as if by magic.

        • Richnjsouth

          @rockribbedrushy  @Rose Palmer
           Not knowing where all of you live, but let me tell you, as a resident in NJ and having Lautenber, Menendez, then next door in NY is Schumer ….is like living in a fiefdom.  We see people in “free states” that honor citizens’ rights and get pissed off that we are treated like crap.  You have to be very careful…..even when legally owning guns……careful to transport to a range or even during hunting season, don’t be floating around afterwards with stuff in the vehicle, like at the mall or restaurants etc….make sure they are out of view, cased, ammo separated etc.  Even having pepper spray, never mind tear gas, they go after you.  The right to carry is essentially non existent……except to cops, and very few civilians…..and I mean few.  The more they “deny me” the more annoyed and violated I feel and I was never a fanatic about guns, used them in the military, hunting  and range shooting, so after spending many years in the military , cleaning, maintaining many weapons from M16, M60, 50ca, SAW, MK19, 45 cal, 9mm ..you name it……these pinheads in DC piss me off telling me what I can or cannot do.

        • cherokee_warrior

          @Richnjsouth  @rockribbedrushy  @Rose Palmer
           Suggestion, instead of pepper spray, get a couple of spray bombs of Wasp killer.  You fire a strong, straight stream and they say that it burns like hell and does violent things to the person who gets it used on.

    • Deborah Flynn

      @Rose Palmer  @I This is a man who BS says he’s the Middle and leads from the far left progressive siide of the party. He applauded himself on just HOW progressive this buill was in sticking it ti the rich. Isn’t that nice? he applauds himself on hurting Americans. The people who voted for this will be the first to suffer.

  • AwakeningGiant

    Another outrageous example of liberal hypocrisy.  Why don’t the big Libs like Schumer and Lautenberg and Feinstein sponsor a bill to do away with the tremendous amount of Capitol security?  Why should they have armed security and our precious children not have security?  Plus, we adults need security from the Libs as they will be the first to use armed force against their own citizens.  I agree that people would benefit from training, but it does not take a lot of training to aim a load of buckshot down the hall to take out some intruders!

    • SheilaAnn

      @AwakeningGiant Why should they carry guns and we can’t have any guns????? Are they giving up their bodyguards and all guns too?

  • AwakeningGiant

    How many people would not have wanted an armed individual to have blown Jared Loughner away before he killed anyone?  How many people would have liked for several theatergoers to have opened fire and stopped the massacre in the Aurora, CO theater?  And how many people wished that the brave principal at Sandy Hook had come out with a pistol blazing rather than rushing the armed shooter with no weapon?  Rep Sheila Jackson Lee should demand that all the Capitol Police now protecting her sorry behind should turn in their weapons and just ask the crazies visiting the Capitol to “Be Nice.”

    • locknload

      Ms Lee is a Progressive Liberal. If you observe them you will note they love their power, serve themselves at other’s expense and love to pick the winners and losers. I doubt she would want to follow her own edicts.

  • SheilaAnn

    Sheila Jackson Lee is so obviously a fool. Who in their right mind could ever have voted for anything but her skin color…No brain there.

    • Evermyrtle

      @SheilaAnn Skin color, again! One of the nicest, Christian, violence hating people I ever knew  were black. If I want a friend who will stand beside me it is some just like these people. Why can’t we call them what the are not black, white, red or whatever but who have hearts of flesh filled with love with love for the fellow man or hearts of stone that is filled with hate for all men. It is a sad fact that there are many more black with this bitterness but that does not mean that there are not a
      of good Christian Black people.

      • freebirds

        U@Evermyrtle @SheilaAnn
        I love your heart, and i totally agree. Racism is a evil thing. Unfortunately as long as there is breath in the lives of people it will exist. In fact at this very moment i happen to be sitting amongst a team of the sweetest and nicest people one could want for friends. All 3 of them are of another color in which i wont use because you might refer to me as a racist if i should use there color as a reference.
        No different then i wont any longer refer to the fox thats killing my chickens as a fox again. For now on it will be (the animal thats killing my animals). No more labeling here.
        I’m not racist against skin color, yet i do have a problem with cultures that are of the racist type such in my case. I was violated by another culture, and violated again by the same culture when the police arrived. I am not racist. The other culture made it a race issue. This is why I’m free and delivered from the incident and the policeman is fighting for his job.
        And one would know for sure that if it was the other way around it would make national news unfortunately.
        The Bible states that in the end days right will seem wrong and wrong will be o.k.
        This is where we are.
        I would of reacted the same way regardless of color. The police and the people who ran me over sadly acted racist.

      • locknload

        @Evermyrtle, @SheilaAnn – As Dr. King said, “…Judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.” I beleive those words. I beleive in those words. And when I think of people I trust,  people I beleive in, I think of folks like Allen West of Florida, and Rand Paul of Kentucky. These are men who have good character – THAT is what you look for when supporting someone to represent you. Unfortunately a majority of those 535 who run Washington DC are NOT of good character. See, Elections DO have consequences.

        • Evermyrtle

          @locknload  @SheilaAnn Thanks, that is truly a compliment.

      • Richnjsouth

        @Evermyrtle  @SheilaAnn
         In a perfect world …fellowship would be great, but since people are products of their families, community, friends and yes race as well as a “chosen culture”.  When you have schools and politicians that instigate diversity…..that is why a society has problems becoming “one”.  We all come from various “cultures” which is different than race.  Because many come to the US and do not want to mainstream in that culture, because it may relegate grandpa’s old country practices to secondary importance.  Politicians have used differences to gain power and divide groups, who actually do not have much in conflict normally.  Schools and politicians have made it a cause to constantly point out differences, to demand retribution for age old wrongs and historical events that should be learned, but not implemented into today’s business.  Schools and politicians are great at enhancing distractors, peeves and perceptions of being dissed, slighted etc.  And people buy into the garbage.  There are basically 4 races, but these days, some unauthorized ghosts have made jews, “hispanics” (fake culture and grouping for political uses), arabs new races, when in fact they are not……they may be blends of races.  Those persons that ascribe to a particular “culture” that predominates from a given race or geography, often use a “flexible” identity to gain access, benefits, which also depends on their looks, ie light skin, dark, hair, features ……just like the fraud female who became a US senator from Mass, after she claimed some nominal “American Indian” heritage 1/32 nd.  The purpose of the US was to minimize the differences for the greater good……and at times we see that work, especially during war, disaster etc……….then it reverts back to separatism.  Early arriving whites hung onto their Italianess, Germanness, Polishness etc, but after generations it has calmed somewhat and more prefer their American ness first.  I do not believe ANYBODY SHOULD HYPENATE THEIR NATIONALITY UNLESS THEY WERE ACTUALLY BORN IN THE OTHER COUNTRY.  iIF YOU WERE BORN IN THE US…..THEN CALL YOURSELF…….AMERICAN/CHINESE, OR AMERICAN / ITALIAN ETC.  IF YOU WERE BORN IN AFRICA………….THEN YOU SHOULD USE AFRICAN /AMERICAN…REAL SIMPLE SOLUTION.  THOSE WHO LIKE TO USE THE ‘OTHER NATIONS’ NAME FIRST……..SHOULD GO BACK THERE IF THEY THINK IT IS SUPERIOR.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Richnjsouth  @SheilaAnn Well! I cannot tell exactly what I am so I will follow your advice and will not attempt to call anyone else by any name . I know in fact, that I am first of all a deep South American, I was born here and have had ancestors as far back as some Indian nation,plus later on German, Jewish, French, Spanish and whatever else, I do not have a clue. So, all of you will have no problem with me calling you names.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Richnjsouth  @SheilaAnn I mean I was born in the deep south of North America, not South America!!! All of the rest is correct!!

        • Richnjsouth

          @Evermyrtle  @SheilaAnn
           you can be anything you want………..but those of us who might be “mutts” should not use our mixed heritage as a gimmick to jump around in our loyalty or interests……meaning if somebody is half black, half white……….to use either when it suits their needs, today I want to act white to get a job, tomorrow I will be black to hang with my homeys…………..not a good plan.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Evermyrtle  @SheilaAnn FYI Jesus wasn’t white he was a middle eastern Jew so brown would be more like it

        • Evermyrtle

          @Deborah Flynn  @Evermyrtle  @SheilaAnn I
          I do not remember ever mentioning anything about the tone of JESUS CHRIST skin. Of HIS earthly parentage HE was Jewish which means HE had Jewish skin tones.

  • Ed Watson

    Wasp spray is not a cure-all, but is sure better than saying “now don’t do this” or lunging at the nut to try to stop his bad intentions.  Sure a PCP crazed human (using the word nicely) may not be affected, but it could effect him for a few seconds if it gets into his eyes and ruin his aim.  Better than just wishing you had a gun for sure.

    • DanielMelton

      @Ed Watson You can try it, but have something lethal to stop ‘em before they get close enough to take you apart.  I’ve not known of ‘dusters’ to use anything but blunt weapons.  I did see one PCP addict take three fatal hits (center of mass) from a .38 special and keep coming.  The head shot stopped him.

      • NavyJR

        @DanielMelton  @Ed Watson That sounds right; I have seen them on occasion use knives; but not with any degree of sophistication when they do so.  And the center-mass shots do seem ineffective in stopping them.

        • DanielMelton

          @NavyJR  I had a cousin who was highway patrol in the Tulsa area back in the 60s.  He saw too much of that stuff.

        • NavyJR

          @DanielMelton I’m sure he DID; I started seeing it then too… NASTY is a polite way of describing it.

      • locknload

        That is why Mr. Browning invented the 1911.

        • DanielMelton

          @locknload And the moslems in the Philippines discovered how effective it is.

        • locknload

          @DanielMelton  I am not sure if they were Muslims. As memorory serves it was a development in response to the Phillipino Natives high on a drug (similar to PCP in effect) attacking US troops with machetes. In close quarters the 38 S&W revolvers were not getting the job done – but the .45 Colt 1911 did.

        • DanielMelton

          @locknload The Moro insurrection was a continuation of the fight for independence from the Spanish.  The Moro were a predominately muslim collection of tribes whose main industry was piracy.  They wrapped themselves with yards of silk, effecting an early form of ‘bulletproof vest’, which was effective against the .38 revolver and most edged weapons.  The .45 removed that advantage.  Even though it did not penetrate, the mass of the slow moving slug took ‘em down.

        • locknload

          Thank you for clarifying. I need to read up on that. I really do love history. Hope it doesn’t get rewritten before I get to it.

        • DanielMelton

          @locknload I tripped over this information wile researching the “rumor” about General Pershing’s successfully ending the Philippine insurrection, to wit: burying 49 muslim terrorists in a pit full of pig offal and releasing the last one to spread the word of what they could expect if captured.  This incident, if it actually occurred, would have more likely have been accomplished by a company or battalion commander.

        • NavyJR

          @locknload  @DanielMelton Daniel’s got that right; I had a friend years ago who had done some missionary work in that part of the Philippines and they were and still are largely Muslim in that  southern region of the islands.  Whether or not they were ALSO high on some drug is only worse, but not the root of the problem.

  • Deborah Flynn

    I just ignore them there is no talking to a drunk or a liberal

  • Deborah Flynn

    You can’t stop peple from committing suicide

  • Richnjsouth

    As I wait for this stubborn white house occupier to make the slightest concession on his wasteful, fraudulent spending before we dive over the cliff (his desire anyway)……I wish the members of this room a Happy and Safe New Year irregardless of this disaster.  I find a very good concensus with knowledgeable input.  I have said it before…..anybody here that is so inclined……go to the lib rooms…….like Current TV and create some discord and disruption…….it might be rather annoying and taxing to read/listen to their commentary, but they need to be infiltrated.  The disingenuous garbage and twisted facts they spew is mind boggling, but evidence of why we have a marxist destroying the nation.

    • Evermyrtle

      @Richnjsouth May GOD bless HIS people in this New Year, and give us the desire, the  wisdom and the love it takes to bring many to HIS side every day, in other words, WITNESS TO HIS GREATNESS, HIS LOVE FOR HIS PEOPLE, FOR HIS INSTRUCTIONS TO HIS PEOPLE. There is such a lack of loving, working Christians, these days.We are afraid of what people will say, especially what the government will say. Forget all of that and get to work doing the job GOD that gave us to do. Time is running out!!

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Evermyrtle  @Richnjsouth Being a real Christian is not being a doormat. Christ wasn’t a weenie. He had nager and threw the money lenders out of the temple. I just never understood why he didn’t fight back when they got him

        • NavyJR

          @Deborah Flynn  Because He KNEW the plan, and what HAD to happen; which is what DID happen.  It’s all laid out in the OT, which He knew better than the rabbis in His local synagogue when He was 12.  That was the reason that incident was recorded; so we’d see that…  and their questions as to where a boy so young had acquired such wisdom…

        • Evermyrtle

          @Deborah Flynn  @Evermyrtle  @Richnjsouth Do not fool yourself for a moment,”I am the last person on this square of earth that can be described as a door mat!” I fight every foot of the way for “MY LORD AND SAVIOR.”

        • Russian55

          @Evermyrtle  @Deborah Flynn  @Richnjsouth I doubt any of that will avail you much.
           
          As I recall, your Lord and Savior wants you to pay your taxes.  “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s…”

        • Evermyrtle

          @Russian55  @Evermyrtle  @Deborah Flynn  @Richnjsouth I do not live under Caesar, but why do you care or are you gloating??

  • Evermyrtle

    There is a major conspiracy going on in this country and I believe the government is behind. Conspiracy: the massacres going on. There is some massive Satan driven evil going on.and “We the people need to root it out., to expose the root of it.

    • NavyJR

      @Evermyrtle You got the right source, but it’s older than our nation even, and it’s been driving EVERYONE, globally, toward the same goal for well over 450 years now.  It’s not our government; they’re merely TOOLS in the kit.  Look at ALL that’s been going on in our world since the mid 1500s; it’s ALL tied together; in fact, the ONLY event they DIDN’T plan was the birth of a nation called the united States for America between 1776 and 1789, when our Constitution guaranteeing the statements of our Declaration of Independence was ratified.  EVERY other war or event has been planned and orchestrated by one group,  Just remember “all roads lead to Rome”.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @NavyJR  @Evermyrtle So you think the PAPACY is in control? I think the church is hypocritical but please educate me on your thoughts. They do hold most of the riches in one business in the world.

        • NavyJR
        • Evermyrtle

          @Deborah Flynn  @NavyJR  @Evermyrtle More like Satan. he had fooled so many people with his dirty tricks. He does use the Catholic church , the Baptist Church, the Methodist Church. None can be deemed free of their part of the evil that has consumed the world. The worse yet is the Chrislam Church, which is the Christian Church combined with the Islam religion to make it Chrislam, which is an abomination to GOD.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Deborah Flynn  @NavyJR By the way, this deterioration has been going on for 2,000 years or shall we say more like 6,000 years. In all of that time Satan has endeavored to put GOD down and has been working diligently to destroy what GOD has made. It won’t work, GOD will soon get it all straightened out. He will send HIS SON JESUS, where we will  meet HIM in the clouds, to take us to safety, while HE takes care of what is on the  earth.

        • NavyJR

          @Evermyrtle On that score, I have to seriously wonder how many of those who believe they get that free pass actually will.  The people teaching that are the ones who have been infiltrated. so what they’re teaching is what Lucifer, via his agents here, WANT taught, and heard.  Just saying….

        • Deborah Flynn

          @Evermyrtle  @NavyJR You know I never heard that term but it was EACTLYT what I thought of Obama. His church is like a bunch of Black Muslims in a Chritian church.

        • Deborah Flynn

          I always thought there was a grand plan that wasn’t anything like Jesus’s teachings at all. When I learned of the Great Schism in PUBLIC school no less I thought Martin Luther got it right.

        • NavyJR

          @Deborah Flynn Luther was right; he just didn’t know how far the Roman church would go, or who was behind them pushing all that HE saw wrong then!

  • Deborah Flynn

    I was banned from ever posting on the Huffington Post tonight after I said I’d like to wipe that smug snarkey smirk off OBAMA’s face and he totally disrespected evry member of Congress. WOOOOOOOOOSH I was banned. LOL

    • cherokee_warrior

      @Deborah Flynn
       By golly, I’m not the only one that the Greek (*) itch banned.  I posted a lot on AOL before Huffington joined in, or whatever.  Had to reregister, and did.  Posted two emails and went to sign in, and got an incorrect password message, tried again, same thing, went in and changed the password, and AOL confirmed it, so went to sign on, and right off, incorrect password.   So, I drew the conclusion that they don’t want anyone bad mouthing their slease, (zero)bama or the Libs.
       
      I am also banned from my emails going through to whitehouse.gov.  Sent two emails through the website, right after zero took office, but critical, and when I sent the third, it was returned with reason for non-delivery and rejected sender.
       
      Question after the clock strikes 12, is it going to be silent, or is all hell goiing to break loose?

      • NavyJR

        @cherokee_warrior  I got that after sending him notice that I considered him a traitor and oath-breaker, in a couple; you think we hurt his feelings?

    • NavyJR

      @Deborah Flynn Just for saying what MILLIONS of us are feeling???  Go FIGURE!

      • Deborah Flynn

        The llibs there are so outrageous LOL They believe every lie and if you disagree they report you.

        • Kissitgoodbye

          @Deborah Flynn / Just like a card carrying Marxist!

        • NavyJR

          @Deborah Flynn Kind of like in Germany, in the ’30s and ’40s… Remember what happened to those folks who got reported there… it applies now and here too.  We all need to be aware of that.

        • Deborah Flynn

          @NavyJR It is the New Amerika under the TSAR OBAMA. be careful what you say

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @Deborah Flynn  You think I shouldn’t have sent those e-mails to the WH calling him a traitor?  I’m not going to “hide” from the truth or O and his henchmen.  I’m too old to be PC, and they can only kill me once!

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @Deborah Flynn BTW. I am NavyJR; the site screwed up and won’t let me post under that, so I went in via Facebook.

    • Evermyrtle

      @Deborah Flynn Consider yourself complimented! It happens to me regularly, when I print certain scriptures so I have to be very careful which one I type in, and advise readers to read the rest of the chapter. It  is possible that those comments are deleted, also I do not check all of them but have notice that some are missing. .

    • Richnjsouth

      @Deborah Flynn
       That is funny…….those libs ……….the bastion of free speech……..unless they dont like it.  They didnt like your truth.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Richnjsouth There is only ONE truth OBAMA OBAMA zomboid creatures chanting OBAMA lol

  • Evermyrtle

    HAPPY NEW YEAR AND MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF HIS PEOPLE, RICHLY, EVERYWHERE

    • NavyJR

      @Evermyrtle Same to you

  • Rose Palmer

    To John Fellie ….  First of all, there is no need to be so rude. Second, I not only wrote my Senator but tried putting in a call to him. All I got in return was a message saying “He would be in touch”. I won’t hold my breath. As for your remark to me, try making a new Year’s resolution to be a little kinder.
    Happy New Year

  • Rose Palmer

    Wishing all on here a Happy New Year!!!

  • Rose Palmer

    Arizona is a nice state, I stayed there seveal years ago. However, I am a born New Englander, love the 4 seasons. Although, have to add the winters can be cruel.

    • DanielMelton

      @Rose Palmer You should take a look at NW Minnesota.  We’ve got SEASONS!

    • NavyJR

      @Rose Palmer I have snow still on the ground from the other day; bare trees out my window, and a temp of 26 at  1PM, which is fairly close to as high as it will get to day; that 4 seasony enough for you?  Depends on WHERE in AZ you go.  Where I am at a mile high we DO get all 4 of them, although you do have to be quick to catch the springs and falls as they kind of  “blow through’” over night sometimes.

  • Rose Palmer

    All of this & he still was re-elected, go figure. I don’t know if America can survive another 4 years w/ this admiistration. I fear for our country.

  • kdauksch

    Your missing the point!  CAESAR Doesn’t OWN anything!   Everything he has he steals from US!!!!

  • Deborah Flynn

    That sherriff needs to be President then

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @Deborah Flynn If you mean our Sheriff Joe in AZ, I’d rather see him clean out Justice, from the post of USAG; he GETS how to follow and enforce the LAWS that exist!

  • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

    The mistake will be his, there are millions and millions of Americans to set the government strait when it come’s to it. It will take all of about 1 or 2 days to do it.

  • texaselect

    Do Not Register Your Weapons with Anyone. We have every right to oppose the Obama Administrations attempts to pass “laws” that will disarm America. Our Constitution is More Than just a Piece of Paper ! Simply do not comply, Period. They are not the “Borg” and Resistance is anything but futile.! (as in Star Trek kids)  I do not see Texas; where we are allowed to carry our guns in our cars without a Concealed Handgun License bowing down to the Dictator wanna be and his cohorts. They believe that since he was able to steal the election and people fell for it, they can do what ever they want to do. WRONG !
     New Mexico allows Open Carry but requires a license to carry concealed. I don’t see them bowing down to Obama anytime soon.
    We in Texas can carry Concealed on our person with a license and we can carry in our Vehicles without one, so long as it is concealed. There will be blood spilled if the democrats and communists attempt to disarm America. Right now there is a Bill to Abolish the 22nd Amendment allowing Obama to be President for more than 2 terms as the law allows. Feinstein and her communist pals are trying to push bills through, to force us by intimidation into submission.  Obama is also attempting to Dictate that only HE Controls Our Military. Be ready to Fight for the US Constitution and your future heirs and children. Go to paint ball ranges and practice offensive and defensive manuevers where ever you can. Seek out experienced Veterans or Police Officers that will refuse to confiscate your guns for help in training. The majority of Deputies and Officers I know have stated they will refuse to do it. So have Veterans and current Military personell. We are not alone in our defiance, don’t be intimidated by the gangsters in office. Perhaps it’s time We The People remove the Tyrants from our Capitals.

    • glow34

      @texaselect
       Iagree with you 100% an I believe that it is time to PUSH for INDICMENT of this CRIMINAL, TRAITOR White House ILLEGAL, INELIGIBLE White House Squatter!

    • kdauksch

      @texaselect I’m with ya 100% bud!

    • Laddie

      Easy for you to say Texaselect - you live in the country of Texas :) – but seriously, I think that many of our politicians have violated their oath to the American people to defend the Constitution.  It does not allow for word games or some analytical interpretation – the 2nd Amendment is specific and states – A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.  Some may argue that Militia means Military – the authors of the Constitution new full well what is defined as: Militia, used to refer to a military force composed of ordinary citizens to provide defense, emergency law enforcement, or paramilitary service, in times of emergency without being paid a regular salary or committed to a fixed term of service.  This includes defending our freedoms against governments both foreign and domestic.  This was a fundimental of the Revolutionary War.  Many died back then and today to preserve that right to bear arms.

    • Richnjsouth

      @texaselect
       With you on that Texaselect…….Believe this…I live in NJ……a fiefdom of no carry rights.  Many of us in the north “pray” that those states like yours, N mex etc that have gun rights…..keep fighting and do not submit to this wretch bho.  I have no plan to turn in, register anything.  The south, the southwest, west etc……..is the true America that will stand up to this marxist mess.  As you know we all cannot live in the same place……jobs, family, homes, and legacy……..but we are ONE with you on this issue and we are proud to call you fellow Americans.  Since you already have states with 2nd amendment rights being exercised……we look to you to hold the fight…….maybe someday the rest of us will also be free to exercise our rights.  We do work on it, but because of the population dynamics, they constantly elect bums like Menendez, Lautenberg, Schumer, Gilderbrand and all the lefties who give the illegals free medicals, schooling, housing etc………and the rest of the “diversity” bums keep electing them for more handouts.  Even when we elect a repub governor, the legislature is still full of lefties.  As a veteran, citizen I have no plan to comply with their illegal crap.  Our problem, here,  is however, when purchasing a weapon, ammo etc…….they try to make it difficult…….the state can truly make a difference in this.  At one time we could purchase old weapons from the CMP directly, then they added the “go through” a dealer requirement…..adding cost and process.  They also do not like internet purchases of any kind………but something keeps them from going after that area so far.

  • texaselect

    @NavyJR  @Evermyrtle All roads lead to Rome huh ? Are you brain washed or just simple minded ? Are you implying the Catholic Church is behind World Domination or something utterly rediculas? Let me guess, you are one of those brain damaged people that believes the church is a “Hate Group” as well. You need help. Please go see a therapist before you hurt yourself.

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @texaselect  Not implying anything; and not ALL of it, but most definitely some parts thereof are!  No, I’m not brain damaged; and again not the whole of it, but some parts yes, most definitely that also.  That is pretty much the definition of a terrorist group, and the part of which I speak is and has been behind ALL the terrorist activity globally for over 4 1/2 centuries.  I’m not a danger to myself or others, but you may be if you remain blind to the truth of what is going on in this world.  I do feel sorry for those who will not see, when they could.

  • glow34

    @Deborah Flynn
     I’d like to see Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County AZ or Sheriff Barry of GA become become head of HLS;  I’m not too sure at this point about a president; A lot of people are pushing Marco Rubio, but even though I believe that he is eminently qualified, he is NOT ELIGIBLE and we would be opening the same can of worms we are trying to correct with the INELIGIBLE squatter in the White House right now;  Rubio’s parents were BOTH born in Cuba thereby making Marco uneligible under Article II of the US Constitution and it woudl add fuel to the fire of the DEMENTED LIBS who are pushing for either ABOLISHMENT of that requirement or ABOLISHMENT of the entire Constiution;  I admire Rand Paul but am not sure that he is quite ready for the Oval Office.  However, at this point, ANYONE woudl be better than what we are setteld with!

    • Deborah Flynn

      we’ve gone past thew point where eligibility matters with the libs so bring on Marco Rubio

  • glow34

    @kdauksch
     You’re right and WHEN we OUST the USURPER all of those laws can be rescinded; NULL and VOID just like I’d like to see this piece of GHETTO TRASH become

  • kdauksch

    I just seen a U-TUBE video showing a girl that was supposedly shot in the sandy hook shooting ( and killed )  sitting on Obama’s lap DAYS after the shooting!  Something really STINKS here people!

    • glow34

      @kdauksch
       I have said from day one that this was a GOVERNMENT SETUP as part of their GUN GRAB SCHEME;  Adam Lanza and his mother, if they are dead, were the sacrificial lambs and were MURDERED as part of the scheme, just as James Holmes is part of the same scheme;  that poor person is SO TOTALLY out of it everytime he is seen in court; he has absolutely NO IDEA where he is;  I have been saying all of this on FB and anywhere else there is a PUBIC FORUM, but people are too engrossed in their RECIPES or whatver the current FAD is and posting PRETTY PICTURES to make themselves feel better and continue to bury their head in the sane than to try to find out what is going on before it’s too late.  I KNOW THAT THE SANDY HOOK SCHOOL shooting was a SETUP and so was the Aurora Theater shooting and more than likely, the Arizoa shooting which wsa “carried” out by another DEMENTED soul who also looks like  ZOMBIE;  There is a VERY SINISTER SCHEME going on at this very moment and if we don’t do something SOON, it will be too late;

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @glow34  @kdauksch
         Rumor that Peter Lanza and Robert Holmes, both the fathers, are involved with LIBOR scandal.  Peter is VP and Tax Director at GE Financial and Robert is lead scientist for credit score company FICO.  Rumor is they were to testify before US Senate.

        • glow34

          @Kissitgoodbye  @kdauksch
           You’re right Kissiggoobye and that is precisely why the SETUP:  There is something ROTTEN here and it the SMELL is emanating from the OVAL OFFICE

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @glow34  Think HIGHER up the food chain than that.  Even light colonels don’t originate orders, they just pass them on down the chain!

        • Deborah Flynn

          @glow34  @Kissitgoodbye  @kdauksch I really want to know what you folks think happened there? Where are the bodies of these kids they hid for so long or better yet where are these children really then?

      • Richnjsouth

        @glow34  @kdauksch
         Interesting theories.  I doubt nothing, but I have a problem with all the families who lost kids being part of a set up?  Is it that these nuts were “used” and actually killed the kids for some unknown way?  I don’t put anythingpast this criminal in the wh, but flesh out the theory on how they might send in a couple of nuts, arm them…….and in the case of theater shooter who is alive……are they keeping him drugged and suddenly he will be found dead? I could believe these marxists in order to confiscate guns gradually would set up some kind of crime to convince an idiot public that the 2nd amendment is the problem.  Just like the unsolved Vince Foster murder involving the clintons and all their Arkansas murder mysteries.  They use their position to do as they wish, but this time it is worse.

        • glow34

          @Richnjsouth  @kdauksch
           You’d be surprised what a some people will do for the right amount of money; but I don’t believe that anyone was KILLED in Newtown,  unless it was Adam and his mother; We have only heard that the mother was buried at some PRIVATE ceremony and that Adam’s body was claimed by the father two week after the “massacre” and buried at some SECRET location; we have seen nothing; we saw no AMBULANCES crowding the school; we saw no EMT’S on the scene, and one of the kids who was supposedly KILLED was on Obama’s LAP when he made an appearance at the services, and I don’t think that was supposed to happen and very few people caught it because there were other kids in the family and she was probably supposed to be kept inthe background;  I don’t know where they are being kept – it sounds too much like the STEPFORD WIVES:  A far as James Holmes, the poor man is so DRUGGED out every time he appears that he probably remembers nothing and knows nothing; and I agree with you, that he WILL TURN UP DEAD, a SUICIDE or ACCIDENT; the only thing we know is that he was found outsie the theater by his car the night of the shooting still dressed in his funny clothes and holding the weapon;  there has been no investigation on the claim by at least a couple of the theater goers who claimed that a side door had been PROPPED open during the shooting and that a body had SLIPPEDf out that door after the shooting before the police arrived;  with all of the commotion, I am sure that it was hard for people to focus, but I am convinced that he was also set up;  All of these incidents have the goverments prints all over them.

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @glow34  You’re nosing all around the truth here, and haven’t quite sunk your teeth into it yet.  This is bigger than our government and our nation; it’s literally global, and it’s been in progress for centuries, now coming to its climax.  You’re right these shootings have ALL been set-ups, and those still alive are drugged and brainwashed into oblivion so don’t really know what happened either, but they’d been “Manchurian candidates ” to start with.  Go back in history; remember Oswald protesting he’d been set up ?  He HAD; he never fired a shot, but he wasn’t crazy or drugged either so he had to be killed to silence him.  Loughner from the Tucson shooting that injured Gaby Giffords and killed a bunch including a Federal Judge, is pretty much the same deal.    Bu this is being orchestrated by people way above our government’s pay grade.  These guys here are like the majors and light colonels; the general isn’t even in the US. If you’re interested in more, let me know.

        • Richnjsouth

          @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34
           Oh, I am sure there is more going on here.  The manchurian candidate I know is a tool of the globalist agenda.  Internationalists, foreign money interests all set up events to move agendas to their needs.  I just try to focus on the domestic crap, because most of this would be too much to deal with in chat rooms and blogs………it takes a lot of space, time and writing to connect the conspiracies.

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @Richnjsouth  Indeed it does, and there’ s a whole lot more going on, that IS all tied together; each of those you speak of is part of the larger, single objective of the agenda.  Problem is that the “domestic crap” is so fully intertwined with the rest that if you don’t see the whole, you fall into their trap of focusing on the wrong stuff, while they’re completing their agenda right under your nose.  That’s exactly what they want us to do; focus on the “small stuff” and miss the “big stuff”, while playing right into their hands.

        • Deborah Flynn

          @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34 I do think there is a plan to disarm America the last bastion of freedom. If is part of the new word order then I’m probab;ty not going to live to see it. However I do think there is more to the PAPACY and its secreacy and underground catacolmbs. What the heck is going on? Where are these kids then?

        • glow34

          @Deborah Flynn  @SandraLeeSmith
           The PAPACY is CORRUPT; they have RAMPANT PEDOPHILE and SEX ABUSE and they just keep transferring the offenders to different Dioceses; they also examplify the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR; they have wealth beyond belief in their art collections alone;  As for the kids, if you are referring to the Mewtown kids, I believe that this was definitely a GOVERNMENT set-up just the Aurora Theater shooting was; if those kids WERE killled, they were NOT killed by one whacko young gunman, i.e. Adam Lanza; if they were killed, they were killed by multiple shooters and these shooters were more than likely Obama’s goon squad;  They will do anything to CONFISCATE the citizens’ guns ad kids don’t mean anything to them, take abortion for example;  in fact, we citizens don’t mean anything; we are an impediment; we stand in the way of their SOCIALIST UTOPIA they must ELIMINATE us at any cost;  If they were not killed, they are probaby in some “PROTECTION” Government Program and the parents were WELL PAID;  remember that all we saw were hearses with supposed caskets inside; There is VIRTUALLY no specific information on this;  Also, remember that Lanza’s mother whom he supposedly KILLED, was supposedly buried at some PRIVATE secret location and that Adam’s “BODY” was supposedly CLAIMED by his dad two weeks after teh “tragedy” and buried at a “SECRET” location;  There is something very SINISTER going on in this government, and now they are sending questionnaires to the MILITARY to find out who of them are WILLING to FIRE on American Citizens, and those who are NOT, are being dismissed from the service.

        • SandraLeeSmith
        • SandraLeeSmith

          @glow34  You’re still dancing all around the outer edges of this too; and haven’t yet really bit into it; If you want the answers that link it all together, you also email me at the address in the post to Deborah above.

        • Deborah Flynn

          @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34 I just sent you an em,ail.

        • Deborah Flynn

          @glow34  @Richnjsouth  @kdauksch My question is where will these families of the supposed victoms go? Witness protection? I put nothing past the government or the {force} in trying to disarm us. Whatever it is we need to be vigilant and hope the real Americans who undertsand that there is no such thing as a “little” assault” on our freedoms. I have felt this for the last 4 years , a sinsiter creep and a sickening feeling every time I watch that Devil speak. I think he is pure evil and what scares me is there are people following him. Truely scarey. They can try and rationalize the control by saying it is for the collective good but doesn’t that sound just a little to close to Communism? Doesn’t it frighten any of you to the core?

        • Deborah Flynn

          it is simple to me Good VS EVil. We just have to defeat the evil with the help of Good

    • glow34

      @Rose Palmer
       Obama was NOT re-elected Rose; Obama STOLE both the 12008 and 2012 elections;  He also is not capable of being president which he has more than proven; he is a PLANT, a STOOGE; a PUPPET on a STRING and someone else is PULLING the strings, which is why they were able to STEAL BOTH ELECTIONS

      • Richnjsouth

        @glow34  @Rose Palmer
         And nobody is investigating the campaign and voter fraud.  I think the most necessary action needs to be taken against Soros who has 200 cover organizations that he funds to destroy this country……they have lofty names, but all are there to attack our systems.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Richnjsouth  @glow34 Soros and all his money and organizations are “FRONTS” not the real threat behind them!  Moreover this is NOT simply attacks on America; but part of a much larger and very deeply entrenched “plot” against ALL humanity; which currently controls the political and fiscal power globally; and has the goal of establishing the NWO fully by 2018; with the “pope” on the throne in Jerusalem.  Which pope is up for grabs but I’m betting on the “black pope”, and the throne in Jerusalem would be the Holy of Holies in the 3rd Temple.  My money’s on God to win this one in the end.

    • Russian55

      @Rose Palmer I’ll be honest.  I don’t think Obama is a Muslim.  I think he is just a extreme leftist who wants to pursue a socialist agenda,

      • JohnFellie

        @Russian55  @Rose Palmer Yes, ovomit is a muslim his father was a muslim he was raised a muslim he went to a muslim school and you had to be a muslim to go to that school.It was in a town near were he was born in africa .

      • Russian55

        @JohnFellie  @Rose Palmer He’s not a good one then.  Muslims aren’t supposed to drink alcohol.  Obama does.
         
        My father was a member of the Communist Party in the USSR.  He didn’t actually believe any of the Party nonsense,  He did it so he could get a better apartment and get his kids in good schools, etc.

      • glow34

        @Russian55  @Rose Palmer
         You’d be WRONG; Obama is MOST DEFINITELY a MUSLIM; he was raised in Indonesia and was actually ADOPTED by his Indonesian step-father who was not only a Communist but a Muslim and Obama practiced that religion there and IS now a MUSLIM:  He pubicly stated that he would DEFEND the MUSLIMS anywhere , anytime as long as he is in the White House; He most definitely is also a COMMUNIST, A FASCIST and an EXTREME LEFTIST: He was PRIMED from college days to take over the White House and TOPPLE the USA and he’s doing it unless we STOP HIM!
        He is not even EIGIBLE because he was adopted by an Indonesian, became an INDONESIAN CITIZEN in order to attend school there and has never re-claimed his US Citienship, which would STILL make him INELIGIBLE because if his father was really the Kenyan, he was a BRITISH SUBJECT at Obama’s birth and the bimbo who was his mother was NOT OLD ENOUGH to confer citizenship on him;  At any rate, it is pretty much a certainty that his REAL BIOLOGICAL father is Frank Marshall Davis, a card carrying COMMUNIST,  who had to leave the USA when Hawaii was still a Territory which is where he  moved to and he MENTORED Obama all during Obama’s teenage years until Obama left for college at American taxpayers’ expense which also paid for his “supposed” Kenyan father’s education.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Russian55  He’s both; they’re not mutually exclusive positions to hold.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Rose Palmer O’s mother and her parents were die-hard Stalinist Communists; his father was a Muslim Socialist, as was his step-father.  And it’s not the Muslims out to destroy us who are the greatest threat to us; it’s the ones urging them on who are.

      • freebirds

        @Rose Palmer
        Unfortunately I have to beg to differ. What is good? How do we define good? What is the scale were using to define good? Christ was and is the only person who walked this earth that was good. Because he was without sin. When he went to the cross he took all the sins of the past,present, and future with him.
        Everyone is bad.. except for those who put there faith in Christ as lord and Savior. Those who have are free from sin keeping them from the realm of God. Those who have not accepted Christ are lost and will not join Christ. “I am the way, the truth, and the light.. no man comes to the Father accept through me” Jesus Christ spoke these words. He also says we cant serve two masters. So those who are Christians are good. Holy in Gods eyes because of the cross. Those who are not Christians serve other masters and are bad. Sorry. Not from me but from God. Cold hard fact. We see how angry God was over people serving false Gods. He destroyed many because of it. We are either with him. (Good) or against him ( bad). No gray area here.
        If your true to your faith” no matter what it is” you will believe it all. Every thing it teaches. So I believe everything Gods Holy word says.
        A Muslim must also believe all that there book says. If not then there picking and choosing what parts to believe. The very idea of this is crazy. Because what one picks and chooses to believe might differ from what others choose to believe. See. This leaves inconsistency in there practices as a Muslim. That would be like me saying ” I believe Christ walked this earth, but I’m not too certain about those miraculous things the Bible says he did”. See we have to take all or none. As in any other religion must do. All or none.
        So that being said can we really say that there are good Muslims? I know there can be many Muslims who can convert over to Christianity. But according to Gods word there lost people as long as they don’t convert. As well as many others who don’t accept Christ as Lord and Savior. It doesn’t make those of us who do accept Christ as better. It makes those of us who accept Christ “forgiven” free from the bondage of our sins. Because Christ took the sins of those who have faith in him and “believe he is the One true God” to the cross with him. And he threw those sins as far as the east is from the west. And he remembers them no more.
        So i guess what i’m saying is there’s only Good(Christ Jesus) or bad(Satan) nothing in between.
        But what do I know.. I’m only a plumber. So I really would like to press for anyone to look into it for yourself. I would recommend reading the four Gospels in the Holy Bible first. Mathew, Mark,Luke and John. Then if not fully convinced keep reading your way back. I promise to you this. It will really make you think if nothing else. And what do you have to loose. Its good stuff and extremely exciting.
        God bless

      • Richnjsouth

        @Russian55  @Rose Palmer
         He is a muslim.  He attended a madrassa, he can speak and read arabic, the ring on his “wedding” finger contains an arabic slogan.  He has held ramadan prayers at the white house.  His mentor Wright and the fake church they use is a cover for his activities with Farakhan…..with whom he went to visit Gadafi years ago.  Notice how obama leaves the wh during easter or christmas………..and runs off to chicago or hawaii?  Yet he claims to be a chrisitian??? Any president that was a christian stayed at the wh , held tours, dinners for handicapped or special groups.  They showed up at a church, had prayer ceremony etc.  This guy avoids all such events or pays token notice.  He also will have more than one bible “swearing in” .  The last time he had a “special” second swearing in using a????????bible or koran?????? He is just too bizarre to claim Christianity. He can also be a marxist as a muslim……so was Saddam and his uncles……….muslims, yet they loved Stalin’s techniques.  Also the uncle during WWII was a pro Hitler muslim.  They can be and use anything they want for their tyranny……just like this shill is doing to us.

      • Richnjsouth

        @glow34  @Russian55  @Rose Palmer
         Glow……good point on that Indonesian citizenship……..he never reclaimed his US birhtright.  The mother hated the US ……..you saw the same DVD I did about Davis being the real father?  I also read that part about the mother not being old enough to confer citizenship on baby O, and the father being a Kenyan……per their birth records.  I think one parent had to be 21 as a citizen to confer US citizenship on the kid.  Davis probably was the real father, but the paternal grandfather feared having Davis  on the birth cert…….back in 61 as the old man was working for the US govt and feared……a commie “son in law” would cause trouble for him.

      • glow34

        @Richnjsouth  @Russian55  @Rose Palmer
         The thing is Richnjsouth, that we DON’T know what name is on the ORIGINAL birth certificate because NO ONE has ever seen it;  When the fight to get his birth certificate started  in 2008 before he even was elected the first time, the Hawaii Department  of Health REFUSEDf and after Obama was elected and  the fight continued to get the certificate, the then Director stated that the certificate was in the vault but they would NOT RELEASE it because it “MIGHT EMBARRASS the PRESIDENT.”:  So it must be something about just WHO is named as the father;  Obama has told so many LIES,. but one of the things he once  said was that his mother had been a “SINGLE MOTHER” so maybe neither Obama Sr. or Davis were on the certificare; maybe only her maiden name appeared; at any rate, we know that the Kenyan was NOT his father, that her parents paid him to PLAY DADDY for ONE DAY: and we are pretty sure that Davis IS the REAL DADDY,; without access to the origial Birth Bertificate we may NEVER KNOW who this man isb, but it’s a certainty that he is NOT OBAMA!  And yiou are right, Staley was barely 18 when the scumbag was born; too bad that abortion was NOT an option at that time. Have you read Jerome Corsi’s WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND WHERE IS THE REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE?  They are pretty good;  I am waiting for the next disclosure from Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Possee – I understand that it will contain a LOT more info than we have heretofore been given.  We’ll see.

      • Russian55

        @glow34  @Richnjsouth  @Rose Palmer I doubt you will ever see anything.  Both parties have way too much invested in the status quo.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @glow34  @Richnjsouth We DO know where the original is; it’s on file in Kenya; Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Coast General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, on 4 August 1961, and the Kenyan parliament’s official record affirms that fact, as of a few days after the ’08 election when one of their members commented on their official record how tolerant and open the US was to allow a Kenyan born man to become their President!  BTW the Kenyan BC is the usual long form style, complete with baby’s foot print as is STANDARD practice.  I’ve filled out enough of them in del rooms to know what they should have on them, and what they look like!  However he was subsequently adopted by Lolo Soetoro under the name Barry Soetoro, so since he never changed that or his Indonesian citizenship, he’s legally Barry Soetoro of Indonesia!

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @SandraLeeSmith @glow34 @Richnjsouth / Our President has an AKA… Nice! Well , that’s something honest.

      • Richnjsouth

        @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34
         I know of that……….I have a copy of it……with the footprint. Also an aunt said he was born in Kenya….of course all those half relatives have been told to shut up. The Hawaiian BC was a fake, since it is computer/printer typed, which did not exist in 61.  The mother was all over the place with her African muslim love fest. But the bottom line is……….he managed to steal a second election because of the stupidity of half of the American population.  They completely refused to look at his flakey backround, mentors or anything…….like they had a “control chip” in their skulls.  They were so filled with “jungle fever” that they lost their minds.  We need to revamp our education curriculum real fast………it is producing idiots.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Kissitgoodbye  Fact is he has a bunch of them and lied about not having any on his IL state Ba r app, which they found out was a lie; and that’s what got him the choice to either give up his license to practice law or be prosecuted for fraud!

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Richnjsouth  @glow34 Some of them may well HAVE chips  in their heads already; DON’T let anyone talk you into a flu vaccine, ever again!  It’s only about 15% effective at best anyway.

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @SandraLeeSmith / Yet NONE of this came out with either election. That’s some effective press we have. I always wondered how you go from relative obscurity to POTUS? You would think that we American would have vetted this man before voting for him, since he had no record to speak of. Makes me wonder HOW that happened, or was being African American enough. If that’s the case, we are in BIG trouble!

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @Russian55 @JohnFellie @Rose Palmer / I don’t think they are supposed to frequent hookers either, yet that seems to be there first stop on the way as soon as they hit this country. The 9/11 bunch seemed to like them.

      • http://aol.com/ ssilv48
      • Richnjsouth

        @ssilv48  @Richnjsouth  @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34
         If I can find it……..dont know where I put it……..hard copy ……and maybe computer copy in my “bama” file………will check.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Kissitgoodbye  Many tried; and are still trying!  The PTB have bought the courts as well, and keep claiming citizens have NO standing to demand verification of his status, which I believe is a load of that stuff you shovel out of barns. Secretaries of States, or the officials who accepted Pelosi/Reid SAY so, which is exactly ALL they got in 49 states, are partly to blame; he should NEVER have gotten on a single one of those ballots!  But this thing is so huge, I suspect they all simply IGNORED the laws and rules, and just DID what they wanted at the moment!

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Richnjsouth  @ssilv48 Also possible the site americangrandjury.com still has their copy of it on display or file.

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @SandraLeeSmith  @Kissitgoodbye
         I thought this was a Govenment for the people and by the people?  No official should have the power to block information that prevents citizens from making informed decisions. THAT, it and of itself, should have told the public to NOT vote this man in to ANY office. No political party should have the power, No court should have that power.  That is why I suspect that this whole election was rigged from the start.  You vote someone in as POTUS and you just assume he is fine because he is on a ballot? Meanwhile all information has been off limits?  This has never happened in the history of this country. This happens in Communist counties.  THIS is why the Dems want their open boarders. Illegal Immigrants do not care, especially when they are receiving things they would not have access to in their country of origin.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Kissitgoodbye Did you follow all the links in the thing you sent me about the forbidden knowledge?  I’ve been grappling the past 2 days with the reality that EVERYTHING I learned about this nation from its inception was a LIE and DECEPTION; that not even  the majority of the Founding Fathers were who and what I’d believed them to be; it’s a lot worse than ‘feet of clay”.    I guess that had to sink in a little slower, because it’s turned EVERYTHING topsy-turvy; and just at the moment I feel a bit like a ship with a broken rudder caught in the MOTHER of all typhoons!  That was what I learned too; but in FACT that has never actually been so!  Since the Revolution, except a brief stint between Andrew Jackson’s and Lincoln’s administrations, we’ve NEVER been out from under the Crown, via the BANKS!  I begin to wonder if we’ve ever had a truly honest election, or anything else, other than an illusion!

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @SandraLeeSmith
         I feel the same, and you are right.  This is just the first time that the scam is being displayed for ALL to see.

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @SandraLeeSmith
         I also think this gun grab is being used as a distraction for what’s to come. None of us are prepared. ALL will be betrayed!

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Kissitgoodbye They’re in the “home stretch” now, know they have ALL the power and the majority of the world’s population where they want them; so they don’t have to pretend, or be accountable at all, any longer, so why continue the charade?  Of course they still believe that by destroying the Jews, and possibly those who are truly the Lord’s as well, they don’t have to worry about that pesky Messiah- dude showing up… so they “win”, but that’s NOT what the scripture says!  Re-read EZ chapter 7, and tell me what you think that’s about….

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Kissitgoodbye Distraction, yes, but also to pave the way for easier internment, and for UN take-over as the NAU state is established with Canada and Mexico….  in preparation for the whole NWO agenda being unleashed on the world.

      • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

        @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34  @Richnjsouth As I have said in the past, We the American People have a non citizen who is a muslim in our W/H, no if’s and’s or buts about it. And we just let him do that. People Call your ball less congressmen and obviously ball less congresswomen

      • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

        @Richnjsouth  @SandraLeeSmith  @glow34 Rich, I would like to still have that copy. Thanks, It is unbelievable that it is so obvious what is going on and our own Government is acting like the Wizard of OZ, Pay no attention to the man behind the sheets. Do what we say to do, not what we do. Have the health care we say to have, not our health care, It’s good enough for you, but not good enough for us and our family. TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICANS

      • http://aol.com/ ssilv48

        @SandraLeeSmith  @Kissitgoodbye I did not find it on that site. Thanks for trying.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @ssilv48  MOST of Congress as well as SCOTUS are in the same “pockets” as O is; and so are virtually all the current leaders of the nations of the world.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @ssilv48  You’re still looking at this as an American problem only; you have to see how it fits into the global agenda and who’s really pulling all the strings to make any sense of what’s happening here.  The ones pulling the strings are NOT in this nation; and have a much larger, darker and more diabolic agenda than the “tip’ we’re seeing here, still; although it is starting to come out in the open more now…. because they’re in the “home stretch”!

      • http://aol.com/ ssilv48
    • Deborah Flynn

      @kdauksch I ahte to be a conspiracy theory nut but tell me what that was I didn’t hear about it. What do you think is going on?

  • Evermyrtle

    @NavyJR  @Evermyrtle You are right about people in the government all over the world is being controlled by the demons brought here by from Satan. They are about to accomplish what Satan intended  BUT never fear GOD is at hand and watching over it all. When the time is right HE will act and put HIS people in safety and then HE finish HIS business with this earth.
     
    Rev. 21:1-2, 4-5
    1. 110And I saw a new heaven and anew earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
    2. And I John saw the Holy City, new Jerusalem coming down from GOD out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
     
    4. And GOD shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    5. And HE that sat upon the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new. and HE said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
     
    What a beautiful promise for HIS people. This we can know and look forward to it as we serve and be true to HIM.

  • glow34

    @Rose Palmer  @HuffPostPolI
     Anyone would make a BETTER president than the sorry ass excuse squatting in the White House right now; but Chris Christie?  I hope it’s a JOKE

  • SandraLeeSmith

    @Rose Palmer Maybe not so fast with Christie.  Did you notice the number of Muslim judges upholding Sharia, he’s put on NJ benches since taking office? Sure you want that on Federal or SCOTUS benches?  I sure don’t!

    • glow34

      @SandraLeeSmith  @Rose Palmer
       Christie is a has-been blowhard and his undoing was his chummy touring with Obama after Sandy Storm, which obviously IMPRESSED him so much that ever since he has been brown nosing Obama to the point of NAUSEA;  NEVER that OVERBLOWN BLOWHARD thank you!

  • Rubicon01

    First, someone must disabuse Obama of the notion that re-election was a mandate for “his” policies, no matter what opposing politicians say. Governing is NOT dictating. Using children by the NRA in their ad was called repugnant by this administration, yet they used children on the stage for their emotionally driven gun control agenda of prbably illegal Executive Orders. So, who is repugnant? Name calling & casting aspersions is a tactic the left gets away with, but just let one conservative say anything even similar & they are villified to death for weeks. The two faced standard currently in use today must be revealed to the public that are simply not paying attention to their freedoms erosion.

    • Richnjsouth

      @Rubicon01
       Good comments.  I agree…….these soft marxists are a disgrace…..it’s the old do as I say, not as I do.  They constantly use tactics that they criticize anybody else for doing.  He has violated so many laws/constitution that he should be impeached, but this chickensh.t congress is too afraid to be labeled  as “racist”.  The worst part is a large part of the “dummy population” excuses him and continues to drool over his presence.  Something big has to erupt that exposes this con man as corrupt.  His criminal cohorts with Fast and Furious, the Benghazi mess, his stupid health care junk, his fraudulent giving money to “green” company hack donators, his miserable foreign policy that has allowed the spread of the Muslim brotherhood, Al Quaida, his destructive energy policies, anti business, anti military and his white hating subtle acts are overwhelming. His marxist agenda is simply to destroy the culture, the economics, the security and strength of this nation.  He is a tool of Soros, the muslim groups and all the anti american global groups from LaRaza, Aztlan, UN …..anything that diminishes the US.  He is truly a muslim loving, marxist taught racist who was nutured into this white house without any qualification or loyalty.  How does an incompetent, with a hidden record walk into the white house unless there was massive money, coersion, subtefuge, lies, campaign fraud, voter fraud to allow it.  The timing of a dumbed down population had just enoug 18-30 yr old voters who have been indoctrinated in this left wing crap to be mesmerized by his b.s..The fact that 70% of the female population voted for this criminal………twice is frightening at best.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Richnjsouth  @Rubicon01 I don’t agree that they are “SOFT” Marxists that’s like being a little bit pregnant doncha think?

      • Deborah Flynn

        @Richnjsouth  @Rubicon01 I was never so ashamed to be a woman as I was after listening to these vapid women crying there was a war on women because “SOMEONE” told them there was. They believed someone was going to take away their Birth Control what a freaking joke. My biggest issue is with the term REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS when all that is a catch phrase for the right to kill through abortions. They sickened me. I have more impportant thoughts like the direction this country is heading, the liberal anything goes attitude where kids can direspect the flag, curse God and think Johnny having 2 daddies is A OK.  I honestly get sick every time some dumb liberal opens their mouth and I was totally sickened today listening to those Democrat Congressmen fawning all over and campaigning for Hillary when Rand Paul had the ONLY real answer. She failed fire her. She was responsible for the Deaths of 4 Americans and even when their bodies were being taken of the plane she turned to Obama and said ” The Video, we have to say it was the Video” WHat’s worse is that they get people to support her. She, Bill and the rest of them sicken me.

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @Deborah Flynn  @Richnjsouth  @Rubicon01 Makes 2 of us!  Well said, Deb!

  • kdauksch

    Soros and the media should be attacked with the same ferocity as they use their selves..  Obama is not the problem, he is just some ones bitch.  We need to find out who he’s bending over for and deal with them!

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @kdauksch Some of us already KNOW who that would be, and that we have neither the organization nor the political clout to “take that one out”!    “All roads lead to Rome” is still a sound adage; and the one above that you really don’t even want to try to “deal with” because YOU will lose!  Better you turn to your Creator and ask HIS help in this matter.

      • Deborah Flynn

        @SandraLeeSmith  @kdauksch I think he has been in charge and I think the Liberals will lose in the end. Let them self destruct however we will be taken down the vortex with them too )-:

  • SandraLeeSmith

    @Deborah Flynn: You say we’ve gone past the point where eligibility matters; to bring on Rubio; I respectfully disagree oh both counts!  We NEVER go past the point when LAW matters and eligibility is the law of the land; ergo it still matters, and repeating a wrong doesn’t make it  “okay”!  Rubio, aside from his eligibility issue is far too lenient on “immigration”, and rewarding law breakers, which is what ANY form of “amnesty” in truth IS, only encourages MORE illegal behavior from them and from others as well.  We, in AZ, LIVE daily with the proof of that, in case you’re wondering….

    • glow34

      @SandraLeeSmith  @Deborah
       I totally agree with you Sandra and have been screaming about ever since people were urging Romney to choose him as VP;  This is a CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE and the Constitution SHOULD NOT be undermined; it has already been trashed by Obama and the last thing we want to do i to make if official and allow Obama to take hold and remain in power indefinitely; You are also right regarding Rubio’s liniency on “immigration” which obviously stems from the fact that his family are immigrants; Rubio is a veru qualified Congressman but that does NOT automatically open the door to amending the Constitution to alow him to run for the presidency; and above all, we must not forget that he IS a POLITICIAN:  I agree with you – NO to Rubio

    • Deborah Flynn

      I was being facetious I’m sorry you missed the ironic humor. What I was saying is IF we were like them then we could do the same thing with Rubio. I was simply making a analogy. Rubio is smart though he is going to take the republican Party where it NEEDS to go whether we agree with it in toto or not. IF he gets the Hispanics away from OBAMA ‘s crew then we can at least get in. The problem is there are way too many illegals but the republicans are going to fail over and over if we simply exclude the, Unfortunately we are going to have to use them in every sense of the word to get BACK into the white House after that lets Congress do its job and get rid of REID who uis the biggest obstruction to the process of all. I kinda of was happy he crashed his car I hate to say t. Not that I wished him to die LOL But I would have taken Gods removal of him from actibve public life.

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @Deborah Flynn Courting the Hispanic vote by pandering to illegals only legitimizes the illegal actions the Dems are taking;  doing that is JUST as wrong for us as for them, and a wrong never leads to a “right”.    If we do that, we sink to the same level of evil; and that’s not the way to go.  Our Creator says clearly even a righteous man may lose his position by doing unrighteous acts, and I believe that holds true now as much as it did when Ezekiel penned those words, repeatedly; as if to make that point very clear to Israel of his day.

        • Deborah Flynn

          @SandraLeeSmith do we not need to fight fire with fire?

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @Deborah Flynn  Not that kind of fire, no; that’s more akin to tossing gasoline onto a fire to fight it, and I promise you NO firefighter I’ve ever known would advocate that!  If we allow the enemy  to set the rules, we’ve lost already; and Afghanistan is CLEAR evidence of that, where MB off-shoots here are dictating the ROE by which our troops operate there!  The “fire” we need to use is to provide a strong and clear OPPOSITE to what the Dems are spewing; and show how our Constitution as written and a truly FREE market Capitalism is to their benefit, as is rule of LAW, not rule of man,which is what we’re presently under.  We need to demonstrate how morality is superior to amoral anarchy…. and to stand strong on what the Creator has taught and given us.The fire of the Holy Spirit, and the American spirit as well, are both stronger than  what the left has; but we have to reach people’s hearts with TRUTH, not more lies.

  • Deborah Flynn

    we’re all awke the question is how do we rebel?

    • Richnjsouth

      @Deborah Flynn
       A little pregnant?  Poor comparison……….to a “soft marxist”………People in political spectrums are not like pregnant women.  Politics……have hard core, moderates and marginal followers.  you see that every day in our own political events.  It’s easy to be a soft marxist.  It is one that proposes, initiates such programs to further the marxist agenda of collectivism, large govt intervention in all aspects of business, commerce, trade, finance………and then into the realm of individual rights and privileges.  Obama is absolutely a soft marxist……as he was taught by Frank Davis ……..and a series of radicals who supported his candidacies……from Wright, Farakhan, Van Jones, Ayers etc.  A hard marxist is one which uses armed intervention…….by killing opposition, kicking in doors, confiscation of guns, property and inprisoning those in the way of the “revolution”.  Castro, Mao, Lenin are examples of these.  Hugo Chavez, also entered the hard core marxist type, due to his busting up news media offices, arresting dissenters.  So far Obama, because of the nature of our country has been using the internal departments, regulations and money to push the nation to a much more euro/socialist structure. There is not enough space or time here…..but he has defied laws, perverted the constitution and has created hostile govt operations that rather than fix problems……he redefines them into a different context.  Even in his inaugaral………he invoked politics, but mentioned gay marriage, “immigration reform(which means amnesty…we already have laws to control illegals…..that he refuses to enforce), and gun control (which means incrementally destroying the 2nd amendment).  He never mentioned the terrible economy, jobs etc………which is the foremost issue to the most number of Americans…….but as I state…….he redefines the priority and needs.  Of course you will disagree with me……but you cannot deny my statements.  There are degrees of liberal, conservative, marxist, communist………even various “strengths” of catholic, jew etc……..YOu must agree on this or else you are completely numb.  You have fundamentalist religious types, and reform types, some refer every decision they make to religion, others do not.  Same in politics.  Some of the Black caucus members of congress, refer every issue as a race or black issue……others do not.  Pregnant is not the same………..neither is a Little dead.  There are some absolutes in life……….and you well know…..politics is not one of them……….

      • Deborah Flynn

        When it comes to evil there are no inbetweens. Marism is evil. It is absolute and not one shred of it is good . To me it a perfect analogy and I bet there are a few million people who agree with me at least. We have raised a society of children that think there are no absolutes. They think if it is good for their little egos then do it. We have accepted things that have becomes “normal” to them that are not in the least normal. We project to them that a “lttle” loss of personal freedopm in out rights is OK as long as it is for the collective good. We’re there Baby and it is creeping in at a fatser rate than anyone can imagine. Those of us who grew up truely free have never felt this fear of government before. We fear it becausse we KNOW what we have lost. To you? maybe its normal and a soft Marxist is part of the NEW normal it isn;t for me.

    • kdauksch

      Easy Deborah,  Watch GAHNDI and listen to the words of Regan!   JUST SAY NO!  Render them Irrelevant.  They can’t combat that!  you see there trying to get us to SNAP and start shooting them.  Buit if you just say NO.  What are they going to do!  Put 150,000,000 people in jail I don’t think so!

      • SandraLeeSmith

        @kdauksch Gandhi’s program woudn’t work here, because he was opposing an occupation force; we aren’t; and he was also dealing with one nation’s government, again, we aren’t ; this is a GLOBAL agenda, and not perpetrated by a single government, but by virtually ALL the leaderships in the world.  As to jailing 150 million of us, that’s what the Concentration {FEMA}camps are for!

        • kdauksch

          @SandraLeeSmith YES!  Gandhi’s program always works!  Don’t obey!  they said the same thing about the colonist’s against Britain.  We didn’t have a chance,  it was suicide.  And we handed them their ass!  You actually believe the world population would stand by why Million’s if not billion’s are slaughtered.  And all this time our MILITARY is going to allow this huh!  I am a Oath Keeper and I am here to tell you that if we would just get off our ass and handle this we would be done inside a week!  The oath keepers are waiting just like our forefathers did.  Let them come at us,  then send them to hell!  I can’t loose,  because I will die on my feet a free man!  Just hope others are willing to do the same!

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @kdauksch  Let’s try this a slightly different way here; first off, this is NOT like Gandhi’s revolt or our Revolution!  Those were against a single nation/government, this is NOT!  It’s not even against all humans, for starters.  At the TOP of that chain is a personage that is most definitely NOT human, and his agenda is not amenable to human means of assault!  You need to understand that the weapons we have for this battle are of the Spirit, not flesh or guns.  Our forefathers and I had 2 of them in that particular war, knew their enemy; and unless you also know your enemy, you are doomed to fail.  Any good officer can tell you that!  This “war” has been going on since before America ever saw a white man on its shores; long before!

        • VictorBarney

          @SandraLeeSmith  @kdauksch
           Did you know that even our FIRST forefather’s had to fight Islam? It’s true you know? This fight has been going on since the 600 AD’s to say the LEAST! SandraLeeSmith, you seem likely to be one “either” ONE of the 144,000 Israelites that survive this RIGHT “ANTI-CHRIST”(MARXIST) over u.s. this time; or perhaps even will be called to Elder Gary Miller of [email protected]; who will make up the Spiritual Assembly under Elder Miller during these last days. It also is written the “Eliyah” must come first & Elder Miller, a PHYSICS INSTRUCTOR(PURE SCIENCE) has been given the ONLY absolutely CORRECT Spiritual calender in the world & as written, the ONLY “SIGN” of Yahweh’s people will be the “SABBATHS” SIGN(WEEKLY & ANNUAL SABBATHS/Exodus 31:13))! Yes, SanbdraLeeSmith, the correct calender gives the “only” SIGN, also as written…Just saying TRUTH! Therefore watch! p.s. Revelation, chapter 18:10 CLEARLY states that when our JEWISH Hebrew-Inspired SAVIOR “YAHSHUA,” meaning in Hebrew that “Yahweh means Salvation” returns; he imediately destroys all Islam, the “BEAST” of Revelation! Again, just saying what’s actually written, NOT what people say is written and is NOT!

        • SandraLeeSmith

          @VictorBarney  Matter of fact I did; I served at USNH Quantico with Marines.  “to the shores of Tripoli” comes from the Barbary Coast wars in the early 1800s,  that would be the same Tripoli that still stands in Libya today.  I also know that Islam is part of the “beast”, a servant thereto, but that the true beast is even more deeply hidden from view, and what that is.  I’ll check out that site, thanks for the info.  Whether I am “one of the Chosen” somehow, I’ll leave to God; I know He gave me a “gift” and certain knowledge, with the understanding of how it fits together, and that I’m to share that.  I do know Yeshua, which is the “nickname” for Yehoshua, as we’d call Joshua Josh today.  But the disciples were friends of His, so called Him the more familiar.  I know that Yhwh or Yahweh is the 3rd person “He is” of the “I Am” that God told Moses at the burning bush.  And I know that the true whole “beast” is terrified of the returning Messiah; and working very hard, it believes, to “prevent” that return by destroying all those for whom it believes He will be coming; thinking that if they’re destroyed, He will have no cause to come after all.

      • freebirds

        @kdauksch no. But do what Germany did. Execute 150,000,000. Just saying. Slowly he will progressively move that way. If he is mysteriously able to run a third term, i will be convinced were dealing with principalities beyond our control. Otherwise a fulfillment of prophecy if i may. Not good news either..

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @Deborah Flynn Through our Creator’s plans would be the only viable means to do so successfully now.  it’s beyond mere human intervention to stop at this point; they’re down to the last 5 years of a  4 1/2 + centuries’ plan.

    • DanielMelton

      @Deborah Flynn There’s a book titled “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross that might give you some pointers.  It’s out of print, but I have seen links to a pdf on the internet.

  • Deborah Flynn

    These people can’t deal with the reality of the truth as you have shown me.

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @Deborah Flynn Not many can; some who have thought they could found out they couldn’t when it “stepped” on one of their “sacred cows”….

  • Deborah Flynn

    First they control your guns, then your means of survival, then your miinds………. it is evil at the core.

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @Deborah Flynn Guns and survival are somewhat easier to control than minds.  Their intention is the same “final solution” Hitler et al proposed for the Jews in the ’40s.

  • freebirds

    It makes me wonder how much they police what we look at and study on here even. Lord forbid that we have a mind of our own and have tasted our freedoms and we see right thru them. Educated people who are well informed and can’t be brain washed into there little schemes are there biggest threat.
    The white conservative Christian Man they figure is there stumbling block. What they forget to realize is theres a lot of good women standing right next to there man. And we will not sit idle as they strip us of our freedoms.

    • SandraLeeSmith

      @freebirds The Feds have been monitoring ALL radio traffic for decades; and all internet traffic since it first appeared as well; it’s mostly done electronically, but when certain key words are used it “triggers” a live {human} monitor, and the list of trigger words is ridiculous!  My sister and I can’t talk about the profession we share without triggering, and we’re NURSES!  That’s how crazy they are.  So if you’re concerned about “them” be aware that is going on.  It includes your cell phones as well as the internet, CB or ham radios, everything that goes out over the airwaves.  Oh and if you haven’t gotten a flu shot this year, DON’T; seems they’re trying to slip RFID chips into us via those now!  Besides they’re only at best about 15% effective anyway.

  • Richnjsouth

    tried to send the Birth Cert of bho…..but didnt go through to ssilv48……….try later.