Iran's Warning for the USA

Iran’s foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, delivered a message, and a warning for the USA.

In the next three weeks, we have a unique opportunity to make history: To forge a comprehensive agreement over Iran’s nuclear energy program, and to end an unnecessary crisis that has distracted us from addressing together our common challenges, such as the horrifying events of past few weeks in Iraq.

We could have resolved the nuclear issue in 2005. But then, people didn’t believe me when I said that Iranians are allergic to pressure.

The Bush administration torpedoed the deal by demanding that we abandon enrichment altogether.
They then opted for pressure and sanctions. For 8 years.

The sanctions were crippling — even deadly, literally.

Iranian cancer patients could not buy medicine with their own money, because banks around the world had been bullied by the US Treasury to avoid transferring Iranian funds.
But sanctions did not cripple our nuclear program.

Neither did the murder of our nuclear scientists, the sabotage of our nuclear facilities – with potentially disastrous environmental ramifications – or the repeated military threats.
In fact, they achieved exactly the opposite:

Insisting on no enrichment resulted in a 100-fold increase in our centrifuges: from less than 200 to almost 20,000;

Refusing to sell fuel for our American-built research reactor, forced us to produce our own fuel by increasing enrichment levels: from 3.5% to 20%;

Depriving Iranian cancer patients from medical radio-isotopes, compelled us to build a heavy water reactor, going from an idea then to a full-fledged plant, to be commissioned soon; and threats to bomb our nuclear facilities out of existence, obliged us to build Fordow, which is protected by our mountains.
Western governments cried foul, ignoring that they had brought this upon themselves.

As we approach July 20th, I feel compelled to warn again that pursuing a game of chicken in an attempt to extract last minute concessions cannot achieve anything better than what it achieved in 2005.

To those who continue to believe that sanctions brought Iran to the negotiating table, I can only say that pressure has been tried for the past 8 years, in fact for the past 35 years.

It didn’t bring the Iranian people to kneel in submission.
And it will not now nor in the future.
We still have time to exit this spiral of escalation.
Try mutual respect. It works.
We are trying to reach a deal.
Not a good deal or a bad deal, but a doable and lasting deal.
And any deal, by definition, is the outcome of mutual understanding—not imposition by one side or the other.

We are willing to take concrete measures to guarantee that our nuclear program will always remain peaceful.

We still have time to put an end to the myth that Iran is seeking to build a bomb.

And we’re backed by over 250 years of non-aggression to substantiate our assertion.

My government remains committed to ending this unnecessary crisis by July 20th. I hope my counterparts are, too.

My name is Javad Zarif, and this is Iran’s message.







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Onan is a graduate of Liberty University (2003) and earned his M.Ed. at Western Governors University in 2012. Onan lives in the Atlanta area with his wife, Leah. They have three children and enjoy the hectic pace of life in a young family. Onan and Leah are members of the Journey Church in Hiram, GA. Catch him at www.eaglerising.com

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  • CharlieSeattle

    …And we’re backed by over 250 years of non-aggression to substantiate our assertion.

    …………………………………….That is more B S!

    Iran supplies rockets and arms to Hamas and Hezbollah which are used to directly attack Israel.

    • abinico

      So what – that is Israhell’s problem. I lived in that part of the world for a while and can tell you that the jews treat the arabs like diseased dogs – the hate is mutual and deep. Let these arseholes figure out their own solution.

      • edwinrad

        Israel medically treated the wife of Hamas’ leader. They continually treat Palestinians that nobody else will.

        • abinico

          Yeah, right, except when a Palestinian claims land and then they get treated with an Israeli ak-47.

        • edwinrad

          When God created Israel He made a land covenant with Israel and the boundaries are outlined in Numbers 34. When the Lord Jesus Christ comes back Israel will get the rest of her land.
          The Palestinians are FAKE. Arafat said there’s no such thing as a Palestinian until he found he could use them to his advantage.

        • CharlieSeattle

          Taking God, and Allah and the religious BS out of the equation for a second.

          How is israel’s 3000+ year heritage to its land invalid?

          Because of Islamic conquest? OK, lets use that.

          Israel has taken it back. So deal with it!

        • edwinrad

          I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pro Israel.

        • CharlieSeattle

          Thinks it can read. But cannot comprehend. Sad.

        • dangkids

          NO MA’M, YOU ARE SAD!

        • dangkids

          GOD IS NOT BS CHARLIE.

          MAYBE YOU ARE, BUT NOT HE!

        • CharlieSeattle

          Remember, in the beginning man created god.

          …to explain natural events.
          …to control and direct the masses.

          God, Jesus, Allah, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are fables. Your faith is in B S written by man.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
          Then he is not omnipotent.

          Is he able, but not willing?
          Then he is malevolent.

          Is he both able and willing?
          Then whence cometh evil?

          Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God?”

          Epicurus (ancient Greek philosopher)

        • dangkids

          You can quote all day m’am, I COULD CARE LESS WHAT A GREEK PHILOSOPHER SAID 1000 + YEARS AGO. ALL THAT TALK IS HERE SAY. THE WORLD HAS MANY PHILOSOPHERS. SO WHAT? THAT IS AN OPINION!!

          ….Is he able, but not willing?
          Then he is malevolent……..

          WHEN YOU DENY GOD, THEN WHY WOULD HE HELP YOU? IF YOU GIVE HIM YOUR LIFE THEN HE WILL SAVE YOU. HE CREATED YOU FOR A PURPOSE AND A REASON, AND YOU WILL NOT DIE UNTIL IT IS YOUR TIME. WHO IS MALEVOLENT IF THEY CAN’T LIVE LIFE BY THE 10 COMMANDMENTS?

          YOU GIVE ME 100% PROOF THAT GOD IS NOT REAL AND I WILL GIVE YOU $1000. TODAY! AS WE SPEAK. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF MY FAITH. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T CARE DOESN’T MEAN HE DOESN’T EXIST.

          BTW, EVERYONE OF THOSE ‘QUOTES’ YOU PRODUCED ABOVE, ALL THOSE ANSWERS CAN BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE. IT DOESN’T TAKE MUCH EFFORT TO PICK IT UP AND READ! READ IT AGAIN, IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IT, THEN GET ON THE INTERNET AND FIND MORE VALUABLE INFORMATION.

          This much I will say, when you TAKE AWAY GOD FROM EVERYTHING, THOSE ‘QUOTES’ WILL HAPPEN AND HAVE.

          GOD GAVE US THE MOST VALUABLE AND USEFUL TOOLS, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS. HOW SIMPLE LIFE WOULD BE IF PEOPLE LIVED BY THOSE GOLDEN RULES.

          I KNOW I WORSHIP GOD, BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY.

        • CharlieSeattle

          An Opinion. yes. by a man that really existed.

          God is a fable, a myth.

          The bible is the word of Man!

        • dangkids

          PROVE TO ME THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE THE EARTH! NOW. RIGHT NOW, I WANT PROOF!!!

        • CharlieSeattle

          Duh, god does not exist, ergo…

        • dangkids

          YES. WORDS THAT WERE SPOKEN BY JESUS CHRIST. THAT WERE WRITTEN BY THE APOSTLES AND SAINTS.

          LOL, YOU ARE FUNNY.

        • CharlieSeattle

          Duh, god does not exist, ergo..

        • CharlieSeattle

          I exist.

          God is a fable, a myth.

        • dangkids

          PROVE IT!

        • CharlieSeattle

          Duh, god does not exist, ergo……

        • dangkids

          LOL, OMG, THE ONLY REASON YOU EXIST IS BECAUSE YOU WERE CREATED AS A GIFT OF LIFE FROM GOD.

          AND BTW, IF I WANT TO VOTE FOR MYSELF, I WILL. IF I WANT TO MISSPELL, I WILL. IF I WANT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS, I WILL.

          I AM FREE. MY SOUL IS FREE, MY HATE IS GONE MY CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR AND I HAVE TO ANSWER TO NO ONE BUT GOD!
          GOOD DAY, I WILL PRAY FOR YOU BECAUSE GOD SAID TO IN THE BIBLE! I WILL NOT LISTEN TO YOUR SPEWING LIES ANYMORE, BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE TO!! THAT IS THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE INTERNET, HA!!

          AND NOW, YOU ARE NOW BLOCKED FROM MY EMAILS.

        • ken.

          israelis don’t use ak-47’s, they use israeli made uzi’s and a few other israeli made weapons.

        • abinico

          Maybe they do now, but 30 years ago when I lived there saw a lot of ak-47.

        • CharlieSeattle

          So naive and ill read.

          Israeli special forces always carry ak-47’s, when undercover, posing as Hamas or Hezbollah vermin while operating on the other side of the wall in Gaza, Syria or the Egyptian Sinai.

          You attract less attention that way.

        • ken.

          undercover is not the same as regular troops, so naive and ill read.

        • CharlieSeattle

          …israelis don’t use ak-47’s

          Haha, now you spin your B S and get specific.

        • dangkids

          They can’t claim what isn’t theirs to begin with.

          But I have news for you, if you live in America today, you better be praying because at the rate illegals are rushing America, our country may soon end up as someone trying to overtake us.

          The GREAT part about it is going to be every American with a gun is going to get in that big fight, right along side the military.

        • southern tom

          …THE “Palestinians” don’t have a legitimate claim to any land… they are Jordanians by birth…

        • Jay Star

          They also allow Christians in to the holy land. Do you think the Palestinians would if they were in control? Doubtful!

        • edwinrad

          I agree with you Jay.

        • dangkids

          You are right edwinrad. Israel has helped thousands of Palestinian people with health problems. BUT EVERYONE SEEMS TO FORGET THAT!

          They had a great show on the Discovery channel about the Israelis and Palestinian people who live at the borders. A lot of those people get along fine and even eat together some times. They interviewed a Palestinian man and an Israeli man, who were neighbors at the west bank and they seemed happy as friends. They said they get along fine.

          GET RID OF THE HAMAS BS AND THE REST OF THE RADICALS AND THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE.

        • edwinrad

          Another problem are the Jews that follow the evil Talmud. That says Christ is in hell burning in His own excrement.
          There’s never going to be a real peace until the Prince of peace returns.

      • jerry1944

        I see you dont know God much are the Bible

      • CharlieSeattle

        Duh, …arabs ARE diseased dogs! islam is the crap they dump on the rest of world!

  • CharlieSeattle

    …the myth that Iran is seeking to build a bomb.

    …………………………………That is B S!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-11709428

    Iran’s nuclear programme became public in 2002, when an opposition group revealed secret activity including construction of a uranium enrichment plant at Natanz and a heavy-water reactor at Arak. Enriched uranium can be used to make nuclear weapons, and spent fuel from a heavy-water reactor contains plutonium suitable for a bomb.

    The Iranian government subsequently agreed to inspections by the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    But the IAEA was unable to confirm Iran’s assertions that its nuclear programme was exclusively for peaceful purposes and that it had not sought to develop nuclear weapons.

    This led the US and its European allies to press Iran to stop enriching uranium, which can be used for civilian nuclear purposes but also – if enriched to 90% purity – to build nuclear bombs.

    Ayatollah Khamenei, who is reported to have issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons, declared in 2009: “We fundamentally reject nuclear weapons and prohibit the use and production of nuclear weapons.”

    But the IAEA published a report in 2011 claiming “credible” information that Iran had carried out activities “relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device”.

    The report drew attention to a military complex at Parchin, south of Tehran, which the IAEA has been unable to visit since 2005.

  • joshuasweet

    so an accidental explosion could be blamed on an over site

  • Walt

    So, is Obama going to buy this BS?

    • Jay Star

      Of course he will, he uses the same BS on us!

  • Arizona Don

    There are going to be some who believe these lies. That however, does not change the fact it is still a lie. Why do I believe there are those in this country that will go along with this crap? Easy they fell for the obama BS didn’t they. However, I do not think we should even be in the middle east. But we should stay strong in every way including but not limited to Nuclear weapons. We should also inform them any act of aggression upon any ally will be treated as an assault on us and treated accordingly. If we have to go over there again go kick ars again and leave. Tell them try something again and except more of the same or worse. NO MORE NATION BUILDING. Let them clean up the damage. They have been fighting over there for 5 thousand years what makes us think we can stop it? Well we can’t! Furthermore, there isn’t even one country over there other then perhaps Israel worth even one American GI. Or even one bullet! None! Who paid for the cleanup in NY? What oil rich muslim country did the cleanup here. Or even offer to help? Any of them? Not no hell no! But muslims did it!

  • gregCall

    Israel along with India, Pakistan, and North Korea are rogue nuclear states operating outside the “nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty” (NPT). It would be foolish for Iran to sit idly by while an “Apartheid”, rogue nuclear state like Israel threatens their very existence by continually using the US military and international banking institutions to attempt to destabilize the region and cripple their economy.

    Israel has selflessly done so much for the west by having their people and lobbying organizations working so hard to promote “open borders” in all western nations, bringing us all the “blessings of diversity” and multiculturalism”. While generously doing this for our benefit, Israel, selflessly, denied themselves the same blessings.

    It’s time to open Israels borders and drag Israel into the 21st century with the rest of us. No longer can Israel remain an Apartheid state. Only Nazi’s would want an ethno-state in today’s world, and we all know Israel would never advocate Nazi positions as that would be hypocritical.

    OBI Open Borders for Israel
    Because Africans will bring much needed diversity to Israel.

    • edwinrad

      LOLOL, you have NO CLUE what apartheid means. God created Israel in Genesis 35:10 to put His Holy name, to bless the families of the earth(Genesis 12:3) and to bring salvation to the world, for salvation is of the Jew(John 4:22).
      That’s why Satan has fueled unbelievers with his hatred because the Lord Jesus Christ came through Israel and defeated him at the cross(Hebrews 2;14) along with sin and death.
      Satan still wants to destroy Israel so God’s FUTURE promises to Israel won’t come to pass making God a liar. That will never happen. After the dark days of the tribulation Israel has a glorious future in the Millennium.

      • gregCall

        a·part·heid

        əˈpärtˌ(h)āt,-ˌ(h)īt/

        noun

        historical

        noun: apartheid

        a policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race.

        There, now you know what “apartheid” means. Now you can try and spin how Israel doesn’t fit the term.

        Jesus said of the Jew –

        John 8:44-45King James Version (KJV)

        44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
        He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
        45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

        People like you always quote the old testament to support the Jews, but the Jews themselves no longer follow that text rather they follow the Satanic, racist, supremacist, and explicitly anti-christian Talmud. Modern Jews are no longer an old testament people and all those quote do not apply to the current people labeling themselves as Jews. Read the Talmud and educate yourself before speaking.

        OBI Open Borders for Israel
        Because Israel has shared the “blessings of diversity” with the western world and it’s time they took their own medicine and joined the rest of us in the 21st century.

        • edwinrad

          LOL, apartheid NO WAY fits Israel who has non Jews in their government and citizens of many nationalities.
          Jesus called those TALMUDIC Jews of their father the devil because they KNEW the scriptures and the scriptures fitted Jesus along with His miracles. They wanted a conquering Messiah.
          During the tribulation Israel will be purged and 2/3 will die(Zechariah 13:8). At the end of the tribulation when it looks like Israel will be destroyed she will cry out to God. At that moment Jesus will appear and Israel will look on Whom they’ve pierced(Zechariah 12:10), repent and receive their true Messiah. Christ, who is the spiritually blinding veil(2Cor 3:13-16) will be removed.
          Israel will enter the Millennium enjoying the New Covenant(Jeremiah 31).
          The 12 disciples will rule the 12 tribes(Matt. 19:28; Luke 22:30). Jerusalem will be the spiritual center of the earth and Jews will evangelize other nations(Zechariah 8:20-23).
          As God said, the sun, moon and stars will cease to exist before Israel does(Jeremiah 31:33-37).
          NOT every Jew follows the Talmud. For over 25yrs. an organization from Jersey called…The Friends of Israel, all born again Christian Jews have been sending missionaries to Israel.
          There are 15 congregations of born again Christian Jews in Jerusalem alone.

        • gregCall

          “LOL, apartheid NO WAY fits Israel who has non Jews in their government and citizens of many nationalities.”

          What planet do you live on? No non Jew can hold Israeli citizenship or even own property in Israel. While it is true that there is a small non Jewish minority with Israeli citizenship that comes from the few original Palestinian people allowed to remain within the newly formed Israel being granted citizenship and their descendants, also a non Jew can get citizenship by marrying and Israeli but usually upon divorce that citizenship is stripped. If you don’t believe that try and become an Israeli citizen as a non Jew.
          You seem to agree with me about the Talmudic Jews (who are who people refer to when they say Jews) but attempt to use scripture to defend them saying in effect – yeah they’re evil but after 2/3 of them are killed in the tribulation the remaining 1/3 will repent. How that excuses their current evil is anyone’s guess. You also mention Jewish converts to Christianity which is really not relevant when speaking of Talmudic Jews. I do however admire them if they go to Israel to act as Christian missionaries, I don’t think I could deal with Hassidic Rabbi’s spitting on me and I’m sure that’s part of their daily life there.

          OBI Open Borders for Israel
          Because Israel is simply too white.

        • edwinrad

          US FREEDOM

          Some
          1.8 million people, comprising some 24 percent of Israel’s population,
          are non-Jews. Although defined collectively as Arab citizens of Israel,
          they include a number of different, primarily Arabic-speaking, groups,
          each with distinct characteristics.

          PM Netanyahu (25 March 2012): “Israel’s minorities,
          including over one million citizens who are Arabs, always have full
          civil rights. Israel’s government will never tolerate discrimination
          against women. Israel’s Christian population will always be free to
          practice their faith. This is the only place in the Middle East where
          Christians are fully free to practice their faith. They don’t have to
          fear; they don’t have to flee. In a time where Christians are under
          siege in so many places, in so many lands in the Middle East, I’m proud
          that in Israel Christians are free to practice their faith and that
          there’s a thriving Christian community in Israel.”

          How that excuses their current evil? That can be asked of ANYONE who isn’t yet saved or born again.
          Israel by and large right now is in a NATURAL state but they will be SPIRITUAL when the Lord comes back. What’s left at the end of the tribulation will be saved(Romans 11:26).
          Did you know Netanyahoo’s father-in-law was a Bible scholar and that the P.M. holds weekly Bible studies?

    • Guest

      Were you a Ron Paul supporter, like Abinico? You terrorist lovers are unAmerican.

      • gregCall

        Not a Ron Paul supporter per se. Although any candidate would have been better than the losers presented by both major partys, not a single candidate truly representing the American people, just bought and paid for whores betraying the constitution for personal wealth and power.

        And no, I’m not a terrorist lover as I don’t support the illegal murderous state of Israel or their illegitimate control of our foreign policy.

        • edwinrad

          Murderous state of Israel?LOLOL For the rejection of Jesus Christ God scattered Israel worldwide to prevent their annihilation and then the Church Age began.
          The Church Age is about to end with the rapture(1Cor. 15:51-58; 1Thess. 4:13-17) and the tribulation will begin.
          Through human means, God birthed Israel in ONE DAY without the BIRTH PANGS of war like He said He would through His prophet(Isaiah 66:7,8) and since He’s been regathering from ALL countries(Isaiah 11:12; Ezekiel 36:24). God gave Israel that land in Numbers 34.
          As soon as Israel proclaimed statehood FIVE blood thirsty Arab armies attacked Israel. So WHO’S murderous?
          Israel had 36,000 rag tag ill trained fighters while the Arabs had modern equipment and AIR POWER.
          Yep, Israel is a miracle because Israel back in the land God gave her is His will.

        • gregCall

          The “rapture” LOL, I love pop culture Christianity.
          The rapture is a modern creation to make stupid people feel special, there is nothing in the bible about any “rapture” and in fact a “rapture” would go against gods purpose. Read the bible and stop listening to crap dreamed up by televangelists. Read the Bible, the tribulation is a test of faith for the followers of Christ. To be removed from it by a magical “rapture” would defeat gods plan.

          OBI Open Borders for Israel
          Because Africans will enrich Israeli society.

        • edwinrad

          Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth(Rev. 3:10).
          There’s now NO CONDEMNATION to those that are in Christ(Romans 8:1).
          The tribulation is for:
          1) To save Jews and gentiles.
          2) To punish unbelievers.
          3) To bring Israel to recognize her true Messiah.
          The Church is NOT appointed unto wrath(1Thess. 1:10, 5:9).
          The rapture concept is in 1Cor. 15:51-58; 1Thess. 4:13-17).

          REFUTE with scripture these proofs.

          Sixteen scriptural proofs that the rapture is pre-tribulation *
          Proof #1: Revelation 19:11-21 doesn’t mention a resurrection.

          The rapture is a resurrection of those “in Christ” (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Isn’t it a little bit odd that
          in Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the second coming of Christ, there is no mention of a resurrection?
          The rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds of millions of Christians
          will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn’t any mention here. Don’t you think it deserves at least one
          verse? The rapture isn’t mentioned because it doesn’t happen at the second coming.

          Proof #2: Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn’t mention a resurrection.

          This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the second coming. Again, no mention of a resurrection.

          Proof #3: Two different pictures are painted.

          In the Old Testament, there were two different pictures painted of the Messiah—one suffering (Isa. 53:2-10, Ps.
          22:6-8, 11-18) and one reigning as King (Ps. 2:6-12, Zech. 14:9,16). As we look back on these scriptures, we see
          they predicted two separate comings of the Messiah—the 1st coming as a suffering Messiah and the 2nd coming (still
          future) as a reigning King.

          In the New Testament, we have another picture added. Again, we have two pictures painted which don’t look the same.
          These two different descriptions of Jesus’ coming point to two separate events we call “the rapture”
          and “the second coming.”

          Proof #4: The Known Day and the Unknown Day.

          Concerning the return of Jesus, the Bible presents a day we can’t know and a day we can know. Matthew 25:13 says
          Jesus will return at an unknown time, while Revelation 12:6 says the Jews will have to wait 1,260 days for the
          Lord to return. The 1,260 days begins when the Antichrist stands in the Temple and declares himself to be God (Matt.
          24:15-21, 2 Thess. 2:4) This event will take place at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation (Dan 9:27). The
          Antichrist has authority to rule for 42 months, which is 1,260 days (Rev. 13:4) and will be destroyed by Jesus
          at His second coming (Rev. 19:20, 2 Thess. 2:8). The known and unknown days must happen at different times, meaning
          they are two separate events.

          Proof #5: A door open in heaven (Revelation 4:1).

          The door in heaven is opened to let John into heaven. We believe John’s call into heaven is prophetic of the Church
          being caught up at the rapture (see proof #6). In Revelation 19:11, heaven is opened again, this time to let the
          armies which are already in heaven out. This is the Church, which has been raptured at a previous time, following
          Jesus out of heaven at the second coming.

          Proof #6: “Come up here.” (Revelation 4:1).

          A voice called for the apostle John to “Come up here,” and immediately he was in heaven. This could be
          a prophetic reference to the rapture of the Church. The words “Come up here” are spoken to the two witnesses
          who are killed in the middle of the Tribulation, who are resurrected and ascend into heaven (Rev. 11:12). Therefore,
          the phrase “Come up here” could mean the Church is raptured in Rev. 4:1. The word “Church”
          is mentioned 22 times in Rev. 1-3, but is not mentioned again until Rev. 22:17.

          **Proof #7: The 24 elders have their crowns.

          After John is called up into heaven, he sees the 24 elders with their crowns (Rev. 4:4-10). We know that Christians
          will receive their rewards (crowns) at the rapture (2 Tim. 4:8, 1 Pet. 5:4). We will be repaid at the resurrection
          of the righteous (Luke 14:14). The elders couldn’t receive their crowns unless the resurrection (rapture) has taken
          place.

          Proof #8 Holy ones are already with Jesus in heaven (Zech. 14:5, Rev. 19:14).

          The armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, follow Jesus out of heaven at His second coming (Rev. 19:14, Zech.
          14:5, Col. 3:4). These are not angels because Rev. 19:8 tells us the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints.
          In order to come out of heaven we first have to go in, indicating a previous rapture.

          Proof #9: Kept from the hour of testing (Rev. 3:10).

          Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation).
          Some have wrongly believed “keep” means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation. Suppose
          you approach a high voltage area with a sign that says, “Keep Out.” Does that mean you can enter and
          be protected? No, it means you are forbidden from entering the area. But this verse also says He will keep us from
          the hour of testing. It is not just the testing, but the time period. If a student is excused from a test, he still
          may have to sit in the class while others take the test. But if he is excused from the hour of testing, he can
          go home. The Church will be called home before the hour of testing.

          Proof #10: Angels don’t resurrect people when they gather them for judgment.

          When the angels are sent forth to gather the elect at the second coming (Matt. 24:29-31), some have wrongly interpreted
          this as the rapture. There is one huge problem with this interpretation. If we are resurrected at this time, why
          would we need angels to gather us? In the resurrection, we will be like the angels (Matt. 22:30), able to travel
          in the air at will. Obviously, these people who are gathered are not resurrected, therefore it can’t be the rapture.
          No one would claim the wicked are raptured at this time, yet Matthew 13:39-41, 49 says the angels will not only
          gather the elect, but also the wicked. This gathering is not a resurrection.

          Proof #11: Both wicked and righteous both can’t be taken first.

          First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew 13:30, 49 says
          the wicked are taken first and righteous are left behind. This points to two separate events, the rapture and the
          second coming.

          Proof #12: Jesus returns from the wedding.

          When Jesus returns to earth at the second coming, He will return from a wedding (Luke 12:36). At the rapture, Jesus
          is married to His bride, the Church. After the wedding, He will return to earth.

          Proof #13: Jesus will receive us to Himself, not us to receive Him (John 14:2-3).

          Jesus said He would prepare a place for the Church in heaven, then He would come again to receive us to Himself.
          Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and then not take us there? At the rapture, He will come to receive
          us to Himself, “that where I am (heaven), there you may be also.” If the rapture occurred at the same
          time as the second coming, we would go up to the clouds and then immediately come back to earth. That would contradict
          John 14:2-3.

          Proof #14: The one who restrains is taken out of the way.

          In 2 Thess. 2:6-7, Paul says “the one who restrains will be taken out of the way” before the Antichrist
          can be revealed. We believe this refers to the rapture because the Church is clearly the biggest obstacle to the
          Antichrist becoming a world ruler.

          Proof #15: The separation of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-46).

          If the rapture occurred at the second coming, why would the sheep and the goats need to be separated immediately
          after the second coming? A rapture at the second coming would have already separated the sheep and the goats. With
          a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture will need to be separated after the second coming.

          Proof #16: Who will populate the Millennium?

          If the rapture occurs at the second coming and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will be left to
          populate the millennium? Only people in their natural (non-resurrected) bodies will be able to have children (Matt.
          22:30). With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture who are alive at the second coming will
          populate the earth during the Millennium

    • dangkids

      …It would be foolish for Iran to sit idly by while an “Apartheid”, …….

      OMG, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!
      READ YOUR STUPID POST MORON. IRAN IS SITTING BY FOR NOTHING MORE TO BUILD A NUCLEAR WEAPON TO (QUOTE)’
      BLOW ISRAEL OFF THE MAP” (UNQUOTE)..SAID BY MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD!! YES IT CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE MAN’S MOUTH! WHY BECAUSE HE IF FULL OF HATE.

      • gregCall

        “BLOW ISRAEL OFF THE MAP”..SAID BY MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD
        Nope, the quote your thinking of is probably this in 2008.
        “Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken. Today the reason for the Zionist regime’s existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation.”
        He also said this in 2012.
        “Any freedom lover and justice seeker in the world must do its best for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the path for the establishment of justice and freedom in the world, and that the ultimate objective of world forces must be the annihilation of the Zionist regime”
        And
        “The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to humanity” and that “the Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if one cell of them is left in one inch of (Palestinian) land, in the future this story (of Israel’s existence) will repeat.” Ahmadinejad also said “the nations of the region will soon finish off the usurper Zionists in the Palestinian land”
        He also said in 2013.
        That Israel “has no place in the region.”
        The 2008 statement was the one widely reported on networks like Fox news as “Blow Israel off the map” but that was just at best a mistranslation and at worst yellow journalism.
        I’m glad to see you aren’t voting up your own post this time(yet), and seem to have improved your spelling and grammar somewhat.

        OBI Open Borders for Israel
        Because Israel needs to learn tolerance and embrace the multicultural future.

  • abinico

    Get the F’ing jews out of our government! Iran means nothing to the U.S. – we do not need their oil, nor their hummus – Iran is a NOPT to the US; the only reason Iran is an issue is because the Israeli jews are playing the goys for fools – it is the jews favorite tactic to have the goys fight their wars for them

    • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

      This is not true and Israel…. But no need to explain to you that all Jews are not like George Soros

      • abinico

        Is that the best you can do is simply mouth that my statement is not true? It is true – American foreign policy is controlled and designed by jews. Just look at all the jews in federal government – vastly out of proportion to the population – why? cause they want to control this country’s resources for their own benefit.

        • Guest

          I know another idiot, like you, who feels the same way about Israel, Ron Paul. But you sure do admire the terrorists.

        • abinico

          Go kiss your jew master’s arse hole.

        • Guest

          Is that all you got, Paulbot? You really scared the crap out of me, LOL. You’re nothing but a terrorist loving piece of crap.

        • abinico

          You are so afraid of the truth, aren’t you? What terrifies you most is that you can’t fool people forever, and the day will come when the American people will say ‘enough already’ to the jews. This will happen – I will have the last LOL!

        • edwinrad

          At the return of the Lord God Jesus Christ He will SMITE the enemies and enemy nations of Israel(Rev. 19:15) and Israel will enter the Millennium enjoying the New Covenant(Jeremiah 31).
          The 12 disciples will rule the 12 tribes(Matt. 19:28; Luke 22:30). Jerusalem will be the spiritual center of the earth and Jews will evangelize other nations(Zechariah 8:20-23).

        • abinico

          I have spent a lot of time in Jerusalem and it is a center only for the deluded and insane.

        • edwinrad

          Then WHY did you spend a lot of time there? People that have been there say they felt the presence of God’s Spirit and peace.

        • abinico

          I was there on work assignment. Got extra 25% pay for going there, plus ALL expenses paid. And how anyone can feel peace with all those Uzis and .45s – beyond me.

        • edwinrad

          I was never there. That’s what I’ve been told. I guess you have to be atuned to the Holy Spirit.

        • Jay Star

          Too bad you have such a hard heart like our president toward Jews and Christians alike!

        • abinico

          I am a Pagan; my religion is Wicca; and the damage done to earth and people by Wiccans is zero compared to the travesties of Jews and Christians. To worship animals, Gaia, and the Infinite may look like a ‘hard heart’ to someone like you, but to me people who support GMOs, nuclear energy, dirty oil, toxic western medicine, militarism- they are the ones with a hard heart, if any. Get it?

        • edwinrad

          The earth abides forever(Ecclesiastes 1:4). This is a fallen world and Satan is the god of this world(2Cor. 4:4) for now and he uses LOST people like pagans to start wars and cause damage like hurricanes etc. He comes not but to kill, rob and destroy(John 10:10).
          This is about to end with the return of the Lord God Jesus Christ and Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit(Rev. 20:1-3).
          If you’re thinking of the crusades etc. They were NOT Christians. They were mere religionists and religion is spawned by Satan. He’s responsible for every war there ever was.

        • dangkids

          WHAT ABOUT THE MUDSLIMES? DO YOU FEEL THEY ARE JUSTIFIED IN WHAT THEY DO? DELUDED AND INSANE?

          YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP. YOU ARE ONLY ONE PERSON’S OPINION, DA!
          I KNOW MILITARY WHO HAS BEEN THERE AND ‘SPENT A LOT OF TIME ALSO’, THEY SAY THE MUSLIMS WHO LIVE THERE DO NOTHING BUT TRASH ISRAEL AND DESTROY ALL THE ANCIENT PLACES.

        • abinico

          Usury, the greatest method of theft of working people’s wealth is a Jewish invention. And over time the Jews have distorted reality and morality with their twisted rationalizations of this theft – nutball concepts like time value of money and reward for waiting – that is pure nonsense! Islamic law strictly forbids the giving or receiving of interest and that is why the New York Jews are hell bent on Muslim countries like Iran.

        • Jay Star

          Not according to our bible, maybe you are thinking Koran.

        • abinico

          No, I am not thinking Koran. Both the Bible and Koran are zealot’s fantasy texts compared to the greatest words of wisdom ever written, the ‘Tao Te Ching’.

        • Jay Star

          Just who or what race is causing all the trouble in the middle east? Are the Jews going from country to country trying to take over? Are they executing Christians everywhere they can? I am amazed at the restraint that Israel has toward its enemies! If it was my home I dont think I could be held back for any reason. The only thing I agree on is we should not be a world police force!

        • dangkids

          THANK YOU JAY!

          PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID AND KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT GOES ON OVER THERE TODAY. I WANT TO KNOW IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN ISRAEL RIGHT NOW? PROBABLY NOT. SO THEY DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING LIKE THEY THINK.

        • gregCall

          Israel created “terrorism”.

          OBI Open Borders for Israel
          Because with all the work Jews do to promote “multi- culturalism” Israel can’t be allowed to lag behind.

    • edwinrad

      Not everyone in Israel is a Talmudic Jew. There are unbelievers, orthodox Jews and born again Christian Jews with 15 congregations in Jerusalem alone.
      When Israel rejected Jesus Christ God scattered them worldwide to protect them from annihilation till the end of the Church Age which is about to end and that’s why God is regathering them from all countries(Ezekiel 36:24).
      Through human means, God birthed Israel in ONE DAY without the BIRTH PANGS of war like He said He would through His prophet(Isaiah 66:7,8).

      There is a story that, during one harsh tank battle in one of our
      wars, the enemy clearly had the upper hand. Every Jewish soldier on
      that battlefield knew that the battle was lost and that, within perhaps
      an hour, Arab tanks would break through the Jewish line and have an
      unobstructed run to Tel Aviv. Then, inexplicably, the Arab tanks pulled
      back, retreating.
      That retreat saved Israel. After the war, the
      Arab tank commander was reportedly interviewed. When asked why he had
      retreated when, in fact, he was so obviously close to victory, he is
      said to have replied, ‘We saw Angels on the Israeli side. My men became
      frightened. I do not fight Angels.’

      This is just one of
      several stories of Angels protecting Jews in Israel’s modern wars. Jews
      in our modern battles have—on an individual basis– always spoken of
      inexplicable occurrences. They have spoken of miracles.

  • Saltporkdoc

    Yeah and I…
    am Winnie the Pooh!
    from the government and I’m here to help you.
    will still respect you in the morning.
    promise I won’t tell the rest of the team!
    only want to undo one more button so I can just look!
    gave at the office.
    just put the check in the mail.
    believe islam is a peacful and tolerant religion. [Actually I believe it is nothing more than a cult!]

  • abinico

    I lived and worked in the middle east, mostly in Israel. I have no special love for either the jews, nor the arabs. Those people are all hate filled nut jobs. However, I do resent the jews undermining US democracy and coercing US aid. The jews have no business stealing hard working Americans wealth for their own squabbles.

  • Realityland

    If we had a real leader as President or Secy. of State they’d say “Mr. Zarif, we have no issue with any peaceable nation seeking peaceful nuclear power. But you have shown by your actions and rhetoric that you aren’t peaceable. You threaten to blow other nations off of the map and you export terror by proxy…and we have the proof. Renounce & discontinue these actions and you’ll find in us an ally rather than a foe”

    • gregCall

      Being a “terrorist state” and maintaining illegal nuclear weapons worked out so well for Israel I’m sure things will also go well for Iran, I mean we don’t support double standards do we?

      OBI Open Borders for Israel
      Because as every Jewish group preaches to us,”diversity is a blessing”, and Israel needs all the “blessing” it can get.

  • abinico

    Get the jews out of the U.S. government – problem solved. The jews have co-opted our democracy into their personal vendetta machine. The jews love to see ‘goys’ die for their cause, and then they laugh about the goy’s stupidity. ATTN: jew loving senators and representatives – your days are numbered – you were elected to serve the American people, not the jews.

  • http://www.twitter.com/changeirannow ChangeIranNow

    There is not going to be any deal so long as Iran maintains its position to expand its centrifuge refining capacity in nuclear talks, refuses to improve its human rights situation or abandon its support of Hezbollah and Assad in Syria, which is a red line Khamenei will not cross.

    Reducing their capacity as the West wants, will be the fatal blow to Iran’s nuclear ambitions and as such will be the primary reason why any agreement won’t be reached. Iran hopes though that any cooperation on Iraq announced will be viewed as positive by both sides since neither side can afford a total collapse in Iraq. Iran needs a deal badly to get keep its Shiite ally alive. Unfortunately for Iran, the West, especially US Congressmen will oppose any deal without guarantees that Iran will abandon any effort to meddle in Iraq from now on and rightly so.

  • Alleged Comment

    Is he Moslem?

    Moslems can lie to non-Moslems making the useless to anybody.

    • gregCall

      So can Jews, it’s called the law of the “other” which states that any agreement between Jew and non Jew isn’t morally binding, so if you ever deal with a Jew make sure it’s legally binding because they can lie, steal, and cheat a non Jew with a clear conscience.

      OBI Open Borders for Israel
      Because otherwise Israeli’s are just “Nazi’s”.

  • Grant Kuhns

    Can someone tell me why Iran needs to build nuclear bombs when they can buy them from at least three sources that I can think of right now?

  • Jay Star

    Nice speech if they were not allowed to lie to the infidels! More trust is given by action than talk!

  • joshuasweet

    Obama’s dream come true an excuse to join them

  • abinico

    Islamic law strictly forbids the giving, or receiving of interest, and that is why the New York Jews are hell bent on destroying Muslim countries, the people, and their religion. And BTW, usury was considered a mortal sin by the Church, until the Church was infiltrated by Satanists jews.