Obama Wins, America Loses: Where Do We Go From Here?

We’ve reached the tipping point, folks. This election was the last hope for the American republic. We are now brazenly running toward Greece. How that will manifest in the coming years remains to be seen. We will certainly see our healthcare quality crumble, while costs soar–which has already begun; we will see spending continue to skyrocket; we will see entitlement programs expand, and we will see our country fall.

This reminds me of something Professor Alexander Tyler wrote in 1787. Tyler was a Scottish lawyer and writer. He came up with what I refer to as The Seven Steps of Democracy. Each step follows a sequence that begins with bondage and ultimately ends right back where it started.

1. From Bondage to spiritual faith: The English colonists of the United States felt they were being oppressed, and began to inspire a spiritual and political awakening.

2. From spiritual faith to great courage: The religiously and politically oppressed colonists finally decided to rebel against England and take their independence.

3. From courage to liberty: The courage to start a rebellion led to a revolution against England, and ultimately a victory.

4. From liberty to abundance: After victory, we grew as a nation. We experienced an industrial revolution, and soon our country sat in abundance.

5. From abundance to complacency: As a country, we became complacent in our wealth and comfort.

6. From complacency to apathy: Following that, we began to lose our ability to care about what happened in the country, particularly in politics. We began to accept larger government in our lives, without much thought as to how it would later effect us.

7. From apathy to dependence: As the government grew, we began to rely on the government to take care of us and provide for us. We began to rely on social security, welfare, food-stamps, and other programs.

8. From dependence back into bondage: Out of this growing dependency, we will fall farther and farther down the rabbit hole, and find ourselves in Greece. Financial collapse, riots, social decline, and ultimately bondage. Then we are back where we started.

Up until now, we were at the tipping point; balancing on the edge of dependency versus independence. This was the defining election that would decide whether we stayed on the edge or slipped off the cliff. With the Obama win, we have now slipped of the cliff. But really, what does that mean?

That means, barring any return to sane financial policies in 2016, we are heading from step seven to step eight. That’s the last step, folks.

It was a razor thin election; 49% to 49% in the popular vote. So it’s not as though it was a landslide. However, this is only the tipping point. As time goes by, it will only get worse.

In summary:

If our country can re-elect Barack Obama with unemployment standing at 7.9% (higher than when he was elected in 2008), the Benghazi debacle, a socialized healthcare system (which has failed in every other country in which it has been implemented), an additional $6 trillion in debt (after promising to cut the deficit in half), food-stamp usage at a record breaking high, and welfare use continuing to rise, we have surely moved from step seven on to step eight.

There is hope in the fact that the Republicans still remain in control of the House of Representatives. But as I see it, our country is headed down the final stretches of a dangerous path. The Republican Party does not need to fundamentally restructure; it needs to better articulate its message; looking to rising, conservative stars in the party, such as Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte, Mia Love, Mike Pence, Bobby Jindal and others to create a new conservative movement. These people are the last hope to reverse our decline.

I’ll leave you with a quote from Bruce Barton:

“Action and reaction, ebb and flow, trial and error, change – this is the rhythm of living. Out of our over-confidence, fear; out of our fear, clearer vision, fresh hope. And out of hope, progress.”







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  • Believer2

    I agree with all the article except , this was the last tipping point , The Dictator will now do as he pleases ,in the last 4 years he did what he wanted and bypassed any votes , unless he could buy a win ,he will write his own laws , and I sincerely believe America just saw it’s last election . Next they will tear down the flag and call it unlawful , those who defend it will be called infidels and terrorist , but now with a more severe penalty,(refer to Koran ) according to shariah law , which this dictator lives by , he was able to have his followers destroy ballots , falsify votes , coverup his desertion of Americans , coverup the real numbers of unemployment about to now be released , still he was not challenged on his forged birth certificate, or eligibility, he bought or theatened the courts into submitting to him . America said we don’t want obamacare , he had back up close by , in case something went wrong with election , Russian war subs within 200 miles of our coast , and the black panthers , stand ready , Iran almost finished with their nukes so they can destroy Israel,illegals armed with guns he let walk into their hands  I think the word election is now a thing of the past ,

    • thethinman

      @Believer2 Isn’t it wonderful to be living in this day and age – a nice cold mug of beer, a good nights sleep, lo and behold, you will wake up in the morning, the sun will come up, you are above the turf, LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT.

      • TexasOrBust

        @thethinman  @Believer2   You are stupid enough to believe that no outside influence makes a difference in the kind of life you have?

        • chamuiel

          @TexasOrBust  @thethinman  @Believer2  I am sure the outside influence of obama will make a bad difference in my life. It already has. He took 716 billion from Medicare to give healthcare to illegal aliens and the Sandra Flukes of this country.

      • NavyJR

        @thethinman You can only “make” of it what the dictator will ALLOW you to make of it!  IF you believe anything different, you’re either naive or willfully ignorant of the reality!

      • chamuiel

        @thethinman So, you like your country in the cesspool and being ran by a narcissic muslim socialist! Gotcha!

    • NavyJR

      @Believer2 It’s already  been  removed from AF One, and been deemee “unlawful” for students to wear apparel bearing the flag in MANY schools around the nation; unless it’s the MEXICAN flag!  The national anthem will be outlawed as well, and all religion except Islam!  As for those who defend it, we were named as potential domestic terrorists some 3 years ago!   The only “changes” we can expect will be for the WORSE across the board; Boehner is already talking “compromise” which means CAPITULATION to the Dems agenda!

      • JohnEmery

        @NavyJR  @Believer2 It’s time for another American Revolution against a king.

        • NavyJR

          @JohnEmery As  a veteran, much as I deplore the notion of such a war, unfortunately, I believe secession and civil war or revolution are the only avenues left to us; the ballot box has been corrupted to the point it’s failed completely, and there is no other option but the bullet box now.

    • Sephus

      @Believer2 EXECUTIVE ORDERS ISSUED.
      Teddy Roosevelt 3
      Others to FDR NONE
      FDR 11 in 16 years
      Truman 5 in 7 years
      Ike 2 in 8 years
      Kennedy 4 in 3 years
      LBJ 4 in 5 years
      Nixon 1 in 6 years
      Ford 3 in 2 years
      Carter 3 in 4 years
      Reagan 5 in 8 years
      Bush 3 in 4 years
      Clinton 15 in 8 years
      George W. Bush 62 in 8 years
      Obama 923 in 3 1/2 years!

      • chamuiel

        @Sephus  @Believer2  I knew it was bad. I did not know it was that bad.

  • tarco

    The sad reality of it all most of us will feel the wrath with the exception of all the government related uberrich.

  • thethinman

    Hell in a hand basket comes to mind.

  • JohnEmery

    We are now officially a stupid nation. 14% unemployment, 16 trillion in debt, 50% of the people are bottom-feeders that pay no income tax and we re-elect a jerk muslim and his court jester v.p. We are no longer the USA. We are now the UASS, The Union of Amerikan Socialist States. God help us.

  • TexasOrBust

    My quote for today:  “Obama is a turb in the a$$ of a constipated America!”

  • SteveStaley

    Anyone seen the movie “Idiocracy”?  We’re there!

  • Straightline

    Now to convince Hopefully the GOP House will force sequestration to happen and end the Bush tax cuts for everyone. That will spell the end of America as we know it and maybe that is what we need. Burn it all down and start over. Sooo…nothing has changed at all. 4 more years of gridlock, lies, demonization and lack of leadership. Except you can now marry your dog and you don’t need ID to do it

  • Straightline

    Hopefully the GOP House will force sequestration to happen and end the Bush tax cuts for everyone. That will spell the end of America as we know it and maybe that is what we need. Burn it all down and start over.

    • ColleenFontenot

      @Straightline : how stupid is that?

      • chamuiel

        @ColleenFontenot  Not anywhere as stupid as you, if you can still ask that question.

  • MikeInman

    We did not just lose an election yesterday.  We lost our country. ObamaCare reigns and seniors are losing significant medical care including Drs. leaving their practices. … Including money take out of Medicare … Including huge tax increases built into Obamacare Loss of our Constitution … by a President who wants a treaty with UN Control of our guns abrogading our 2nd Amendment … by a President who has abandoned our 1st Amendment which had previously granted us Freedom of Religion to  now telling us what our religion cannot include. Loss of our ability to provide energy independence which otherwise was well within our grasp Loss an identity that we are a people who are independent and choose to achieve through our individual achievements … to a people who believe the government owes us a living of handouts on top of handouts This is just a short list… WELOME to the Socialist States of America led by Premier Obama.

    • chamuiel

      @MikeInman Well said!

  • MikeInman

    We did not just lose an election yesterday.  We lost our country. ObamaCare reigns and seniors are losing significant medical care including Drs. leaving their practices. … Including money take out of Medicare … Including huge tax increases built into Obamacare Loss of our Constitution … by a President who wants a treaty with UN Control of our guns abrogading our 2nd Amendment … by a President who has abandoned our 1st Amendment which had previously granted us Freedom of Religion to  now telling us what our religion cannot include. Loss of our ability to provide energy independence which otherwise was well within our grasp Loss an identity that we are a people who are independent and choose to achieve through our individual achievements … to a people who believe the government owes us a living of handouts on top of handouts This is just a short list… WELOME to the Socialist States of America led by Premier Obama.

  • ColleenFontenot

    Run, don’t walk to your nearest sporting goods store or gun shop and stock up now.  Then buy gold and silver coins and hide them.  Better make sure you have lots of long term storage food/water/medical supplies.

  • RememberTheAlamo

    A younger, tougher candidate (not Christie BTW), a clearer message and a smarter campaign, The worm will turn.

  • Straightline

    So it seems America really is more interested in network sitcoms with gay themes than the future of our country. Apathy has become complacency and the public at large… mere cattle.
     
    I am ashamed of my fellow Americans.

    • chamuiel

      @Straightline  You, and me both. I am for the first time in my life ashamed of my country. Half of the people in this country are blind and refuse to see what is right in front of them. In 2008, I could not understand how so many Americans could elect obama. Then I thought maybe they were just blinded by that hopey – changey stuff and were gullible enough to fall for it. I honestly thought after 4 years of disasters from obama that the people would wake up and see him for what he is. Since they reelected him, I have to now think they are just plain stupid or don’t care or both.

      • Straightline

        @chamuiel I Know, but I don’t get it. I really thought that after 2010 people were more aware.
         
        We can blame the MSM media in part for refusing to tell the ABC, CBS, and NBC watching cattle about Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the debt. increased poverty etc, etc etc.
         
         But I still don’t understand how or why this happened.

      • ME

        @chamuiel  @Straightline That is slightly over half the country. Give us who tried real hard credit for the effort.  I am sure you are one of the fryers too. However, I do agree this is a President of the fools of this country but don’t be ashamed of the non foolish.

        • chamuiel

          @Straightline Let me clarify myself. I am ashamed of the portions of the country who were stupid enough to reelect obama.
           
           
          I am and will say I am beginning to feel as if it is no longer my country.

  • publius

    If you look throughout history, there are cycle of oppression, rebellion, “freedom”, decline back to oppression and the cycle starts again. Granted our “freedom” was unique, however, many countries have rebelled against foreign or internal oppressors. We are one the downhil side of the cycle. How long we wil be in the trough is anyone’s guess. Some day the breath of freedom will come again, but I’m afraid not in our life times. It took the Left over 100 years to achieve this goal. It may take 100 years to get back to any semblence of what we once were.

  • Bruce Feher

    Taxpayer STRIKE!

    • DWinch

      Fine, now all we need is a president of our own!

  • TexasRepublican

    Socialize health care has not failed in other countries. In fact it is succeeding. This rhetoric of heading to dependance is a farce. Americans don’t depend on the government and those that re-elected President Obama realize that. We will be moving the country forward while those that don’t want to move forward will try to obstruct and stop progress. The president has been about freedom, yet those opposing him say he isn’t. Looking back over the last 4 years I see the president and the democrats in the senate trying to move the country in a positive direction; ensuring that the government is out of your lives; giving you individual freedoms rather than parry rhetoric. The republicans however want the government to oppress you and stop all your freedoms. They play to the guise that the democrats want big government. Not true. Republicans want to be in your house telling you what to do, how you do it and who you do it with.
     
    The idea that doctors will leave their practices because of the affordable care act is ridiculous. Why? Because if they do, some other person will take over their business from the one that wants to quit.

    • Realist

      do you live under a rock?

      • chamuiel

        Realist, No, I am sorry we are not neighbors.

      • mudguy

        Tell me what the democrats have done in the Senate in the past four years for jobs, Oh how about a budget, none for four years, not even one vote for Obummers budget. What do you consider a positive direction, 6 trillion more  debt, 4,000 dollars less take home pay, unemployment almost 8%, gas and food prices higher, interest on savings(IRAs) around 1%. Oh yes and more individual  freedom like forcing you to buy heath Insurance sounds like freedom to me. No it sounds like it won’t  be the USA any more but USSA ( United Socialist States of America)

        • mudguy

          This above  was meant for TexasRepulican

    • TEAGO

      Drink the Kool aid, did ya?

    • merriel46

      Hey Tex:   How many people do you know that live in other countries?  Socialized health care is NOT working in other countries.  Some people have to wait for months to get an appointment with a doctor, some die while waiting.  Only the most critical health problems are treated immediately.

    • pumpman

      Wow are you confused and yes full of kool aid

      • chamuiel

        @pumpman , are you full of blue kool aid?

    • Therese

      TexasRepublican…Wow!  Have another big helping of Kool-Aid?!  Seriously?  Obama and the Dems have stolen our personal freedoms to the point we need bureaucrats to dictate to us what to eat,  what appliances to buy, what cars to drive, whether we are deserving of healthcare services, etc.
      Only through small government and constitutional principles will we have economic and personal freedom.  Obama and his Socialist/Dem Party are the antithesis to freedom.  Open your eyes! … And while you’re at it,  you might want to cut back on the Kool-Aid.

    • ALL4ONEandONE4ALL

      Surely your rose colored glasses are broken!!

      • chamuiel

        @ALL4ONEandONE4ALL Whom are you replying to?

    • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

      I have to see at least three Doctors a mouth and they all have told they will either work three days a week or go home. I am not sure where you have been for the last four years, but this Adminisration has done all it can to get people to depend on the Govenrment. With record high numbers on food stamps, disability welfare and any other hand out, no Sir you are dead wrong about the health care, in Houston there are so many people from other countries that have come there because they could not get the can of health care that we have or had in America. Like in Canada you are on a list for surgery and of they fill like there is some one else that needs that surgery worst than you, you have to wait. Why is France asking for a 75% tax rate, and all the countries over in Europe that are going bankrupt. The picture you painted sure is not here in America.

    • chamuiel

      @TexasRepublican, I take it your name is just another one of your lies. No where they have socialized medicine, do they like it. Canadians, and Brits come to the U.S. for heath care, but that won’t last much longer.
       
      Positive direction for you means moving towards a Socialist state. Thank for  clearing that up.

    • jrtabone48

      Hey Tex, the president and the demoncraps in the senate do not give freedoms, they take it fool !  Only God has endowed us with our freedom and our inalieable rights, and if we choose we can hand our freedom over to those who want to oppress.

    • mudguy

      Have you checked lately with with our neighbors to the north. They are going broke. Hope like a government who will tell you how and when you  can die. Or tell you that you are to old to have stint put in or have knee or hip replaced. Or tell you that you can’t even pay out of your own money for a procedure or operation. Sound like gooooood system to me.

    • FAAQ2

      Texas WTH have you been smoking ?? Welfare went from  31 million to 47 million – how is that a good thing. And since people who don’t have to work but get everything handed to them will continue to vote for Obama and his socialist programs. So when the USA is no longer what then ? You of course will just sit there and so OH it wasn’t important “we are better off being Communist”  Is that Texas -is that where your disturbed mind goes??  Well god luck with that !  democrats passed Obamcare without even knowing what it said – how pathetic is that ?  The saying is if t”hey were going to give the world an enema – they would put the tube in Texas” Well I can see why !

    • TEAGO

      Well, when MY doctor closes shop, I’ll by his business. Oh, I’m an electrician, but I can hook you up. Oops, seems we have a shortage of doctors now, oh well.

    • http://[email protected] egoroff

      @TexasRepublican so, “some other person will take over the doctor’s business, huh ? Presumably without having to go thru medical school, interneship, residency, etc… huh. Maybe you will be able to survive his treatment — but I doubt it.

    • jrtabone48

      . Hey Texrepublican,  The president and the senate do not hand out freedoms, what planet did you come from?  Don’t you know your Constitution?  Obviously not.  Our freedoms and our inalieable rights spring from God All Mighty!  You say” the republicans want the government to oppress you and stop your freedoms.”  I swear, this sounds like the reasoning of a 12 year old.  Obviously, you are a product of our wonderful public school system, and astonishingly an adult!  If you hadn’t notice Tex, but your commiecrat party is doing all of the above right now under your nose.  Somehow you don’t seem to understand that Obongo – your president, is BIg Government and will continue to expand it until it is part of your life.  My uninformed reader you got this whole thing so backass backwards!
      I suggest you read-up, get educated, and look around my friend,  you are plainly misguided.

    • agrneydgrl

      In England, they have ambulance stacking. There were such long waits in the emergency rooms, they passed a law that they had to get people seen in 4 hours.  So, they pull in the parking lot and park until they are told that there is only a 4 hour wait.  Buy that time, there are a lot of people calling for ambulances but they are all full and are in the parking lots of the hospitals.  The liberals are the  ones that if they don’t like what you say, its hate speech, if they don’t like what   you are doing, they don’t want anyone doing it.  I lived on the Canadian border, and those that could afford it, came to the US for treatment.  Taking control of your healthcare is giving you freedom?  They both want big government..  If you would take the time and investigate, instead of using liberal talking points, you would know that there is a DR shortage in this country. But never fear, with our new healthcare bill, you might be lucky enough to get one of those drs that they have had to lower the medical school standards so that they can qualify.  Look it up.  And just the word “socialized”  says it all.  We are not suppose to be a socialized country.,  That is what made this country so great.

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @TexasRepublican . . . . . . go have this conversation witih your health care provides. Some of my friends are medical doctores and dentists. They do not agree with your statements . . . . you need to check your facts. In the last two years the House of Representatives have sent over 17 different pieces of legislation only to have Harry Reid kill it. You see, our law making process starts in the House, goes to the Senate with any revisions and then back to the House for approval . . . .then to the president. my father used to tell me me that if you repeat the lie long enough that soon you will believe it yourself . . . . I think that is the democratic creed . . . . and for the record, I am an Independent . . . .

  • Distinguished and wise

    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
     
    Ronald Reagan
     
    Now with Obama all is lost…now all we can do is tell our children and grandchildren what it was like to be free

  • Distinguished and wise

    We should measure welfare’s success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added
     
    . Ronald Reagan

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @Distinguished and wise
      AMEN!!!!!!

  • Straightline

    Nothing has changed at all. 4 more years of gridlock, lies, debt, demonization and lack of leadership. Except you can now marry your dog and you don’t need ID to do it.

  • Distinguished and wise

    If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.
     
    Ronald Reagan

  • SharonJonesJeanguenat

    America may have lost last night, but, GOD didn’t lose, & He IS still in control. He will take care of those who sincerely serve Him. Americans have thumbed their noses at Him too many times, & now His judgment will fall on us. He is not going to just overlook the fact that 50 million unborn babies have been murdered, nor will He overlook the homosexual agenda. So my advice is, get as close to Jesus as you can, & stay ready for ANYTHING. If they thought Sandy was bad, they ain’t seen NOTHIN’ yet! God is STILL the winner!

    • JohnHart

      @SharonJonesJeanguenat True from a spiritual perspective and unfortunately for those responsible for the Abortion Holocaust, from the Quantum one to. Materialism and mindless evolution didn’t cause them and they won’t cease to exist after they die but trapped in an endless loop re-experiencing the murders they caused as Karma dismembers their souls.  Not a pleasant ending to be sure, skin burned off by caustic, arms and legs torn off or scissors rammed into the back of heads to make a hole for the suction curet.

  • Kissitgoodbye

    When you allow government the power over YOUR life and death via healthcare, you have handed over your freedom. You had better tow the line. Better stock up on body bags and toe tags. It’s always cheaper to let you die than to treat you. Government does not act quickly in emergencies. Medicine will look like 9/11.

  • JohnEmery

    If the people who voted for this hitler take over, you will not recognize this country in less than 50 years.  We will be another 3rd world africa.

  • Dr Joe

    America voted for Santa Claus.  And just like Santa Claus he is not real.  He doesn’t supply the gifts mom & dad do.  It was either Santa Claus or a God given work ethic (which made America).  A free ride or personal attainment.  Fifty percent were on each side.  We are truly a divided nation with those on the Santa Claus side in control.

    • Walt

      @Dr Joe
       Lets see – Santa Claus has the welfare, unemployed, uneducated and gift receivers.  The other side has education, jobs, money and guns.  Wonder who will win when it gets ugly.

    • Evermyrtle

      @Dr Joe Talking about Santa Claus, Christmas will be done away with just as soon as Obam can force it.

  • guest

    Job hunting with Obama in 2nd term going to concentrate on government job should be plenty coming soon.

  • pumpman

    49% dis-enfranchised with irreconcilable differences. I suggest the Red states suceed from the union, Cali,oregon and Hawaii one country, maybe name it West Taxistan,the rust belt, atlantic and NE states a second country, maybe name it East Taxistan and us RED southern, midwest and SW states a third country

  • ByronNelson

    Outstanding article. I just hope we can get back to abundance on a short cut. Maybe people will learn so they don’t have to endure the pain. Or maybe I’m hoping for too much. Here’s a good article on why people voted for Obama: http://www.nocommunism.com/2012/11/what-did-they-vote-for/

  • Doc

    At first, I was angry, then very depressed, I am angry, again. I am not going to let these simpletons who voted Ø back in get me down. I am going to do everything humanly possible to thwart the democrats efforts to finish off MY country.
     
    Since when do we Americans roll over a let the despots have their way?
     
    I am also not going to stop hiring. People who are willing to put in a days work for a days pay are not the takers that helped re-elect Ø .
     
    My best revenge against the darkness the democrat party has become is to live in light and prosper, despite them.

  • malcolmx

    just read an acrimonious approach to end liberalism forever;;;;;;;give obama everything he wants; Republicans get out of his way;; he will have no one to blame and the nation will see the utter failure of socialized liberalism. obama will fall on his own sword and take the dumocraps with him….

    • grumpyoldconservative

      @malcolmx You know, at first your idea sounded foolish, but ultimately, that may be just the thing that would crush these stupid ideas of his. No one but Obama and the rest of the fools to blame. Maybe the Republicans in the House and the Senate could vote “present”, just like Obama did. That way we would know that they were there, but had no hand in collapsing the economy. It’s either that or NEVER allowing the debt ceiling to raise; $2.5 Trillion per year is enough and you, Mr. President, get no more.

  • HenryFlynn

    Within a very short time, what used to be the American culture will be transformed into the old Soviet Union type culture. If you are not willing to become a union member, you will be unemployed. If you say anything against the government and the wrong person hears you, you will disappear to a political prison and no one will be told where you are (Siberia is a good example). Your children will be removed from your home and put in a school of the government’s choice and parents will have no control. There is a longer list of culture transformations that just might come, since Obama is, now, our unofficial dictator. He has been acting like one for 4 years and he was just told that what he has been doing to America is fine by the voters. I, strongly, suspect massive voter fraud, but who has the guts to talk about such a thing. That is not the PC thing to talk about when it comes to Obama. He has a mandate, now, to do anything he wants because no one will/can stop him and he knows it. Most judges even protect him!! Holder has always protected him and he protects Holder. What a team! Corruption at it’s best and not one can do anything about it! Even is we wanted to impeach Obama, try to find a judge that would charge him!

  • Admiral America

    Plutocratic elites have been re-engineering society for almost a century now with their master plan of a New World Order one world government to enslave humanity.  They utilize their private central banks, and corporations to influence government, the media, and the entertainment industry.  They have reshaped nearly half the populace into pathetic individuals who would make our Founding Fathers roll over in their grave.  That coupled with voter fraud in key counties produced a win for Obama.  Each new generation is brainwashed into this horrific pop culture of corruption, and moral debauchery.  The very things that have led to the downfall of many great empires along with insane spending, and taxes.  The end is unfortunately near, and there’s probably not much anyone can really do about it.  The corrupted along with us will have to hit rock bottom to learn a lesson, and then hope it’s possible to rebuild again.

  • bobseeks

    There is no hope of a return of the greatness we once knew until we return to the GOD we once worshipped.

  • barkmulchman

    Scrap the Gop for the TEA PARTY!

    • Evermyrtle

      @barkmulchman 
      Sounds like a winner to me.. The Republican Party picked Romney I believe that Rand Paul would have had a better chance or his dad either one.

      • Man Mountain Mike

        @Evermyrtle @barkmulchman you were making sense un til . . . . . . . .

        • Evermyrtle

          @Man Mountain Mike  @Evermyrtle  @barkmulchman  I will likle get some ridicule about this one but I don’t always make sense, a little quirk that I am working with.

  • Flalynn

    I feel like the fat lady came into the building, kicked my butt, left the building and is now singing.  Jesus, you surely must be on your way.  Amen.

  • DennyB

    Where do we go from here? Higher un-employment in 2013, more people loosing homes. inflation coupled with otlandish fuel prices. Food, Medications, Clothing, all shipped by trucks, the fuel goes up, so do he rices. More small business’s going broke, and highertaxes. As he Obama care is implimented, ourb health care goes up, our quality of health care will drop. Older people, handicapped, younger people with serious diseases, pain medication only.
     
    Then bankruptcy of Cities, counties, and States. Some are really close now. When the States, Cities, and counties go bakrupt, he pensions that are not covered by the federal goverment stop also. City , county, State, teachers, there goes your pension. And when the Federal Government defaults, there goes Social Security, what is left of Medicare.
     
    yes, th voters morethan liklyid all of us a favor. When we start all over, maybe we can actually find some honest Americans to become politicians, not the jerks now in office. Obama will problay flee to a Arab country then. His work here done. Maybe we will have to learn Russian, or Chinese. Who knows. But we are so close to being toast it is pathetic.

  • deeprock7

    Pretty much guarantees total societal collapse…when everything goes to hell in a handbasket, on that day that nobody accepts our inflated money anymore, interest rates skyrocket and Weimar Republic inflation takes hold.  The democrats have created a permanent ward of the state coalition to be paid for by the producers, but you can never give people enough free stuff to keep them happy.  We are so screwed.

    • DennyB

      @deeprock7I certainly agree wit you

  • David Veselenak

    Flalynn, we had better hope that Jesus is on the way because we have the Devil in the “Outhouse.” The stupid sheeple that voted for this treacherous snake will find that out this term, which will be a lifetime one unless there is the needed Revolution that the sheeple haven’t the discipline or will power to save their own ^sses – that is the reality of the situation!

    • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

      @David Veselenak
       Amen to that

  • A true American

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  • WeThePeople1

    I believe God himself took America into independence, we kick God out and Sinned Greatly against God, Now we reap the punishment from God.  It’s now or never for American to rise-up and take our Nation back from the Evil that has enveloped our Geat Nation and re dedicate this Land to the one REAL GOD!  The War is is about to begin (Civil War II).  God help us all!  I can’t believe it would ever come to this, this is a nightmare!

    • DanielWatland

      @WeThePeople1
       Do you really think an election has a greater power than God? What kind of Bible are you getting these ideas from? I use a King James with a Strongs Concordance and have never came close to a conclusion like yours. I reccommend you take your human reasoning and put it on the back shelfe and leave the front for God.

    • Evermyrtle

      @WeThePeople1 A cival might get us back on track costing us million of dollars that I have no idea where it would come from, an d millions of lives o f our young people. I believe tht GOD wil do all by HIMSELF.

  • JEANSMUSZ70

    How could we have hoped for a better decision on Nov.6th? Some have decided not to value life, to compromise marriage and family, do not believe or practice a religion, do not have what it takes to make a living and have lost their souls in the process. We have been so complacent in the past several elections and now we have just become old and weary. This younger generation voted in mass for someone they view as exciting and forward moving (moving them closer to the edge) and in the process, over the edge. They are in danger of losing their freedoms. They do not know what it has taken, so that they could have these freedoms. And, the oppressed only want things to get better and will believe whatever someone as persuasive as Obama has told them, particularily if they do not have to do anything in order to get more for nothing in return. Little do they know but they are selling their souls. All this to say, what could one expect? Well, we get what we ask for when we loose heart and become complacent. Now, how can we turn this around and fight for what we know is right? Do you think that it is too late? How do we deal with evil?

  • LibertySpeaks

    The Day America Died We ask if we had lost our pride We ask if we wanted to go hide We ask if we wanted to give up hope We ask if old glory would still float We ask if this still was home to the brave, We ask if our old flag would still wave We ask if our country passed the buck, We ask if our country had run amuck We ask if our freedom would remain, We ask if our free liberty would retain We ask if the wrongs could now be set We ask if we were doomed as of yet We ask if believers would knell to pray We ask God to have His perfect way We ask if our sovereignty would be fair We ask if God was somewhere out there We ask if all Americans would come unite We ask if all Americans would join the fight The Day America Died. “R.I.P”, America, July 4, 1776- ____________. You fill in the date. I trust and pray, this brief make-believe epilog, sets all “Red Blooded Americans” to think. Yes, our grand old country is still worth saving. And, “In God” we still trust. So, don’t give up.( John 8:32) GOD BLESS AMERICA, LAND THAT WE LOVE

  • Emelyn Hasselfeld

    There are obviously many reasons this happened and plenty of blame to pass around.  Still, I think we need to hold the mainstream networks accountable for their role in manipulating this election, instead of acting as the watchdogs of our republic.  I only know of one way . . . to vote with our feet and our pocketbooks.  Until we start to see reliable news reporting, I suggest that we don’t watch ANY mainstream network TV, or anything on CNN or MSNBC.  (I know we love our shows, but we need to show our love for our country more and hit the media back where they live.)  Can you imagine the response if they lost 5-10-15-20% of their viewership?  Can we make this happen – and perhaps at least finally get decent coverage of House hearings on Benghazi, Fast & Furious, and security leaks that are sure to follow?  What do you think?  Ideas?

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @Emelyn Hasselfeld
      I agree with you . . . . I had this same thought this morning and I for one will not turn their channel on . . . . I do not know why anyone who is conservative would want to support them in any way.

      • Emelyn Hasselfeld

        Thanks for the feedback Mike.  And, I am not just talking about network news, probably most of us already watch Fox instead of MSNBC.  I am talking about primetime entertainment . . . where they make their money . . . NCIS, football, Dancing with the Stars, etc.  (None of these shows are special targets, I like some of them  – but the networks should be targets.)

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @Emelyn Hasselfeld I probably did not make myself very clear . . . . but I am on that page . . . . . lots of good books out there as well . . . . there are also some movies and concerts I will not patronize because for the same reason . . . . .

  • LibertySpeaks

    “The bricks have fallen down, But we will rebuild with smooth stones; The sycamores have been cut down, But we will replace them with cedars.” ( Isaiah 9:10) Have you ever felt as if you were taking one step forward and two steps back, in this old world. Well, I’ve been there and done that. However, our loving Heavenly Father is still in command. And, may we never forget. “When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; And through the rivers, they will not overflow you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be scorched, Nor will the flame burn you.”(Isaiah 43:2) As our beloved President Ragan would have said, “here we go again”. What started out as a “feel good” penalty for not obtaining personal health insurance, is now a tax. And, according to some think-tank pollsters, probably the biggest tax in the history of the world. Where and when will all this madness stop? This recent unworkable law appeal, submitted to The United States Supreme court, has compelled the court to render an interpolation on just such a law. And the governments spin, justifying such a ruling, has added to the Malay. I know governmental “spin” can at times be a very powerful tool. So, how are our Congressman and Senators going to spin this one ? How will these career professional congressional members handle this ? And, now that the Supreme Court’s ruling, of this unjust law is in place, what may be done about it. Our government told us, on many occasion, that the required fee for not having health insurance would never be considered a tax. However, what our government failed to tell us, and in which it took our High Court to do so, was that a fee or penalty by any other name, is simply a tax. Was our government wrong, in the labeling of this required revenue ? Or, were they just covering for what they knew would be upheld in the Supreme Court, as a tax ? The solution is simply four words, “Get out and vote”. As “Red Blooded American Citizens”, we must stop this uncontrolled madness in our government. We must not only plan to get out and vote, come November. But we must also campaign heavy, whenever we can, to bring back the freedom of our beloved “Construction”. The bricks, of our world, may fall around us, but God promises they will be replaced with smooth stones, coated with Heavens blessings. In other words, the stumbling blocks of life are simply just stepping stones, in God’s world. Yes, our freedom is in the Lord, and may we never forget that, as well. So. what is freedom? Freedom by any other synonym simply means liberty and independence. It is an absence of undue restrictions and an opportunity to exercise our individual rights, powers. and desires. In freedoms basket we find a hodge-podge of topics such as; “freedom of religion” “freedom of speech” “freedom of conscience” “freedom of movement” “freedom of thought” “freedom of invention” “freedom of discovery” Freedom not only implies a lack of restriction but also gives us the ability to stand alone. And, simply put: freedom is being able to do what you want to do. Regardless of some beliefs, our nation is still the “land of the free” and the “, home of the brave”. And, in God we still trust.

    • DanielWatland

      @LibertySpeaks
       You don’t know the God I know and you are completely out of context. God has as president the person He wants as president. Obama is president because of his compassion being in order. Set FOX news off to the side and realize what they have done to so many of you. Do your own interpretations and you will fare a lot better. Another civil war we do not need. Keep it in the politicak arena.

  • A true American

    I think since Americans are divided. the USA should divide into two country’s . All red states
    Would be free America , and all blue states could be the dependent America , then you choose, we can elect our own president in free America , if you think about it, it could work
    There are enough resources, To split America
    But people you need to prepare , there will be another civil war , I am not saying this
    Lightly or to sound crazy, this is reality
    And yes you watch the congress cave. But if we can survive the next few years, just get
    Through, we know this so called king can’t run again, and you know now since he is in office
    This sets up Hillary for 2016.
    As far as I am concerned, We have no president , I have no president and I will make sure
    My child learns what happened to America
    Mark my word we are close, we will start seeing things , strange things happening
    My faith in GOD is surly being tested

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @A true American
      Stay close to God . . . . . . . the righteous need not fear, right? After the storm comes the rainbow and clear skies, calm winds . . . .

      • DanielWatland

        @Man Mountain Mike  @A
         The Bible says, God has the person as president He wants; so I agree with you, A healthy nation is a productive nation. Health care doubles every 10 years on average. Since no person in this country could keep the private sector in check, we are forced into government control. The highest paid XO in history is from what business? Health care and why do you think that is? Justice???

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @DanielWatland @A I respectfully disagree . . . . . you are suggesting that we give up yet another freedom . . . . I will not try to change your mind, but will ask that you contact me in 4-6 years and tell me what you see. . . . . . . do ou know how to catch wild pigs?

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @A true American P.S. . . . I think the first state that successfully suceeds from the union is where I want to be . . . .

      • RockyVnvmc

        @Man Mountain Mike  @A
         Me Too ! Sure hope that it’s SC, again, because that’s where I’m gonna make My Stand !

        • DanielWatland

          @RockyVnvmc  @Man Mountain Mike  @A
           You guys must be kids. Do your parents know what your doing?

        • RockyVnvmc

          @DanielWatland  @Man Mountain Mike  @A
           Wrong… Grandparents… We still remember what Freedom Felt Like !

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @RockyVnvmc  @Man Mountain Mike  @A  What are they doing that they would not want their parents to know. about?

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @RockyVnvmc @DanielWatland @A right on brother . . . . please reserve me a small lot . . .

      • Walt

        @Man Mountain Mike  @A
         Texas has been considering it.  They can afford it. They would have no national debt.  They already have no state income taxes. They have agriculture, land, cattle, natural gas and other natural resources, a border and deepwater ports for shipping.  It is also interesting to note that the Ability to Seceed is in the Texas Constitution that was agreed upon by the Federal Government when Texas became a state.  They kept that right.

        • DanielWatland

          @Man Mountain Mike  @A
           Your part right; the rest of the Constitution gives each state the right to declare war on another. If you guys really want to tear this country apart by not honoring our flag, then go ahead. Before you do that, you might want to think about some of the other groups in our country that have done that very thing. My belief is Fox news should be charged with treason and sedition.

        • gb

          @DanielWatland  @Man Mountain Mike  @A dude, what does fox news have to do with this conversation? people are worried about their country and where we will be in 4 years or less. Boehner is already caving. there will be tax increases which results in fewer jobs, which steamrolls to a depression so stay on topic.

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @Walt @A Never been to Texas but I am willing to relocate . . . .

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @DanielWatland @A Fox news of all of the news organizations Fox is the closest one to having it right. You have everyone of the mainstream media who have become cheerleaders and not the watchdogs they were intended to be . . . you might want to try replying to the huffington post . . . .

      • DanielWatland

        @Man Mountain Mike  @A
         Go ahead and if you notice the map with the Blue states, you may consider choosing gray rather than red then.

      • DefendConstitution

        @Man Mountain Mike  @A
        Texas has been talking about it for quite a while. I have never been to Texas but what I have seen and read it doesn’t look like a very nice place. Regardless, we are seriously considering moving to Texas. They appreciate the freedom they have and are willing to fight to maintain it and they believe in the Second Amendment.

    • DanielWatland

      Most people learn from mistakes and you should realise a civil war is not needed. With your attitude, this nation would still be killing each other. So if Republicans are able to win again, they need more votes.  I would rather you explain to your kids the way our checks and balances work and leave hatefulness for other countries to deal with. Don’t bring it here.

      • Man Mountain Mike

        @DanielWatland
        Daniel, I would never advocate another civil war or even a revolutionary war. Can you impagine the courage and fortitude that our forefathers must have had to take up arms against Great Britain? In reality it was also a civil war since so many of our nation came from Europe at that time. No hate, just not wanting to live under oppression . . . . and if a state can and does leagally succeed, I am relocating if they take immigrants . . . . lol . .

  • slicker

    With the way my country has gone the last 4 years, and with the way my country will continue to fall in the next 4 years, I am almost sorry to say that I am a NAVY VET, and fought to preserve the freedoms we once had, and the ones we are going to lose in the future!!!!!!!

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @slicker Amen slicker, but I salute you in spite of it all . . . . God Bless. . . . .

    • DanielWatland

      @slickerDon’t be sorry, because I’m a Vet as well and was in Germany when the cease troop withdrawl was announced in Viet Nam. I don’t understand your post, by saying were loosing our rights in the future. How do you know this?

      • Man Mountain Mike

        @DanielWatland @slicker I salute you for serving as well . . . .
        Wee are losing our rights one insignificant step at a time . . . .
        1) Forced Health Care
        2) Over the top screening at airports
        3) Illegals not being held accountable for breaking our laws, taxing our
        system . . . .
        4) Forcing a CEO to step down and take over one of our automotive
        industry in the private sector . . .
        5) Forcing a business and individuals to have insurance and then when
        they do provide that insurance, the Federal Government will dictate to
        you what your provider will and will not cover.
        6) Telling your healthcare professionals what they can and cannot charge
        for their services . . . . . .
        I could go on and on (already kinf of did), but I hope this makes the point . .

    • Evermyrtle

      @slicker If he does as much damage in the next four years as he did in the last four I cannot begin ti imagine where we will be at the end of his term. I believe that GOD’S people will not have to worry about I believe JESUS will come back before that time.

  • Walt

    You need to understand where jobs come from.    Gov’t doesn’t create jobs, cities don’t create jobs, and poor people do not create jobs.  It is the wealthy, through their corporations who create jobs.  More tax breaks, more industry, more jobs.  Increase their taxes and they will do just what they always do.  Downsize, let people go, not create any more jobs and live as usual off the money they save by letting a lot of people go.  This is the way it works.  You back industry, i.e. the wealthy, jobs increase; you back the administration, jobs decrease.  The wealthy are not really affected.  Jobs create demand.  No job, no demand.  To stimulate the economy you must first have jobs, then you can create more demand and thus create more jobs.  The wealthy will not be taxed more and more and still invest in jobs for you.  That is a proven fact.  Give them conditional tax breaks and they will increase industry and therefore more jobs.  That is how it works.

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @Walt
      I agree with you Walt . . . . there should be incentives so they do not go to other countries.
      Think about this . . . . the wealthy will continue to make a lot of money regardless of the economy or who is president . . . . they have the money to pull it off. They will pay more taxes and more fees in many instances because ultimately they do not really pay for it . . . . the raise the prices of their goods or products and then when the “Middle Class” make their mandatory as well as their necessary purchases, they are paying for it. I call it the indirect tax on the middle class . . . . it is difficult for me to see why so many of the people of this country cannot see that . . . . . .

      • garybsmith

        @Man Mountain Mike  @Walt
         Interesting take, in that the business owners are all omnipotent and can enforce their will on the economy.  Did you know that gasoline, in adjusted price, was cheapest when Standard Oil had its supposed monopoly?  Why, because it was priced to make Rockfeller rich while at the same time keeping pikers out of the industry.  Once Teddy Roosevelt started his trust busting, the multplicity of providers made prices go up as many companies had to be supported.  Still, in today’s market with its unAmerican participants, I’m not for monopolies as they transcend individual wealth and go into political influence.  Inefficency is better than fascism.  But to your point, in these days of government enforced stupidity, the new costs are from excise tax and government paperwork and regulation.  I know there are many industries of interest to Americans (like food) but did you know that if taxes were taken off, exploration NO LONGER SUBSIDIZED, but not restricted and capitalist economies in play today, then a gallon of gas would be about $1.80 and not $4.00?  Something to consider.

        • DefendConstitution

          @garybsmith  @Man Mountain Mike  @Walt
           I’m not so sure garybsmith. Yes, our crude can be refined reght here in America but if a business has a choice of selling their product for $1.80 or for $4.00, which one do you think they would charge. Their choice would be sell it to America for $1.80 or ship it oversea and sell it for $4.00. How do you fight that?

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @garybsmith @Walt I like your thoughts Gary and I agree . . . with the gasoline and the evil oil companies with their extravagant profits . . . . the Federal Government makes more from oil than anyone else and they do not explore for it, they do not drill for it, they do not transport it to the refineries or to the end Buyer . . . . well, maybe Mr O will take more from the oil companies and give to the illegal’s sp they can get busy taking American jobs (yes I am a little bitter today) . . . can someone please call Kenya and let them know we have found their village idiot . . .

    • DanielWatland

      Survival. You take a seed and put it in the ground, you put a fish on top of it and wait for it to grow on the most fertile soil in the world. It has nothing to do with the rich. It is all God given.

  • A true American

    Obama Killed the four Americans , there blood is on his hands, people just act like
    So what four America s dead, it’s like there ammuned, demacrat,s are evil people, and don’t think otherwise

    • Man Mountain Mike

      @A true American
      Rumor has it that there are at least three others who have died at his hands on our own soil here in the states . . .

      • Evermyrtle

        @Man Mountain Mike  @A There were four of them and the USA could have rescued them because they knew about the situation and did nothing. Obama was notified therefore he committed murder and it made no difference, he was elected.

        • Man Mountain Mike

          @Evermyrtle @A I was talking about 3 others here in the continental US of A . . . . .

        • Evermyrtle

          @Man Mountain Mike  @Evermyrtle  @A  OK I had not heard about them, thanks for the info!!

  • Elemental5

    Let the idiots who are living in the finest condo on a cliff that is on the verge of landslide enjoy their feeling of victory.  Sure, they are taking us down with them, but I will enjoy hearing them finally break and use the “I word” (Impeachment).  Americans are reaping the rewards of failing to teach American History. The American voters do not hold a candle to the Iraqi voters.
    Oh, and until a photo ID is required, and cameras with facial recognition are installed in all voting precincts, the cheating will continue.  I have made a strong case for using banks and branch banks as polling locations.  My full plan has been posted on left-and right-wing locations like the now defunct Table Talk.  Of course, you also get a receipt, like you do when you pay for a 5 cent item at a store.
     
    Banks have the software in their systems to handle security, and send all data to a central site.  They keep accounts accurate to the penny for decades. This so-called “sneaker net” method of moving data is over 30 years behind the times. All the banks need is the application program under CICS or IMS.

  • BC

    I’m 36 years old and this is a truly sad day.  I have been telling everyone I know is that the key is that the puiblic education system must be dismantled by Christians removing their children from these schools.   They are being taught Secular Humanist religion which ultimately results in Statism (worship of the State/Civil Government as god) and so the younger generation is being lost.  What good will your compromised church do when it has your kids for an hour on Sunday versus 5 hours a day 5 days a week.  We have been blind to this and the way the youngest generation voted  (19-29 year olds went for the Bigger Statist/Collectivist Big Government Fascist/Socialist candidate) is witness to the fact that these kids have been indoctrinated with this worldview.  Homeschool your kids or send them to a solid private Christian school, but we must get the kids out of the schools or they will continue to be indoctrinated with humanism and State worship which leads to an ever growing State and State dependence/enslavement.  Hitler understood this.  If you get the younger generation and fill them with your worldview and ideas, that’s the ball game!  Why do you think one of the biggest government statist president’s of all time is revered by many as one of the most important presidents of the 20th century (FDR).  Public schools even in higher education teach mass economic ignorance (Keynesianism) and thus the younger generation is easily fooled by nonsensical, illogical, math defyimng mis-economics that simply will not add up.  True wealth is produced through sacrifice, work, effort and saving to produce the products and services of tomorrow.  God help us!

    • Classic_Liberal

      The old guard of the Republican party continues to give it’s supporters terrible choices. I felt from the time Romney was anointed that he would lose. Honestly, if they can’t put up somebody to beat the worst President in American history how can the party expect or deserve to survive. Anybody who thought Romney was capable of drawing people to him from the middle was fooling themselves. The future of the party was in people like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson who promote true liberty. Now before you all throw me under the bus I will ask, have you ever been to Ron Paul rally and seen the young people flocking to a message of freedom? There are plenty of youngster (I’m 54) that see we are on a course for destruction. I ask, if you had had the choice of Ron Paul or Barack Obama who would have voted for? Ron Paul would have given the Republican party the victory they so desired but at the expense of the old guard. Paul and Johnson appeal to those who no longer buy into the two party establishment and those who desire a return to the country envisioned by our founders.

      • Don39

        Will you ever stop beating a dead horse? Really there is nothing left there.

  • Walt

    I too am a vet (20 years) and it breaks my heart to see what this country has come to.  The newer generation has allowed special interests, gays, athiests and muslims to destroy what was their hard won heritage. They have run God out of our schools, government, their lives and the lives of others.  They have negelected the teaching of their children and are only  concerned with “Political Correctness” to the extent that they cannot see anything else.  They have traded their heritage and their freedoms for a paycheck and a plastic house and claim they are content.  I wonder who if any will fight for America in the future, or will it simply be sold.

    • DefendConstitution

      Excellent post Walt. Thanks from one vet to another.

    • JohnHart

      I cry more because good intentions spawned it.  Christ’s message was simple and to the point, get the log out of your own eye before messing with others splinters, yet religion claiming to follow him had government use fear to deter sin. Charity, the moral obligation to help the less fortunate, is not fulfilled by having government jail people for “not paying their fair share.”  Government has a right to charge property for it’s protection and tax transactions but it has no right to a person’s labor, taxing that is slavery and government benefits don’t make it better, they make it worse.

  • RockyVnvmc

    ‘ looking to rising, conservative stars in the party, such as Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte, Mia Love, Mike Pence, Bobby Jindal'; Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal aren’t ‘Natural Born Citizens’ and can not ever run for the Office of the Presidency, Despite what some may call ‘a precedent’ established by Soetoro/Obama (or Whatever his Real Name is)

    • Evermyrtle

      @RockyVnvmc  Why not Obama did and won, TWICE  and I saw a birth certificate, at least a picture of one  stating that he was born in Kenya and it was available to canyon who wanted sot  the government officials knew about it and did nothing.  At least some mentioned here are good men not Muslim Islamists.

      • RockyVnvmc

        @Evermyrtle
         Because it is Against the Law , That’s Why ! Just because Some People break the Law and get away with it, doesn’t mean that we All should ! Barry will get his, in God’s own sweet time…

        • Evermyrtle

          @RockyVnvmc  It was the law when Obama did it, too. What I would like to know why any of those that you named and not Obama. What is the difference. Oh I get it, I don’t think these any of these have black blood or do they??

      • DefendConstitution

        @Evermyrtle  @RockyVnvmc
         Forget about the birth certificate, it is a dead end. I believe we still have grounds for impeachment on the Natural Born language. His father was not a US citizen therefore bho is not legally eligible to be POTUS. Even though the facts are there, do you think we can find any members of Congress who will open the issue? Definitely not the herd presently there

        • Evermyrtle

          @DefendConstitution  @Evermyrtle  @RockyVnvmc  I f they act on it it will be a true miracle straight  from GOD. They have stacks of  proof on all kinds of treasonous acts and have done nothing. Of course I cannot see any reason that GOD might want ot send us any miracles.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @DefendConstitution  @Evermyrtle  @RockyVnvmc
           They will if WE pressure them enough.

    • Don39

      @RockyVnvmc These honorable men have no chance unless we create an atmosphere in which they can serve and succeed!

  • cae973

    I agree with true american as living in a red state I would like nothing better then to cut all ties to the idiots that reelected obama.  I considered this election to be the most important election in our countries history because the choice was between…honesty vs dishonesty, competence vs incompetence, morality vs immorality, christianity vs evil, hope vs despair….so I voted on the side of God for what is good and what is right….I voted for Romney but the devil won and placed his servant obama back in office to finish the job of destroying America….. this is the saddest day in the history of our country and the first election I shed tears over because I see now that my country with all its glory, and hope and dreams is gone…..

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @cae973 not gone forever. you are under estamiating the resolve of true Americans.

  • Gene Johnson

    Time to hunker down and get back to work.  Someone needs to pay for the 99%.  Let’s all stop whining.  I intend to start educating the youth in my community about conservative principles.  I intend to start classes January 2013.  I will be working on a children’s/young person’s version of a very popular book that will help them understand exactly how our banking system works so they can start “educating” their teachers by asking them the hard questions.  Have you taken a look at the books these kids learn from?  If 50% of the “facts” listed are really “facts”, I’d be surprised.  Education is the key.  An educator.

    • Bignz3

      @Gene Johnson
      As a recently retired educator of nearly 40 years, I’d be interested to find out the details of how you will implement your education plan. I taught high school science for 30 of those 37 years, and agree what’s in textbooks today means left and is heavily politically correct. If you have something solid, I would sincerely like to see if there’s a way for me to contribute.

    • Don39

      @Gene Johnson Resistance must take many forms, I applaud yours as part of the solution.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @Gene Johnson
       As a American citizen, parent and grandparent….Count me IN !

  • Evermyrtle

    It is a sad time in America, she has been betrayed by her own people when they bowed to the outside fake god of Islam. But I know when  a god leaves it won’t by my GOD. It will be the fake.This remind me of the Bible verse which says; Even so you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

  • JimSchafer

    the only reasonable resonse is prayer! so let us begin to Pray! ! ! Pray! ! !Pray! ! ! to Jehovah the only true God

    • Don39

      @JimSchafer The only reasonable response is for us to take up arms, and that includes Christian soliers who have a tolerance for non-Christians!

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @JimSchafer We must pray, but we cannot stop there. We must be willing to stand and fight!

  • OKC08GT500

    The moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites now outnumber the producers.  The coming economic collapse will bring with it chaos and violent civil unrest.  What will rise out of the ashes?  A return to the country that our Founders fought and died for or a dictatorship?

    • Mike3591

      @OKC08GT500 Whether or not there becomes a dictatorship depends on the American people. Are they will to let it happen or are they willing to fight another revolution to return to what our founding fathers gave us?

  • SAM

    ThE  DEMOCRATES  ARE   CROOKED  AND    REPUBLICANS  ARE   CROOKED  TOO. Communist  and  antiamericans  supporters  want  to  keep  this  way.  The  want   america   to  be a  cuba. Never   give  up  the  fight!
    http://www.commieblaster.com  updated  info.There  are  fake  liberals  conservatives  Like   maro,rubio,bobby jindal,  old  bush   gang.   People  do  not  want  the  Old   Bush   papa bush  and  baby  bush in  office  again..No  more  bush  or   copy  cats  either. Look  at   bush  crime  family  history.Bush   has  done   little to  fix  America  for  better. Bush   patriot act, Americans  forever  tax citizenship  and  using  American dollars,Bad  Imbra  marriage  law,  and wanting  amnesty  for  illegal aliens, Bush  can  not   tell a  cuba  from a  mexican  invents a  word   to  group  them Hispanic  and  us it alot.   If   bush  used  the n  word   toward   blacks  ,bush  will  never  hear the  end  of that.

  • JohnHart

    The mark of the BEAST.
    The criminalization of sin by the right powers the left wing and the degeneracy of the left, powers the right wing.
    FREEDOM is the answer both parties have thrown away.

    • Mike Travis

      @JohnHart What we need is to throw BOTH parties away and imprison every single one of them.

      • Don39

        @Mike Travis  @JohnHart That is stupid!

  • JimSchafer

    this may be the beginning of the long-needed revival that we as the great nation that we once were and can and will return to if we truly pray and seek His face. i have seen the need for spiritual awakening for some time and now we can and will begin to see the results of this and other prayers. so may I strongly urge and sincerely ask those who are His children for a spiritual revival.

    • Cooki

      Amen Jimschafer.  I too believe a revival like never before is going to happen.!
       
      http://politichicks.tv/author/barbaracook/

    • Don39

      @JimSchafer You are a minority talking to a minority. Spiritual awakenings save individuals not nations with diverse beliefs. The only thing we as a nation had in common was our charter for government, the US Constitution, the foundation for the Republic. That has in essence been inoperative for several years getting nothing more than lip service from the most conscientious of federal politician if that! If this nation has a revival it will not and can not be a religious one, since we have no common religion to bind us.

      • Cooki

        All it takes is one and God.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Don39  We may have many different religious demoniations, but the one common factor that should bind us is “One Nation Under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All.”

  • adamenochnoah

    “The Republican Party does not need to fundamentally restructure; it needs to better articulate its message; looking to rising, conservative stars in the party, such as Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte, Mia Love, Mike Pence, Bobby Jindal and others to create a new conservative movement.”
     
    LOL! The 10 old boat anchors running the RNC would rather lose every election than give up their power to the young compromisers.

    • JohnHart

      @adamenochnoah YES IT DOES!  Republicans need to reach out to the poor classes and give them the hand up the deserve, not like hand outs of the left designed to enslave them but assistance just the same.  The Right needs to take responsibility for the devastation it has wrought on the poor. Corporate greed is just as detrimental to a society as government greed. Good government is necessary for freedom. The Right jailing pot smokers and drug addicts didn’t stop the drug problem, it caused it while undermining the very principles the Right claims to hold.

      • adamenochnoah

        @JohnHart I think we are in complete agreement. The first part of my comment in quotation marks was taken from the body of the article written by the author of the article, not me.

    • Don39

      @adamenochnoah At the minimum the establishment must be purged and the party given a new face, name and sincerity!

  • mpowers46

    it’s revolution time! the election was rigged.

    • JohnHart

      @mpowers46 The rigging was done by the same marketing gimmicks making people buy certain brands of toothpaste.  The truth is taxing wages is economic slavery more insidious than shackles and chains. The SS trust fund wasn’t created to be a safety net like the left believes, it was to rob the poor of their savings and make them dependent on banks for credit.

  • JohnHart

    Poverty is caused by policies of the Right and exploited by charlatans of the Left. The poor are forced to work to support the wealthy and their path to wealth is restricted by trickle down taxes, high interest and government benefits being substituted for the spiritual help they need. Forces introduced into our economic system by ignorant politicians responding to series of staged crisis events have turned America into a gigantic corporate plantation rapidly evolving into a socialist state.

  • SFCFUBARDILLIGAF

    More like a Cival War than a revolution.  The States should have much more authority over itself than it does currently.  The Federal government has grown to the point that the only part that still works is the Military.  Thank GOD!

    • Don39

      @SFCFUBARDILLIGAF  The military or at least enough of it is suspect. Sorry I was a career soldier and I know it hurts as the truth often does. The states could put a stop to this by recalling their militia and asserting their rights under the Constitution. If nothing else it would prove the tiranny of the federal government and bind together the several states so doing! That would be the foundation of the revolutionary army we need. A simple blockade might suffice since most of the states we would oppose are broke or bankrupt already anyway!

  • Mike Travis

    I respectfully disagree with you re the gop. They have proven themselves to be worse then inept.  They have totally failed in their primary responsibility as representatives which is to defend the Constitution.  They first failed by refusing to challenge Obama’s eligibility even though they knew he was not a natural born citizen.  Then when Obama presented a forged document, they still ignored it.  Furthermore, they have displayed cowardice when what was needed was courage.  Finally, they have watched as Obama caused the deaths of federal border agents, an ambassador, and two SEALS, which makes them complicit in Obama’s crimes including murder and treason.
     
    No, the gop needs to be disbanded and sent to the trash heap where it belongs.  Americans deserve better and they will NEVER get it from the gop.

    • Don39

      @Mike Travis They have been the best alternative and only viable alternative. If you do not get the chip off of your shoulder you will be worthless to the salvation of this nation!

  • Dave Trucker

    When it begins and it seems to be a sure thing now, will we be called patriots or cooks when we die with our guns in our hands trying to preserve the colors of our flag and our constitution as written for us by our wise founders? The current administration will be 4 more years as the past. God Help Us preserve The United States of America for our children and grandchildren !!!!!!!!!

    • Don39

      @Dave Trucker We will be called worse than crooks by those we oppose, they already call us domestic terrorist. If we win we will be called heroes by those we save.

  • Emmess

    If you don’t know where to go from here, you don’t belong in politics. It’s said that a nation gets the government it deserves. Most Americans don’t deserve the rot of an Obama administration but enough of you do to hang that statement on you. You’ve succeeded in reducing the Constitution to a historical paper. While the rest of the English speaking world evolved their monarchies into defacto republics, America has evolved the republic into a monarchy with a political upper class as privileged as any in England. Nothing the administration says (and this goes back to WWII) can be trusted to be in the interest of the American people. The way seems clear to me. You have two years in which to run an information campaign undoing the lies told about the Republican Party, its history and its principles that have been spread by the Democrats for decades. You have the resources and the talent. Just think what Hollywood does when it wants to lionize a “hero”. Remember Davey Crockett. Disney took him from unknown to household name in one weekend and there are dozens of other examples. There is enough slime around that can stick to the Democrats. It just takes a bit of effort.

  • SFCFUBARDILLIGAF

    I took an oath a long time ago (1st time) that I would defend the Constitution of the United States of America against ALL enemies, foreign & domestic.  I do not recall an expiration date!

    • Don39

      @SFCFUBARDILLIGAF And the time will come soon that we will be tested as to the sincerity of that oath which has no time fuse! I am much older but my promise is gold and my duty to my nation, my fellow man, and my children, their children, etc. is sacred. In a sense many of us have been fighting for a few years again. They are destroying my nation, they can not hurt me more! Without the restraints of facing reelection, I give the unconstrained evil fraud less than two years to start a revolution. Constitutionality is not an issue, since he has ignored the Constitution for four years. Congress is not an impediment since they also have ignored the Constitution for several years, the supposed republican and conservative House even passing laws this past year that vioplate the rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the entire Senate having gone along with violation of the Constitution by allowing a fraud and Constitutionally unqualified leftist shill to assume the office of president.

  • Sam Ponticello

    Love God and serve your fellowman . . .keep the faith!

    • Cooki

      Amen brother!

  • Kissitgoodbye

    He is simply carrying out the mission he was funded by George Soros to accomplish. Destroy the existing economic system and install a socialistic government. He and Hillary both love Soros and Saul Alinsky.

  • Bignz3

    The left has taken over the three ingredients that insures their solidarity: they control the msm, they have control of the entertainment industry, and most importantly, they permeate the education system. If you can control/influence those, you control the culture. It’s up to concerned parents and individuals to educate the youth in order to stem the tide. Also, as much as it pains me to say it, RvW is not going away, and as long as the GOP hammers that issue, it will forever be mired in controversy. Probably too much of a compromise by the ultra-right to agree to, but it is an Achilles heel of the party.

  • http://www.survivingurbancrisis.com/ SilasLongshot

    It’s done, folks, the USA has passed the point of no return, the 47% will be the 51% by the time 0bama is done with us. There is no going back. The ‘gimmie’ party will ultimately destroy the nation. We will see Detroit from coast to coast.
    A couple of fitting quotes:
    From Star Wars: “So this is how liberty dies…with thunderous applause.”
    Lord Thomas Macaulay.   “A democracy is always temporary in nature: it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority will always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
    Prepare while you can.

    • Mike Travis

      @SilasLongshot Roger that Brother.

    • kat15

      @SilasLongshot A democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

  • cubbysmom

    I feel this election was a joke .   you are right, with everything bad that happened and was created under obama, people really should have thought it out before re-electing him.  socialism is not a joke folks.  obama is a narcist if there ever was one,  he only cares about what is in it for him.  he had the black panthers at some polling places to heckle the republican voters,  he sent the military the ballots too late for them to return them ( purposely done).   yes the republicans should have challenged obama legitimacy at being president of our not so great nation now.    I heard that obama’s win was Gods revenge on the united states.  after all we took him out of schools, churches,  the pledge of allegiance is next,  what a shame and slap in the face to our lord and saviour.  we need to resist obamas religion and his forcing us to bow to allah.  I am sorry, but I am christian and yes president obama we are a christian nation, founded on the principal of our forefathers, not yours, and the constitution is our bible  per say.    the storms that we are having are signs of the times.  but no one is listening to God.  wake up america,  religiously we are nearing the of civilization as we know it.   but it can be changed around by allowing God back in our lives and that of our children.  prayer and I mean everyones prayers are needed now.    think about it.  obama does not care what you or I think, he just wanted in again.  he will just proceed to do nothing about our energy, money crises,  global warming.  all he will accompish is highering our taxes, changing our great healthcare system for a socialistic one,  God help us on that one,  as long as he gets money from this that is all he cares about. remember money is the root of all evil, and the devil lurks in the white house.

    • DavidLeoHeatherly

      @cubbysmom One Black guy in front of a predominately black polling place intimidates people? Do BLACK people intimidate you? If so you might be a racist
      Also we ARE NOT a Christian Nation as stated in the Treaty of Tripoli:
      The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was the first treaty concluded between the United States of America and Tripolitania, signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796 and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S.Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797.
      The treaty was a routine diplomatic agreement but has attracted later attention because the English version included a clause about religion in the United States.
      As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @DavidLeoHeatherly  @cubbysmom
         Maybe THEY need to take a look at this treaty…they are the ones disrupting the harmony between our nations.

    • kat15

      @cubbysmom Don’t forget that O hates white people, probably starting with his white trash mother.

  • Cooki

    He won because he rigged the election – this video didn’t make it out before the election.  http://youtu.be/t4aKOhbbK9E
     
    As Americans, we pray, reload, reboot, and fight.  I don’t mean the simple namby pamby prayers either – prayers declaring what America is in the name of Jesus.  God is not finished with the U.S.A yet, good things are gonna  happen and there will be a huge revival.  Do not give up – ever!!
     
    http://politichicks.tv/author/barbaracook/

    • Emmess

      If you’re going to invoke the bible, start with Genesis 12:3 (those who bless Israel I will bless, he who curses Israel I will curse). Far from being Israel’s friend, America has actually betrayed that nation on almost every critical occasion. The military loan guarantees? They support U.S. military industry and are more than paid for in intelligence and access to technology. Egypt gets as much and contributes nothing.
      I do believe the hand of God was involved in the hurricane and the flooding but it’s retribution for betrayal. Notice how the storm skirted around Canada, Israel’s only avowed, true ally.

      • Cooki

        @ Emmess, you’re correct about those who bless Israel.  Thank you!

    • DavidLeoHeatherly

      @Cooki Because that video didn’t make it out? It’s a 12 year old video genius, and what it really shows is that Bush 2 STOLE the election in 2000
      Man you people are a breed alone (or inbred as the case may be)

      • Cooki

        @ David, why the hate and anger?  
         
        FYI, I am colege educated with a Master’s degree and 50% finished with a specialist program.  
         
        My breed, you mean those of us with common sense!

    • Don39

      @Cooki There was wide spread fraud and will be until we dispense with all the false accommodation and have only on site manual picture ID confirmed voting. In Ohio the Republicans arrived at the polls to cast ballots only to be told they had already voted by absentee ballot They were in some cases allowed to vote a provisional ballot that will be counted only ten days after the election is over In my state and personal experience, votes for Republicans were not counted, by half the machines in my precinct, and the poll workers admitted being aware of it but said they could do nothing about it. Those lost votes can not be ever counted and only proved on a case by case basis. Not all voters had the cahonies to demand the use of another machine. Multiply these example by the number of precincts across the nation and it is easy to see how the election was stolen.

      • Dawn unhappy american

        @Don39 I have heard the election is rigged years before the hats ever go in the ring. I never use to believe it but after these last 2 I am now a believer There can not be this many idiots in the world let alone in America to presumably re-elect this liar of liars…There will never be an honest election recount or re-vote no matter how many complaints of malfunctioning machines. I fear the only way we will be rid of the evil in OUR White House is for a jet to crash into it, taking out the illegal occupant. Its time to arm ourselves against what is coming .So my fellow AMERICANS grab your Bibles -grab your guns and stock up on ammo and food staples or else you may be grabbing your ass on obama’s road to hell He will show us horrors Steven Spelburg (sp?) could never dream up.May God watch over us—————————

      • Cooki

        @ Don39, thanks for the update on all of this.  People are beginning to wake up.

  • Big B

    You can blame the GOP.  You can say the election was rigged or come up with a thousand other excuses as to why the Republicans lost.  The facts are that you can’t compete against Santa Claus.  Bill O’Reilly said the people now expect free stuff from the government but Ben Franklin said id best:.  “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic”.  Our ancestors did us a huge disservice when they allowed the ratification of the 12th and 17th amendments.  The party’s over.

    • Mike Travis

      @Big B I can and do blame the gop because they failed utterly to fulfill their sworn duty to defend the Constitution on multiple occasions. No, they are responsible and must be held accountable.

      • Big B

        @Mike Travis My god!  If politicians lost because they didn’t fulfill their sworn duty to defend the Constitution; no one either Democrat or Republican would ever win.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Big B  @Mike Travis Or maybe they would start doing what they are supposed to do so they can get elected. Problem is we have allowed them to get by for way too long.

        • Big B

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Mike Travis True, but there’s no way the people can control the central government.  That is why the Founding Fathers left us with a system whereby the Presidents were chose by the Electoral College and the Senators were elected by the states.  Our ancestors did us a grave disservice with the 12th and 17th amendments.  Gary Adler,  who authored the book “The Evolution and Destruction of  the Original Electoral College”  said it best, “When your presidential election process is like a circus, you are bound to have clowns in the White House”.   This last election was right out of the Big Top.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Mike Travis  @Big B
         Amen!

    • JohnHart

      @Big B SS was made necessary by malfeasance of the Right, established by the Left and the Right did nothing to make it “right”  Government’s obligation to promote General Welfare was ignored by the Right, the Left established a secular religion in government to do it, then the Right gave them a pass.

      • Big B

        @JohnHart I didn’t mention anything about SS (whatever that is) or the government’s obligation to promote the general welfare.

        • JohnHart

          @Big B The Social Security trust fund, a forced government savings plan that’s been raided by both parties to buy votes. But the socialization of America started long before then. Dread Scott and the war against the States it caused was a patently un-Constitutional decision that was allowed to stand. The legislature should have convened a court of impeachment the next possible moment, tried the traitors and hung them. instead three million were killed, a number close to the total slaves in the country.

        • Big B

          @JohnHart Indeed, Social Security should be privatized so greedy politicians can’t get their hands on it.  Yes the Civil War was totally necessary and resulted in the deaths of 600,000 Americans.  Lincoln’s forcing the South back into the Union was tyranny and unconstitutional because the states are sovereign.

        • JohnHart

          @Big B I meant casualties and on checking found the estimated number of deaths was increased 750,000 recently.

      • NavyJR

        @John Hart: Promoting the general welfare doesn’t have anything to do with PROVIDING welfare!  It means insuring the national climate is such that people can work for their OWN well-being!  SS had NOTHING to do with the right as in conservatism; and yes our forebears failed to correct that error created under FDR; unfortunately before I was born!

        • JohnHart

          @NavyJR  @John You are ABSOLUTELY right. The three obligations of government are:
          1 Provide a stable Currency, NOT turn it over to private banks.
          2. Protect Property, NOT confiscate and re-distribute it.
          3. Promote Welfare, NOT provide it.
           
          In order for government to survive it can not violate these principles and it’s laws must be in harmony with them.
           
          The key is knowing Wealth is a contract, not a possession, enforced by government that is necessary for all other rights. The current system locks people in poverty and makes them dependent on government. The Right has done nothing about this problem because leaders of both parties are picked by money and the poor have none.

    • Don39

      @Big B In essence I agree, but the tip of the fraud iceberg is just beginning to be revealed!

      • Big B

        @Don39 It seems the issue of fraud surfaces after every election but it’s never pursued.  I wouldn’t expect much.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Big B  @Don39
           Never pursued in the past beause WE did not demand that it be pursued. We usually get no more than we expect!

  • donl

    Lock and Load, Keep the Powder dry, if you can’t shoot accurately shoot often.  That is what it is coming down to if the demo-commies cannot come to terms with the Repub’s.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @donlMy problem is trying to be sure I ONLY hit what I want to hit!

  • Jim Sedberry

    As stated in your article, which I wholeheartly agree, the only bastion we have left is the House. However, I am very much concerned that they too will waffle under external pressure brought on by their concern for the  “retention” of ones’ position in Washington.
    What really drives our elected officals , the “desire” to assist or the”power” one  receives when elected to such a high position?
    It is obivious that those that have retained power, (democrats) , have no concern for the average citizen, and wish only to retain the “power” portion, and will do so by any means “earthly” possibile.
    It is also obivious that democratic electorate, comprised of “moderates” (meaning as far left of center as possibile, and undescernable as a left winger), and true wild-eyed, outlandishly erratic, totally absent from this planet types, such as c matthews, are a danger to our nation, our country ,and to themselved.
    Now it is obovious as to the reasoning of our forefathers’ concern as to the vivabiliity of the “average man” being able to ascertain an intellegent vote, being faced with all of the promises of free money, healthcare, and support for all of their life in exchange for a simple vote.
    As we now witness,in the election of last night, millions have sold thier “soul” to the devil, in exchange for the above.
    Perhaps the “bondage “part should be returned, (i.e., such as slaves, etc.) to control an ever increasing society of complete and utter idiots.
    Because , at the rate we proceeding, God only knows what we will end up with as a “pretender president” in 4 years!

  • http://davesmithcm.com/ Antionus

    We must strive to keep our freedom at whatever cost.  This is a wake-up call to all patriotic and responsible Americans.  We are the half that works to support the other half.  If we fail America will fail.  We must continue being responsible and fight the tyranny ahead with defiance and dedication to our progeny.

    • JohnHart

      @Antionus If you want to keep your freedom you’ve got to respect the freedom of others. The system is rigged against individuals. Power gathered by the Rght to combat  vice are now in the hands of the Left being used to force US to pay for the murder of children. The people of a country can not escape the consequences of their corrupt leaders. The obligation to repay government benefits given out today falls on the children of tomorrow. It’s no wonder the party of the Culture of Death, the party of killing children, doesn’t care what obligations they are going to inherit.

  • Don39

    Revolution anyone? No. well I will give you a year of unfettered leftist Obama, and then ask again!

    • KellyKafir

      @Don39 YES!!!

    • JohnHart

      @Don39 The “revolution” won’t be going anywhere until the Right recognizes it has an obligation to help the less fortunate that is not fulfilled by claiming the rising tide raises all boats, when the system’s rigged to lock the lower classes in poverty. Republicans need a plan that people believe will make them wealthy. Those at the bottom are on the other side of a barrier the Right fails to recognize, that’s the error the Left exploits. I’ve been harping on this for years, none on the Right have noticed beyond deleting my posts about it from their blogs.

      • Daniel from TN

        You comments explain why obama won despite having the worse record of any president in US history. obama’s win can be summed up as this – Romney told the people what they needed to hear; obama told the people what they WANTED to hear.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        We must unite and immediately begin to petition our State leaders until they join together to stand against this travesty.

        • Virgil

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland Nobody listened to our cries during his first term, and they darned sure won’t during this term and his subsequent  dictatorship.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Virgil WE didn’t cry loud enough or often enough. WE must be relentless until our will is done.

      • Mixture V ranks

        @JohnHart  @Don39 “The “revolution” won’t be going anywhere until the Right recognizes it has an obligation to help the less fortunate that is not fulfilled by claiming the rising tide raises all boats, when the system’s rigged to lock the lower classes in poverty.”
         
        The fallacy with the above statement, Don39, is that it isn’t true, even on the face of it.  No one has any obligation to help anyone anywhere anytime with anything.  America became great because of individual responsibility.  Everyone could be a citizen and did not have to rely on heredity, aristocratic position or monarchial favors.  The Declaration of Independence upon which the US Constitution rests so declares this, that all men are created equal.  And that means all men are created equal before the Lord, an assumption which was taken for granted in the day it was written and for decades thereafter, too.  
         
        Along with this, the metaphor of the rising tide is true.  There is no nation in all human history, East or West, which has raised itself to the standard of living found in the USA overall and you will not be able to point one out for all of us.  The system is not “rigged” by anyone and our history is a matter of record in this regard. 
         
        As for the ‘lower classes’ being locked in poverty, first and foremost we have no ‘lower class’ which stays locked in poverty or anything else.  The record of the American people is that, sure, someone might be out of a job temporarily for all kinds of reasons, but they do not stay down, they rise, they change jobs, they get new ideas which they risk and which work.  Naturally, if you are looking to Europe as your guideline, then, this is true: there are lower classes there which stay in the lower class by birth and social rule.  England is a perfect example of this.  But the USA was designed by the Founding Fathers along different lines.  You are responsible for your own well being.  You are born into this land and all the rest of it, but what you wish to make of yourself thereafter is up to you.  No one owes you a living.  You learn to make your own way just as everyone else does.  This is what has made America great and for some strange reason this is what attracts almost everyone else in the world to come here.

        • Don39

          @Mixture V ranks  @JohnHart That was not my comment. I agree with you. Any such obligation is a religeous one and not a government one and can not be dictated by government and is not dictated by any reasonable law to include our Constitution! .

        • Don39

          @Mixture V ranks  @JohnHart The churches and other charities were doing a pretty good job before the government’s intervention. Their is no ‘lock’ on the lower class. their is a very small lower class which the left wants to keep in place to be exploited. People in poverty do not drive new automobiles and have multiple new appliances that people like me who have worked all their lives can not afford. People in poverty do not wear $200 designer jeans and shoes. I could go on but it has been a long two days.

        • JohnHart

          @Mixture V ranks  @Don39 It’s obvious you haven’t a clue wealth is a contract enforced by government, that wealth needs to pay for. When it doesn’t the burden falls on the poor, locking them in poverty until crafty leftists convince them the solution is confiscation and redistribution.  That’s where we are now.
           
          When “rich” corporations are taxed, product prices go up, wages fall or investors pay.  It ‘s the same with taxes on the super wealthy, their assets
          pay the taxes, not them and the cost of living for everyone goes up.
           
          Government has no right to redistribute income, from any source and doing so doesn’t help the poor, it makes their lives worse.  Open your eyes and trace how the taxes trickle down and trap the poor.
           
          AND just because you have a moral obligation to help the poor doesn’t mean government has the right to force you to do it. MORALITY is the province of religion the founding fathers rightly forbid government from establishing. Unfortunately that limit has been breached in so many places this once great nation is sinking.

        • JohnHart

          @Don39  @Mixture V ranks Unfortunately you are missing the point, as did Republican party leadership and it’s too lat to change the outcome. Until the fundamental unfairness of the system is recognized and dealt with by Republicans, the Left is going to remain in control, destroying the Nation.

      • Don39

        @JohnHart Your comments will go no where because they are nonsense and rightly ignored!

        • JohnHart

          @Don39 If you’re an Obama troll, the election’s over, you can go home. If you’re seeking truth, you have to open your eyes. Considering Obama’s dismal record, the election results should be 90% for Romney. By not recognizing the Left’s redistribution scheme is necessary because taxes end up in the price of products and that assets not labor pay the taxes of the rich,
          Republicans failed to address the concerns of the 47% and denigrated them as leaches. THAT’S WHY WE LOST.
           
          The poor have to labor to pay taxes,  once a person is wealthy, in terms of time they get a free ride. What in hell is wrong with letting the poor keep what they make? Why should their tax burden in terms of time be the greatest and for the wealthy the least?
           
          The argument isn’t about redistribution, it’s about letting people keep what they make until they have sufficient wealth to care for self and family. What in hell do you find nonsensical about that!

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      YES!!!!!!

  • Rick Black Sr

    Goodbye freedom and Liberty. The obituary for those two concepts was written last night with the reelection of our Socialist in chief, Obama. With no more elections to look forward to, his real agenda will come to the fore. By the end of the next four years, all of our fears and suspicions will come to pass and this once great nation will be no more due to national bankruptcy and the social, economic enslavement of a free people. It was once said that the only way this country can fall was from within. That now has come to pass. Once Statists gain power, the only historically proven means of removing them is by a people’s revolt paid for with their blood. Extreme? I think not. I am an old man an have seen the face of totalitarian regimes in many places and governments of the world to know where this is headed and it invariably never works. We will become a third world nation to be ruled by the UN and others as we spiral down the economic scale. Being an old man, I’ll not live long. But it is the children of today and tomorrow I fear for. For they will not know what it means to be sovereign unto oneself. To be an individual. This may be my last post or blog as it is very unhealthy to oppose such governments publicly. God bless the Republic and long live Freedom and Liberty. Resistance is inevitable and I will endeavor to devote the remainder of my life to it. Remember to keep up the fight and never give in to the darkness that is now engulfing us. I hope to see ya’ll on the other side when our Freedom Fighters win the Republic back for the people

    • Daniel from TN

      I disagree with your statement about no more elections to look forward to.  In the next few weeks I believe we will see an effort to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution, the amendment that establishes term limits for the president. obama may even request it at next year’s State of the Union Address.
      I believe you may be right about spilling blood to regain control of the country.  However, there is one way to avoid bloodshed and still get the country back on track. It is time for the states to convene another Constitutional Convention. I realize a convention has the potential of opening a can of worms; but have you taken a close look at the direction the country is currently headed?
      Can a convention make it worse?
      States. The ball is in your court. Will you protect the country or let it be destroyed?

      • Rick Black Sr

        You will never be allowed to hold a convention of that sort. I also take issue that you seem to think that this is still our country, it is not. Not one I recognize anyway. I will fight for my beliefs and the system of government as laid out by the Constitution, but that only establishes the type of governing, freedoms and limits of Federal power, not a country. So, I respectfully disagree that a Constitutional Convention can have some bearing on the direction we are headed in. Statist regimes , historically, have never allowed people to express themselves in such a way, just the opposite. Of course if you can pull this off, I will be happy to admit I am wrong and support you in your endeavor.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Rick Black SrDo we have another option at this point?

      • Eileen Jones

        You all seem to forget , WE THE PEOPLE, have the right to abolish a Gov’t if it works against the  welfare of the people and is a detriment to the country. We have the right to replace it with a Gov’t that will work for the welfare of the people and the country. All there in the Constitution. Don’t give up !!!!

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @ @Rick Black Sr @ Daniel  from TN  I share your fears, but only if we accept our fate and lie down and allow this to happen….I, for one ,  am not willing to give up. I still believe in the greatness of our country and in the spirit of our forefathers, who endured so much and fought so hard for our freedom. When the people (The popular vote)  stand together we will defeat the forces who have sworn to  destroy us. I have not been quiet the past 4 years and I will not stop now. I too am in the latter years of my life, but I do still have a lot of fight left in me. My children and grandchildren (and hopefully greatgrandchildren) WILL know the freedoms I have been so blessed to know and enjoy. Constitutional Convention? I do believe you were reading my mind. We must immediately begin to stand together and make our voices heard and listened to until our State governments take action. Who’s with me?

    • Virgil

      @Rick Black Sr One day all too soon I may meet you in a FEMA elimination camp.

    • Virgil

      I’m old, too.  One day all too soon we may meet in a FEMA elimination camp and reminisce over the good old days when we lived as free people in a beautiful God-fearing country that’s now gone forever.
       
      PS:  My original comment somehow got posted under Melba’s comment below.

      • Rick Black Sr

        @Virgil
         If Obamacare does not kill us first. :)

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Virgil maybe misguided for now but never lost forever.

    • Big B

      @Rick Black Sr I share your concerns. The Founding Fathers did everything they could to prevent this, but our ancestors just could’t leave well enough alone, they had to remove voting restrictions and  ratify the 12th and 17th amendments.  I wish somehow we could hold them responsible.

      • Changa 77

        @Big B  @Rick Black SrGet rid of them!!

  • KellyKafir

    Maybe all the business owners and taxpayers should “Galt out!!”

    • Big B

      @KellyKafir Many are.

      • chamuiel

        @Big B  @KellyKafir  so are the Doctors!

        • Big B

          @chamuiel  @KellyKafir So true, because of Obama Care and we will be the ones who suffer for it.

  • Jane Franklin

    The Free-Loaders are officially 51%.  We are no longer a Christian nation.

  • oldindianwoman

    @oldindianwoman I will always remember what I was doing the day the United States of America died, just like we remember 9/11. Nothing will ever be the same, again. My daughter reminded me of something stated in Atlas Shrugged. “LET IT BURN!” That’s how I feel at this time. I am in mourning for my country, but I can’t feel sorry for a people who would vote for that Socialist SOB. I’m grieving for those many brave men and women who have given their LIVES and limbs for our freedom. It was for nothing! We didn’t LOSE our freedom. We GAVE it away. I am also afraid that the Constitution will be amended to give BHO unlimited terms in office just like any other dictator gets. Remember, Hitler was VOTED into office TWICE in real elections. He killed Jews and the German economy. BHO has already killed our economy. The Jews (in Israel) are already in Iran’s crosshairs. What does that tell you? I think even God has given up hope for us. I don’t blame HIM.

    • JoSchwarz

      @oldindianwoman
       Me  too….I fee.l the same grief I did on 9-11 and 9-11-2012I have read many places that bammy had the muslim brotherhood kidnap the ambassador to trade for the blind shiek as an October surprise. to make him look good. That is why the Seals were told to stand down…0scumb was supposed to make the trade and be the fake hero….but the SEALs are men of honor and came to the ambassador’s rescue only to be murdered. I hope the SEALs make 0scumb a visit!

      • kat15

        @JoSchwarz  @oldindianwoman If anyone can take someone ‘out’, it’s the SEALs!
        GO NAVY1

        • oldindianwoman

          @kat15  @JoSchwarz God bless our SEALS!

    • danotexican

      @oldindianwoman
       I have taken down my American Flag until liberty and our country is restored. I leave my Texas flag up now, with the Tea Party Flag underneath. Too many of my forefathers sacrificed so much.

      • Eileen Jones

        @danotexican  @oldindianwoman
         You did just what Obama wanted you to do…. He HATES the American Flag .

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        I will fly my flag proudly. It’s our leadership I dislike, not my Counrty or it’s Flag.

      • Believer2

        @danotexican  @oldindianwoman
        @oldindianwoman I understand your feelings in this matter , however I encourage you to Raise our Flag High , In Honor of all who have sacrificed to establish and defend The Constitution which that Flag represents, and in Honor of all who still stand by her ,  Remember first and foremost in God WE Trust . 
        Keep the faith !!!  . Remember  there are  millions who have been taking stand against , the darkness , and Pray Our God guides our steps , for He said these days would come , the media that covered up stories , and hid truth from the public should be held accountable , pray Gods hand move against them .

    • Eileen Jones

      @oldindianwoman
       If we stand up and fight for our country, I’m sure God will be right by our side ! Remember He will always walk by our side. Have FAITH !

  • Virgil

    Throughout history, all the countries that had been led by black rulers have failed, America included.  Obama didn’t win because he is/was good for the country, but through reigniting racial tensions to 1960’s levels for (as he himself called it) “revenge”.  He handed out bribes, the least of which was Obamaphones (paid for with our hard-earned tax money) and coddled blacks, muslims, gays, illegals, and everybody but white Americans.  He admitted to hating the white race and denied his white heritage.  During his 2nd term, you can count on him to double-down on the evil things he’s been doing to take down America and deliver us into our fate as UN-controlled islamists.  The only thing I’ll get pleasure in seeing is that his “chosen people” won’t be getting any more freebies but will have to live their lives scraping for food, shelter and housing just like the rest of us in this soon-to-be third world country.  Of course, he’ll first try to eliminate as many white Americans as he can with those millions of bullets he bought all the federal departments on our tab.

    • Eileen Jones

      @Virgil
       I don’t know about you, but I’m not going down without a fight.

  • tobeornot

    You hit the nail on the head Virgil.   But , did you see all the white people cheering Obama’s victory?   Is,  there any place to move, now that agenda 21 will be put in place where people speak English and it isn’t cold?

  • Murfster

    Depending on your def of “Progress”, could be good or bad.

  • JoSchwarz

    I hope the SEAL’s take care of this problem

    • kat15

      @JoSchwarz They would be my first choice!!

  • MRE

    The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.  It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool.  It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

    • JohnHart

      If good people understood how they are being scammed we wouldn’t be in this mess. The problem was self righteous and leftists thought they new better than God they rejected.  The law of Love isn’t a suggestion, society does have an obligation to care for the poor. The left gained power because the right DID NOTHING to stop it. The Industrial revolution spelled the end to poverty, yet there are more poor now in the world than every.  The reason is the system is rigged by the powerful to maintain their power. They fund both wings, pay them to flap against each other.

    • Eileen Jones

      The truth was kept from the stupid public by the watchdogs of society…..MSM first of all. They glorified this man, protected him from scandal and demonized his opponent. Game , set, match !.

    • HowardPettyjohn

      MRE…So Well Said.  Should be read several times.  Man starting with Adam (the first man) chose to follow the Prince of fools, Satan, in place of God Himself.  Having been given the right to chose we were  given the right to go another way.  Some did and some did not.  Today in America the ones who choose Satan as their leader outnumber the others who chose  God as their leader.  God gave us all the ability to turn to him in faith which could still happen but until then the Prince of fools rules.  Who do you follow ?

      • Changa 77

        @HowardPettyjohn GOD!!!!

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @HowardPettyjohn
         GOD !!!!!!

      • chamuiel

        @HowardPettyjohn You do understand that the Democrats say they also follow GOD. It will take more than mere words to right this nation’s course. I saw Democrats praying to God and saying God granted their prayers them that Obama be reelected. Now Are we correct about God being on our side, or are they?> We cannot all be right.

  • Quigley

    Stupid people sold their homeland down the river to another hitler. I can’t believe the Jewish people voted for a person who hates them and the rest of the good hard working people in this country. He will let Israel burn! Where will the freeloaders get their freebies when the goose that lays the golden egg is dead? I can’t believe history is repeating its self, only this time there will be no united states to save us

    • JohnHart

      @Quigley Don’t blame the stupid people unless you’re willing to join the class. Everyone is being fooled. The Right and Left are controlled by the same power. If Republicans had reached out to the Wall Street protesters instead of calling them useless eaters and addressed their concerns in a way they could understand, Romney would have won by the biggest landslide in history.
       
      Christian society has an obligation to the poor that goes beyond rhetoric, failure to recognize that contributed to the Republican failure and the main power feeding the Beast.

      • chamuiel

        @JohnHart  @Quigley Reached out to the occupy crowd? Yep with a Police baton. John, if we do like you say, why don’t we just join the Democrat party and save everybody some time.

    • JohnHart

      @Quigley Don’t blame the stupid people unless you’re willing to join the class. Everyone is being fooled. The Right and Left are controlled by the same power. If Republicans had reached out to the Wall Street protesters instead of calling them useless eaters and addressed their concerns in a way they could understand, Romney would have won by the biggest landslide in history.
       
      Christian society has an obligation to the poor that goes beyond rhetoric, failure to recognize that contributed to the Republican failure and is one of the powers feeding the Beast.

      • chamuiel

        @JohnHart  @Quigley IJohn if we do as you say, why don’t each of us just join the Democrat party and save time. That is what you are advocating by suggesting we reach out to the occupy defacaters.

    • Changa 77

      @Quigley East Windsor is full of Jewish people that was out everyday to get him elected again. They run east Windsor and I can’t believe that they would push so hard for a man that well help blow them off the map. God help them!!!

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Changa 77  @Quigley
         so….we need to find out WHY they voted for him…..

        • mudguy

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Changa 77  @Quigley We aslso need to find why so many blacks vote for democrats when history shows that the from Abraham Lincoln through the sixties most of the Democrats voted against civil rights including Al Gore sr. and Byrd and LBJ when Eisenhower was President.

        • chamuiel

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Changa 77  @Quigley  I can tell you why. The Jewish people have always been active in the Socialist party. A Jewsish Supreme Court Justice by the name of Kagan wrote her college thesis on the Jewish influence on the Socialist party and why the Socialist party never obtained the influence or power of the Democrat or the Republican party, and then gave reasons as to how they could do exactly that. Obama appointed Elena Kagan to the Supreme court. She is a Socialist. Now do you see why jews support the Democrat party. It is the party closest to their political ideas.

  • chesnut

    A repeal of the 17th amendment would re-empower the state legislature allowing for far more states rights and control over the Fed Gov than is presently experienced. Any corruption that Teddy Roosevelt did away with paving the way for the passage of the 17th has been replaced by far worse consequences. The founders knew that each state needed teeth in Congress to provide that all important additional check and balance that haas been missing for the past 100 years. Why do you think the Feds are so powerful? No state can push back!!! We might as well have no states but become a national government. This is how we lose our freedoms and liberty incrementally.

    • Big B

      @chesnut Very Good.  A repeal of the 17th would be a vast improvement but the people will never allow their “right” to vote to be taken away and the politicians would fight it tooth and nail as well  Senators would have a boss for a change; the Governor.  We  have painted ourselves in a corner.   the 12th amendment should be repealed as well so the Electoral College can choose an executive for the Executive Office instead of the people electing a politician.

      • Dawn unhappy american

        @Big B  @chesnut We the people only believe our votes count –the office was bought and paid for by those with very deep pockets and off-shore accounts for their own agenda’s- These last 4 elections prove to me that we the hard working pay their paychecks and we the people people will only count as fodder to their greed and corruption.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Big B  @chesnut
         AMEN to that!

  • NavyJR

    @ Classic_Liberal: Ron Paul doesn’t have all the right answers either!  His FISCAL policies are sound; end of story!  For the rest; he’s as bad or worse than Obama!

    • Changa 77

      @NavyJR That shows you , you know nothing!

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @NavyJR
       Would you eplain your reasoning, please?

      • chamuiel

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @NavyJR Ron Paul want us to isolate ourselves from the rest of the world. That was tried in the thirties and we ended up being involved in WWII. The isolation idea will not, and has not worked. His ideas of legalizing and taxing dope will not set well with many people. Ron Pauls has some good ideas, and then he has some very bad one’s.

  • LibertySpeaks

    NEVER THOUGHT I’D SEE THE DAY
     
    I never thought I’d see the day
    Children not going out to play
    Carefree living not as all may
    Earned  money just flying away
    Working jobs not able to stay
    Mans retirement going array
    Inner hamlets in such decay
    Futures time in such a dismay
    Mankind just not allowed to pray
    The  good old life to see betray 
    The evil life having its full  way
    Righteous  living become decay
    Nothing left good for to say
    All mankind talking doomsday
    But to  mans faith  I say hooray
    Now good over evil is the heyday

  • oldindianwoman

    @oldindianwoman When the “takers” over-power the “makers”, there’s only one place to go…..DOWN. BHO will  spark some kind of “domestic unrest” just to enable his use of EXECUTIVE orders to control the web, weapons, etc. We must take care. Any excuse will be enough. However, God help the man/woman who tries to invade my home or take my guns. I am STILL a FREE American until I can no longer take a breath and will act accordingly. I just know that History tells us that the path we’re on has been traveled by many before us, and it never ends well. Look at Russia, Germany, China, North Korea. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It’s a phrase that no one seems to understand, anymore.

    • JohnHart

      @oldindianwoman It’s not a case of takers and makers, the system is corrupt. Those at the bottom are denied a practical way to climb up out of the hole by the Right and seduced by handouts of others labor by the Left.  The solution is to fix the system. Romney’s plan only scratched the surface of the problem. His election would have given US some breathing room, not we’ve got to come up with the correct solution and convince the “takers” they will be much better off wealthy than dependent on government “benefits”.

      • Don39

        @JohnHart  @oldindianwoman This is utter bull crap. But it a very long day and I do not have it i9n me to debate your socialistic crap!

        • JohnHart

          @Don39  @oldindianwoman You are a blind fool if you think the argument was for socialism. We’ve been living under corporate socialism for so long, most don’t even know it’s there. Your remark shows you haven’t got a clue what I’ve been writing about here. Read my other posts before jumping to wrong conclusions. Socialism is an evil lie that slowly sucks the life out of people. Having or letting huge government regulated corporations do it doesn’t make it better, it makes it worse.  Your post demonstrates the very thing I’m trying to point out. The Right is just as responsible as the Left, I believe in free enterprise, not crony capitalism. Freedom requires good government not ignoring the plight of the 47%. It the head in the sand attitude of people who won’t listen and jump to self righteous conclusions that caused this mess.

        • Changa 77

          @Don39  @JohnHart  @oldindianwoman Obama’s friend here.

        • Don39

          @JohnHart  @oldindianwoman Sounds just like you are describing yourself. Apparently you have a problem listening and comprehending what others say, even when you occasionally say something comprehensible that they can agree with.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @JohnHart  When Obama stops their benefits because he doesn’t need their votes anymore, hopefully they will get the idea.

      • chamuiel

        @JohnHart  @oldindianwoman John, you are going to make the poor wealthy? I have got to see this. Jesus said in the Bible, “The poor you will always have (but me you will only have for a little while)
         
         
        No amount of education, no amount of pulling them up by their bootstraps will ever do away with the poor. Many of them (even if they were wealthy) would soon lose it all due to their own stupidity. You plan won’t work.

        • JohnHart

          @chamuiel  @oldindianwoman Poverty is a spiritual problem government handouts make worse. What I am proposing is to eliminate them and let everyone keep what they make. If they don’t make anything they don’t get anything. The problem with the current system is scamers suck up the resources and getting the handouts becomes their “job”. Meanwhile those who really need help and want to work can’t find employment because taxes funding the handouts have killed growth and there are none.
           
          It’s a viscous cycle they are trapped in, and the fact some are dead beats doesn’t change the fact!

    • Eileen Jones

      @oldindianwoman
       Remember one thing……We out number them,  and even if we don’t our will and our spirit will not let them win !!!

      • chamuiel

        @Eileen Jones  @oldindianwoman We outnumber who? The blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, and their white followers? Surely you must be jesting. We are the new minority.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @oldindianwoman
       Well spoken. You are very wise.

  • ksikkihkini

    I absolutely agree with the oldindianwoman, since I’m an old indian man, if the people in this country are capable of reelecting obama then they deserve everything that’s going to happen to them.

    • JohnHart

      @ksikkihkini They’ve been lied to so long they don’t know what’s true. They are victims, as are we all. When the murder of unborn children was legalized there was no great public outcry. America deserves what it is going to get, unfortunately it’s our children’s children who are going to suffer.

    • Eileen Jones

      @ksikkihkini
      One problem with that, we didn’t vote for him and we are also going to get what we DON’T deserve. We didn’t drink the Obama kool-aid,  and we weren’t STUPID enough to vote for that Clown !!!!

    • Changa 77

      @ksikkihkini This is another old indian woman. really this is our country. Yet the white man came and took it over. Now he is running the white people out. What the hell is going on/

      • chamuiel

        @Changa 77  @ksikkihkini The ones doing the running out are the black, brown, and yellow skinned people. Look at obama.

  • 1 Fed Up American

    My Country Died on November 6,2012.  The only way we will ever rise again is for those who want there country back to REVOLT.  Yes take up arms and do what ever is necessary to regain control of our Government.  The politicians who are suppose to represent us have TOTALLY FAILED for many, many years to the point of where we are at now.  The failure of this country is directly attributed to our elected representives who created a do nothing for something mentality of the population and generations of WELFARE DEPENDENCY.
    Once you stymie the achievers you are on a path of destruction and thats whree this country is at.  In less than 2 years from 11-6-2012 you will see a total collaspe of our economy–China won’t bail us out -perhaps they wil take us over-who knows.  One thing for sure those who brought us down as a country will suffer right along with us for those that feel the Government owes them — the Government is BROKE PERIOD.  You will get NOTHING.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      MY Country is not dead yet. It may be wounded, but we can and will recover! We have allowed our representatives to do nothing and get by with it……that time is over. Enough of us are pissed off now and WE will NOT accept failure.

    • JohnHart

      @1 Fed Up American Perhaps it needs to go broke. Technology developed over the last century could end poverty World wide in less than a generation. Corrupt politicians working for elite masters designed the system to maintain their power. When people are free poverty will end. The key is a new form of governance that regulates by directing economic forces in free markets NOT by tax and spend.
       
      Proportional Asset Tax is fair, progressive income tax is growth killing slavery.

    • JohnHart

      @1 Fed Up American An Information Revolution is the answer. Show the 47% there is a path out of Democratic slavery and they’ll take it, keep thinking of them as the enemy and you will loose.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @JohnHart   First you must realize that not all of that 47% voted for Obama. A large number of the “1%” voted for him.

        • chamuiel

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @JohnHart the 47% are just a figure of speech. 47% percent of the people and their friends voted to reelect obama.

        • JohnHart

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland I believe some 0.000001% ers bankrolled his rise and pull the strings of his regime.

      • chamuiel

        @JohnHart  @1 Fed Up American I don’t think the 47% will listen. Why would they want to work, when they can get by without working. They have had 4 years to see what a disaster Obama was and is, yet they still voted for him. They believe us to be wrong and themselves to be right. You will not change their minds. They say we are the ones who want to shove Grandma off the cliff. They say we are the ones who want to do away with the poorest’s safety net. They say we are the ones who want to let the poo and elderly die. They say we are the ones who want to prevent women from getting any kind of health care. They say we are the ones who are the bad people. And 51% of this country believe them.

        • JohnHart

          @chamuiel  @1 Fed Up American I know people on food cards and unemployment, they are begging for work, not government handouts. Jerking their safety net wont’ get them employed, and threatening to do it didn’t get them to vote Republican.  A nations people need a real safety net, not the smoke and mirrors one politicians promise but can never provide. Real safety comes from communities that care. It can not be provided by a Federal bureaucracy thousands of miles away. The key to promoting General Welfare is giving credit to those who provide it.

    • JeffReuteler

      @1 Fed Up American
       I agree, trying to change America through the voring process is not working.  The only way that I see getting it back is by force.  I sat through Tea party meetings and listened to GOP candidates but I have run out of patience. After this election and we saw 60 million idiots vote for one of the biggest failures in history I was simply shocked and appalled.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @JeffReuteler   I agree, but 1st we must look at which demographics voted for Obama and why. We know why many did…….for their “free stuff or beause of race”, but there are some that it just doesn’t make sense. The ones who make no sense we must educate and re-educate until they are able to see clearly….then we will be on the right track.

    • Changa 77

      @1 Fed Up American You say take up arms? What do you think our troops well do when they get back here and find that there is no work for them. When they are over there they are keeping us safe. Here they won’t have that. They well soon be homeless ect. The people that Obama has let in here have all the jobs. I am like some one else said. Let the jerks in the white house go home and go to work like our for fathers did.They go home with a bank full of money and get another boat load every year. Just for tearing the U.S.A. apart!!! Think about it long and hard!

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Changa 77   We ould remedy that by stopping all lifetime benefits, requiring them to participate in only what is available to the general pubilic, and term limits.

        • chamuiel

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Changa 77 Term limits? You think the people in power now, and their supporters will go for that? I do not.

  • Hollowpoint16

    This election finished me off.  I have tried and tried to convince people of the dangers of Obamanation but obviously to no avail.  I was sickened last night and cried for my beloved but dying country for which so many have given their lives and fortunes.  It’s over as far as I’m concerned.  NOTHING can change the direction now.  This is the last time I will have ever voted.  No more. Americans who voted for Obama are sheople being led to the slaughter and I am sorry to say they will get what they deserve. God help us and God help Israel.  Now it is just time to prepare for rough times and a government who will strip us of what rights we haven’t yet given away.  Thank you to all of you who voted for Romney.  At least we can say we tried.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      Don’t give up. Strengthen your resolve. We are NOT finished yet.

      • JohnHart

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland JUST GETTING STARTED!  Romney wasn’t the answer, just a stop gap to buy more time. Perhaps it’s better this way, a cleansing by inflationary fire leading to bankruptcy of the Federal Reserve.

        • chamuiel

          @JohnHart  @MelbaSimmonsRowland  How can you bankrupt the Federal Reserve? They will just print more money.

        • JohnHart

          @chamuiel  @MelbaSimmonsRowland Good point!

    • Doomsday Boy

      You know, Hollowpoint16, your message is precisely my thoughts this morning. I took the precaution of going to bed before the electioni results came in last night. (I actually dreamed that Romney WON with 300 electoral votes!! What a wonderful dream. Wish I hadn’t woken up!). But this morning when I heard the results of the election I decided I was done with my country and my political party. No more conservative talk radio (after today), no more Fox News, and no more politics. I even checked into immigration requirements to move to New Zealand. I am still fed up. And I fear I know what’s coming our way from this president and this terrible administration. I don’t feel much like a patriot. But I love my country. I don’t want to witness its final destruction. But that is what I fully expect will transpire. I have no faith in the Republican Party and will rescind my lifetime membership later this week. I will claim membership to Independent (unless I decide to pursue the New Zealand option). I’m no saying you’re right to pack it in and turn your back on voting in any future elections. So far as I’m concerned at this point I do not believe this country truly has a two party political system despite the outcome of the 2010 midterm elections. Many of those Republicans who were elected in the midterms got broomed out of office last night (say goodbye to Allen West in Florida). It’s depressing. And aggravating. And I also feel like sitting out all future elections and let someone else go through this anguish while I watch NASCAR racing or Home Shopping Network and tune out to all political issues. It’s a temptation. I think we should both re-evaluate our plans at the end of the week.

    • Eileen Jones

      We can change the direction by calling and emailing our reps. in Wash some of them come up for re-election in 2014, and if they want to keep there jobs , they WILL listen.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @Eileen Jones
         Oh yes they will…and if they don’t, they will be unemployed

    • Changa 77

      You forget the idiots that jump on here and talk all kinds of crap and they voted for Obama.

    • chamuiel

      Hollowpoint16, you have pretty much summed up my feelings also.

  • oldindianwoman

    @oldindianwoman 1 Fed Up American, I agree with your premise about the politicians. First, we must set term limits. NO ONE should have a FORTY YEAR CAREER in Congress or the Senate! It should be like the presidency, 2 terms and OUT. That would fix a lot of the problems there. We should also remove their lifetime benefits for public service. Let them find jobs like the rest of us. Maybe that would end the pandering to the unwashed masses. 
    Unfortunately, now, we must deal with the society of dependency, BUT they are in for a rude awakening. Half of NOTHING is still NOTHING! When China calls in our debt, who’s going to pay? When some low-life third world dictator calls for help (money), who’s going to give it? Not us. We’re broke. Therefore, some other country will have to pony up, or do without. All those little kiddies we’re constantly being shown standing ragged and barefoot may not be in some other country. They may be your neighbor’s kids (or your own). So, the PARASITES of America may have shot themselves in the head by re-electing our LIAR in CHIEF. No jobs, no taxes, no welfare. Awwwwwwwwwww…

    • JeffReuteler

      @oldindianwoman
       In addition we just print more money which continues to dealue it and when the dollar is removed as the world currency wemay see hyperinflation.  The fighting over food will make the fighting after Sandy seem like childs play.

    • chamuiel

      @oldindianwoman We at this point in time are not going to be allowed to do anything. The libs are in charge, and if they don’t want term limits or anything else, there won’t be any.

  • Doomsday Boy

    This has been a tough day. I don’t know what to do at this point. I believe the GOP failed us and the Democrats will destroy my country. And, further, there is little or perhaps nothing we can do about it. This country, make no mistake, is no longer a two political party country. The Republican Party is no longer relevant to the United States. It is the party of aging white people. Even had every white voter in the country voted for Mitt Romney last night it wouldn’t have been sufficient to counter the black, Asian and Hispanic/Latino voters who voted. The Republican Party is no more. And it was shown last night. I plan to revoke my Republican membership this week and register as a an Independent. That’s a big deal for me. I’ve been a Conservative Republican all my life and so were my parents before me. But I’m also an informed voter. I do considerable research on proposals and candidates before casting my votes. And I will continue to do so. But I will no longer be a Republican. And I may even revisit my Conservative standings. You have to hand it to the Democrats – – they have a fierce ground game. Obama will likely sell out our country to foreign interests by reducing our atomic weapons and allowing foreign interests to take our natural resources like oil reserves which we are restricted from drilling for ourselves. Perhaps it’s time to check on properties in New Zealand. I think they still have some freedoms over there. America is still a wonderful country. Let’s enjoy it for the next short time period until it’s gone. It will vanish entirely soon. You can take that to the bank.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @Doomsday Boy Did you hear the “fat lady sing”? I didn’t!

      • Changa 77

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Doomsday Boy Yes I di when I went away from the Dem party just so I could vote Obama out and he is still there. Kiss yourself good bye. It is over. We that believe in God well win. You that don’t have sold your country down the tubes. I love God and America.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Changa 77  I haven’t sold MY Country down the tubes. I did everything I could do to convince people to not vote for Obama…some I was successful with, some I wasn’t. But I did not give up then and I refuse to give up now. My God is an awesome God and with his blessing the America I know and love will be restored to it’s full glory.

    • JeffReuteler

      @Doomsday Boy
       Obama has already reduced our nuclear arsenal and will continue to do so.  I have always been a independant.  The dems lie and smear so well while most Republicans still try to be gentlemen.  well the masses are stupid and fall for the lies.  America is doomed.  Romney could have won if the 1% who voted for third party candidates would have used some brains and realized a vote for anyone else was the same as voting for Obama.  I no longer pledge any lyalty to the US Goernment and will start living in civil disobedience.  When so many embrace immorality and godlessness society is doomed.  God is in cotrol and can bring about revival at anytime but we have the public schools which now teach propaganda that falls right into the dems hands.  The public schools is hwere change must begin if we hope to save this country from total destruction.

      • MelbaSimmonsRowland

        @JeffReuteler  @Doomsday Boy I Pledge Alligence to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for whhich it stands….One Nation Under GOD with Liberty and Justice for all.
        But you are wrong about one thing, change must begin at home and then  in our churches. We cannot (nor should we) rely on or expect  schools to teach morals and values. Isn’t that how we got in this mess to begin with? Let the schools teach reading, writing and arithemtic with history and science thrown in for good measure.

        • Big B

          @MelbaSimmonsRowland @JeffReuteler @Doomsday Boy Government schools are not teaching students about the founding fathers, the Constitution and how the republic is supposed to work. The government, especially the federal government should get out of the education business.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Big B   You are right. Government needs to get out of Education…at least the part that lets them dictate what teachers can teach.

        • chamuiel

          @Big B  @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @JeffReuteler  @Doomsday Public Government Schools are teaching Social Justice now.

      • Changa 77

        @JeffReuteler  @Doomsday Boy My kid came home from her first half year of college when Obama first came into office. She wasn’t old enough to vote then but she said to me Grand ma, I am going to vote for Obama when I get old enough so we can get somewhere. they told me you live in the old school, that she knew more then me. Since then she has been telling me how great Obama is. Sure enough yesterday she voted for Obama. I got sick. I wasted 21 years of my life teaching her right from wrong and she has no morals what so ever.

        • Stan Lee

          Changa 77:
          I’m sorry to know of your grandchild experience. I know how you feel, I have similar circumstances with grandsons. You invested 21 years in her, but you’re still whole…she’s missing out. There’s two grandsons of mine that were given an ultimatum not to bother me until some maturity matched what they think they know. I guess grizzled, old, grandpas can get away with it, because those guys ask their parents how I’m doing and apparently are too embarrassed to approach me. I say let ‘em stew in their juice, they can use some “tough love.” I’ll give them as much of that as it takes.

      • chamuiel

        @JeffReuteler  @Doomsday Boy That was a question I had about third party votes. Would they have made enough difference if they had gone to Romney?

        • tadlem

          @chamuiel @JeffReuteler @Doomsday Boy
          Yes, it would have made the difference. There are several good article out there about it. I have written my own angry commentary about it. May God have mercy on us all!!
          TO ARMS, MY FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! With God by our side and fire in our breath, we are only dead if we allow ourselves to be!!

    • Eileen Jones

      @Doomsday Boy
       We don’t have to lay down and die, where would we be if our forefathers had done that. WE ARE AMERICANS, we don’t settle  we stand up for our rights and we fight to the end.

      • Changa 77

        @Eileen Jones  @Doomsday Boy yes but we have to stick together.
          He is bringing our troops home, where are they going to work? Where are they going to live. He has bought every country in to our America and gave our jobs to them. Where are these brave men and women going. The only thing that is happing is we are weak over seas and here as well. God can do things Obama or my children can’t do.   Pray a true one. TO GOD  not Obama.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @Changa 77   We need to put our troops returning home to work guarding our borders. And if that isn’t enough jobs for them, hiring a vet needs to be a top priority for every business  and law enforcement organization. I have rental properities and I have always given decreased rental rates to those serving in the military, vets, law enforcement and firefighters……just one little way I can say “THANK YOU for your service to my country. I appreciate your sacrifices!”

    • chamuiel

      @Doomsday Boy New Zealand, according to my New Zealand friends are over run by serious libs. They say our Democrat party would be considered conservatives compared to their liberals.

  • Dodie1990

    This may be the last election for America. The free riders(47%) and the rest of the welfare bums have prevailed and the rest of us will pay forever. Our military is doomed to be an ineffective bunch who cannot win a small war(Iraq) rorAfghanistan. Obama will cut them to the bone and we will be unable to fight and win again for a long time.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      Actually the IRS says 50% of all citizens who actually file tax returns do not pay any taes at all, but That “47 %” are not all freeloaders, some of us have worked hard, paid our dues, but are now trying to survive on very limited incomes or just Social Security. Some of that “47%” are legimately unemployed by no fault of their own. The freeloaders and welfare bums will find their “victory” short lived. How long do you think it will be now before their handouts stop? Obama doesn’t need their vote anymore. Obama may try to weaken our military, but in the end I think he will find their determination , loyaty to our ountry and pride to be a force to be reckoned with. .  So don’t count us out just yet. It’s not over unless we let it be over.

      • chamuiel

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland Why do you think the Government (obama) has allowed the Military to be over run by gays? He will not only reduce them to a size where they are no longer a force to be reaconed with, but also demoralized them to the point they will not fight him.

  • http://davesmithcm.com/ Antionus

    Yes John, we do have to respect the freedom of others.  However, when you allow immoral and irresponsible behavior you have to give up the freedom to hold to your values because they affect your daily life.  I cannot understand anyone who would vote for any democrat.  When the party voted three times to remove God from their platform it should have sent up red flags to any rational person that this is not a party that can be trusted to lead the nation.  History is repeating itself and half this nation is ignoring it.  Sodom and Gomorrah is alive and well in America and we know how that turned out, well, half of us know, half of us don’t, or don’t care.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      The half of us who do care have GOD on our side and THAT gives us the advantage. When we stand with God, He will stand with us.  HE will protect and show us the way. He has blessed us before and He will bless us again.

    • Eileen Jones

      @Antionus
       What you said reminds me of Judas denying Jesus 3 times, God must be so hurt…It hurts me toi think of Him that way.

    • JohnHart

      @Antionus Don’t allow it, don’t criminalize it you’ve got to come out with an answer in harmony with God’s plan.  The father didn’t send he men after the prodigal son, Jesus didn’t stone the adulteress. The criminalization of alcohol contributed to Obama’s election and the chastisement of unwed mothers led to the abortion holocaust.  Blowback is the term Ron Paul used. Republican self righteousness helped drive the 47% into the Deathocratic camp but Republican compassion can win them back.

    • chamuiel

      @Antionus So, by their actions we can believe that Democrats are not rational beings!

    • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

      @Antionus
       Amen and John Thank you for the refreshing statment. It seems half of the people do know their history the fall of the Roman Empire, the British Industeral Empire, what caused those Great Empires to fall is being repeated today in America, I pray that God will show us his plan and how we can reach out and bring this Great Nation back Under God.

  • mallen11

    Where do we go from here?
    1. God has a plan. 2. God has a plan for us. 3. God is perfect. 4. God’s plan is perfect 5. What God doesn’t remove, we are to endure. 6. We rely on His grace in times of adversity/prosperity. 7. We rely on His Word in times of adversity/prosperity. 8. We are able to relax in our thinking and share His happiness. 9. We are able to switch our concentration from circumstances to Him. 10. Four more years? So what? What are four more years in the light of eternity? Nothing. Four more years to glorify Him in times of tremendous pressure. Four more years of witnessing Him sustain us. Four more years to bring the ONLY message that brings “Hope and Change” and that is: The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Four more years of blessing:
    “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord And whose trust is the Lord. “For he will be like a tree planted by the water, That extends its roots by a stream And will not fear when the heat comes; But its leaves will be green, And it will not be anxious in a year of drought Nor cease to yield fruit.

    • John Sotomayor

      Thanks!  Than was refreshing to read and reflect on, once again.

      • mallen11

        @John Sotomayor
         It was for me too, John.

        • SofiesVoice

          @mallen11  @John Sotomayor For me too!

  • Damon

    Reading these posts, and after praying and begging God not to let it happen and talking to people today, they feel the same way. My fear is for the Country and if everybody will look back and see the natural disasters, even to the last minute of hurricane Sandy, of which God was trying to get the attention, but vastly ignored. I told several people that if we lose this election the United States is over. Partly to blame is our own Republican Party who could not quit blasting Romney right up through June. Remember, it was the candidates who brought up Baines and drove this in the ground. They would not shut their stupid mouths and helped destroy Romney, who was already weak to begin with. We had no real Republicans that could defeat Obama and he played his strategy well.  The Black race has learned the strategy to  “Divide and Conquer” and use this against the white race very well. I have seen this in the work place for years.  I am not a racist but do believe laws now need to be changed. We have to keep fighting for the future of our children, we cannot give up. God is not through with this Nation and the proof is our Republican Congress who can stop a lot. We are all disheartened of the elections, at least half the Nation but I have to say, when God destroyed Sodom and Gomorra, Lot pleaded with him to save the city. If God could find one righteous man, he would spare the city–not one was to be found–the United States has more than one. WE must keep our heads up although for a short period of time we have been knocked down–we will bounce back up and become stronger–God Bless America.

    • Doomsday Boy

      Damon, I appreciate your faith. I have no more faith in my country or the Republican Party. I believe the Republican Party is finished. It’s been on lifesupport for many years but yesterday’s defeat was the final nail in the coffin. The Republican Party has become totally irrelevant today. It is the party of white Americans. That may have worked in the ’50s and ’60s but today it cannot survive. The party needs to be disbanded. There is no basis for its continued existance. I’m not advocating a single political party, although that is essentially what we have now, but perhaps we need to model more from the Democrat Party before the Socialists took it over. The Dems know how to organize and get representation from the citizens of the country. They know how to be relevent. Of course they also know how to pass out entitlements and spend tax money. That part of the franchise must be avoided. But perhaps it’s time for a lighter version of the Democrat Party to replace the once noble Republican Party. Let’s face it, the Republican Party died last night. If we couldn’t defeat a president and a political party with the horrible track record they had I do believe we’ve reached the end of the line,

      • FAAQ2

        @Doomsday Boy  STFU BOY YOU HVE NO CLUE AND YOUR THE A GOOD REASON WHY WE SHOULD PRESS ON BEFORE GIVING IN TO THE COMMIE DEMOCRAPS..

      • chamuiel

        @Doomsday Boy The Republican party if it is to survive must stop serving up obama lites such as Mccain and Romney. No more Republican Establisment types for President.

      • panors77

        @Doomsday Boy  The Republican party needs to return to it’s Lincoln roots.  It’s the Republicans that were the abolitionists.  The dems were the slave owners and later brought in Jim Crow.  That said…I agree that the RINO’s need to go. Return to the dems or the CPUSA.

  • Changa 77

    God Bless these words they mean a great deal. Pray my friends that is our last GOD! He well bring us through gthis. He is showing you he is alive and well. Don’t let they devil take you down. Put your flags up. Put God out there for the world to see.

  • deebar

    The win wasn’t a surprise to me , the math never added up . Perhaps now people can get to the only way to get our country back . That is get back to the fundamentals that founded our country in the first place . It may now be evident to you folks that we have no input to what govt does before this election and now after .
    If we don’t control our local we cannot have any control higher up . Get a grip folks , you’ve seen how it works and it doesn’t work for us .

    • chamuiel

      @deebar I still like the idea of splitting into two countries. The libs get the East and west Coasts, and we get everything else. Of course we will have to have a strong prescence on all borders to prevent illegal libs from sneaking in, and they will when there is no one left to give them freebies.

      • deebar

        Chamuiel , We have a big disconnect in this country and it will remain that way . One party masquerading as two . We are owned lock stock and barrel but people just don’t see it .

        • chamuiel

          @deebar People don’t want or refuse to see it.

  • scottie526

    My take on this mess is that those that want things from the Administration actually want more and more freebies  each and every day and they feel that they deserve it. Unfortunately, it will come a day when the number of people that are paying in taxes, blood and sweat for those that need (those on entitlements), the money will dry up and we shall see a revolution in this country the likes of which I dread, like we see evolving in Europe, namely Greece and Spain. Even the majority of the military dislikes BHO and does not see him as a commander in chief. At least we still retain the second amendment and I, for one, am prepared for whatever comes my way as I am sure many of you are too. Problems of this country are many due to the liberal minds and the one that cannot come to light is a One World Order for those from the Middle East that are part of the Muslim Brotherhood want to destroy all that do not follow Allah. This is not a One World Order; it is total chaos and to live in a world with others like them is not an acceptable choice!

    • SofiesVoice

      @scottie526 Speaking of the military, what happened to the military votes??  We all know Obozo was trying to make it impossible for the military to vote.  No one mentioned the military vote  Obozo hates the military.  And, were all the votes finally counted in those crucial states i.e. Ohio, Wisconsin, etc. etc.???  Or did the libs just choose to give them to Obozo?  Oh, my, four more years of blaming Bush….oh, yeah, he can blame himself because of his failure of the previous four years!!!

      • NavyJR

        @SofiesVoice  He succeeded; most didn’t get to vote, AGAIN!

      • scottie526

        @SofiesVoice Sofies, I agree with you in terms of the military votes were not counted due to stupidity and isolation of the troops. Most of them are fighting for this country and cannot follow the debates and current events, but I am sure that what they see is not what they want from a commander in chief that leads from behind, way behind to protect his rear.
        I always wondered whether the votes were truly counted. In addition, I think God is punishing NY and NJ with Sandy and now with the snow storm for voting for Obamanuts. This is poetic justice but unfortunately he still got the electorial votes from these two states. I live in Buffalo and everyone around here hates Obama and voted for Mitt so I guess it wasn’t large enough to make that difference.
        Look at it this way….at least Obama can now blame the person that occupied the WH for the past 4 years…duh, that was Obamanuts himself. Guess he will go back to blaming Bush one more time but I hope that people will get sick and tired of aiming blame at everyone but himself! Heaven forbid.

    • panors77

      @scottie526    Why do you think the military was blocked from voting?

      • scottie526

        That one is easy….they would have voted for Mitt. Why do you think Obama shipped in all the illegals? To vote for BHO and to live in this country for free, get free stuff, go to school for free, live for free, free food stamps, etc. What a life not having to contribute to this country but to be a leach sucking the country’s finances dry.

  • Stan Lee

    “Where do we go from here?” I’m prepared to listen to the moaning from those folks who voted for Obama. I know I’ll be hurt some, too. However, and I’ll bet most of them have no clue, Obama and his gang of egg-heads have many unopened presents to spring on this country and it’s got to start happening soon.
    For those who thought he was their best bet, what they get will be poetic justice. For the rest of us who didn’t back Obama, we too, will have aches and pains….except we really won’t be surprised. The dummies living in fantasyland will be more than surprised. Those new 16,000 IRS examiners are  chafing at the bit!

  • Brabbie2002

    I have a quote for all of you! Kiss your butts good-bye! This will be a UN run, Muslim nation within two years with we Christians losing our homes, jobs, and lives so some communist non-american whacko can take over a once great country! It will be hitler all over..it will start with unkept promises, then we will lose our freedoms one by one because we “have” to conform and condone the Muslim faith -Jesus can be slandered and Christmas dropped, but DO NOT, if you wish to live, say anything against mohammed. Let me be the first to say he was a child molester and thief. You want this old lady dead, come get me! And, believe me, I won’t be the last nor am I unarmed! That door you kick in is NOT for my protection!

    • SofiesVoice

      @Brabbie2002 Hitler is who I thought of when I heard Obozo deliver his acceptance speech.  That fervent message was like all the promises made to those brain-washed citizens who believed that  Hitler was the messiah like these people who voted for Obozo.  God help us!

    • chamuiel

      @Brabbie2002 Mohammad was also a sadist, murderer, and rapist.

      • panors77

        @chamuiel  @Brabbie2002   …..and of course slaughtered the meccans into submission.

  • SofiesVoice

    We’re all going to hurt….but we won’t be shocked.  We know what’s going to happen.  But it might be kind of fun to watch the takers when the trough is empty and they have their snout in the trough ready to commit  gluttony.  And, it will be really sad when the elderly are sent to the death panels who will decide who deserves to live or where treatment will be considered a waste, and when we see obozo bragging that he has improved the unemployment  rate when he hires those IRS agents to snoop into your finances, checking and savings accounts, how and where you spend your money because if you make some money you don’t deserve to keep it….you must give it to those with their snouts in the trough……Do you get it???

    • chamuiel

      @SofiesVoice Please quit talking about the elderly and the death panels. As an elderly gentleman this is really starting to depress me.

    • panors77

      @SofiesVoice    Watch BO bring in soylent green for the “elderly problem”….pheh!!

  • Deodidact

    I am familiar with the writings of Alexander Tytler [the article author misspelled the historian's surname] and have an 1824 copy of his History.  I think of his cycle as the cycle not of democracy but of civilizations.  Ours is clearly in decline.  I was born 250 years too late to witness the birth of the republic, but I never really thought that I would be a witness to its demise.  The awkward thing about a democratic republic is that we get the government we choose and we deserve the government we get.  As a nation, we chose Obama, a fraud, a usurper, an anti-colonialist, and a Muslim.  He has so many reasons to hate us.  Without examining his record and past, we chose him to lead us.  We therefore deserve everything he will do to us.  Not all of us individually but, unfortunately, nations stand or fall together and so we will fall with our victorious opponents who do individually deserve everything he does to them. 
    We are at the tipping point.  When the government has trained a majority of Americans to sit up straight and beg for peanuts, be those peanuts food stamps, unemployment benefits, EITC, free phones, free internet service, tax deductions for childcare…and yes, subsidized prescription drugs, subsidized healthcare, mortgage interest tax deductions, child income tax credits, alternative energy tax credits, etc. there will be no going back, except by the grace of God.  We have become a corrupted people, expecting to living at other people’s expense.  We maneuver for advantage through the tax code, bribed by politicians for our votes.  Collectively, we have been fools.  Republicans are in many cases little different from Democrats.  They are, for the most part, not in principle opposed to the nanny state; they just think they can run it more efficiently.  They are Socialist-lites.  But why should people choose Socialism-lite when they can have The Real Thing?  That is what establishment Republicans fail to understand.  They will never win by offering diet when the voters can choose The Real Thing.

    • chamuiel

      @Deodidact Even though you are correct, I still prefer to think They chose obama, unfortunately, I and others will also get his brand of Government,

    • deebar

      @Deodidact What we have and you said it , there is little difference between the parties . Could that be because their isn’t ? Our candidate was chosen for us , not by us . We have a candidate much like McCain , one that wouldn’t call a spade a spade , no pun intended . He kept saying that Ocrap was a nice guy . Is that absurd or not ? Folks , when you realize that the bread is buttered for both sides by the same cabal only then will we have a chance . They have come too far to lose now and as long as there are people to believe their story we’re in more trouble , more than what we can endure .

    • panors77

      @Deodidact   I for one and an “anti-socialist” Republican.  :)    I hate marx and everything he stands for.

  • HowardPettyjohn

    Maybe Al Jolson had the right idea.

  • AJK105

    Does anyone know if the Military ballots ever got here and if they are being counted.  Or will they dump them again as in Florida with the 12,000 they had in 2008.  
    I think it’s a discusting that we are treating the Military with no respect as to their votes.

    • mudguy

      @AJK105 They never got them.

      • chamuiel

        @mudguy  @AJK105 , so they say.

        • NavyJR

          @chamuiel To which “they” do you refer?  The military didn’t get their ballots in time to get them back to be counted IF some DID get them at all!

    • SofiesVoice

      @AJK105 We the People need to know about the Military votes.  We need to make a big stink about this.  You saavy people about YouTube……make a video and show it in the internet and let it become viral.  We need to fight back!!! Go, man!!

  • JohnHart

    Taxes, no matter who they’re levied on, end up in the cost of living and are born most by the poor. A rich man doesn’t need to work a second paying taxes his whole life. Wealth is a contract enforced by government the poor work most to protect and the rich work the least.  The answer is to let people keep everything they make until they have sufficient wealth to care for self and family. When taxes are indexed by wealth, included in costs and converted into time, the poor work most of their lives paying them and the rich work the least.

    • Don39

      @JohnHart No the answer is to have everyone pay exactly the same percentile, no matter what they make, be it a dime or a million dimes on what they earn.

      • Normal_Guy

        @Don39  @JohnHart  That’s what they do in Hong Kong; your tax is either 15% or 17% (high income bracket), and you pay nothing until the ned of the year. And then it’s a straight payment without exception or deduction. BTW, the HK government collects so much in taxes that it is giving refunds to all citizens.

      • NavyJR

        @Don39  And if the poor, with their low incomes to start with, pay 10% of their income in taxes, and then pay the added markup on products or services to pay for the taxes imposed on the rich too, can you not see where that leaves them?  Make NO mistake, EVERY tax levied on the corporations and businesses IS paid for by the consumers of goods and services, NOT the “rich” owners of said corporations or businesses!  The poor have difficulty enough now providing for their necessities, especially seniors, veterans or the disabled on fixed incomes, who are TRYING to do so without accessing MORE “government handouts” to survive!

        • JohnHart

          @NavyJR  @Don39 Thanks, I was beginning to doubt anyone could hear me.

    • chamuiel

      @JohnHart So, are you agin em, or fur em?

    • OKC08GT500

      @JohnHart
       Nice rant, comrade.

    • DanielWatland

      @JohnHart
       The more money being circurated, the more our taxesw are paid down. We pay a 7% local tax on everything but grocery’s.

  • JohnHart

    Confiscating income and re-distributing it like the Left demands to correct the problem, makes it worse.  Income is growth not wealth. Taxing income kills growth, jobs and the chances of the poor to climb up out of the hole they’re trapped in.  The 47% remark cost Romney the election. It was like calling Obama a n—-r and Democrats knew how to twist it around his neck.
     
    Waiting for approval to use the n word

    • Don39

      @JohnHart Agree. The ultimate cost to include taxes is on the consumer and taxing the rich is a penalty that the poor ultimately share to the extent not offset by further penalties  on the income tax payer. Those who can least afford it pay ultimately for the taxation of corporations and businesses in that the cost is included rightly in the cost of doing business and the final cost markup.

      • panors77

        @Don39  @JohnHart   I’m afraid in BO’s government especially after 2016 and beyond…..there won’t BE any “buying/selling” of anything allowed.   No currency, no business….just dependence on BO’s regime.

        • JohnHart

          @panors77  @Don39 If the Federal Reserve fails, States will step in and provide currency probably based on silver and gold.

        • DanielWatland

          @JohnHart  @panors77  @Don39
           We don’t have any more gold in our circulation, that was taken away in 1964, remember? Guess where it is now? Silver and gold should still be in the hands of the people. Our U.S. Constitution gurantees our payments be in silver or glod.

    • NavyJR

      @JohnHart Only because the LEFT took it out of context and twisted it.  Romney never said he was writing OFF the 47%, only that he knew wasting money trying to win their VOTES was futile.  And he was right about that.  They didn’t want to hear a message that included having to go back to work for what they want, in most cases.  SOME FEW of those are on Social Security or VA pensions, and didn’t vote for Obama anyway, but those on welfare don’t want to hear about working for it.  I remember a time, about 1959 or 1960, when one of the mayors of NYC suggested the people on welfare, some already 3rd generation recipients there, WORK for their checks; and the riots that followed that… HE capitulated….!  And look what we have NOW!

      • JohnHart

        @NavyJR I have an idea how to phase out government handouts, reign in the banks, stabilize the currency, end poverty and solve the SS Trust fund crisis by simply changing the tax system so economic forces work to empower those with the solutions not cronies of politicians. A new form of governance where politicians no longer get to tax and spend but are limited to setting the thresholds and rates of taxes on assets.
         
        The current income tax Bureaucracy, Federal Reserve and SS Trust fund could be transformed into it.  The need for inflation required by the current Keynesian model is eliminated. Investment in new technologies would be encouraged by the lure of zero taxes until the industries were established, eliminating government subsidies and the harmful effects of wrong ones which most are.

        • DanielWatland

          @JohnHart  @NavyJR
           Why not just take some dedicated volunteers to get
          dead beat dads to get caught up on their child support and get their kids off the system. We all know it’s still easier for a man to land a job than a woman. So get started. The president would give you an award upon completion.

    • DanielWatland

      @JohnHart
       It’s the chosen few who have composed, “Right to Work for Less,” broke Unions and caused wages to decline; all of wich is needed to maintain our country’s tax base. Plus; they use slave labor overseas with an American Flag flying at their headquarters. I would demand they fly the old Conferate flag so they don’t discrase ours..

  • NavyJR

    @ Chestnut:Also part of the reason for having the state legislatures select the Senators was to KEEP the Senators beholden to their STATES, NOT the Federal government; another part of the protection of States’ rights.  By removing that and making it by popular vote, the Senators feel no allegiance to anyone generally, but the power they gain.

  • NavyJR

    @ksikkikhini:You’re right; unfortunately, they’re dragging the rest of us down WITH themselves; and we may not all deserve it!

  • Bryan Schlundt

    “The Republican Party does not need to fundamentally restructure; it needs to better articulate its message; looking to rising, conservative stars in the party, such as Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte, Mia Love, Mike Pence, Bobby Jindal and others to create a new conservative movement.”Frank, I’m afraid this is wishful thinking. This is what the establishment members of the GOP want us to keep on believing, because the longer we keep believing this, the longer they will continue to get our vote no matter how many times we get burned. Within the party there are the grassroots, which are Conservative (Tea Party, Liberty Movement, Evangelicals, Pro-life, etc.), but the establishment, the ones with the money and the power, do not share our values. I’ve watched the primary process closer this year than I ever have, and what I’ve observed is very troubling. The grassroots will have to work very hard and very diligently for years to come before we can even hope to see the party return to its Conservative roots. The other option is a hostile takeover, though I don’t know how that would play out. The GOP had 6 years, 2001-2007, to cut spending and shrink the government, yet both increased. Then we were offered candidates like McCain and Romney. No, the Republican Party does need fundamental restructuring or we will never see a successful conservative movement within our ranks.

  • Bryan Schlundt

    “The Republican Party does not need to fundamentally restructure; it needs to better articulate its message; looking to rising, conservative stars in the party, such as Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte, Mia Love, Mike Pence, Bobby Jindal and others to create a new conservative movement.
     
     
    “Frank, I’m afraid this is wishful thinking. This is what the establishment members of the GOP want us to keep on believing, because the longer we keep believing this, the longer they will continue to get our vote no matter how many times we get burned. Within the party there are the grassroots, which are Conservative (Tea Party, Liberty Movement, Evangelicals, Pro-life, etc.), but the establishment, the ones with the money and the power, do not share our values. I’ve watched the primary process closer this year than I ever have, and what I’ve observed is very troubling. The grassroots will have to work very hard and very diligently for years to come before we can even hope to see the party return to its Conservative roots. The other option is a hostile takeover, though I don’t know how that would play out. The GOP had 6 years, 2001-2007, to cut spending and shrink the government, yet both increased. Then we were offered candidates like McCain and Romney. No, the Republican Party does need fundamental restructuring or we will never see a successful conservative movement within our ranks.

    • DanielWatland

      @Bryan Schlundt
       Very good attitude. Only one thing; it was Romney on the top of the Trilateral Commission’s current page. Obama is not a member. For those not knowing, the trilateral Commission has 100 members; they are the wealthiest, most powerful and influential in the world.

  • Caveat Emptor

    Apart from Alexander Tyler’s dicta upon the cycle of tyranny, to freedom,to apathy and back to tyranny, have you also considered that over 50% of the American Voting Public have succumbed to the Pavlov’s Dog Syndrome ?
    When Obama Rings the Bell for Entitlements over half of the Electorate salivates for free financial gains and the women do something even more drastic and debasing, they virtually crave and adore him and shower him with the debased submission of their votes, that is the secret of his success. But eventually those taxpayers who actually have to pay our Moslem Pied Piper from Kenya, will simply cease their payments, their money will run out, and like his supporters they will simply cease to work – why should they ?  Then he will be recognized as the fraud that he is – the man who has asked for four more years to continue his failed policies of the past four years – his continued attempts to communize the U.S.A.  Those who have voted for him he regards as useful idiots just as Stalin viewed his Western
    apologizers.  Our recent voting options were also very limited – the choice between two adherents from  two differing sects, a possibly temporarily lapsed Moslem at best, and a former Mormon Missionary, neither of which semi-religions,  had anything to do with the concept of American Liberty in 1776.

    • panors77

      @Caveat Emptor    Thing is….this being the last American election, there won’t be any more need for “votes”, because it will be done away with.  BO is now in the WH for life unless somebody retains a firearm and takes him out.   Also something like the dollar or “currency” will also be abolished.  Everything will be coming from BO’s regime government.   Think “prison camp” now.

      • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

        @panors77  @Caveat Emptor
         I have to agree with you both, I pray that we are wrong but I have seen so many articles on this very same subject. I was talking to a friend yesterday and we where saying that we should make three different Nations out of America,the ones that what to follow thier Muslim Bother that was re elected , the Bible belt where we Christians believe in God and want to Bring back the Country as we have known for the last 236 years.Then those that have no use for God.

    • DanielWatland

      @Caveat Emptor
       President elect Obama got the most popular vote and the most electorit; that is constitutionally exceptable. If you have a burdin for welfare recipiants, why not get up from your computer chair and go on a search for all the dead beat fathers not paying support. Welfare we be cut by at least 50% if you can convince them they should pay we don’t have to. Can you imagine the government savings?

  • Bimbam

    WHY YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID.  VERY AFRAID!
     
    If they can put in an illegal, unqualified, unvetted negro with treasonous behavior, not once, BUT TWICE!  Do you not think they will hesitate to come for your guns?
     
    Create a false flag operation to suspend the Constitution and declare martial ?  Then let me tell you, you deserve all of the above!

    • DanielWatland

      Are you a Prophet?

  • MCS

    We must change Republican Congressional Leadership in both the House and Senate. This Nation needs BOLD Leadership in both Houses. Boehner and McConnell are very weak at best, and are just Good Ole Boys at the top of the Political Club. This must change and change immediately.
    Republicans in the House must draw a line in the sand and inform Obama that if he wants anything passed in the House he must communicate, negotiate, and demonstrate a willingness to compromise with Republicans. Republications must identify immediately those things that Obama has implemented that must be cancelled, modified, or removed from his agenda if he want cooperation. Republicans must Demand Obama cease his circumventing the legislative process or face severe consequences. These statements must be addressed to Obama in writing and at the same time released to We the People. All Members of Congress have forgotten, they work for us.  I would like to see all Republican/Conservative Organizations involved in the election processes on board with this idea, or a similar idea.

    • chamuiel

      I would like to see it also, but it is not going to happen.

    • panors77

      Don’t you guys get it??   BO will be dismantling congress soon.  There won’t BE any Republican party.  This is now the last “election”, BO will be in the WH for life.   It’s over!!!

      • DanielWatland

        @panors77
             Leave the FOX network and at least look at two other sources. FOX is causing trouble on a treasonous and seditious level for Americans. I hope people in the near future will realize how many products were developed coming from the space program years and have a vision like JFK. Education and new development in solar is our future. Again, Republicans fear this because of their large investments in oil. This only means one of their yachts will have to go without gas until they reinvest in solar themselves.

    • DanielWatland

      You have a good thought process, but the Obama administration offers the same basic health insurance as I have now. I’m a vet with minor injury’s service related. We need a healthy nation to be productive and the proposed national health care is bare essentials. The fear Republicans have, is losing heavy health care investments they currently make a very, very good living off. It means having a 6 foot wall around their mansions rather than an 8 foot. Again, Republicans have exaggerated Obama’s plan because of the losses their people will incur. Believe me; Republicans will not go hungry in this country. The layoffs their health care companies have, will be offset by government jobs and the advancement into solar energy. Education and new jobs in different fields is what our future is all about in order for us to take the lead back.
      .      None of us want to interfere with the free enterprise system, but we are left with no other choice. All we need is genuine and fair management for all Americans. If the current health care trend does not stop, every American will be bankrupt, except the health care companies, of course.

  • NavyJR

    @Mudguy: The simple answer is that they BELIEVE the Dems’ lies that they’re “helping” them with the handouts and social programs; some few are wise enough to see through that to the enslavement of those very programs.  Check out some of Thomas Sowell’s or Walter Williams’ columns .  They’re on Town Hall, Jewish Review, American Thinker, and a number of other sites.  Very wise men, and both black.

    • DanielWatland

      @NavyJR
       In a way an XO and a plantation owner from 1865 are the same. Today the highest paid XO in the history of the U.S. works for Health Insurance. When these people corner the market on increasing life expectancy, at the same time life is of high demand, it’s economics 101. The major problem here, is that health care insurance doubles on average every 10 years. Democrats would not be pushing for government funded health care, if the XO’s greed could be controled.

  • R Young

    Where do we go from here?  We go exactly where we are supposed to go Over the Cliff and into the Abyss, where else!

    • DanielWatland

      You are very negative and likely to be a FOX news follower. The Obama plan was very well spelled out during the presidential debates. It’s not going to happen overnight, but once our education is redirected into solar energy we will have a shot at taking the leas again. Oil alone has failed our nation and we desperately need another basket of eggs in  Wall Street with a new group of financial leaders with integrity and humanitarians to bring wages back up so enough taxes will be taken out to reverse this “Right to work for less short coming.”

      • chamuiel

        @DanielWatland Sorry Danny Boy I don’t have cable. I do not watch Fox News, nor MSNBC. I manage to think just fine for myself.
         
         
        Obama gives tax payer money to his wealthy contributors so they can invest in failing Green Companies. As far as Solar and windmills ever supplanting oil, Green power sources can account for perhaps 10%  of our energy needs.
         
        Are you volunteering to be one of the 90% who do without energy, lights, water, food, transportation, AC, in the Summer, and heating in the winter? If you are I can direct you where to go to sign up. Also no medications, nor bikes. Many prescription drugs and bike tires are made from petroleum products. Foods move to Supermarkets on trucks.
         
        I don’t think that wind mill is going to stop the pain you are expierencing from your tooth extraction.
         
        Oil can and does do that.
         
        Oh, yes please stop typing on your keyboard, it takes petroleum product to produce that keyboard. I don’t think solar or marsh grass biofuels will do it.
         
        As I said before Daniel, when you grow up, and re realistic, please come back and join the conversation.
         
        Of course you are probably one of those who can grow everything you need, that is if the Federal Government lets you.

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel
          You are a typical Republican that has been blinded from transcending into a new and better future. Who would have known about all the different glues coming out of the space program while NASA needed glue to hold their reentry tiles? Or the improvements in space age aluminum. You walk around in your own imagination believing in only yourself. And, yes I am experimenting with solar panels and batteries to light my house. By the way, you should know, Afghanistan has loads of deposits needed for batteries.

        • mudguy

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel Did you get Obama to fund to your experiments? So who shut down NASA? And what is your better future, more taxes and forcing you buy insurance. To have smaller Government, lower taxes and a balanced  budget. That what a typical Republican is and to take responsibility for one actions and not blame others.  if you don’t agree with that then you are a typical tax and spend liberal and want spend other peoples money.

  • larrylunts

    You people are certifiable. The fact is that George W. Bush took us over the cliff, with financial deregulation and tax cuts for billionaires, failing to protect us during 9/11, and two unfunded wars. Obama brought us back from the brink, with policies that halted the continuing loss of jobs, saved the auto industry, re-regulated financial institutions, ended discrimination against gay soldiers, instituted important healthcare reforms, and actually killed bin Laden, the mastermind of 9/11. Where do we go from here? I suggest we stop listening to the purveyors of hate on FOX NEWS and Rush Limbaugh and Mitch McConnell and actually work together with our President, like adults, to restore our country as the pre-eminent economic power on Earth. Barack Obama is our President, elected by the people. You may disagree with him, as their are two schools of thought are how human beings should treat each other. One is that we are all in this together, and that it is better for all when everybody prospers. This is the Obama way, and it is also the morality espoused by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. Then there is the theory that it’s a dog-eat-dog world, where nobody has any responsibility towards any other human being. This is the Koch Brothers way, and that of their lapdogs in the Republican Party. The American people have made their choice. I suggest that you respect it. To do any less would be treasonous.

    • chamuiel

      @larrylunts So, obama protected you through Hurricane Sandy, I take it.  Who are you to tell me what is and what is not treasonous? Are you now a certified member of the thought police?
       
       
      Who has prospered under obama? Are you also delusional?

      • DanielWatland

        @chamuiel  @larrylunts
         name calling is a sign of defeat and nearly always results in a loss during debate. Who has prospered? When you can answer that question, lets take it away and apply it to our national debt.

        • chamuiel

          @DanielWatland  @larrylunts  I did not call names. I asked a question, and I will still ask it, who is Larrylunts that he thinks he has the right to tell me what is treasonsous and what is not? The only way I can see he has the right to ask that question is if he is delusional, and believes he has the right to do so.

        • chamuiel

          @DanielWatland  @larrylunts  Daniel, I did not realize we were debating. When you get a few years of expierence on you, come back and jhoin in. From the looks of your picyure, I think you have a few years to go before one can consider you as experienced.

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel  @larrylunts
           We have a representative form of government, elected by and for the people. Speaking out against our government to cause a disruption is sedition. Organizing against it is treason. Like it or not, we have a government with checks and balances.

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel  @larrylunts
          I think that’s what they call prejudice.

        • Brabbie2002

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @larrylunts   I am not name calling – I am stating a fact.   Get into your history books and read how Hitler took over Germany…odumbass is following suit and all you gimmes are following him like the ignorant Germans did Hitler!   Oooh, odumbass is the great messiah – He will give us our every whim – of course, we are going to have to kill all the Christians to get our whims, but so what – that is what our messiah wants…him and his muslim brotherfhood!

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @larrylunts  Except for GOD we as Christians may as well admit “defeat” (BUT WE DO HAVE GOD.) That is what the anti-GOD government has done to us

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @larrylunts 
          II do realize they are writing checks by t trillion but when did the start balancing them? Do the balance them?? Do the even have a clue??

        • Smilee

          @Brabbie2002  @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @larrylunts That is true in your mixed up little mind but not in reality

    • panors77

      @larrylunts  Soooooo……..doubling or tripling the deficet is better how?     You are truly an obamabot and have swallowed the MSM koolaid.  How dare you compare  BO with Jesus Christ?? OMG???    BO didn’t “save” the auto industry….he “took over” a failing auto company that now is owned by the government.   So you support that?  What other companies or industries should BO’s regime take over?    Yes….there’s definitely TWO schools of thought. Our founding fathers and the constitution ratifying freedom for all and BO’s school that comes from karl marx, lennin, stalin, hitler che, castro that renders the “proletariate” as property of the state.  I’ll take Jefferson over your flawed marx any day.   BO and your ilk are therefore NOT trying to restore the USA but you are here to DESTROY it and change it into a communist/socialist USSA psuedo utopia that you imagine in your little peabrains.     BO now has the blood of 4 innocent people that he refused to send help to in Bengazzi, while he watched in real time.  You voted for and support a murderer!!

      • chamuiel

        @panors77  @larrylunts B.O. also has the blood of a Border patrol officer, and several Mexican citizens on his hands from the Fast and Furious guns that he and Holder let walk into Mexico.

        • panors77

          @chamuiel  @larrylunts   And THAT blood should fall under “crimes and misdemeanors”  aloned warranting impeachment and removal from office.

      • DanielWatland

        @panors77  @larrylunts
         So corporate americans taking work overseas to take advantage of inhumane treatment of slaves while flying an American flag is correct in your eyes? Yes; slavory is still legal in many country’s. Have you ever thought about why UNION’s came into power and established Labor Law? Why not try working for a week and give back to your employer everything Unions fought and died for in our American history.

        • chamuiel

          @DanielWatland  @panors77  @larrylunts  Unions? Youy mean Communists don’t you. The early unions were all Communists.
           
           
          As far as taking jobs overseas both sides do it. A businessman is not in Business to provide you with a job and benefits. He/she is in Business to make a product that they can sell and at the lowest manufacturing and wage costs. To expect anything else is ludicrous. If I owned a business (which I don’t) and I had a choice of staying in the U.S. and paying huge inflated union salaries and benefits, or taking my Business over seas where there is lower labor costs, I would take it over seas. Slavery has nothing to do with it, Daniel.
           
           
          If you want to talk about taking jobs overseas, why don’t you discuss how Obam’s Good buddy Jeffery Immelt of G.E. once shipped the entire X ray machine division over seas with the resulting loss of 2.500 jobs? My point is both sides do it, and just because you might belong to a union, does not guarantee you will keep your job, nor should it.
           
           
          Unions were probably beneficial at first, but now Unions and their Union Bosses have priced them selves out of the job market, have contributed beyond a shadow of a doubt to jobs being shipped over seas to other countries. Most Unions I have been unfortunate enough to be around made way too much money for what they actually did, and took way too many union mandated breaks.

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts
           The early Unions and current Unions are humanitarians who battle poverty and promote equality and justice. Guaranteed work and the best labor in the world.

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts
          My employer doubled his income off our labor. A union cannot enter into a contractual agreement that causes a business to go bankrupt. Without the business everyone suffer the consequences. As a journeyman machinist and retired shop steward, I can honestly say, we were the most underpaid labor group of all; for what we needed to know. I trained in three bosses so they could manage my work. My union built the space shuttle. Not because of management, but in spite of management.

        • Emmess

          @DanielWatland    @panors77  @larrylunts From what I see, they are great at feathering their own nests. When coal miners were being abused by mine owners, they had a true reason for existing. But the day of the Capitalist is over. Today we have entrepreneurs and corporations with shareholders who represent, mainly, the middle class. The J.D. Rockefeller of today is not the cigar-smoking tycoon of the past. He’s a Bill Gates type with social responsibility or, at least enough to satisfy his public relations department. Stephen Jobs probably represents the last of the egomaniacal industrialists.

        • Sharkaen

          @chamuiel  @DanielWatland  @panors77  @larrylunts The first unions were not communists.  Where the hell did you come up with that line of bull?

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @panors77  @larrylunts  I honestly believe the Union did good in the beginning. Like most any good thing it did not take them long to become one of the most corrupt organization in all America.

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts  I think the unions object today is to line their own pockets. Workers that they have blinded with promises, fight bitterly to get workers a .25 cent raise and in six months union dues to be paid will be as much as the increase they will get in the entire year. If you think the union will not get paid
          “big time” you are in delusion. The final result, the company will raise the prices of their product to more than enough to cover the cost of the raises. Not only do the employees pay that price but every body who use that product, world wide, pay that price. There is the answer  to what has has happened to our economy in great part..

        • Smilee

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts Daniel, one of a few on here who actually understand Unions and how they really work, underpaid workers drag the economy down as they no longer have the money to keep up demand to keep the economy growing and that is what is currently very bad.

        • panors77

          @DanielWatland  @larrylunts    Corporate Americans were FORCED by the dem controlled congress of 2006 to take it overseas due to the dems over regulation and taxation.     Unions came into power via the mafia and communists leadership.    Mafia STILL controls the unions.  Heck…..ok….my local Musicians Union was/is controlled by Disney so ok I’ll give you that one. LOL.

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @panors77 @larrylunts Yup…Larry has been drinking some spiked Cool-Aid. Larry, some of us pay about $800.00 a month for health insurance. Under BO plan, employers will not be able to offer healthcare. I’m hearing we will be taxed on our benefits. Of course that hasn’t been let out of the bag yet. We will be forced into government care. Ever know anyone who had Medicaid? Bare minimal. My advice is that you do not get seriously sick.
        The rates are already increasing and his plan hasn’t kicked in yet. The future is not looking good Larry! BTW… Treason is going to Las Vegas while your embassy is under attack.

        • DanielWatland

          @Kissitgoodbye  @panors77  @larrylunts
           Wait another 7 years and your $800 will be $1600. Normally doubles ever 10-12 years, but now projected in 7. The trend is historic, you can’t change facts. So who’s side are you on? Republican controled health care? Your bringing a rope to your own hanging.

        • panors77

          @Kissitgoodbye  @panors77  @larrylunts   Exactly!!  Treason is also refusing help while watching the event unfold in real time.

    • panors77

      @larrylunts  and again….you’re blaming Bush for this last 4 years of reckless BO spending  is uncontionable.

      • DanielWatland

        @panors77  @larrylunts
         Bush took a giant step by supporting the goals of the trilateral commission.

        • chamuiel

          @DanielWatland  @panors77  @larrylunts , O.K. union boy blame Hurrican Sandy on Bush. That is next is it not?

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts
          If you look at a satellite picture, Greenland has lost 3/4 of its glaciers, the north pole over half. Global warming caused Sandy. If you don’t believe in global warming, would you like to explain to me how you refreeze the glaciers once there gone?

        • Emmess

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts What a simplistic set of facts! There are some who say Sandy was divine retribution for the evils of the U.S. political system and punishment for what Americans were about to do; re-elect the worst president since WWII. There is a bible passage where God promises Abraham that those who bless Israel will be blessed and he who curses Israel will be cursed. If you ignore the propaganda and look at history, America has betrayed Israel. Interesting note that Sandy barely effected Canada, the only country in the world that has an avowedly pro-Israel government and did not suffer from a recession.

        • Sharkaen

          @Emmess  @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @panors77  @larrylunts   What a crock, you Bible spouters are the worst.  Lets not blame it on what is really causing the problem, throw God in there and blame it on someone you hate.  If Jesus Christ was alive now, then the 1% would be on his list of people who would be going to hell.  And as far as Israel, look at the history of how they became a country and you will see that it goes against the teachings of the Bible that you people continue to try to use against others.

        • panors77

          @Emmess  @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @larrylunts   Naaaaa……not me.  If many dems want to blame Bush for causing/aiming  Katrina at blacks in New Orleans using HAARP, then why not blame BO for Sandy aiming it at white voters in New Jersey?    Just saying……heh.

        • panors77

          @Sharkaen  @Emmess  @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @larrylunts   I don’t think I spouted any Bible but YOU communists are really the worst.  Please get a clue that marx was wrong??   Actually, when you look at how Israel became a nation in 1948,  THAT event fullfilled a few thousand year old Biblical prophecy.  You can’t escape that one.

      • DanielWatland

        @panors77  @larrylunts
        Not Bush, but a Republican controlled house preventing better education and advancing solar. The Republicans I blame for stalling on medicine for seniors, the needy and basically having screwed up priorities.

        • panors77

          @DanielWatland  @larrylunts    The dems took over the whole congress during Bush in 2006.

      • Sharkaen

        @panors77  @larrylunts If Obama didn’t spend what he did then you would be in a soup line right now, because The republicans don’t care about you as much as you think.  They are only doing what is good for them and their rich ilk.  If you are not upper crust then you don’t exist in their mind..  You are just another low paid slave so they can earn their millions while you try to survive and the few thousand that they are forced to pay.  And not by choice.

        • TNSue

          @Sharkaen  @panors77  @larrylunts
           From the words of ,’Walter’…D.A.

        • panors77

          @Sharkaen  @larrylunts   THIS is the biggest crock!!  Why did BO choose only GM??    Why didn’t he bail out Ford or other car companies?  Probably because they didn’t need bailing out and had a better business plan to stay alive than GM?   Point is…..GM should’ve been allowed to go through a reorganizational bankrupsty like any other business.  Which other “businesses” does BO now want to governmentally control?    I’d rather be a low paid slave in a free market than a forced slave under a communist regime that YOU seem to want.

      • Evermyrtle

        @panors77  @larrylunts He blamed Bush for all the mistakes made in the last four years, who do you suppose he will blame for the mistakes for the nest four years? I am thinking nobody will be allowed to protest any mistake, he will be “THE KING”as described in Daniel 11:36-37.

        • panors77

          @Evermyrtle  @larrylunts  BO is going to keep blaming Bush through his 3rd or 4th term until it doesn’t work anymore on the proletariate.

    • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

      @larrylunts
       I cannot believe what I have just read, Obama did not bring us back from know where, unemployment is the highest it has been since the depression, and the morality of this Nation has gone so far from what Jesus and the Bible tells us, No SIR Obama has done more to destroy our Country than any President in the History of America. He has more than double the deficit, and you are still blaming Bush, he is not the one that him and his party what the American people to rely on the Government for their food and other entitlements, and a health care system that has made health insurance premiums go up and we have not seen what all Obama care is yet to come, no Obama has tried his best to make it harder for a person to excel in a business, and the American Dream of becoming a successful person, ignored the Constitution by passing Laws without going through the Congress and Senate, I could go on and on, I will say that a lot of people had better wake up, and look back in History, the Empires that have fallen and the cause of them to fail, America is heading down the same road. And I reset your statment the Obama way there is no way that Jesus Christ espoused the Morals of tax payers money killing babies and same sex marriage. One thing you are right on is there are two roads, Obama way to a Socialist Nation, or they way that has Made America the Greatest Nation in the world, our belief in God, and you work hard to become successful, the reason our for Fathers wrote the Constitution was to protect the people from the Government.
      May we all renew our Faith in God and repeat as a Nation. Then we might be able to work together to bring back this Great Nation as we have known for the last 236 years.

      • DanielWatland

        @walt1976  @larrylunts
        Are you old enough to remember JFK? “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” Just because a person is against abortion, doesn’t make them prolife. The Bible clearly tells us to obey the magistrates; Obama is president because that is who “He” wanted as president.

        • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

          @DanielWatland  @larrylunts
           Remember the Israelite’s that killed all the baby boys and how God Judge them and punished them, no the Bible does not tell us to kill Gods Greation.

        • DanielWatland

          @walt1976  @larrylunts
          Just because your are against abortion doesn’t mean your pro life.

      • chamuiel

        @walt1976  But these fools have somehow gotten this into their heads and somehow they even manage to believe it. It is not just that they are lying, they actually believe these things to be true and it was always Bush’s fault of course.

        • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

          @chamuiel
           You are so right they and Obama are good at blaming everyone else, but themselves.

        • DanielWatland

          @chamuiel  @walt1976
           I don’t think anyone has ever blamed Bush for all this mess, Bush was a President that caused it to excell. The cause began with the global market and us having 4 decades of prosperity with the low prices of foreign products. The average house in 1965 was 650 square feet. The average size in 2007 was 1200. Take away 1/2 of the hourly wage and most people go bankrupt or are put on a deregulated loan that gives a youhg couple a never ending financial obligation. Right to work for less is one of yours too

        • Sharkaen

          @chamuiel  @walt1976 You need to turn that comment right back on your self.  You seem to have your head in the sand, If you can’t face up to the facts that History will show how awful Bush was as a President.

        • panors77

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @walt1976   BO DID blame Bush for all this mess.  It was and still IS his main mantra in his campaign, especially the first one.

    • SeanSinnFein

      @larrylunts
       You are ALMOST too delusional to respond to….but for the benefit of my brothers in arms, let me ignore your spelling and grammar, and set one fact straight…Your BO did NOT kill Bin Laden. He was not there, the intelligence that led to his death came from our men in uniform that Pres.Bush (who has a certifiable birth certificate) put on the ground, and the men who killed him were put there by Pres.Bush. If you told these Seals or any active US Marine or active military that it was BO who killed BinLaden, I trust they would gut you like a fish.

      • DanielWatland

        @SeanSinnFein  @larrylunts
         You remind me of myself when I was a young man and growing into a teenager with the discovery of my first hair under my arm. I began walking on my toes and knew everything. Since then I served my country during Viet Nam and learned how to distinguish between an us and a them. The brass would drop 40 guys off beyond the enemy and  then, walk back 20 miles through the jungle. When coming under fire, it was radioed in so the brass could stick another pin in the map while in their safe location. I do not respect the brass to this day because of it and I don’t like when an XO makes 100 times more than me when my work pays him. One day you will see there is really no difference between a grunt and a labor worker in a Union fighting for equality.

    • dr faith

      @larrylunts Do you remember the first WTC bombing? Was anything done to find/ prosecute the offenders? Remember the bombing of the Cole? Was anything done about that? That was under Clinton who was too busy getting Lewinskis to care. To compound the problem he cut funding to intelligence. A wise man would think after two terrorist attacks in a six year period that we needed beefed up intelligence. Oh, I forgot we are talking about Clinton. Shame on you for blaming President Bush for not protecting us? The sketchy intel we did get suggested Hussein had WMDs. Remember the UN weapons inspectors he wouldn’t let in? The Iraq war did get rid of a horrible genocidal dictator. But Obama left abruptly; leaving a peacekeeping force might have kept al Qaeda from doubling in Iraq as it has since Obama took office. Actually al Qaeda is widespread, when Pres. Bush left office it was in two countries. I was horrified after 9/11/12 when our embassies around the Middle East and Asia were attacked by radical Muslims, the visions of them burning and desecrating our flag. These embassies are American soil, yet these hate crimes continued all blamed by the buffoons Obama and Clinton on a Pythonesque video.
      How can you can say Obama halted job loss, when unemployment is higher now than when he took office? He didn’t save the auto industry. Bush signed the first bailout to GM. He didn’t kill bin laden, the Seals did. Jesus said though shall not kill. He wouldn’t approve of abortions, late term abortions, partial birth abortion, same sex marriage. Wasn’t there something in the Bible about if you don’t work you don’t eat? You misstate Obama’s world. It is about big government controlling every aspect of your life. It is a small business being taxed out of existence because a Healthcare mandate most people didn’t want is being forced down their throats. It is socialism.

    • Brabbie2002

      @larrylunts Then treason it is…I believe that is how this country was started originally, or are you a king odumbass supporter?

    • mudguy

      @larrylunts You need to check history. When was the most money collected by the government ? When taxes were cut by Reagan and Bush. When will you people that like blame Bush  take some of the blame. Barney had control of Freddy and Fanny. Democrats controlled Congress. No can be spent with out Congresses approval unless you are Obama then you by pass Congress. No country can spend or tax their way out of debt not even Obama. Obama’s way is to take God out of their platform and God gets booed whenGod is put back in.And to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.  Navy Seals got Bin Laden not Obama. Wonder when people like you will understand the principles that what ever you tax you get less of what you are taxing, the you tax the more you get and “Someday you WILL run out of other peoples MONEY” I just hope our country will survive  the next four years. I will respect the office but I can’t respect him when he lies to the American People.

  • JONDARMES

    I don’t know about the rest of you good citizens but I’m going to Tulsa, the biggest gunshow in this world, 11.5 acres under roof, and I’m going to convert some of my investment capitol into the next big thing, Heavy Metals. You know, Gold, Silver, Lead, Brass and Copper.

    • DanielWatland

      @JONDARMES
       Who took our gold and silver in 1964?

      • Evermyrtle

        @DanielWatland  @JONDARMES  Nobody! I didn’t have any, not even a golden ring. Anyhow the bible says in the end we will casting the gold and silver into the street, it will do us no good, in that day! Especially those who refuse the mark in our right hand or in our foreheads. They are preparing the mark (cell) to be placed beneath the skin of in the right hand, right now.. Without it we will not be able to buy or to sell. They think they will have us (Christians) in their clutches.

    • Bogator

      @JONDARMES Affirmative!

  • Man Mountain Mike

    Before the foundations of this world, God granted mankind “Agency” . . . . . both sides of the isle have exercised their agency . . . . .

    • chamuiel

      @Man Mountain Mike And both sides say GOD is on their side. Who is correct?

      • panors77

        @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike     Noooooo???    One side ousted God remember?

        • chamuiel

          @panors77  @Man Mountain Mike I saw individual Democrats saying God had answered their prayers and had let obama be re elected.  I think we are right. I believe we are right and that God is on our side, but if you look at it from their point of view God answered their prayers and obama was re elected. They do believe that God is on their side.

        • RivahMitch

          @chamuiel  @panors77  @Man Mountain Mike Actually, their god answered Jeremiah Wright’s curse… and the form of our damnation is Obama.

        • panors77

          @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike   I was just saying that “officially” the dem party ousted God from their convention and their party.

      • DanielWatland

        @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike
         The side having scripture to support it.

        • deebar

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike Daniel , You’re just not making any sense . I have no love loss for the Republicans and haven’t been one for a few decades and was a Democrat before that . Both are rotten to the core but with the Republicans you at least have a chance to succeed . I’ve owned in total 4 business’s and almost went bankrupt in one because of the Democrats . Learn the facts and come back later and state your opinion .
          Both parties can be accused of fraud , of cheating and graft but nothing comes close to this idiot .

        • DanielWatland

          @deebar  @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike
          On the most part; you do not succeed because of a political party, but in spite of them. So who and what was it causing your democratic caused business failior?

        • deebar

          @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike  Daniel , What ??????? How about 21 % interest rates ! You have absolutely no idea and I had almost 50 years in the business world . How many years have you had in making payroll ? How many years have you even paid tax’s ?
          You are right in one respect and that I succeeded in spite of Govt . And I sold my house to start my business , my own money . Not only that , I worked 18 and 20 hours a day just so I could make payroll . Just by saying ” on the most part ” shows me you have no clue .
          When Reagan took over my income almost doubled and I hired 3 more people .
          You succeed when your business has a friendly atmosphere from Govt. It was under Carter , the 2nd worst president , our present being the worst ever for business . You have no talking points or knowledge so stop with the garbage .

        • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

          @deebar  @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike
           deebar you are so right, if we look back in History all of us in business has none better with less Govt, and I thought Carter was the worst President until now. One thing Romney wanted to do was to us the natural resources that God has given us, how many jobs would that create, plenty, plus build the Keystone pipe line. Obama has stated that he will bankrupt the coal industry, and the fossil fuels, we did to use them to bring jobs until a person or a company comes up with another way of power, the Govt will not be the one to invent this. Until we bring God back into this Nation and the Morels of our Country change this great Nation will not come back, but for all of us that believe in Christ as our Savior God has promised us he will take care of his Children.
          May God Bless us all.

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @deebar  @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike  I can’t see any progress with or without either party.  We have been sold out!!

        • Smilee

          @deebar  @DanielWatland  @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike deebar, when Reagan took over he made it possible for you to lower wages and then you could make more money and employ more underpaid workers, in other words more work for less money and more money for you.  Reagan made the earned income credit (wage subsidy) to what it is today and made the taxpayers make up the different.. No wonder you liked Reagan he made it possible for you to indirectly get money from the taxpayers for your own, it is commonly referred to as corporate welfare but it also is extended to all businesses that hire underpaid workers.

        • chamuiel

          @DanielWatland  @Man Mountain Mike Well, that can’t be the Democrats. They rejected God, remember.

        • chamuiel

          @deebar  @DanielWatland  @Man Mountain Mike 
           
          Obama? or Daniel Watland? Your point is confusing as well as your post. It seems you cannot makeup your mind as to what you are.

      • Don39

        @chamuiel  @Man Mountain Mike The only thing that God has for the leftist progressive damnocrat party of amorality is pity and hope for the enlightenment of the individual soul, same goes for the more righteous Republican Party even with it more righteous support of moral issues and stance against abortion, etc.

    • SeanSinnFein

      @Man Mountain Mike
       Aisle, not isle…and too much fraud took place, including lack of a proper birth certificate at an EXISTING hospital for this election to have real meaning…Enough crimes against Americans has taken place for our military to arrest this Commander for Treason against our countrymen and our Constitution.

  • Kissitgoodbye

    Larry, 0-0=0. History does tend to repeat itself… But I forgot we don’t teach history in our schools anymore. Ditto for simple arithmetic . When will you believe we are in financial distress in this country? Tax the rich all you want. Who do you think does the hiring and investing? It still will not cover the spending which has doubled in four years what Bush spent in eight. Sooner rather than later, the pot runs dry.

    • DanielWatland

      @Kissitgoodbye
       In a global economy, do our wages go up?

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @DanielWatland I wouldn’t bet the farm on it Daniel. OH WAIT… What farm?

        • DanielWatland

          @Kissitgoodbye  @DanielWatland
           Exactly kissitgoodbye, welcome to the Democratic party.

        • DanielWatland

          @Kissitgoodbye  @DanielWatland

        • Kissitgoodbye

          @DanielWatland Both Dems and GOP are heading towards global governance . The UN has insinuated itself into gun control, education via Unesco, and who wanted them to monitor our elections? HMMM… That would be BO. Just what you want in a “free election” a dictator telling us how to vote! I go with the lesser of two evils. I think people should be able to make their own decisions over their destiny.

        • Don39

          @DanielWatland  @Kissitgoodbye Yes, you are stoned.

      • Evermyrtle

        @DanielWatland  @Kissitgoodbye  Hard question to answer in a Christian way!!

      • Don39

        @DanielWatland  @Kissitgoodbye Are you stoned? On the job? I hear that is typical on union jobs.

  • DanielWatland

    Most if not all making God comments have no scriptual foundation for it.

    • chamuiel

      @DanielWatland So, you are not only Communist, Union, but also Aeithist?

    • Don39

      @DanielWatland How would you know?

  • DanielWatland

    When our wages go up, do we buy more, do we pay more local taxes, more social security, federal and state taxes?

    • Evermyrtle

      @DanielWatland  Of course not, most of America’s people can not figure that if wages go up the price of everything the buy or hire will go up, also. Evidently if they did go to school they did not learn much. They should be able to figure if it cost more to produce. The price of the product can do nothing but go up to meet the cost of producing.
       
      OH! They are already rich and want to get richer? Well think about is this not exactly what we are doing, trying to get paid more for doing the same job???

    • chamuiel

      @DanielWatland Just for you union boy, since you do not know thee history of the very thing you love:
       
       
      Communists played a part in Unions.
       
      Most unions were started and heavily influenced by Communists. It is all over the internet. I cannot believe you do not know nor understand the very beginning of Unions by Communist. They were even involved with The Auto workers union. The very word worker unions brings pictures of Communists to mind. Surely you are not that uneducated. Check the internet for you education on unions.,

      • panors77

        @chamuiel  @DanielWatland   Yep……and don’t forget the mob’s controlling influence also.   Why is it that union people still want to trust the communists and the mob?

    • Don39

      @DanielWatland No stupid, when wages and any other cost of production goes up, the cost is passed on to the consumer which means there is no change but inflation.Only leftist lack the sense to see that in the end the consumer pays EVERYTHING and the balance remains the same. The only way cost goes down is through reduced demand and improved production/reduced cost input. Unions love stooges like you!

  • Emmess

    I’m going to suggest something very subversive. If it’s true that the Republican Party is dead and that the Democratic Party can not be defeated, it is imperative that conservative activists “infiltrate” the Democratic Party and make it conform to your political ideas. This was done in Canada, my country, when the Reform Party took over the Progressive Conservative Party from within. The result is the renaming of the party to Conservative Party and the election of Stephen Harper as Prime Minister. Right now, in Israel, the ruling Likud Party is going through a similar change with conservatives/nationalists working from within to take the party to the right (don’t be fooled by the left wing press’ calling Likud “right wing”). Use the judo concept. If you come up against a resisting force, use that force to take it down. If the Republican Party is dead, take over the Democrats and bend the party to your philosophy. It’s not unlike what the Tea Party has been attempting with the Republicans.

    • deebar

      @Emmess , I’m not convinced that is the right course . I truly believe we need another party and besides if I had to be around a bunch of dems I’d be convicted of something that could give me life .

  • Save this Nation

    Marco Rubio? It is my opinion that he has failed miserably. I really don’t recall seeing him being very outspoken about freedom and trying to get Latinos educated to reality. I’m not speaking just for Florida but for the rest of the country. He had the opportunity to do this and just played the game like a good little minion. I now personally beleive that he just wants to be one one of the operatives that serves the machine. He sold himself and ourselves out. Most of the latino population just seems to be for sale and easily sold. Most of what I heard from my Latino brothers during the election was that “Obama helped us with things for free that the rich Americans need to pay for”. Latinos just refuse to beleive that nothing is for free. Latinos didn’t want to hear it and the majority of the latino community was just fine with letting other people pay for their things regardless of whether or not they actually needed help. We latinos vote for communists and socialist dictatorships into our countries and then we come to the USA and think that if we do it here, it might be different or we just keep on tryint to freeload off of others.
     
    The game is rigged and we as Latinos shouldn’t complain when we are cast back into bondage giving up our children to the government and daughters into prostitution. We will get what we asked for and there won’t be any country to run to for more free junk.
     
    The other issue that nobody is talking about is the integrity of the voting machines and the voting system. There is no integrity. We sit there every election night glued to the television and let the Hollywood production feed us what they want and most of us beleive what we are told is fact regardless of the blatant election fraud. It’s all garbage.
     
    Prepare to lick the boots of your masters and Hale to Obama Phone!!

    • Evermyrtle

      @Save this Nation   Rubio did not ride in that ship, alone. That ship was so overloaded that it sank out in the middle of the ocean and riders were lost. Can’t you tell by the absence of any output for Conservative Christians.?

      • Save this Nation

        @Evermyrtle
         I do understand your point clearly but if you read up through the other comments above you will see my statement about the election being rigged from the beginning. The main point that I was trying to close with relates the the fact the whole system is a rigged Hollywood production. What conservative christians (which I am also) need to realize as that they need to wake up to reality. The two party system is a scam that always ends up with the same garbage being served to us.

    • Mixture V ranks

      @Save this Nation You’ve got this right.  It is basically a question of “what can I get for free?” when nothing in this world is for free. 
       
      And you’re right about the general corruption in Latin countries.  It was evidently standard practice for elementary school students to bribe teachers to raise their grades, when they didn’t do the necessary work.  Some even tried it in the Los Angeles Unified School District, but didn’t get away with it!  That behavior seems to carry over into everything they do. 
       
      Obama will help them alright, right into slavery to him and his followers.  They will come to regret it.

  • Mike3591

    Good luck convincing the takers to change their ways. It is a lifestyle for them and has become so ingrained in them, they know nothing else. They don’t want to improve themselves. Education is the way to improve. They had the same opportunity to improve, but instead, many of them don’t even graduate from high school. I wasn’t handed anything on a sliver platter. I work full time and went to college full time. The takers won’t work and choose not to get educated.

  • Straightline

    I was barely making it in my business with Obama at the helm. My 2 employees will now have to find something else. For the sake of my family, I am closing up and becoming a taker while there is a little left to take. But promise to still subvert this neo-communist administration at every chance.

  • Mike3591

    Christians have an obligation to the poor? How about the poor take responsibility for some their own problems.

    • Straightline

      @Mike3591 Christians have always helped the poor. They were mandated by Christ to do so and nobody does it better than Christians.
       
      However this government, especially this administration and it’s sycophant idiots… does not represent Christ or Christians in any fathomable way. Jesus had little to nothing to do with government.  Uh except when government and it’s sycophants murdered him.
       
      Eugenics, infanticide and man worship are the only hallmark of today’s democrat party. They have killed untold millions. America has obviously  turned it’s back on God  and it is no wonder he  allowed this Caesar wannabee to remain in power

    • Smilee

      @Mike3591 Pay them a living wage and almost all of them  do not set their own wages but are forced to accept what their employers want to give them,,  thus so many more on food stamps and wage subsidies and medicaid etc It is simple arithmetic.  They do not pay income taxes because for the past thirty years their wages went down so they no longer make enough to be required to pay income taxes. Those of us old enough remember when almost all made enough to pay taxes and we did, no longer is that true The poor cannot pay taxes until employers take responsibility and pay them a living wage

      • Don39

        @Smilee  @Mike3591 Your total ignorance of economics is astounding. You were evidently educated in economics at the same place your socialist idol was.

      • Don39

        @Smilee  @Mike3591 Your ignorance of simple economics is astouding and is apparently from the same source as that of your idol and socialist leader,Obama. Let us watch your idol and his minions raise the minimum wage again and drive more jobs overseas and at the same time raise taxes to compensate, thus raising the cost of living which hits who the hardest. Yes that is right the low income and growing number of unemployed. And the leftist cycle goes on. What a pack of fools!

  • SGT

    The country is in real trouble. The “free stuff crowd” has taken over.Fifty percent of the country doesn’t pay taxes.
    Forty seven million of food stamps. It is time for the people that pick up the tab on this to revolt. Work less,layoff Obama voters,invest less etc. Show them that we have had enough.

    • Evermyrtle

      @SGT  Exactly the way the “King Of  This Nation Like It.” It will grow worse. Will we remain free foru more years?????

  • mollypitcher

    There is hope in the fact that the Republicans still remain in control of the House of Representatives….No there is NOT hope through the Republicans. They (and I am talking about the “establishment Republicans”) have consistantly moved farther and farther to the left, so that they are nearly in the democrat lap. I have been a loyal party activist for more than 20 years and watched as we circled the wagons and consistantly shot at each other. And the FIRST thing I heard from Bohener’s mouth was how he was going to reach across the aisle to “get things done”. They are all in a panic with the “fiscal cliff” looming January 1. We are going to go over that cliff, either right now or in a year or two, I say let Obama hold the bag and be counted as responsible for it. I have never feared for my country and my family as I do now. I believe we have seen the last presidential election in my lifetime. I am praying for the best, but preparing for the worst.

    • Smilee

      @mollypitcher When you going to figure it out??  Gridlock simply does not work for either party. The election appears to woke up some and we will see soon if they truly have or are just saying so.

  • iweejane

    was so sure that Romney would win this. A lot of those in the know felt the same way. There was a feeling of anticipation, of a possiblity of a return to morality and justice. This is what we crave as humans. But, we have been disappointed and I at least, feel like I’ve been slapped in the face. We did what we were supposed to: we supported those who represent our values, we rallied, we voted. How did this happen? Tell us.

    • Smilee

      Very simple,  The values of those who voted for Obama was larger than those with your values

    • Don39

      The millions of lost ballots, the fraudulent absentee ballots , the rigged and mis-calibrated machines, never counted military ballots(lost or stolen), provisional ballots never counted, Multiply the number of voting precincts in the critical states by just a few extra damnocrat votes and just a few invalidated Republican votes! That is how the thug won!

  • AmberShoreman1

    Wees alls goes down to tha valley, so wees can alls can goes ups ta the mountain and wonder around like chickens widh deys heads cuts off and chat the man Yomama, YoMama, Yomama!

    • Don39

      @AmberShoreman1 It makes perfect sense considering the source! What a waste!

  • http://lastresistance.com/449/obama-wins-america-loses-where-do-we-go-from-here/ Doc Freeman

    I know our two Senators have steadily gone to the left.  I voted against the one up for re-election this year, but he still won.   The other one is up for re-election in 2014 and I hope I can find someone else to vote for since he is really a RINO.
    When you consider how our nation has driven GOD out of our government and our of our schools it is no wonder our nation is on the verge of bankruptcy and probably a take over from Muslim terrorist.  With a president who said he would stand with the Muslims in time of problems our goose is cooked. 
    Obama I will side with the Muslims 10/17/08
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0nea2Iu3g&feature=related

  • RivahMitch

    Re: That 8th step. Patrick Henry identified the alternatives correctly… liberty or death. Just make sure to take some takers with you;-) Semper Fi!

    • eveilina

      @RivahMitch i hate to think of it but ur right

  • Steve

    Good article until the end when you naively state that the republican party doesn’t need to restructure and that certain republicans are our last hope.  Listen, it was Bush and the republicans who started us down this path.  Obama has just step on the accelerator!  Agreed, the democrats are ruining this country.  However, the republicans aren’t much better.

    • mudguy

      Yes but why will no one talk about the last two years of Bush. Democrats had control of Congress. Barney Boy was over Freddy  and Fanny. Thats why the building and selling houses went south. I am tired of this just blaming Bush. It is time that the blame is shared. Democrats had their share in the mess. No money is to spent unless Congress approves the spending.

    • eveilina

      Steve @ found a civil war tombstone,online, he had put by the funeral home on his tombstone a warning for all to see, but we didnt , the story of how the Democratic party was treason, and needed to be taken down, and he learn of how evil it was then warning us !!!!!! they stole our republic before we was even born 1861, not soon after all hell broke loose, the war was not about the slaves dont let them fool u it was about the North wanting to tax the hell out of the South !! the democratic party never cared about the Blacks thats the truth!! it has been known that the blacks always was a Republican, from the beginning! these lieing dogs have satan behind them the truth is out and OUR ALMIGHTLY has given it to us!! he has poured his spirit to all, so no one has the excuse they didnt know, his coming is at hand but first we will see the wrath of satan on this countrym half is satans now and the other half is GODS, but this is the biggest test of our lifes we are fixing to go threw hang on til the end Jesus warned us to get your crown in heaven, for there will be many more fall to satan before it s over, our Father in Heaven told us, many are called few are choosen we have been chosen will be worthly ? the test is about to be starting……

  • http://Politicalrevelution.com/ walt1976

    You can trace the problem with the housing Market all the why back to the Carter Administration when ACRON went to Carter which Acorn’s lawyer was Obama and asked him to have Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to loosen up on their loan applications, then over the years the Bankers learn that they could give out loans that should had never been made and sale the loans to the stock market, Bear and Sterns brought a lot and when the housing Market went down well we saw what happen, so their is plenty of blame to go around, but through the years I have seen the real estate market go down and back up, the Auto Industry the same, all markets go in cycles that is what Capitalism is all about, it has worked for our Nation for many years, the Government has no use to be part of the business of this Country, the reason the Constitution was made up was to protect the people from the Government. Today the largest employer is the Government, which in the last four years has grown more than in the last thirty years if not more. Through out history our Nation has shown that our Country does better with less Government, and allowing the small business to grow. A company will come up with some alternative why of power not the Government which have throw ed so much have our tax money at and have lost so much of it. There has always been problems in America but the people have always raised to make this a better Nation not the Government.
    God has provide this Nation with so much resources but we have not even started to use it. For now fossil fuel is abundant and until someone comes up with a better way for the Power this Nation needs we should be using these, this would put so many people to work that can not find jobs, which would mean there would be more people paying taxes in stead of having to live off the countries taxes, I am sure there are a lot of people that would rather have a job than have to live on food stamps and unemployment.
    To close which I did not intend to go on like this God is the only answer that we have and as a servant of God makes life more bearable because he tells us all things are possible through Him.

    • eveilina

      @walt1976  AND NOW THERE LETTING THESE SAME PEOPLE HAVE LOANS AGAIN WHY TO DESTROY AMERICA MORE, THATS WHY

    • eveilina

      @walt1976 I TO WAS VERY SADDENED IN MY SOUL WHEN THIS MAN TOOK OFFICE I COULDNT TELL U WHY I JUST FIGURED god PUT THAT SADNESS IN MY HEART BECAUSE HE KNEW I WOULD GO SEARCHING OUT FOR THE TRUTH HE KNOWS ME, AND SO THE JOURNEY TOOK ME FOR 4YS, AND I FOUND OUT EVERYTHING THAT GOD WANTED ME TO, NOW I KNOW THE TRUTH, AND I HAVE BEEN TELLING THOSE OF IT. GOD HELP US

  • C C 1984

    Doesn’t anybody remember the plane that crashed with ballots on it for military personnel that they never received ?
    In Pennsylvania people were turned away from voting for not having ID, yet, it isn’t required in PA since a Liberal Judge went against the proposed Voter ID Law..
    Also, in PA, somebody went to vote only to find out that somebody had already voted that very morning using his name!
    Oh, and don’t forget about the soldiers who weren’t allowed to cast their votes because they didn’t get their ballots in on time … due to a change of dates and a mistep with getting out absentee ballots on time.  Then just last night on FOX news I heard that millions of ballots had mysteriously disappeared.  This kinda brings Putin to mind when he ran for President of Russia !    Hmmmmmm !     I wonder exactly what Obama meant by he’d have More Flexibility After he’s elected.   I’m Sure that got ” TRANSMITTED TO VLADMIR ”  !

  • C C 1984

    Doesn’t anybody remember the plane that crashed with ballots on it for military personnel that they never received ?
    In Pennsylvania people were turned away from voting for not having ID, yet, it isn’t required in PA since a Liberal Judge went against the proposed Voter ID Law..
    Also, in PA, somebody went to vote only to find out that somebody had already voted that very morning using his name!
    Oh, and don’t forget about the soldiers who weren’t allowed to cast their votes because they didn’t get their ballots in on time … due to a change of dates and a mistep with getting out absentee ballots on time.  Then just last night on FOX news I heard that millions of ballots had mysteriously disappeared.  This kinda brings Putin to mind when he ran for President of Russia !    Hmmmmmm !     I wonder exactly what Obama meant by he’d have More Flexibility After he’s elected.   I’m Sure that got ” TRANSMITTED TO VLADMIRCan Anybody Say — “VOTER FRAUD”

  • J Joy

    My state of being is now depressed, melancholy, gloomy and heavy-hearted.  I feel sadness for America’s future.  Obama’s victory speech – it sounded like the same one he gave 4 years ago so I felt no hope there.  Obama won this election by not telling America what his plan is but by attacking his opponent who did put out plans.  Obama couldn’t run on his record so why did so many Americans run to the polls to give him another chance?  I am nervous, anxious, fearful and stressed out about America’s future.  Obama does not understand economics nor does he show any love for the Constitution or the law.  It does not concern Obama any to use his Executive Order powers to get his way and to do that in a very sneaky, deceitful way.  Obama will not help America!!!  Harry Reid will not help America!!!  It’s a sad day for America and there are many sad days to come.

    • Evermyrtle

      @J Joy How many of the millions computers used showed Obama when Romney was punched in??? There should be a massive investigation but will there be one??

    • C C 1984

      @J Joy  I Know “EXACTLY” how you feel.  Too many Americans are feeling that way lately!

    • dr faith

      @J Joy I feel the same. I have spent a lot of time in recent months praying for America and that we get a wise leader that follows God’s Commandments. I asked God to turn the hearts of those that sought to turn this great Republic into a Socialist / Marxist government. Frankly I am more afraid of al Qaeda and now we have nothing to stop them. We need to turn to God, He is our strength and salvation. God bless America

  • C C 1984

    Doesn’t anybody remember the plane that crashed with ballots on it for military personnel that they never received ?
    In Pennsylvania people were turned away from voting for not having ID, yet, it isn’t required in PA since a Liberal Judge went against the proposed Voter ID Law..
    Oh, and don’t forget about the soldiers who weren’t allowed to cast their votes because they didn’t get their ballots in on time … due to a change of dates and a mistep with getting out absentee ballots on time. 
     Then just last night on FOX news I heard that millions of ballots had mysteriously disappeared.  This kinda brings Putin to mind when he ran for President of Russia !    Hmmmmmm !     I wonder exactly what Obama meant by he’d have More Flexibility After the election. How could he be so Sure he’d Win ?   I’m Sure that got “TRANSMITTED TO VLADMIR” 
    Can Anybody Say — “VOTER FRAUD” ?   
    Afterall, the last 4yrs have been filled with Fraud, Lies, Deceit and “TREASON” .

    • Save this Nation

      @C C 1984
       Look everyone, The whole thing is just a Hollywood production. Just before the staged result for president was stated by the media during the tabulations for each state, the media turned to the Romney event and I witnessed Romney give his speech thanking all his supporters for doing everything they could. He was literally and openly admitting defeat on national television before the verdict came in. I’m telling everyone, the whole thing was staged and Romney knew he was basically just a high paid actor. You have to wonder how much he was paid. Now go back to the GOP nomination. They shut Ron Paul down because he actually could have been elected and he would have told all of us during the debates what was actually happening. I knew it but 1/2 of the nation is still sleeping. Back then poles showed hands down that when people were asked if an election was held between Ron Paul and Obama and who they think would win an election, the overwhelming comments by people from all kinds of backgrounds were that RON PAUL would have destroyed the globalist puppet Obama.
       
      The whole thing is staged. Agenda 21 here we come. We are all screwed. The whole thing is a freaking joke and the joke is on we the people. Go back to sleep people, nothing to see over here.

    • eveilina

      @C C 1984 AND DONT FORGET HIM SAYING HE WANTED EVERYONE TO BE CHIPPED BY 2013, I SAID THE SAME THING HOW DID HE KNOW HE WOULD BE PRESIDENT? THE DUMBY HAS OPENED HIS MOUTH AND TOLD ON HIMSELF LOL WOW AND HE THINKS HIS SO SMART, SNEAKY DOESNT MAKE ONE SMART

      • C C 1984

        @eveilina  I do remember him saying he wanted everybody chipped by 2013. 
         I became wary when they first began chipping dogs and cats in order to be able to find them If they got lost! I wondered then if it was the precursor to the mark of the Beast.
        How Did he Know he would be Elected? I think it’s because he was assurred that everything would be “Taken Care Of”.   He’s Not only Sneaky .. I believe him to be “EVIL”.
        I see it in his eyes Everytime he speaks!  He’s always given me the Creeps!  “ALWAYS”

  • jim in sebring

    If there is hope because the GOP still controls the House then plase tell me why in the past 4 years the GOP controlled House never investigated or pursued the claim that BHO was born overseas? This is not a tabloid story. The facts are out there and pretty clear. Why is BHO hiding his past? The GOP is gutless to go after BHO and therefore as guilty as Obama for the fall of this country.

    • eveilina

      @jim in sebring BHO IS NOTHING WITHOUT HIS ELITES CONTROLING HIM REMEMBER THAT!!!! HIS JUST A PUPPET

  • RickL

    Yep… The real proof is in the Pudding, as they used to say!  If you just look at the Obama record over the last four years, there is absolutely no evidence there to justify him having another four years of the same activity!!!  His purposeful deception of his past by deceptively sealing all of his records…Border Security, unworkable Health Care, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Sandy, 970 some odd Executive Orders (the most in US history)…NONE!!!
     
    My epiphany is that all you have to do is look in your history books, just one or two chapters back, at the fall of the Soviet Union!  That’s where we are right now!  That’s the future we are looking forward to.  A country operates in a model successfully, until circumstances change (however they happen), and they can’t operate by the status quo model anymore, and then the change happens…overnight…and that country has to figure out a whole new way to operate!
     
    Those who are saying so, are right…I will also side with the Jeffersonians and if I have to be labeled as a seditionist, or a traitor for siding against what’s happening right now, I would have to ask  “What CONSTITUTION am I being a Traitor to???
     
    What Constitution are we operating under now???  Tiny bits and pieces of the one we started out with!

    • Evermyrtle

      @RickL This is a man led by Satan that had to become the head of an already sin infested country of people. Yes I dare say that. Just think back at how much of the population was really Christian. Of Course we did have many Christians, but we had many, many people who lived a fairly decent live that professed no religion, at all, and the we had those who have since, come to ruling positions of the country and “how have they ruled?” They have driven, not led, the country down to into the pits. They do not know it, but they are leading us into the tribulation.

    • eveilina

      @RickL Im with u brother all the way!!! GOD BLESS u for speaking out

  • Brabbie2002

    to Panors…I really hate to tell you this, but the Congress may be led by Republicans, but it was the Dumbocrapic senate that crammed the health bill down our throats – remember “you can read it after you vote it in”?  The senate has backed this miserable excuse for a human on every point!   The government has pushed small business, which is, by the way, the backbone of America, to the breaking point.  The government is running out of time and money to support all you “gimme” crowd.  And i would love to see the faces of you “gimmes” when it happens.   You can only tax people so much and then they join your ranks!  Who is going to support your sorry butts then – a busted government and a polarized population.   You will probably be caught in the cross fire!

    • eveilina

      @Brabbie2002 Thank for your posting the truth GOD loves u, and we must stand our ground for GOD no matter what happens!!!!

  • Evermyrtle

    We will continue to become more anti-GOD without some miracle from GOD himself, it is out of our hands;
     
    II Tim 3:12-17
    12 Yea, and all that will live godly in CHRIST JESUS shall suffer persecution.
    13. But evil men and seducers shall grow worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
    14. But continue  in the things which you have learned and have been assured of, knowing of whom you have learned them;
    15. And that from a child you have known the HOLY SCRIPTURES which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in CHRIST JESUS
    16. All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness;
    17 .That the man of GOD be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
     
    I think that all Christians best “buckle up” for the times that are coming.

    • eveilina

      @Evermyrtle Yes i agree GOD help us, for what is about to come on this world

  • sandman494

    I don’t see a problem.  Red states have the food and guns.  The system needs to collapse under it’s own weight so we can rebuild it.  There’s no turning back from socialism now by trying to persuade people that they don’t really want all that free stuff that the government is giving them.

    • eveilina

      @sandman494 very good point sandman494 the only thing i see as a problem is people need to turn back to GOD, i cried yesterday thinking how the Democratic party at the convention professed they took God out of the equation, it hurt me to think they will not except him and that there disrepecting him and he loves all of us. i dread the day when his wrath hits i dont want to see it,   I pray GOD will spare me from it.

      • sandman494

        I personally think this is prophesy being fullfilled.  Christians should be spiritually ready to deal with this.  The Bible teaches that believers will be in the minority, so don’t despair.  This is all part of God’s plan.  Believers will have to deal with the unpleasantness and discomfort of the world gone Godless, but in the end we will be victorious for eternity.

      • sandman494

        @eveilina Forgive me if this has already been posted:
         
        Philippians 4:6-7New International Version (NIV)6 Do not be anxious about anything,A)” but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.B)” 7 And the peace of God,C)” which transcends all understanding,D)” will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

        • eveilina

          @sandman494 nothing to forgive =D the words of truth is always the way to go thank u my friend I pray we can get threw this and these words are received by me i will apply. thank u for reminding me we all need that is why Jesus told us not to forsake the assembly

    • Don39

      @sandman494 Yes, I stated yesterday regarding the coming revolution that it  needs to begin by the states , red states, asserting there Constitutional Rights. They should immediately recall all their standing militia from federal control. That will be the base for the new revolutionary force if needed. It could then be a simple matter of staving out the blue states , the center of the new progressive movement. It would not take long and I doubt it would get far before the leftist centers rebelled against their so-called leadership.The route back to the Constitution without extensive blood shed lies in the several states.

      • C C 1984

        @Don39  @sandman494  I Agree 100%. I think it will be our ONLY escape from Total Control.  I don’t know how soon it will happen, but, I think Martial Law is Not too far away!

  • C C 1984

    Yes, You’re right about that Evermyrtle !   The Times ARE Coming!  For that very reason, we must “NEVER” allow them to take away OUR 2nd Ammendment Right.  It “IS” the “ONLY” means by which to Fight “Total Tyranny” … Not to mention, protecting ourselves from the “TAKERS” that “WILL” come and “TRY” to Take the Little we will All have left.  The JBS has been Right for Years … Get Us OUT of the U.N. !    “WHO” do they think they are messing with our sovereignty and Our Constitution.  The New World Order Elitists can go “Straight to Hell with ALL of the Corrupt Politicians !

    • eveilina

      @C C 1984 NOW as ever we need to return back to GOD, as Christians he will hear our cry, repent and pray, this is our only hope, God Help Us!!!!! . 4 yrs ago i learned so much, about this country i was born here 6 generations, I love  my country and my people. American people are not the bad guys, our fathers before us was not aware of what satan was doing, i believe this with all my heart for i was asleep to. we must forgive them they didnt know what was happening behind the scenes satan will never let u know his real, and is trying to destroy us, he only wants our souls because of his selfishness, he knows its to late for him, so  his trying to take the rest of us, If people would just see this and turn back to the God Of Heaven he is real, he has been with me all my life protecting me til this day, when we step away its our choice, but his arms are always ready for us to return like a child who left home, he loves us more then we could ever understand, my tears are for what will come apon our world for not trusting and turning back, i know not what angry we are preparing to see from the wrath of God in Heaven, but i can tell u i dont want to face it, its not worth it to lose my soul for anything. !! one last time i think America might awake if she see what wrath is coming for us al!!! I am  sinner who was saved by Gods Grace. if u dont know our GOD in Heaven speak out to him now!! cry out for him to save u even now he i still saving but that to will come to an end soon well the time is here please i ask u to call apon his name ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart speak the words I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and please Father save me. he loves u and he will, and then walk with him everyday, talk to him he hears u, when i make mistakes i man up to it, GOD doesnt always pick us up from our mistakes, a child has to learn the ways of rightness, and walk in them, church is in our heart because he tells us he lives there now. so he is with u always the bible says, he sees all we do. he knows everything about us we cant hide from him, so be true to him for he will save u from this evil coming, look around u, satan is in our government there controling our weather to, he has taken over our country and the world, soon God will return but frist the Antichrist will come. make sure u know who is who, dont let any man fool u, read your bible it will explain this to u and save u from hell. God will keep u from falling………God Bless all and I pray u will see his love for u…………………………….

  • JohnSprinklebumj

    Obama appears to favor the Europe model, with government the do all for everyone, at the expense of personal liberties, independence, personal initiative, entrepreneurial spirit, self-reliance, faith and religion, moral and ethical values, the stability provided by a family headed by both a man and a woman present.  The President has failed to lead, did not support a budget from Congress, in fact, no budget for four years.  If voters are happy with this, then they truly deserve who they elected.  He spent money we did not have, and with an expensive, ineffective stimulus package.  He basically turned a blind eye to our consulate in Benghazi and to Israel, our staunchest ally in the region.  The bipartisanship and transparency he promised never came about, and over a period of 4 years.  Congress, almost all ONE party, rammed through the “Affordable” Health Care Act, which over 55% of Americans were opposed.  Now, we find chains hiring more part timers, to get out from under the “affordable”, government taken-over health care system.  Medicare was gutted to the tune of 716 BILLION in the deal, to support “affordable” health care.  These socialist, European-style experiments in our republic will no doubt lead us down the same path as Greece and other countries.  The cowards in government hide behind the U.N. to try to get gun control that would never happen with our Constitutional 2nd amendment, so they try to circumvent  Congress, the U.S. Constitution and the American people.   This legislation did not pass this session, but there is always next time.  My sense is the typical Obama voter is fairly uninformed as to the actual consequences of their voting decision.  With four more years, they will have ample time to find out.  Voters need to accept the choice we have collectively made, but that is not the same as approving of the decision resulting in 4 more years of the same, inexperienced, incompetent leadership.  My sense is that in this case, experience is that which enables voters to recognize a mistake, the second time they make it.  Big government saps energy from the private sector and creates entitlements which cannot be fulfilled.  This same government spent social security contributions from workers who worked and contributed all their lives.   They took all the money not being paid out at the time and spent it for other things, NOT for what the monies were intended.  Not only that, in typical government inefficiency, workers were to get about 35 on their money.  The stock market, over time, is on the order of 8% or so, and the typical worker would have about $840,000 at retirement.  As it stands, both social security and Medicare will NOT be present in its current form for later retirees.  Government should be LESS intrusive, should not penalize hard work and earning money, and not continue spending money it does not  have.  And NO, the solution is NOT to just collect more taxes and continue racial, income and gender biases against and among Americans.  There is no cause to celebrate four more years of economic and social experimentation by the Messiah.

    • Chuck

      @JohnSprinklebumj There’s one thing in your post with which I must disagree: “…experience is that which enables voters to recognize a mistake, the second time they make it.”  How about “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!”  We should learn from our mistakes, yes… but we should learn the first time not to make the same mistake twice, or thrice, or whatever.  The trend toward where we are now in our nation, its government, society and economy, has been going on for well over 60 years.  How many times can citizens/voters be excused for making the same mistakes?  Someone else once said, “Those who fail to learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.”  We’ve been repeating the same mistake for generations – that being, we allow people who are bent on destroying us to rule us.  Dependency on government for one’s livelihood is an addiction, like alcohol and drugs.  To overcome an addiction, one must first recognize and admit he has it.  We now have several generations of government dependency addicts who refuse to see and recognize what’s happening to themselves, their communities and the nation.  We also have several generations of “leaders” who are like drug dealers – handing out “entitlements” to dope the people.  Eventually, the resources to fund this particular drug will dry up and there will be no “rich” left (after taxes, fees and penalties) to fund the lives of the poor.  Since many of the poor, over the years, have lost their will to work for a living and others are finding it difficult to find work in an economy where the “rich,” who run businesses and industries and create jobs that pay enough for their workers to live, increasingly can’t afford to invest in the economy.  At some point, probably soon, this whole house of cards will collapse.  The results won’t be pretty, but they are definitely predictable.  Can Obama make it happen in 4 years?  Absolutely!

      • JeffReuteler

        @JohnSprinklebumj Don’t forget the new entitlement pogram.  Obamacare, with 23 million people added to the healthcare system and most will be paying little or nothing for their new health care, who do you think will be paying for this, yep you are corect those of us who are paying for healthcare.  That is why since it began my premiums have doubled and eventually healthcare will be rationed and the system will determine whether you are worthy of being treated.  Projections have shown that this system is not sustainable without increased reveues either by higher premiums and/or raising taxes. Now that Obama has been reelecetd it will all become another monster entitlement program that we simpy can’t afford.  Many will eventually have to drop healthcare coverage simply because they no longer can afford it and then they will get taxed.

        • thethinman

          @JeffReuteler  @JohnSprinklebumj the word is not taxed – they will get punished.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @JeffReuteler  @JohnSprinklebumj    Of course…this is one of the reasons the party’s over. This is the end of it all. It’s the age of Nancy Pelosi and her ilk…. THE DEMOCRAT PARTY

      • thethinman

        @JohnSprinklebumj invest in the economy – people do not invest in the economy – they invest in business that make things or provide services – that creates the “economy”.

    • scientist5

      @JohnSprinklebumj
       Unfortunately, you are correct.  A look at history will show that this downward spiral began with the Wilson adminsitration.  It has continued, sometimes slowed, but never reversed.  Each Democratic regime has increased the decline of American democracy.  Remember America started as a REPUBLIC – not a DEMOCRACY.  Check the difference for yourselves..

      • thethinman

        @scientist5  @JohnSprinklebumj you could say that – but the real damage was done during WWII when women went to work so that it freed up the men for battle.  then they didn’t return home and take up their duty to raise children and be a family.  THAT was the end of the United States we’d like to believe was.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @JohnSprinklebumj   Wrong. obama prefers the ‘overthrow america’ model

      • Tony Ruiz

        @JohnSprinklebumj 
        BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.  GOODBYE.

  • Anita

    What you fail to see is that there is no difference between the Republican and Democrat parties.

    • Don39

      You can not see the trees for the forest. I am neither, but I am not blind nor stupid. There are great gaping differences between the two parties.Huge differences on taxation and huge difference on moral issues just to name two. I do not see any conservatives in the progressive movement. And I do not see any hardline socialist or communist in or supporting the Republican Party. The more I think about it the stupider your statement is!

      • chamuiel

        @Don39 stupider is not a word. Just thought you might like to know.

        • thethinman

          @chamuiel  @Don39 some people are more stupid than others – therefore they ARE stupider.

        • chamuiel

          @thethinman  @Don39 
           
          You had it right at “more stupid”. You should have stopped there.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @thethinman  @chamuiel  @Don39    and then there are the stupidest

      • thethinman

        @Don39 words are easy – especially when they are lies.  BOTH parties are the party of big government – which always means more spending which means more taxing.  And Republicans are no more moral than Democrats.  There are tons of progressives in the Republican Party – John McCain, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner – just to name a few.  Conservatives CLING in desperation to the Republican Party – always hoping against hope to get a crumb.

        • Don39

          @thethinman Conservative adhere to the Republican candidates because they are the lesser of evils. Only the truly stupid allow the greater evil to prevail! I do not belong to, cling to, nor support the Republican party.

    • Save this Nation

      Lots of Love to you Anita, you and I are on the same page.

    • Tony Ruiz

      Boy are you ever in the dark. What are you, like 9 years old?

  • George S

    I agree completely, the Republicans lost this election because of the failure to communicate their point of view, and to rebut the ever growing media lies that were spread by our communist press, Hitler’s fascists often said that if you tell a big lie long enough often enough, people will believe it, the lies of the left have gone unrefuted, so why shouldn’t the electorate  believe the press, as a result we have a maxist as a president, pderhaps this is a judgement from God, maybe we will heed his chastisement and return to our moral values and judeo/christian values which made America great, i hope this is the case, i’m not sure i’d like living in a twilight America having remembered what we once were, the young seem confortable with this because they don’t know their roots, something that happened to the great nation of Isreal in biblical times, are we destined to repeat the same process, it seems so, but I hope not, I’m will to bet that there are Macabees like me out there who will take to the mountains organize themselves and take back the government which is theirs from the tyranny that is building now

    • scientist5

      @George S
       We lost the election because GOP candidates for the most part are unable to convince the masses that it is difficult to divide up ZERO and come out with a sum.  The ideologues are frozen in a dream of idealism that never looks at reality.  Put the two together and you have exactly what we got.   In closing, our country’s face has changed and our moral standards have continually declined.   Our 49+% realize it, understand that Zero is Zero.  I am at a loss of how to teach the other 50% that the route we are taking will end up iwth disastrous results.  You see they are only interested in getting to the well before it runs dry – to hell with any one behind them in line.   I love my country, but at 89 I’ve finally lost my sense of optimism for the future.

      • chamuiel

        @scientist5  @George S  I too, have lost my sense of optimism for ever changing the direction the 51% of this country is dragging us into. They simply do not listen.

        • JeffReuteler

          @chamuiel  @scientist5  @George S The 51% don’t listen but they don’t  think or understand ether.

        • dr faith

          @JeffReuteler @chamuiel @scientist5 @George S They just want what is in it for them. It is a repeating cycle, and the poor in the South of both races are not going to get abortions, they are going to keep having babies for the government to pay for, ever since LBJ’s war on poverty the fathers of these babies felt no sense of responsibility to stay around to provide for his children. In the 1950s and early 60s a man would work to feed and house his family. After the War on Poverty he had no motivation to stay. Any worry about how his children would survive was gone, the government would take care of them. I remember the commercials or ads for Welfare on TV in the early days “It’s a hand up, not a handout.”
          Well it became a handout and a free ride to generations of lazy slobs. Sure I have known the occasional single mother who needed food stamps until she could get a job or the Veteran who used food stamps for a while to feed his family because his government wasn’t supporting him. These are the people who should get them. But instead it’s a way of life, all thanks to my nominee for the second worst President, Lyndon Baines Johnson. He mismanaged the Vietnam War, he liked to play soldier and tell his Generals what to do day to day; I think he intended Welfare to keep the “nigras” as he called Black people, Negro was commonly used in those days, dependent.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @JeffReuteler  @chamuiel  @scientist5  @George S 
           
           
          Are you kidding me? They all candidates for Leno’s “man on the street” interviews where they get it wrong about who’s buried in Grant’s tomb

        • Tony Ruiz

          @chamuiel  @scientist5  @George S    YOU BE RITE, BRUDDER

        • chamuiel

          @JeffReuteler  @scientist5  @George S True!

        • chamuiel

          @dr faith   @JeffReuteler  @chamuiel  @scientist5  @George It isn’t just the poor in the South. It is also the poor in the north, and I guarantee you that most of them vote Democrat. Look at a final map of where the blue and red votes were at in the recent election. You see very few blue votes in the south, most of them were in the north, and the two coasts. Sorry, but NY, and California is not the south.

    • Smilee

      @George S GOP has driven out all but old white men so it now is mostly the party of old white men and there are not enough old white mento win  anymore.

  • Strong

    The defeated attitudes of the 49% Americans after an election is a heavy burden to bear; however, I look as defeat as just a setback or an obstacle that can be upturned. As individual humans we have the ability to change our attitudes to better our situation and make transformation in a direction that meets the desired outcome. I as an individual, part of the 49% Americans who felt the defeat will use my ability to change my attitude to strive to transform my direction to meet that desired outcome. One final note: Faith (GOD) is how I overcome any obstacle.

  • Bryan Schlundt

    This blog post helps to illustrate the point I made in an earlier comment: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/divided-gop-resulted-in-obama-victory/

  • Bryan Schlundt

    This blog post helps to illustrate the point I made in an earlier comment:
    http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/divided-gop-resulted-in-obama-victory
     
    The point was the establishment GOP does not have the same values as the Conservative grassroots and that the party does need fundamental restructuring, as in dramatic change in leadership.

  • scientist5

    I agree with this article completely.  It happens to be the same route to anarchy that d’Toqueville, a Frenchman, described in his book Democracy in America written in the early 1800s.  The cycle of destruction ends with America in shambles.  At that point rebuilding begins and follows, but the same route begins as before.   I always think of the phrase –  Those who do not heed the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.  So, here we go.  I just wonder how long step 7 will last before the masses wake up and discover they are slaves.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @scientist5    I strongly recommend you read Revelation

  • JohnSprinklebumj

    I may be in the minority view here, but will express anyway.  The Republicans do not have a large enough tent.  We ignored the massive Latino vote and did not address problems this group has.  This is a diverse group and includes Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, many parts of the same demographic.  My sense, is despite the closely held views, Republicans should get off the social issues, the more right wing of the base.  Republicans are NOT going to stop abortion, for example.  Encourage adoption and okay abortion for incest, rape and life of the mother.  Extreme positions just exclude too many other groups.  What I am saying is stick to issues like jobs, the economy, less government, more responsible fiscal policies, lower corporate taxes (ours among the highest of any country), encourage new business start-ups, preserve personal liberties, turn over to the states things the government cannot do as well or should not be doing, cut out expensive, inefficient programs, encourage personal responsibility, decrease the size of government, and permit and encourage more private sector jobs.  Government should be LESS intrusive, it is becoming much more so.  These things are NOT being done for the most part now.  I agree, your statement about fool me once … is less cynical and more on the mark than mine.  Am I one of the few voters who see problems in the some 900+ Presidential (Executive) Orders coming out of Washington?  Especially, the “emergency” provisions, with a massive concentration of discretionary powers in the President, at the expense of Congress, the individual states and personal liberties?  Folks, these problems are real and many of them are immediate.  Bipartisanship is off to a great start.  Harry Reid is already trying to stop any Republican filibuster on pending and planned legislation.  I guess they needed the filibuster when in the minority, but when in the majority for the next four years, we need to dispense with that procedural rule.  Hypocrites.  Let’s hope this time the Republicans do not engage in quite as spirited, somewhat destructive primary next time, when the ammo used against Romney and others was then used against the Republican candidate in the general election.  There is time to improve on the Republican tent size and have a smoother primary next time, but as far as the basic notions of less government, responsible spending, more good jobs, less regulation or at least legislation more favorable to investment in the private sector and personal responsibility are all good, solid ideas to build on and are a stark contrast with Obama’s view of where America should be headed.

    • chamuiel

      @JohnSprinklebumj 938 executive orders to date. With more to come.

  • DavidLeoHeatherly

    I see all these comments about “takers” and it leads me to believe many of you think half the country is on some sort of welfare and that is simply not true. Do you people have any idea who falls into that category? It’s the working poor with children who receive the EIC(earned income credit)  because the jobs they have do not pay a life sustaining wage. It’s military families with a deployed spouse who receive food assistance because they don’t earn enough and the have a wife and kids who don’t live on the base because they were called up. It’s the elderly who worked their entire lives and had their retirement wiped out by the crash of ’08 because we allowed the banks to become so huge they became “To Big To Fail”. It’s students who are seeking a better life but are working and going to school but don’t earn enough in a part time job to pay income taxes. It’s the disabled person with MS or cancer. Also EVERYONE pays some type of taxes, they just aren’t all income taxes. They pay sales tax, their states retail point of sale tax, payroll tax, the help their landlords pay property tax via their rent. If you hate the people I just outlined I feel sorry for you because you really don’t understand that the job creators are us. We drive the economy and that in turns makes or stops a business from adding employees. The middle class create the need for jobs, they don’t just pop up through some magic. The wealthy aren’t job creators, they’re investors, demand creates jobs. The way tax policy favors the rich is obscene to me. Anytime a rich person pays a lower percentage than a guy driving truck, or a woman doing payroll for a company there is a problem with the system. Anytime someone making under $5K pays a higher percentage of tax than a guy making a couple of million there is something wrong with our approach.

    • JohnSprinklebumj

      @DavidLeoHeatherly I think you are basically right about the takers, many of them are simply not takers.  Demand does help create jobs, but I would remind you that many businesses are sitting on the sideline, with their money in banks, not hiring until they see increased demand.  People in the present economy, with gas prices high, food prices up, some lost their jobs and even their homes in foreclosure, are NOT putting that much demand on goods and services.  Second, with Obamacare, the UNaffordable Health Care Act, employers are already reducing the number of full time workers, and increasing the number of part time employees.  This is largely a consequence of having to bear the considerable burden of heath care costs for business owners.  This alone does NOT create jobs, it actually can cost what previously were full time jobs.  If you ever wonder about the abysmally low interest rates people are given on bank deposits, while credit cards are running about 8.9% to over 20% interest is that a lot of businesses have deposits and basically, banks do not need much of your money.  They tap off part of the money stream in charges, loan rates, credit cards and everything from paper checks each month to lock boxes.  Businesses, in slow economic times, are NOT that willing to spend money for capital equipment, hiring new employees, and certainly not having to pay high medical care costs for employees.  What you will see initially is MORE part time jobs created, many below 28 hours per week, and some below or at 25 hours, to escape the “affordable” health care act.  Expect to see 715 billion come out of Medicare to help pay for this new government scheme, can’t say it really is a plan, and 55% of Americans were against it to begin with.  How could anyone think this would result in as good or better medical care for seniors?  Hint:  It won’t.   With about half of college graduates NOT finding a job to date, with increasing medical costs by “affordable” health care, 20 million or so UNemployed, underemployed or just stopped looking, where do you look to see this amazing demand that these people are supposed to create?  My sense is those elements are not yet in place, nor are they likely to be soon.  It takes close to 180,000 jobs a MONTH added to just keep up with population growth. Anything on TOP of that is an increase in net employment.  It is fairly simple to get the ball rolling.  Reduce the corporate tax rate to 25% and encourage businesses to get off the sidelines and bet on the economy improving.  Our rate is among the highest in the world, and it does not serve us well for job creation.  The problem is the current administration advice on fiscal matters is being ignored, including the very committee set up by the President.  He knows little to nothing about how a free-market economy works and just passes stimulus to green buddies, creating very, very few new jobs.  Not smart.

      • scientist5

        @JohnSprinklebumj  @DavidLeoHeatherly
         Perfect description.  You left out one big thing – overwhelming REGULATIONS.  I add – I have a grandaughter – she is 22 and has a permanent job – it is a part time permanent job – 25 hours a week.  Easy to figure out why!

    • thethinman

      @DavidLeoHeatherly I’m sorry – but “I” do not believe there is a single military family that needs does not pay enough – with the benefits that the military/government provides that they need food stamps.  I’ll admit that it is possible – but then that is perhaps because they are irresponsible children still – and really grown up enough to have a family.

      • rockcut

        @thethinman  @DavidLeoHeatherly
         YOUR COMMENT IS IGNROANT.  I SPEND 22 YRS IN THE MILITARY AND LOW RANKING TROOPS WITH FAMILIES HAD TO SUE FOOD STAMPS ON MANY OCCASIONS.  WHEN I STARTED THEY WERE PAID ONLY $78.OO A MONTH.  YOUR COMMENTS SICKEN ME.

      • chamuiel

        @thethinman  You are incorrect about Military people, especially the lower ranks not needing food stamps and other help to survive.

    • thethinman

      @DavidLeoHeatherly EVERYONE – every working person that earns a wage or gets an income (other than from the government) should pay the SAME percentage in income tax.  EVERYONE should have skin in the game.
       
      The middle class does not create the need for jobs – what creates jobs is someone wanting to make money.  That is what business is ALL about.  Making money.  A business hires the number of workers needed – and not one more – to make that money, enough profit to pay the employees, the overhead, and to purchase more supplies/goods.  THAT is what creates jobs.  When taxation, regulation, cost of labor and cost of energy make the business unprofitable – no amount of want or need by someone else will reopen that business – unless there is a profit in it.  THAT is why the big corporations have moved manufacturing overseas – they can still make that profit – to pay dividends to their investors.  You want Jobs in America – you have to create the climate that will allow a business to make a profit – to pay employees, overhead, and taxes.  No amount of BS by presidents or would be presidents has any effect on actually creating a single job.  Action – Obama could add 20,000 jobs tomorrow by authorizing the Canada pipeline – he wouldn’t have created the jobs – he would have allowed them to be.

      • Tony Ruiz

        @thethinman  @DavidLeoHeatherly     Forget rhyme and reason. Those days are gone. Common sense and goodness will not be prevailing here. Better to pack up, store up and be ready for what’s coming, and it ain’t nuthin’ like what we now know. It is going to get bad. Real bad.

      • chamuiel

        @thethinman I do agree with this. When he Business man can no longer make a profit, that item will no longer be manufactured and the jobs it created will be gone also.
         
        As far as consumers creating jobs, it doesn’t work that way, as there is always someone somewhere in the world ready to buy a product.

    • http://aol.com/ shell holston

      @DavidLeoHeatherly It is an affront to start a sentence with, “Do you people have any idea” and go from there with your comment. Yes, we people do have an idea, just as you, but you gave no solution  to the overwhelming, many faceted, unsustainable dilemma we are in because there is not just one avenue to pursue but many. Keep in mind the “poor will always be with you” spoke Jesus and having recognized that, we must see that the poor are fed, clothed, and sheltered as best we can, but they must help! That is the job of the “people.” But you mentioned the  young going to school to better themselves but unable to find a job in their field when they complete their education, and perhaps the answer would be to forego the expense of college and start at the bottom of a menial job with on the job training,  ie., garbage collecting, yard maintenance, childcare, truck driving, office working, retail, planting and harvesting food, but too many would say that is beneath them. Well, I say, so would be working in a fast food place with a doctorate. Yes, the tax code needs a major overhaul, however it’s hard to trust those in Washington to do anything, such as pass a budget, stop uncontrolled spending! Maybe the answer to that is simply refuse to pay you federal income taxes and since there is a shortage of prisons to  house us all another solution would have to be found. Product demand creates jobs, but if we keep demanding union wages companies will continue to move overseas where they get cheap labor, and we get cheap products, cheaply made and cheaply priced, and our cheap demands are met. Of course, people pay “some” tax but check out some of our leaders and what they pay after they “give” themselves a wage increase.  I agree largely with what you write, but it falls short of a solution because the “rich” are not totally to  blame for the laws and the way they are implemented. There has to be a “grass roots” revolt of some sort to start anew with the Constitution to uphold.  Some people will fall through the cracks, but the potential to succeed is still here in the USA, but I don’t know for how long before the “cliff!”

      • chamuiel

        @shell holston  @DavidLeoHeatherly Unfortunately many of the young today would ask how am I going to afford that $400 I-phone doing office working, or retail sales?
         
        This is what we have become as a society.

    • http://www.daaymfg.com/ Carl Dixon

      @DavidLeoHeatherly At 74 I’ve seen many faults in both parties, no doubt this will continue until the Lord returns, but what you mentioned I don’t feel is questioned, I feel the question is with how mismanaged and misunderstood its became. Its not how much the rich pays or the poor receives. I personally know a family of 5 receiving $940.00 per month food stamps alone, plus they get all their medical free, he works and has it much better than those you mentioned David. There is to much of such going on for the tax payer to support, but the party in charge gets the vote. There’s where its wrong. Yes Barney Franks and Chris Dodd along with the democratic party who voted against Bush in 2006 when he said it needed fixing, that its going to crash, Franks & Dodd said to leave it alone. Guess who voted along with them, yes sir, it was our standing president, yet Bush was blamed. I was not a big Bush fan, but he nailed that right but he had the democrats to deal with as the were in control of both House & Senate. No punt at all to ya David. God bless.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @DavidLeoHeatherly    That’s all changing now, Bucko

    • JohnHart

      @DavidLeoHeatherly The divide between takers and makers was deliberately caused and is exploited to maintain it.  In other words the right and left are both deceived by ……… into maintaining ……’s power.  The solution is simple, eliminate the cause and things will get better.
       
      HOW?
       
      1. Recognize the need for ABSOLUTE limits on government.
      2. Establish a new form of governance in harmony with those limits.
       
      WHAT are the attributes of good government?
       
      1. PROVIDES only one thing,  a stable currency. NOT have a private unregulated bank do it!
      2. PROTECTS property and rights are the property of individuals. NOT the state!
           a. Public property is NOT state property!
      3. PROMOTES welfare by giving credit to those that do. NOT provide it!
       
      4. Does NOT take on the attributes of religion by enforcing morality and providing charity. That is the establishment of religion.
       
      These are the principles the founding fathers based the Constitution on. The document needs to be resurrected and re-established as the foundation for ALL of our laws.

      • Tony Ruiz

        @JohnHart  @DavidLeoHeatherly      Have you seen the TV show “Revolution”?  It’s here.

      • chamuiel

        @JohnHart  @DavidLeoHeatherly And defend the country. That is all our original Government was supposed to do.  That and to guarantee each of us the right to pursuit of wealth and happiness. Only the pursuit, of it did not guarantee that each of us would achieve those things.

    • KarlMWilliams

      @DavidLeoHeatherly
       Here’s a tip.  DON’T have kids if you cannot afford to raise them yourself.  When you accept the scraps from the puppetmaster you have string upon your future.

  • http://aol.com/ shell holston

    Clearly from step 7 into 8 started back in the 60’s, or before, when we started in earnest and with deliberation to remove GOD from all aspects of our lives. Now HE is probably answering our prayers by saying, “You brought this on yourselves when you banished me from your lives!” Now we are suffering the storms, tsunamis, tornados, as well as illegal actions by a narcissistic president and self indulgent government, including the courts. There are no such entities as “elected servants!”  People who really care that this nation may fold as long as they get “theirs” until there is no more! GOD, I beg you to, once again, BLESS AMERICA, please!

  • LibertySpeaks

    Pray that God will remove the unjust politicians. http://www.faithwriters.com/article-details.php?id=152499

    • thethinman

      @LibertySpeaks “GOD” isn’t going to do anything – God helps those that help themselves – if you DEPEND on God to do anything – you are lost.

      • http://www.daaymfg.com/ Carl Dixon

        @thethinman  @LibertySpeaks I’ve yet to find in the Bible this statement, but God will allow us the chose which way we desire, and we will find either mercy or justice. In the choosing of this president merely puts us closer to the back of the book, Remember, Israel wanted a king so they could be as the other nations, this choice of leadership takes away protection of that Almighty hand we need most. Carl Dixon

      • Tony Ruiz

        @thethinman  @LibertySpeaks    You’d be in a very sad state of mind if you had one. I hope you find God in the middle of your life while there’s still time.

    • RivahMitch

      @LibertySpeaks Sorry, but, as Ben Franklin said “God helps those who help themselves.” It’s fine to ask him for help but don’t ask him to do our job.

      • Tony Ruiz

        @RivahMitch  @LibertySpeaks   Ben can’t help us, but God can and will if we only ask

    • wayno

      @LibertySpeaks  NO ! GOD will not. He leaves it up to US. what do you think HE is? on call for trivial stuff? Can you manage the Moon and the sun? doubtful;.
      God probably says’ I didn’t create that mess, YOU did – you fix it’

      • Tony Ruiz

        @LibertySpeaks    Liberty, you would do well to read the Word and learn what the Boss of all really says about this and everything else

        • chamuiel

          @Tony Ruiz  O.K. Tony, I will bite. What does God say about saving the U.S., and when will he do it?  In the Bible God says many will be persecuted in his name, and even put to death. No where in the Bible does God say he will ride in on a white horse, save the U.S., and make all Republicans happy. Absolutely nowhere. We have a lot more persecution to go through before Jesus returns.

      • chamuiel

        @LibertySpeaks Pretty much agree. We lose the election, so many of us say God will make it all better. I do not think so. I think GOD will let it get much worse. He let it get worse for the Jews to the point their country was over ran in the bible, and many of them were put to death, and the rest carried off into slavery. Why do so many think GOD wants to save the U.S., and for what?

    • Tony Ruiz

      @LibertySpeaks    Geez, that’s just about ALL of them, starting at the top. Gee I hope nothing happens to the top two guys

    • chamuiel

      @LibertySpeaks God is not goig to remove the unjust politicians. He is the one who allowed them to be elected. I don’t know what his plan is, but he did allow them to be elected

  • DennyB

    Doc39
     
    I couldn’t agree withyour ost more regarding he voting.

  • Normal_Guy

    An extremely disappointing election to be sure, but there may be one last chance. If the economy goes into another recession/depression, then maybe there will be sufficient buyer’s remorse to take the senate in two years, and the white after that. I realize there are many ways that Obama and the enabling communists can work their destructive agenda, and they will be working, but they will need some ecomonic success to keep a majority.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Normal_Guy    It’s Biblical but I’m surprised at how quickly it came

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Normal_Guy    It’s Bliblical

    • chamuiel

      @Normal_Guy No Obama only needs the givers to keep giving, and the takers to keep taking. He can always print more money.

  • Man Mountain Mike

    chamuiel said
    @Man Mountain Mike And both sides say GOD is on their side. Who is correct?

    Before the foundations of this world, God granted mankind “Agency” . . . . . both sides of the aisle have exercised their agency . . . . .
    The answer is simple . . . . God abhors evil and blesses the righteous.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Man Mountain Mike  @Man    That is correct

    • chamuiel

      @Man Mountain Mike  @Man And we believe we are right, and the other side believes they are right.  Who does God say is right? I haven’t heard his opinion lately. Personally I don’t think God cares what type of Government we have. A government cannot legislate what is in a persons mind.

  • Arlo

    I suggest that for the next six months we all make a concious effort to not purchase any unnecessary goods and services in this country.  Since the success of our economy depends on the consumers buying products, we should decide not to.  If we all banned together and did that, then those individuals who voted for Obama will see just how important it is that all Americans work together and earn their own way.  I for one am sick and tired of having my hard earned success be taken from me to give to anyone else without my consent!  Boycott goods and services for six months and lets see how much negotiating power we can give to the Republicans in the House of Representatives!!!

    • Stan Lee

      I agree with the boycott premise, I have been doing so for the 5th year now, mainly concerning  the media in TV, and newspapers. I do not use NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, or PBS for any news or commentary. Most of them live by advertising income, Fox News has taken much of the audiences who prior to Fox News tuned to the liberal networks and suffered through them. The same goes for newspapers and periodicals. In my case, I haven’t read a Phila. newspaper for that five years so far, I subscribe to the Wall St. Journal. Periodicdicals: There are enough good, conservative, periodicals to enable any individual from never again reading any leftist magazine. Wasn’t it one of the liberal magazines, a long-standing one, that was purchased for one dollar? Its business had so deteriorated! Not many leftists read, they usually react to headlines…it’s the conservatives who’re far more informed. Patronize conservative media, boycott the leftist media. There’s no reason not to!
      Sports events are the only ones I make exception for, if more people boycotted, the leftist networks would readily see, by the differences of sports event viewing to news media viewing, how much income they’re losing by their one-track politics.

      • JohnSprinklebumj

        @Stan Lee I too agree about the incredible liberal bias in “destorting” the news by CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS.  My solution was fairly simple.  I turned OFF my AT&T phone service, got a service that provided phone, TV channels (LOTS!), including Fox, and a DSL line for where I live.  Ironically, all this cost me LESS than the AT&T line and DSL I currently pay.  My sense is these are no longer news organizations and generally use very “loaded” terms to describe anything conservative or Republican, they are mouthpieces for the owners of the organizations and fully used that way.  It is not only important, in my view, when and how the news is reported, and the content, it is even more important sometimes what the broadcast news does NOT report.  Frankly, I am damned tired of all the news that is left out, important and timely to me.  Moreover, these 4 years-at-a-time commercials broadcasting the virtues of the Messiah in Washington make me want to barf.  This travesty is no longer journalism, it is newsspeak and the Ministry of Truth has no truth in them.  Broadcast Media, the New York Times and others have become political tabloids.  My solution is simply remove them from my media diet and get a variety of more reliable information from better sources.  If a person expects reliable, accurate, balanced and complete news from the majority of news sources today, they will be greatly disappointed.  Stan Lee, I agree with your media assessment and find it refreshing to actually read about what is going on in our republic.  For those old enough to remember, this news media tripe properly belongs in a can, and labeled “spam”.  Anyone with a brain has got to be insulted by this abuse of our airwaves and newsprint.  Enough is enough.

    • JohnHart

      Probably a good idea in any case to defer spending and convert cash into hard assets that won’t be eroded by inflation. When gas hits eight dollars the last thing I’d want is to be making payments on an expensive new car.

    • Tony Ruiz

      Yes I agree

    • MawMaw

      My family has not bought anything except essentials in 4 years.  My son-in-law lost his job 5 years ago and we are now living the Walton dream.  I am 69 and my husband 72 and we are working almost full time and our kids are doing the best they can, he can’t get a job because he made alot of money at his job and nobody wants to hire him because they are afraid if they do and he finds something else that pays more he will leave, so it is round and round we go, he can’t even get a job at Food Lion!….we are dying on the vine here and nobody seems to care.

  • TIME

    Dear People,
     
    Forgive the mindless sheep who live among us, ~  { for their ignorane is our very own doing,}  we let our guard down long ago. Thus what can one ~ expect as a result from the reckless behavior of all People living on the land known as America.
     
    You nor any American is really part of what you think is real,  we are all ~ SLAVES to the “Global Centeral Bankers”  world ~ as they also own all of the ” Mass Media”  {as in ALL OF IT.}
     There is not one single network,  {  if you think I am pulling your leg,}   then prove me wrong.
    What you will find if you follow the path ~ is that in 1983,  the ACLU went to Congress to break up what was then 50 different owners of the Mass media.   But what resulted was by 1993 that number of 50 fallen to – 30 odd owners,  Then by 2003 that number fallen yet again to 18,  and by 2005 that number fallen to just 6.
     The Base intel that is used by all of them as in the { AP, UP, UPI,}  etc. are all owne by just two familys who are “CENTRAL BANKERS” who also own the Federal reserve Bank.
     
    It was in 1840 –  in what was then known as the “United States of AMERICA”  we had a massive push to  “CENETRLIZED ~ Government” . That was the start of the FALL of this nation.  Then in 1861 the Union of States was broken,  by what many of you were calling for in 2008, after Barry Obama was elected ~ a CON – CON,
    Thus Lincoln was no longer a POTUS,  we no longer had a Congress  and the nation was no longer.
     Lincoln signed an EO that allowed him to rebuild  ~ { a –  nation }  not the same one you all think was started way back in 1770;s   ~  but a totaly new one. 
    That was all done under Martial RULE, ~  of what went to Martial Law and we have been living under this platform tho  not in its most sever format,  but its still intact non the less.
    Now think ~ when you fly what level of alledged Threat are we under?   Get it?  Yellow, Orange, Red sound nice right its like M&M’s just with a not so nice twist. Then add in the PA, and then the NDAA, and what you have is a TRAP ~ Set baited and ready for the Fox. 
     
    Then in 1878, the dye was set for what we face today by what is noted as the “District of Columbia Act”  making a “City State”  of the afore noted.   Thus what the vast amount of Americans failed to understand when Barry Obama was elected in 2008 after telling you all he was a ” Constituinal Scholar”   He knew all of what I just told you.
     
    Saddly your mass media will never tell you any form of TRUTH on this topic or any other topic really ~ please go back to what I just posted for the reason why.
     
    So ~ what have you?  Well we have a Mild ~ Dictatorship,   I will admit its not the classic platform such as Adolf Hitler’s style,  but non the less thats what we have and have had since 1878.  It was moved even more so into this format in 1913 – 
    ** Please read or look into { Eustace Mullins}  for details on this and all the events that unfolded after the Federal reserve Act,  as well  the IRS Act,
     
    So ~ what can we all do now?
     
     Look we don’t have a divide within this nation, we are “fractured”  thats beyond repair,   thats quite obvious to anyone who will really look at the base FACTS.   Well ~ it was written by Thomas Jefferson ,  I don’t think I need explain it to anyone who understands what his intent was by his statment,
    { At Times the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed. }
     
    So ~ this leaves very few viens to explore,   Anyway you split the pie, its not going to be easy, nor clean.
    As the nation  sits now, it will be  – RULED by the “United Nations”  Treaty’s and very soon, also known as the “New World Order.” / One World Government.  
    Thus you will loose all Internet sights that allow any form of complaints against this “Criminal” Rule we have been under for years.
    The 2nd Amendment will be a thing of the past – and quite soon,  as Barry Obama will use what he will call a “MANDATE” by way of EO ~ to bring about such,   my quess is this will unfold by the end of 2013.
     It will start with clips, then some types of guns,  then ammo,  and then the all out assult on all guns of any kind.
    And it could just go straight out of the box a Full Ban on all at once,  I don’t have crystal ball, but can read the writing on the wall its really quite clear to anyone who dares to look.
     
    Keep in mind this is what they teach at – West Point as well all Military schools and also have been teaching for years now that all Guns must be taken away from the American people – thats all thats holding them back, 
    It’s also in all US Military Training Manuals, as well as FEMA, – Home Land Security, let alone the new HLS ~ Troops being trained as you read this, ~  think I am pulling your leg?   Prove me wrong – you will find you can’t.  
     
    Now are the Billion’s of  round’s of Hollow Point ammo that your De Facto Gov is buying starting to come clear yet?    These are for use on YOU the American people!  
    This is not a GAME,   This is the real deal – its now ~ hour 11:59  and clicking away very fast.
     
    Thanks for your TIME;   May Our Beautiful Christ Bless your Home and Family with Peace and Love

    • JeffReuteler

      @TIME Why would Federal Government waste money purchasing ammo when they could get it much easier from the Fedral Armory at Rock Island.  They still manufacture and make ammo there.  Just a question.

      • wayno

        @JeffReuteler  @TIME  They can’t make it to the spcs required by osha, fema, epa, etc, etc, etc.
        and btw it is the contract for a myriad of federal agencies. they dont use practice ammo, they use th real thing for training and practice. it costs a TON more that way, but they figure – so what – it’s taxpayer money

      • Save this Nation

        @JeffReuteler  @TIME
         Good comments Wayno but here is another one for JeffReuteler:
         
        The Fed Armory can’t make it fast enough to meet the desires of the Feds. Why do they need it fast you ask? Because they have been gearing up for the past 3 years (actually further back than this but now it is at an accelerated pace) for war with the American People. I know this sounds crazy but If you’ve seen what I’ve seen you wouldn’t be laughing right now. You need to go to http://www.prisonplanet.tv, get youself a very afordable membership and begin to watch their online documentaries and start listening religiosly to their daily broadcast. Host is Alex Jones and he isn’t the only one out there giving everyone the cutting edge news that you won’t see on mainstream tv/radio. He is however, one of the central Hubs of the patriots that are out in the field reporting the news along with credible wistle blowers in senstive areas of the govt along with military and police that have been through the drills/received the training for civil insurrection. I personally worked on a project (among others) about two years ago where the DC govt was designing mobile communication centers that could quickly be deployed around the DC Metro area in the event of civil insurrection. IT IS CLEAR THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING FOR THIS FOR MANY YEARS. Alex Jones references all the govt documents and exective orders that apply on every thing he talks about on his show.
         
        Good luck. Be sure you can protect yourself, your family, have storeable food, and gold/silver because when everything collapses, you won’t be able to just go out and use your worthless paper money to buy anything. Additionally as you all have seen with NY/NJ for the storm, expect the power to go out and stay out. It only takes 3 days with no power before people loose their minds.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Save this Nation  @JeffReuteler  @TIME    That would be lose their minds, not loose. Well, maybe that too.

        • Save this Nation

          @Tony Ruiz  @JeffReuteler  @TIME
           Thanks for the correction Tony.

        • chamuiel

          @Save this Nation  @JeffReuteler  @TIME I went 14 days after Hurricane Ike, and I did not loose my mind.

        • Save this Nation

          @chamuiel  @JeffReuteler  @TIME
           Well then chamuiel, congradulations to you for not being a victim of domestication like the other half of the nation. If you lived in a rural area when experienced a two week power outage then you not have experience true marshall law like we did in the aftermath of Wilma which came complete with the police state curfews (don’t really care if I spelled that correctly or not), limits on fuel you could buy, store shelves cleaned out with no food, and the rest of the marshal law buttet served over the 3 weeks. I was prepared and lived like a king. Others didn’t fair too well. I noticed that the general latino population did very well surviving with little to no resources probably because this was their normal way of life where they came from. The domesticated New Yorkers and NJ folk that were down here at the time buckled and cried like babies. Don’t be offended New Yorkers, I’m sure there are exceptions there. It’s just a generalization which probably isn’t politcally correct so lets all just grow up and face it. City dwellers need to learn how to hunt and skin a buck so they too can earn their read blooded american certificate.
           
          Good night all.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @TIME   Yes, and God bless you too my friend. I’ll see you there.

  • Kissitgoodbye

    Don 39…. Not real big on the unions. Our schools are a mess because of them. Guess who they vote for and give their money to? The Dems. They are teaching Globalism in our schools. If you doubt it, read B. K. Eakman . She spells it all out with proof, not speculation.
    BTW…I don’t smoke anything, but maybe it would numb the pain of what is in store for our country at the hands of our own. The goal is to destroy us from the inside. Looks like we are on that path.

    • KarlMWilliams

      @KissitgoodbyeI am beginning to understand why the Russians drink so much vodka.  Pass the bottle, please.

    • Mjritter

      @Kissitgoodbye maybe you forgot that this is the 21st century?? We do live in a global society. One of the problems right now with our economy is that we are the second larger export nation in the world and that has serious complications with our economy. I would also point out that travel has expanded substantially over the last 20 years. Communications has mushroomed from where it was costly to call some one 30 miles away, to where we are chatting with video with people all over the globe from England, to China and Australia for free… The world evolves and grows. You can with embrace it or complain about it, but it still evolves. And blaming the teachers only shows your ignorance. Larger class sizes do not make for good students. I would also point out that the vast majority of teachers do not make that much money, and put in a lot of free time. Most people here are fairly ignorant and couldn’t come close to understanding much of what’s taught today. We see where in Texas they tried to minimize the importance of Thomas Jefferson to teach some “made up history.” Maybe people here need to look into the mirror and see just how warped their views truly are..

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Kissitgoodbye    Ritter, you’re dead meat because you’re dumb meat. Going dark now in about 10 minutes so don’t bother; what you think you know will kill you and your family. Good luck with that.

      • Kissitgoodbye

        @Mjritter I know exactly what century we live in. Talking down to me doesn’t make you more legitimate. I am sick of hearing about how little teachers make. They do pretty well, considering they work from Sept. to June. They get free continuing Ed on the taxpayer dime, so they can increase their salary, not necessarily to benefit their students. Their benefits are better than most. I don’t want the UN in charge of my destiny. I don’t blame the teachers. I blame the “blob” the system has become. Unaccoutable and Untouchable. They have sacred cow status that is undeserved. We spend more on education than any other country, yet our results are abysmal. Parents are viewed as breeders and feeders. Sorry… I view this as being part of the problem. As the head of one Union so bluntly, but honestly put it… “This is about power not children”. Don’t try to use the Delphi Method onme. That only works at School Board Meetings, where outcomes are pre-determined. BO likes the Delphi Technique like he loves Saul Alinsky.

      • chamuiel

        @MjritterDelusional. and lies well too. No one in Texas refused to teach about Thomas Jefferson. Where do you come up with this crap? We do in Texas Schools try to teach the truth, unlike what they teach in liberal northern schools. They are more concerned with teaching social justice, than actual history.
         
        Teachers only work 180 days out of the year, and fer that they receive 45k – 75 k, even more if you include benefits.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @ chamuiel, @ Mjritter, @ Kissitgoodbye  Maybe my daughter teaches in the wrong State, but she has not had a raise in several years. Her Summers, Weekends, Holidays and Evenings are spent grading papers, working on lesson plans, IEP’s for each individual student assigned to her, contacting parents as needed (some on at least a daily basis), sponsoring a community service activity for her students, serving as Dept Head of her Department (Special Education – Resource – Selff Contained), tutoring several students before and after school as well as during her “planning period” during school hours, chaperoning afterschool activities and sporting events, as well as providing educational hours for homebound students. She has been verbally “abused” by students, had to step in between fighting students, spit on, strabbed by a student with a pencil, “propositioned” by students and threatened by students. She has provided, out of her own pocket,  lunch money, snacks, personal hygiene supplies, clothing, tampoons, money to cover the cost of field trips, etc for “needy” or “forgetful” students and even basic school supplies (paper, pencils, notebooks, etc. for students And then a couple of weeks ago she had an irrate mother come to the school to “Kick her ASS” becuse she was requesting the mother attend a teacher/parent confference because the 15 year 8th grader (recent transfer from another school across town) could not read on a 3rd grade level and she was not going to pass him (promote him) although the previous schools had “placed”  him the previous 5 years. Students are required to be in shool 180 days, teachers actually work many more.

  • http://aol.com jean1000

    This election was sad – so many people voted based on the basis of “what’s in it for me”.  What I’m worried about now, more than anything, is the elimination of term limits.  obama’s supporters could demand that.  Puerto Rico could become a (very grateful) state, millions in our country who are here illegally will be given amnesty, and there will be many more obama mamas added to the welfare system because they know they’ll be taken care of, and guess who they’ll all vote for.

    • Mjritter

      @jean1000 go take your medication and seek counseling. Your post is one of sheer lunacy. Term limits??? Whose? The only federally elected person with term limits is the president and it took a constitutional amendment for that. Most of the rest (excluding Puerto Rico) is just sheer ignorance.

      • chamuiel

        @Mjritter  Yep, definitely not too bright.

    • Independentrd

      @jean1000 Puerto Rico didn’t want to become a state.  They had no reason to become a state.  They had all the privileges with little of the downside.  They voted it out many times, but each new time they narrowed the choices and selected the wording so their voters ended up with less and less choice.

  • http://[email protected] egoroff

    A majority of the turkeys in the barnyard were persuaded to vote in favor of maintaining all the Thanksgiving traditions in exchange for the farmer’s promise to continue providing them with free food & housing.
    This event does not tell us anything new about the farmer, but it tells a lot about the intelligence and capacity for self-government of the turkeys — which is no longer functional.
    As history teaches us, that which becomes dysfunctional is — and soon will be — discarded.

    • Mjritter

      @egoroff good point.. And the Republican Party with their anti-American attitudes are becoming irrelevant…

      • chamuiel

        @Mjritter  He was not talking about the Republican party. He was talking about the overwhelming stupidity of the American voters. In other words they are cutting their own throats for three hots and a cot. Not too bright are you?

  • NavyJR

    @Daniel Watlland:  I never said we don’t need reform and cost reduction; we DO; but Obamacare  is NOT the solution; it’s just an exacerbation of the problem!

  • NavyJR

    @ Daniel Watland:  Deadbeat Dads and Moms alike are a part of the problem; but a much larger chunk is the “entitlement” generation and the ILLEGALS here scamming our system and STEALING from  us all!

    • Mjritter

      @NavyJR no, the bigger problem is people like you and it’s a good thing your numbers are shrinking

    • Independentrd

      @NavyJR It’s the entitlement *Generations*, the illegals, and those college graduates who believed the socialist and anti-government doctrine being taught in our schools (from grades through college) today.  … Don’t expect the level of medical care we’ve become used to after Obamacare is implemented, and if you are a senior needing advanced treatment, they’ve already admitted the government (a panel) will decide if you are worth the investment.

      • NavyJR

        @Independentrd I knew that before the bill was passed, never mind signed into law!  I was a nurse; and enough had leaked out that I knew that monstrosity had NOTHING WHATEVER to do with “health care”!  I knew Palin was right when she spoke of death panels, and much more.  I  saw doctors and hospitals/clinics already closing their doors to seniors, changing specialties, changing professions retiring early, and /or moving out of the county, and hospitals told they’d not be permitted to treat medicare/medicaid patients because they’re “doctor owned” etc.  The full scope of just the MEDICAL aspects of this nightmare have yet to begin to be seen!  All that women’s health care that so many voted for is NON-EXISTENT.  mammograms and other cancer screenings will not be covered or only during certain stages of a woman’s life; but not generally when she MOST needs them,, and treatment won’t be there in any case so why worry about screenings?  You men won’t be exempted either…  Generally speaking if you’re under 2 or over 50, FORGET anything but palliative care for EVERYTHING!

  • NavyJR

    @John Hart: You’re welcome; we do hear you, at least some of us…

  • Tony Ruiz

    Turn out the lights. We’re going to have to tone down all our statements because things, they are a changin’ and we no longer have the ‘United’ states of america. It is not the ‘States of America’ and that’s about it. The government is our enemy, along with black and browns who hate us and Israel. These are the end times we’ve been hearing about. We’re done, turn us over. It’s right at that time when we go underground to fight another day from there, something like a current TV series. Amazing, these last days. Here they are. Don’t just sit back and wait because it will overtake you and someone will be knocking at your front door asking about weapons, ammunition, religious and political affiliations to be noted, and even possibly hauled off to one of the many camps that have been been being prepared for this day. For this time. We have just lost all our forefathers worked and suffered for centuries ago. It’s over. I’m not a doomsdayer but I AM a planner, a realist, and a Believer. But actually, I’m a Knower. God bless you all. I’ll be signing off this site but can be reached for the time being by direct email tony at commspeed dot net.

  • Tony Ruiz

    Turn out the lights. We’re going to have to tone down all our statements because things, they are a changin’ and we no longer have the ‘United’ states of america. It is now the ‘States of America’ and that’s about it. The government is our enemy, along with black and browns who hate us and Israel. These are the end times we’ve been hearing about. We’re done, turn us over. It’s right at that time when we go underground to fight another day from there, something like a current TV series. Amazing, these last days. Here they are. Don’t just sit back and wait because it will overtake you and someone will be knocking at your front door asking about weapons, ammunition, religious and political affiliations to be noted, and even possibly hauled off to one of the many camps that have been been being prepared for this day. For this time. We have just lost all our forefathers worked and suffered for centuries ago. It’s over. I’m not a doomsdayer but I AM a planner, a realist, and a Believer. But actually, I’m a Knower. God bless you all. I’ll be signing off this site but can be reached for the time being by direct email tony at commspeed dot net.

    • Mjritter

      @Tony Ruiz it’s comments like these that are the problem. Your post is one of sheer lunacy. Maybe it’s you that’s the problem. You can’t well your hate for the United States, people aren’t buying it. You vision of America has never been reality, just what you thought it was. The craziness of your comments.. Hatred of Israel??? Again, you’re out in right-field somewhere.. Not the case.. But remember, Israel is not the US and our wants and needs is not theirs. Remember, we have one of their spies in prison. I would also point out that they murdered our sailors (USS Liberty). Are these the acts of an ally? I think not..

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Tony    Well Ritter, you’re wrong. That’s what was said about all the historical bell weathers, and I’ve been at least as good an American as you. But you’re stupider than first thought because you don’t know we’re not Israel’s last best hope…THEY ARE OURS!

      • Independentrd

        @Mjritter  @Tony One of us sure misread his statements. I understood Miritter to say the opposite of what you read.

  • masterjorg

    Our system of government was not meant to work with an amoral citizenry.  Redistribution is theft.  Abortion is murder.  Ominous debt is amoral.  Homosexual marriage?  A majority of Americans just voted to condone all of the above.  It appears to me that we have reached the tipping point of immorality.  In the end times they will call evil good and good evil.  What this country needs is not just better candidates with better lines, it needs repentance and a turning back to God.  Our national sin stinks to high heaven and we cannot expect God to bless this country when more of us than not choose immorality.  He is just and it’s His call.  Maybe it will take a complete collapse and loss of all of our freedoms to see the full error of our folly. But repentance is must.  We will see.

    • Dulceb

      I don’t think it could be said better. The media owes Romney an apology. He said 47% of the population would not take responsibility for themselves. He missed it by 3 %, but he hit the point on the head.
      50% would prefer a handout and immorality to self respect and morality. They prefer their special interests to be treated better than everyone else to doing what is right.
      I am ashamed of this type of American.
      God will deliver selective judgement to the wicked. He will not forget or abandon those who call on His name, but he will punish those who refuse Him. Often times, he allows them to bring about their own punishment.
      Actions are needed not words. Works, not words are the key.
      The 50% that want to see America proud, moral and independant need to pray without ceasing.
      We are living under the reprobate mind, and we will have to have His deliverance.

      • chamuiel

        @Dulceb 47% percent will not take responsibility for them selves. The other 3% are their friends and family.

      • Evermyrtle

        @Dulceb Any time you try to outvote a greed, anti-GOD bunch of liberals, just you watch out, it cannot be done. While the people that work for a living have problems getting to the polls, these have all day and somebody stupid to go around, pick them up, haul the to the polls and take them back home, home free. I am not talking through my hat, I know of people who spend the entire day hauling these people back and forth, people who live off of taxpayers.

  • Mjritter

    The people here live in some sort of parallel universe. You missed the boat, and the last train is leaving soon. The Repubs have lost 5 out the last 6 popular votes for president. Even with all the negativity, the billions spent by the Koch’s, Adelson, and the Wall Streeter’s against Obama, and let us not forget super Pac’s like Crossroads GPS, etc.. And they still could sell it! I would also point out that Obama won with over 50% of the electorate twice! Even Reagan & Clinton can’t say that! And baby Bush lost the popular vote to Gore! The simple fact is, the Republican Party is the party of “no.” When in charge I. The early 2000’s they spent like “drunken sailors.” Then to have audacity to proclaim “fiscal responsibility” is the height of hypocrisy. As McConnell so eloquently stated, they were determined to make Obama a 1 term president.. And that was their dedicated goal.. not to make the US better, but play politics. Boehner and the House was in lockstep with this plan. The people are tired of the tea party terrorists and their obstructionist attitudes. Ask Joe Walsh or Allen West to name 2. They have cost the the republican control of the senate. With candidates like Mourdoch and Aiken, or the clown Mandel in Ohio.. Or forcing out people like Lugar or Mike Castle to name two, its the tea party that is making the Republican Party obsolete. The dem’s have their “Blue Dog.” They have conservatives and liberals, but at least they don’t “eat their own.” The demographics are changing. Where clowns like Aiken & Mourdoch are ignorant when it comes to women, most women agree that abortions should be legal in some cases. We see a sea change in attitudes with gay or equal marriage. The repeal of “Don’t ask, Don’t tell,” the military didn’t implode. People’s attitudes are changing. You either grow or die… and the Republican Party is becoming obsolete due to their own choosing. You can rant all you want, scream socialism, and ll the lunatic things you want but you’re just whistling into the wind. Maybe it’s time to actually join the 21st century and leave the 18th behind….

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Mjritter   You’re preaching to the choir, spitting in the wind. Better just watch your back like the rest of us. We are obsolete and our capital should be moved to Watts.

      • RivahMitch

        @Tony Ruiz  @Mjritter I hope you mean “capitol” rather than “capital”. I don’t dive a damn what they do with D.C. but, if and when they come for what little capital I have left, they’ll discover that this jarhead may be older, heavier and slower that in ‘Nam but is no less willing or able to kill or die and has much less to lose now than in my 20s. Semper Fi!

    • chamuiel

      @Mjritter  It seems to me you are nothing but another big spend Democrat. You do understand that eventually the gravy train runs out. Even my dog knows this,

    • Evermyrtle

      @Mjritter The problem here was that we only voted living people, and none of Obama’s vote came out as Romney’s. We allowed all the votes that Obama was supposed to get to go to him.

  • jypper

    You guys are the biggest group of fear mongers on the planet….be very afraid of our Kenyon socialist President……get over yourselves and work towards a better Democracy by supporting our President and help to encourage compromise and we will all benefit.  Obama wants entitlement reform and spending cuts just as the House does.  It is a matter of how to get there……Can the fear and work towards agreements.  After all we generally agree with most goals.  We just have different ideas of how to get there.  STOP THE HATE and be GOOD Citizens of  American, not this distorted 17th century version of Americans you pretend to be.

    • Desert Dude

      jypper – Obama wants entitlement reform? Since when? Name the entitlements that this president is willing to reform that actually reforms the entitlement and saves the taxpayers money. Has he ever made one suggestion of an entitlement that he would like to trim back?
       
      Leadership starts at the top, with the president. Taunting, challenging, and ignoring the other side is this presidents SOP. He does not know how to sit down and negotiate. No repubs were ever invited to the table in Obamacare, none were invited behind the closed doors as the “stimulus” package was developed. When Obama doesn’t get what he wants, he goes around the Congress and the Constitution and writes an executive order – a la his own “Dream Act”.
       
      jypper – If the president really wants spending cuts, he controls the executive branch that actually spends the money. Why hasn’t he written any spending cuts to the EPA? How about the Department of Education? He hasn’t written any EO’s for this because he doesn’t want to cut the budget.
       
      The more people this president gets dependent on welfare, the easier Dems can continue to win elections. That is, until they run out taxpayers money… Then, I hope you enjoy your living in the “new Greece”.
       
      As for being a 17th century American, I assume that you don’t want any 21st century versions of Benjamin Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, John Jay, John Madison…

      • Changa 77

        @Desert Dude Be careful what you as for. Look at what is going on over seas. Would you like a bomb at your front door. Have fear my friends it can happen. History has a way of repeating itself!

    • Tony Ruiz

      You are so full of shit. Go ahead, roll over, pull the blankets up over your head and relax and be swept up in it. You’re as good as gone, dead.  It’s people like you who will be crying out for mercy in the end times, ignorant to the fact that our God rules and is in charge. obama wants the destruction of our country and now he’s going to get his wish. There won’t be a white house anymore for a qualified next president because there won’t be either. Turn out the lights and smell the gunpowder.

      • Evermyrtle

        @Tony Ruiz  I am so afraid that you are exactly right. But HIS people will be safe with HIM.

        • Changa 77

          @Evermyrtle  @Tony Ruiz on his plane. You really should read what is on your computer!

      • gingerpye

        @Tony Ruiz Wow Tony you summed up everything in a nut shell. Listen up people get right or get left (behind) End times are here so make sure of where your going. I for one am picking non-smoking thank you!

    • chamuiel

      Do delusions run in your family, or are you the only one?  Where do you come up with this stuff? Seriously!

      • Tony Ruiz

        @chamuiel    My little ‘friend’, I have been a visionary and fairly intelligent man all my life. I’ve seen naysayers forever and you’re prolific throughout history. I won’t say another word but I will say I wish you luck…you’re going to need it

        • chamuiel

          @Tony Ruiz Well, Tony I have been a very intelligent man all my life. My Mensa membership proves it, and I would have to think you are not being realistic. God could care less what type of Government we have in this country, nor who is in charge of that Government. God will do what God will do in his own sweet time. Neither my thougths or your thoughts on the subject will change that. So, don’t be so freaking arrogant.
           
          God is in charge and he will take care of things his way in his time. You, nor I know that time. so quit trying to act like you know something no one else does. In Revelations, there is no mention of the U.S., no reference that one could conclude that references the U.S. Thus a reasonable intelligent man would have to think that the U.S. in the end times is no longer a force to be considered, that or it no longer exists. And that is exactly what is happening now.

        • gingerpye

          @chamuiel  @Tony Ruiz Chamuiel I beg to differ I believe God does care how we vote as the Bible clearly says we must pray for those who are in the Government. And also he cares about each and everyone of us and says to cast all our care upon Him. You might be right about no mention of the U.S. in Revelations most likely because we are in debt up to our ears and foreign countries own us. And we won’t be able to buy ourselves out of this debt  so kiss America goodbye.

    • Evermyrtle

      We are not afraid of your king, our KING rules over him. Our KING is eternal, HE rules the entire universe, even though HE has given us the right to rule for several thousand years, and we have made one colossal mess all over the world, a mess that our KING,  I believe will soon clean up.

    • vandance

      huuuummmmpppphhhh, pilgrim.  He has you brainwashed just as hitler had the masses brainwashed back in the 30’s !!

    • gingerpye

      Jypper Were not supposed to have a Kenyon socialist president. His policies haven’t worked in four years why would you think that they would start working all of a sudden? He will probably blame Bush for all his failures this next nightmarish second term, and somehow he will also run another term and another and another. I know there are term limits but i’ll bet he will get that changed somehow and wow it’ll be another history in the making imagine that………

  • Bob1939

    HOW TO LOSE A COUNTRY ! A great call indeed Frank Camp, except Congress is more than likely to surrender as they usually do (by doing nothing). It is quite clear to anyone who is interested that there is rampant fraud present in this 2012 election, just as there was in the 2008 election. We all know how the Democrat party does this (1) dead people voting, (2) voting numerous times, (3) pre-rigged machines, (4) denying our military vote, (5) losing ballots in Republican strongholds, (6) having Obama advertising murals within voting stations, (7) using Black Panther intimidation tactics, (8) chasing out Republican observers out so the Democrats can do their slight of hand, (9) keeping known Democrat areas open later, (10) allowing prisoners, felons and illegal aliens to vote and they are actually promoting these abuses and disallowing photo-ID, (11) allowing Al-Qaeda money along with money from all other known enemies of America to come in illegally to support Obama, (12) using tax payer dollars to support Democrat campaigns via stimulus monies to unions and failed Solyndra’s and back into the Democrats, (13) using phoney support groups to do the dirty work like ACORN by many other names too. IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH YET? AND WE TOLERATE THIS? 
     
    Common sense would dictate that if Democrat cheating and fraud is uncovered in any particular Ward, then the cheater should automatically lose that entire Ward. But that’s too sensible I suppose. If we don’t stand up and punish these crimes, then what are we going to do when the Hamas and the Muslim Brother invade us – just give-up???… what am I saying; THEY ARE ALREADY HERE, (just look at Obama’s cabinet) AND YES – SO FAR WE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN UP. Where is our BACK-BONE? where is our SPINE? where is our MILITARY?

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Bob1939    Our country is gone. The United States of America is in the past thanks to our illustrious congress. It allowed obama his evil place in history, and if that isn’t bad enough, the allowed it again. We had a chance but blew it because we allowed hollywood, an evil government and other evil people to run the show. But our congress is the guilty source of all our problems. Turn out the lights and go underground while you still can. That is going to change.

      • Evermyrtle

        @Tony Ruiz    Absolutely, there was a lot that could have done, I kept expecting some act out of them as different treasons were committed. They did nothing. It will come back to haunt them I am afraid.!

      • Changa 77

        @Tony Ruiz  @Bob1939 You arde so very right. Obama knows he done wrong. Did you get a look at the plane he has to get away on if things go wrong. It i a huge thing. Space for him his family plus. It was on my computer yesterday. How many of you seen i?I looked at the people on the floor when Obama came up after the win. Children just old enough to vote yet still have the mother’s milk  on their breath. They haven’t lived yet. After these up coming 4 years they well see how wrong they are. MyGrand daughter has voted for the first time she is in college. She was so happy to be able to vote for Obama. This the man that took 2 years of college away from her. She had a scharship 4 years, they took 2 away, she blamed Christie, oh I blame him for plenty but not that.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Changa 77  @Bob1939    Even my own daughter, who’s supposedly a Christian, supports obama. Now I KNOW she belongs to a cult…the Boston Church of Christ by Kip McKean.

        • gingerpye

          @Tony Ruiz  @Changa 77  @Bob1939 Wow that doesn’t suprise me some so called christians voted for Obummer because he is black can you believe it. Sorry but if you call yourself a Christian you don’t vote for the candidate that is for gay marriage abortion and spending taxpayer money on contraceptives and make Christian pay for these abominations and spend taxpayer money like it grows on trees.

    • NavyJR

      @Bob1939 Don’t forget the family pets who voted Dem too.  As to the rest, THEY voted Dem as well; except the military who didn’t get to vote at all!  Spine is no longer existent, it appears; and neither is leadership!

  • constitution man

    we have become a nation divided,thus it will not stand..the mooches believe that the payers will just continue to fork it over. They really do not think there could ever be another “cival” war. They have gotten so smug they think the payers will not fight. They are sooo wrong…

  • Warrior of Christ

    The reason why we can maintain conservatives in the house is because they are elected by districts.  If you look at the map of districts overlaid onto the map of counties that voted for the radically liberal Obama as opposed to the less liberal Romney you will see that the majority of districts voted for Romney.  To help the conservative cause when electing the next president all states need to send delegates to the electoral college based on districts instead of winner takes all.  Only Maine and Nebraska send delegates based on district voting.  Individual state gov’ts need to make this change.  A way to win back the Senate is to repeal the 17th amendment and return power back to the states.  Write to your state senators, state representatives, and your U.S. senator.

    • Mjritter

      @Warrior of Christ what a totally unAmerican attitude. Eliminate the electoral college wouldn’t help much as the Repubs have lost 5 out the last 6 popular votes. I would also point out that OBAMA has won 2 elections where he received over 50% of the popular vote. Even Clinton & Reagan can’t claim that. Gore beat Bush in the popular vote. As for your arguments about districts, many are gerrymandered to protect incumbents of the party in charge..

  • paulendes

    I Believe as Herman McCain said in 2008,” this country needs to come back to God” . What I say,just talk to Him.

    • Mjritter

      @paulendes Herman McCain??? You mean Herman Cain how true to run for the presidency and quickly became irrelevant? Who’s idea and plan belonged in the toilet? He couldn’t even sell it to the whacky far-right. His 15 min cane and went in 10!

  • Stan Lee

    Rush’s comment about the election loss were actually a few choice words, as follows:
    “It’s tough to win against Santa Claus.”

    • Mjritter

      @Stan Lee rush is laughing all the ways to the bank and making fools out of you!!! Of course that’s why most people can’t stand listening to that fat pig…

  • AlfromFl

    How do you convince someone to vote for a candidate that will take away some of your goodies?  It will have to get very bad in this next 4 year period to convince some of those who voted for Obama to vote for a republican.

    • Evermyrtle

      @AlfromFl Wheb Obama starts to fail, who are they going to blame? Themselves because they voted him into office. I am not worried I have someone much bigger that he is taking care of me. GOD THE FATHER AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST.

      • raynbene

        Sorry, but they are incapable of blaming themselves, or even their obamessiah, so my guess is they will blame conservative talk radio, Republican obstructionism, or anything which is unrelated to the actual cause of their problems and ‘misery’ ! !

    • Independentrd

      @AlfromFl  and remember that he is enlarging that number bit by bit…and it may become  substantially larger

    • arm32

      @AlfromFl I don’t  think you can convince them. I think they will stand in the street praising him even after they have lost everything. They will say it wasn’t his fault. They will blame those mean  rich conservatives.

    • gingerpye

      @AlfromFl Sorry AlfromFI But usually democrats vote democrat until they die. They would rather die that admit their wrong and even change parties like President Regan did. Yes he went from beging a democrat to a republican. I have always voted for the candidate who would help America and not just cater to these stupid minority groups like gays and lesbians and illegals. I always voted for the better candidate.

  • Evermyrtle

    We are going to seek GOD or we are going to go broke in any way that you look at it.

    • chamuiel

      @Evermyrtle We are going broke as a nation whether we seek God, or not.

      • Evermyrtle

        @chamuiel  @Evermyrtle   I am afraid you are correct . We have had it economically,  I mean in debt by trillions and  morally the hog pen is a nice clean place compared to the USA, and our GODLY state has 70% vanished, what else is there.

    • deanied

      @Evermyrtle
       I love God, but he gave this Earth to the Devil to do what he will to claim souls…so we the faithful have only our FAITH!  God can’t print money, but EVIL can!

    • Mjritter

      @Evermyrtle God answered millions of prayers and got Obama elected to a second term. He turned back Satan and the Koch Bros and their money, and all the crazies out there. True jubilation.

      • Mjritter

        That’s funny.. Under Geo Bush, the surplus was spent, he doubled the natl debt, and lost millions of jobs.. And you think Obama was bad…

        • chamuiel

          @Mjritter Hamstrung by a Democratic majority congress.

      • chamuiel

        @Mjritter  @Evermyrtle Mr Critter, you mean Allah then.

  • Bob1939

    Talk about “The Rise And Fall Of A Nation”, now with it being declared that Obama has his second term of Communist, Muslim corruption ahead of him, it becomes obvious that America is in serious decline. As a leader goes – so goes the nation. We have an illegal alien, un-vetted corrupt POTUS who hates America and will now be quite successfully in bring her down. We have an un-educated, entitlement society that is dumber than s***. We have a congress which allows crimes to occur without saying a word, i.e. mural ads of Obama on wall in voting room, Criminal Black Panthers activity outside voting booths, foreign funds donation from our enemies, uncontrolled/unchecked voter fraud. We have turned our backs on God and allow God to be removed from our lives everywhere, hence God (as He did warn us) has now turned his back on us. We are not only in rapid decline, but we are headed for some very serious hurt. We now are taking a fall from which there will no recovery. I guess we are getting that which we deserve, for not having corrected the situation earlier. I have tuned-off the worthless/useless news media and am now getting back to self-sufficiency and pioneering with God in my heart and mind (outside of the USA – thank you).

    • Mjritter

      @Bob1939 I love it when idiots put OBAMA in a category of being a Muslim and a communist! It only shows how ignorant one can be… It shows just hue little the about each. Btw, how many pictures have you seen Obama praying to Mecca? Please find just 1…

      • chamuiel

        @Mjritter  @Bob1939 In his book, “Dreams of my Father” Obama says If the political winds should blow ill against the muslims, I will stand with them.
         
        I am assuming here Mr critter that you have read the book, since you are a slavish folower of his.

  • Redmongo1

    Ben Raines where are you

  • Independentrd

    Obama has created, or made use of, the entitlement generations which includes not only the the newest generations, but a good portion of the seniors (ARRP supports him), the illegal aliens, AND the Unions. This is a horrendous number of people who are beholding to him and many to whom he owes favors such as the unions.  Be it greed or power he is approaching a number large enough to get him elected without the rest of us.
     
    One saving grace the number of states becoming “Right to Work states” which I believe is close to 40 (give or take)  When states become “right to work” union membership drops dramatically to a fraction of its former self, so the unions are going to pull out all the stops.
     
    Obama has to resort to executive order for his entitlement program expansion as well as for the illegal aliens.  He has screwed up bad, but maybe he’ll manage to get himself impeached on this term…maybe we might even make it to the Speaker of the house, but I ceased believing in miracles long ago.
     
    However those who are looking for God to save the country, remember that “God helps those who help themselves”. We will prevail or fail by our own hands. He will not do it for us.

    • Mjritter

      @Independentrd let us get the facts straight. The Dream Act passed the republican house. It also would have passed the Senate but of course most Senate votes need 60 to stop debate. There have been over 12,500 Executive orders since the Civil War with FDR issuing the most. Geo Bush issued more EO’s than Obama. Only 3 have been overturned by the Courts.

      • chamuiel

        @Mjritter MJcritter, where do you get your incorrect info from?
         
        FDR  executive orders. 1933-1945
        Obama 938 executive orders in less than 4 years
        George Bush Sr. 291 excutive orders in 4 years.
         
        And *sigh* remember obama now has four more years to wreck havoc.
         
        Please stop lying.

        • chamuiel

          @Mjritter 
           
          FdR 71 orders in 12 years.

    • gingerpye

      @Independentrd God doesn’t help those who help themselves. God helps those who ask for his help. Obummer get impeached you gotta be kidding where in history was any president impeached? Its a law that never has been used not even on Clinton who should have been impeached. Also the unions are mob run outfits they will never be run out of town.

      • chamuiel

        @gingerpye  @Independentrd Clinto was impeached by the House.
         
        In the Senate where they decide the punishment, they refused to do so.

    • chamuiel

      @Independentrd I am a Senior and I do not support obama. I am not a member of AARP. You love to stereotype people I see. Romney got almost 70% of the senior vote, so your assumptions are incorrect.

  • Redmongo1

    supposed to be illegal to buy votes. Stupid people sold their freedom for a phone.  Stupid people sold their souls for a trinket.

    • deanied

      @Redmongo1
       Ya got that right! They are zombies…nothing more!

      • gingerpye

        @deanied  @Redmongo1 So there really are zombies, who would have known.

        • chamuiel

          @gingerpye  @deanied  @Redmongo1 Some of them eat flesh.
           
          Gingerpye, in regard to your saying God care about who we vote for and then following up with in the Bible it says to pray for those in the Government.
           
          1: in the Bible it does say to pray for those in the Government.
          2: Before recent times, no one was allowed to vote for someone in Government. (I doubt seriously that God worries which way we vote, or what party we belong to.)
          3: The Bible says God gave us free will (That means if he is concerned about voting, we can vote for whoever we like, even if they are the wrong person.)
          4: I suspect he lets us have what ever type of Government and people in it that we choose.

        • Redmongo1

          @gingerpye  @deanied Who do you think vote for obama? Zombies!

  • vandance

    I agree with Bob1939…..turn off the wothless/useless news media. This newly elected clown has promised to reduce the deficit $4 Trillion over the next 10 years.  Now remember how much he added to the deficit in less than 4 years.  Do the math. He added $6 Trillion(+/-) in less than 4 years. 4 Trillion divided by 10 equals 400 Billion per year…… yet he added 1.6 Trillion per year or part of a year since January 2009.  This doesn’t even sound reasonable.  This Clown opens his mouth and out comes lies and deceit.  But the very people that he deceived voted him in for a 2nd term.  What are we missing here?

    • Mjritter

      @vandance actually he didnt add any. The deficit comes from Congress’ spending and failure to collect revenue. By law the president is requires to spend appropriations ( as ruled by the SCOTUS).

      • vandance

        @Mjritter  @vandance
         Oh, he had nothing to do with the STIMULUS MONEY ?

      • gingerpye

        @Mjritter  @vandance Sorry mjritter I know you put hope and faith in this guy but your party doesn’t want to create a budget spending plan just to keep raising the debt ceillng get it. He can stop this trillion dollar spending spree he just doesn’t want to. heck would you if you had a limitless credit card. especially if it wasn’t your money in the first place.

      • chamuiel

        @Mjritter  MJcritter, you have to be joking when you say obama did not add 6 trillion to the deficit. You do understand that he added more to the deficit by himself than all the Presidents together before him.  Wake up and smell the coffee and truth.

  • texayn

    Okay, hopefully you have all that vitriol out of your system, maybe you feel a little better. I understand post election blues…but please a little perspective! Those of you who identify yourselves as Christians, especially, this is the warfare you were born for. It is no coincidence that you are alive now, at this period in history living under the perfect circumstances to produce God’s perfect plan. If you’re waiting for some cosmic elevator to come deliver you from all of this, you’ve joined the wrong religion. God is trying to show Himself on the earth and He only has you to live through! Fascism on Steroids is about to be visited down on us all. The left is going to be hurt just like you are. Real Pain is coming once policies are enacted. Live His Life joyfully regardless of Muslim, Fascists, Islamonazis’, black panther domestic terrorists, political protection rackets and presidential confidence swindles. You are in this world not of it. This is your time to be Salt and Light. Try that with a little less fear and trembling please. Your God has not abandoned you, he’s arranged this trouble for you so that He can show Himself mighty. Really!

    • gingerpye

      @texayn Right on Texayn God is Sovereign and in Total complete control and Christianity is not a religion it is a relationship with this Sovereign God.

    • chamuiel

      @texayn That is what I keep trying to tell them, but they just keep saying pray, God will deliver us.

  • LoranCarlson

    Nope, this is not the last hope for America.  Obama will not change.  He is too arrogant.  He will fail and along with him This progressive liberalism.  We are racing towards that fiscal cliff everyone talks about.  There isn’t enough money anywhere.  Even if he confiscated every penny from the people who make over $250,000.00 per year, there still would not be enough money to help the debt or even the deficit.  Does anyone really think that Obama will restructure Medicare or Social Security so that they remain solvent?  Face it folks, Obama,Clinton and their style of progressive liberalism cannot sustain itself.  It will collapse.

    • deanied

      @LoranCarlson
       I totally agree! Can’t keep printing money & borrowing!  The FREEBY people will start riots if Bummer doesn’t pay them with his stash!  Sickening isn’t it! Unfortunately we’ll suffer too due to the ignorance and arrogance of the Obummer administration!

      • LoranCarlson

        @deanied Then will come the cleansing.  The nation will be ready for a good conservative small government leader.  In the meantime, stay safe and study our Constitution.  Study the Federalist Papers.  Take some courses.  There are way too many people who say gimme, gimme, gimme out there.  They are the ones who will riot.  They are the ones who will fall.  I’m a christian and I do believe that God is right here watching over us.  Be patient.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @LoranCarlson  @deanied   You’re right, He will, and we will be patient but will work very hard in the meantime to survive and even thrive if we can in the underground. Save your confederate money.

        • Mjritter

          @LoranCarlson @deanied god answered many people’s prayers and got Obama elected for a second term!!! Thank goodness

        • gingerpye

          @Mjritter  @LoranCarlson  @deanied Which God are you thanking? Wait till his muslim buddys take over and their god ali brings in shira law all the gays and lesbians better watch out cause heads are gonna roll!

        • Tag68

          @Mjritter – you know, if you had a brain you would be dangerous, but then again  you are just siimpleton sheeple lead around by the nose and by this charleten of a joke loser in the oval office.  You think that his being in that office gives YOU self esteem but it doesn’t – all it does is make you look stupid because you try to believe in a cheap fraud loser!  You cannot gain self esteem by the efforts of another, it has to come from YOU, and if you can’t cut the mustard, which, apparently, most of you cannot, then you have to live vicariously through obummer like it’s your own accomplishement.  NOT!!!!!

      • Mjritter

        @deanied @LoranCarlson your ignorance is showing. Let ‘s look at the facts. In early 2000’s republicans including “fiscal conservatives” took us to 2 wars, off budget, paid with BORROWED money. Then there was the TRILLION dollar drug deal, unfunded, paid with BORROWED money. The there was the HUGE tax cuts, unfunded, paid with BORROWED money. Yeah, that’s being fiscally responsible.. The best word to describe you is: hypocrite! BTW, did you bother to look at past history? During the Reagan recession, money was spent and the govt went on a hiring spree (which under Obama govt payroll has gone down). Hypocrisy is rampant on this board..

    • Mjritter

      @LoranCarlson ignorance must be bliss at your house. The “fiscal cliff” will not happen. If you think it will, I have a bridge in London to sell you. Maybe it’s time for you to join the real world…

      • gingerpye

        @Mjritter  @LoranCarlson Mjritter I think your ignorance is bliss in your own eyes. Your wonderful anointed one is gonna bring this country right off a fiscal cliff it started in 08. Everytime he flys in airforce one it costs taxpayers 250,00.00 and he jetsets to latenite talk shows the view golfing vacations and to all his hollywood cronies. I can’t believe you put up with his stupid sharade your just like him selfish and arogant.

    • gingerpye

      @LoranCarlson I just have to say Loran that the idiots that voted for him seem to believe everything he says and unfortunately thay seem to have come under his spell. And when he fails to come thru on all that he said would come true they will blame Bush as always and the Republican party and all the Obamanites will blindly follow their blind leader.

  • Quiet Patriot

    About the Benghazi “scandal”.  Many of you look old enough to remember this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
    Against the recommendation of his Secretary of Defense, Ronald the Righteous sent 241 Marines to Lebanon so they could be blown up in bed.  Where was the investigation of this utter failure of RR’s sacred responsibility to insure, as CIC, that our military moved on superior planning, intelligence, firepower and with sagacious leadership?  Give it up.  Benghazi is a dead end for those who think that Obama is somehow culpable.

    • Deodidact

      @Quiet Patriot

    • Deodidact

      @Quiet Patriot
       It is nothing but a scurrilous lie for you to suggest that Reagan sent 241 Marines to Lebanon “so they could be blown up in bed”.  You need a new screen name.  Yes Reagan sent them there, just like Obama sent those embassy personnel and their scant security forces to Libya.  The difference is that, unlike Obama, Reagan did not watch Americans being attacked on live feed video and then, after denying them requested combat support (which was literally circling overhead) go to bed.  That’s what Obama did.  Reagan would have never done that, and the Iranians knew it, which was why they released the hostages they took under that spineless idiot Jimmy Carter within 20 min of Reagan’s being sworn in to office.

      • Quiet Patriot

        @Deodidact Putting aside the question of whether that “live feed video watching” is a canard or not, since that technology did not exist in 1983 you are making quite a leap of faith to state so certainly what Reagan would have done.  The fact is that Weinberger was right and Reagan’s ill-advised decision to override him led to the pointless deaths of Marines.  Worse than pointless really , because that event and the ham handed way Reagan finally responded destroyed US credibility as a fair minded referee in the Middle East.

      • Mjritter

        @Deodidact @Quiet Patriot your facts are not only not correct but ridiculously illogical. Stop listening to Fake Noise for your news. We saw how wrong their pundits were with the election.

        • Tag68

          @Mjritter  You know, bubba, you are just a blind follower of the Pied Piper in black.  This election was a farce and a joke and obummer USED those poor latino’s and gays but they are too ignorant to realize it, just like YOU are.  The GOOD thing is at the end of these four years the bum is gone forever – never to return.  I’m hoping he’ll go onto a combat zone and stop on a land mine, but then again, no such luck because I’ll bet he is one royal coward!

      • gingerpye

        @Deodidact  @Quiet Patriot Excelent answer Regan had Kahones. I’m sure I didn’t spell that right but you get the jest. This Obummer in our White House Sucks and is the worst Commander in Chief ever!

        • Tony Ruiz

          @gingerpye  @Deodidact  @Quiet Patriot   He never was a commander. Your spelling is fine, we get it. But for future reference, it’s spelled cojones

    • myaphrodite

      Obama culpable?  You betcha!  He has been supplying arms to a foreign country and 4 Americans were killed by those very weapons.  That is called “treason” in my handbook of treason.  What does your handbook say? Treason is an offense by anyone, that is followed  by imprisonment, and possible execution.  Ya got any thoughts on that?  I didn’t think so.

      • Mjritter

        @myaphrodite actually you have no idea what treason is.. Do a little research. Your hatred and myopia is closing your brain… Maybe you need a bottle of Focus Factor..

        • gingerpye

          @Mjritter  @myaphrodite treason acts against one’s sovereign or nation. murder of specific social superiors such as a wife who murders her husband. Treason against king was high treason against lesser superior petty treason. a person who commits treason is a traitor. If you allow your un ambassadors to be murdered because of lack of leadership I would say that he is guilty of petty treason wouldn’t you?

        • myaphrodite

          @Mjritter  @myaphrodite Yellow police tape around the White House is in order.  It is clear that you certainly have no clue what treason is.  Obama should be executed for war crimes. Period.

      • gingerpye

        @myaphrodite Sorry but this guy got the popular vote duh. The American people haven’t screamed or hooted about anything he does because the leftest media cries out racist when ever he does anything wrong and they pretend that he is such a goodietooshoes perfect in everyway and hang on his every (lying) word.

      • DavidLeoHeatherly

        @myaphrodite You mean like when Reagan traded Iran arms for the Hostages in 1981? Or when he illegally armed the contra’s in  Nicaragua and by passed congressional approval for the arms?  Oliver North gets treated as a hero and he’s a felon and a traitor.

    • chamuiel

      @Quiet Patriot I remember it well.

  • LibertySpeaks

    I NEVER THOUGHT I’D SEE THE DAY
     
    I never thought I’d see the day
    Children not going out to play
    Carefree living not as all may
    Earned  money just flying away
    Working jobs not able to stay
    Mans retirement going array
    Inner hamlets in such decay
    Futures time in such a dismay
    Mankind just not allowed to pray
    The  good old life to see betray 
    The evil life having its full  way
    Righteous  living become decay
    Nothing left good for to say
    All mankind talking doomsday
    But to  mans faith  I say hooray
    Now good over evil is the heyday

    • gingerpye

      @LibertySpeaks Well said. No matter what happens God is on the throne!!!!!

  • Sal69

    America is finished. Obama will simply let all the illegals become citizens. There is no chance for a Republican ever again to win the White House.

    • MelbaSimmonsRowland

      @Sal69 So you are just giving up? Accepting whatever happens? With an attitude like that, you could be right….but only if the rest of us give up too.

      • chamuiel

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Sal69 I have seen their contract. In Houston, Tx Teachers are required to work 6 hours and 45 minute days. They work 180 days per year with Summer vacation, Holidays, and weekends off. This is in their contracts with the School District. The fricking School Cafeteria employees have to work 200 hundred days per year, and that too is in their contract.  Teachers are basically over paid, teach Social Justice, rather than any meaningful subjects, are unionized, and constantly cry for more money. As one Union Leader up north said “this is about power, it is not about the kids.”

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @chamuiel  @Sal69
           In my State, teachers are NOT unionized. They do have contrracts, but those contracts with the School Didstrict are much different from the contracts where you live. I know the hours and work my dauguhter puts in. I see it everyday……but then maybe she goes the extra mile. Maybe she just ccares too much about the kids she teaches.

      • chamuiel

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Sal69 Now some may volunteer their time, but that is not required, and is not in their contracts. As far as grading papers, that is what Tteacher Days” are for.

        • Mjritter

          @chamuiel @MelbaSimmonsRowland @Sal69 I guess I’m lucky that I live in one the best school districts in the US. Our teachers work more than the # of days the kids go to school (180). As far as grading papers on teachers work days… teachers here grade them like several days a week. They do work hard, more so than the idiots here give them credit for. Maybe it’s just Jealousy… Then again maybe I’m Prejudiced, I’ve been fortunate to have amazing teachers that thought, that inspired critical thinking, that went beyond what was just expected.. Maybe many here missed out…

        • chamuiel

          @Mjritter  @chamuiel  @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Sal69 I started School in 1951. The Union teachers of today cannot compare to the teachers of those days. One teacher of mine had me supervising the best reader group when I was six, while she took care of the other two reading groups. Once when I was 8, and members of the School board came through. The teacher at that time had me read from her College Chemistry book (remember I was only 8) and then had me explain to the Board members what th3e various weights assigned to the different minerals meant. No teacher teaches like that today. When ever the School Library was getting rid of old books, I got all of them when I was nine, about 150 books suitable for first graders through high School.  A Union Offiial up north has said regarding teacher unions just a few days ago, “This is about power, not the kids.”  And that is what I see in the Schools today. My fourteen year old Grand Daughter came home the other day, and said don’t vote foe Romney, he is going to get rid of food stamps and Social Security. When I asked her who told her that, she said her teacher, and I have to admit most of the teachers in the Houston area are black.
           
          Onc3e when my daughter and I went to pick up my Grand daughter from School for a Doctor’s appointment, we went to the School office and gave them my Grand Daughters name. They replied we have over 900 students on this campus, could you be more precise. My daughter looked right at the black lady in the office, and replied look for a well built, blue eyed blonde. She is probably the only one you have in this School. The lady said, oh she’s in gym this period, and told one of the student office workers to go get her.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @chamuiel  @Sal69
           Our teachers are required to do so many after school activites…it IS iin thier contract. Papers have to be graded every day.

        • MelbaSimmonsRowland

          @chamuiel  @Mjritter  @Sal69
           My granddaughter’s principal greets each child at the front door everymorning. He knows each of them by name (at least by the end of their 1st year at his school. I guess  we are lucky in that. Down here it is about the kids.

      • gingerpye

        @MelbaSimmonsRowland  @Sal69 I believe were just outnumbered not necessarly giving up. Some people voted for stupid reasons (I’m sure you know what they were) and some people don’t vote at all for other stupid reasons. Sal69 is probably right the Republicans will be no more they have too much of a what do you call that oh yea a moral compass!

    • Bob1939

      @Sal69 Plus you watch, he will release all of the GITMO prisoners and the Blind Sheik and mark my words before he exits office he gill grant amnesty to the Ft Hood Terrorist who is still getting his military pay. That’s how bad Liberals want to destroy America that we leave this Usurping Illegal Alien in the white house. HOW STUPID CAN WE BE?????

    • O_Rock

      @Sal69 You are wrong my friend.  If the hardworking illegals come, you have a base of conservatives to educate about the benefits of being your own boss, owning your own business, owning your own property.  The Progressives have been dumbing people down for a century.  They have been preaching and pushing reliance on the Government, not the individual. The leftwing victory has taken 100 years to get us to this point.  It is our fault because we never did anything really to develop conservative culture in the education system or the media like the Progressives had.

    • Bob1939

      @Sal69 Plus he will release all of the GITMO prisoners plus the Blind Sheik and mark my words, before he exits office he will grant amnesty to the Ft Hood Terrorist who is still getting his military pay. HOW STUPID ARE WE????? to allow this usurping illegal alien to totally ruin America – INTENTIONALLY.

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Bob1939  @Sal69   My friend, we know he is a muslim

        • Mjritter

          @Tony Ruiz @Bob1939 @Sal69 how many pictures have you seen of OBAMA praying to Mecca? It just show how little you know about Islam… Obama is as much a Muslim as you are

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @Bob1939  @Sal69   I’m sorry, blow it out your ass. What’s your IQ?

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @Bob1939  @Sal69   Are you one of those ‘picture’ people. Unnecessary. But you might consider paying attention if your attention deficit disorder permits. You’re outgunned and outmanned. Stay in your own sandbox and away from adults, OK?

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @Bob1939  @Sal69 
          Oh, you’re sorry alright. And my IQ’s higher than yours I can tell you from here on my perch high above commoners like you.

        • Deodidact

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @Bob1939  @Sal69
           I guess you’ve never seen Obama admit his Muslim faith out of his own mouth.  You are not as well informed as you fancy yourself.  See this interview clip with George Stephanopoulos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw . That is not just some kind of ‘slip’.  A person’s religious faith is such a core part of his identity that no such mistake is possible.  And George covered for him like a good little dhimmi.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Sal69   You are right about that. The republican party is finished, and that was my party. We failed.

      • gingerpye

        @Tony Ruiz  @Sal69 Hi Tony, people are like dumb sheep, they need the goodshepherd but they don’t want to be told that they cant do those things they want like gay marriages,smoking pot,abortion on demand (planned parenthood is a billion dollar a year industry)(don’t let people tell you other wise) and they seem to have more rights than us (God fearing Republicans.) Sorry if you don’t believe in God but its true! God is not a religion. We didn’t fail we were just outnumbered thats all.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @gingerpye  @Sal69    obama (satan) believes in God. But I KNOW God and He knows me personally; I accept Him and He accepted me! That means I’m a ‘believer’ but I prefer ‘knower’

        • Tony Ruiz

          @gingerpye  @Sal69  ‘Dumb’ sheep is redundant. I just call them sheep; I love them and all God’s creatures. ALL of them. Believe in God? I know Him on a personal basis…I’m saved. How about you?

        • Brabbie2002

          @Tony Ruiz @gingerpye @Sal69 I loved your reply to mjritter. That pompous ass has got to think that Odumbass is his personal messiah.

    • Deodidact

      @Sal69
       Sal, you may be right, but we do not know that you are right.  I am joining True the Vote, an organization that works to eliminate dead people and other improperly registered voters from the roles.  The sum of dead people registered to vote and illegals registered to vote is, according to numbers I’ve seen published, 3x the popular vote delta between Obama and Romney.  We don’t know how many ballots were cast in those people’s names, but it may have had an impact.  We must do what we can.  As long as we are still standing and have life and breath, there is still hope.

    • Deodidact

      @Sal69
       You may be right, Sal, but we do not know that yet.  I have joined True the Vote, and organization that does a bunch of things including researching voter registrations and notifying county election boards of the potentially fraudulent or obsolete ones [e.g., dead people].  While we have life and breath, we cannot despair and give up.

  • sagebrush6

    So, it’s now official — America has reached de Tocqueville’s tipping point: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.  It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.  From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.  The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”  In short: The takers now outnumber (and so can outvote) the makers.  And so, America’s decline has begun in earnest.  Now begins the rejoicing of those around the world who have so long envied and resented our freedom and success.

    • myaphrodite

      Sad and true.

    • gingerpye

      @sagebrush6 Well said sagebrush6 The lazy gimme gimme takers will eventually reap what they sow unfortunately we have to reap alongside them. Two hundred years I guess America’s time is up huh.Yes those countries who envied us just might pity us but I doubt it your probably right they are rejoicing.

      • Evermyrtle

        @gingerpye  @sagebrush6  That is the average time that every democracy has lasted, so I guess our time is up

    • Deodidact

      @sagebrush6
       We do have one hope, and that is that the idiots who have been trained to sit up and beg for their peanuts and the idiots who vote for crass group identity will some day wake up and smell the coffee.  Don’t count on it, but it is always possible, by the grace of God.  We can always pray for that outcome.  It may be that after Obama has separated us from our wealth with the efficiency of a combine harvester, that we will sober up and come to our senses.  That is an outcome worth praying for.  He is going to hurt us badly, but we deserve him and everything he does to us.  Not all of us deserve him, but nations stand or fall together, and a majority of our fellow citizens want the snake oil he’s selling.  May they choke on it, if that is what it will take to sober them up.

    • Dagohoy

      @sagebrush6
       Agreed! Let the Socialist Obama speed up the process of destroying this country. This way the fools who voted for Him realized their stupidity and start their own revolution to knock Him out. The pathway to Greece has Started.

    • chamuiel

      @sagebrush6 We are not a Democracy. We are a Republic.

      • NavyJR

        @chamuiel  @sagebrush6 We’re SUPPOSED to be a Constitutional Republic, the reality is that we’ve been a democracy since Lincoln first attacked the Constitution in his effort to “preserve the Union” and the Congress rewrote the Constitutional Amendments while incorporating Washington City into Washington, DC in 1871.  Now we’re officially a dictatorship as of Tuesday past!

  • O_Rock

    We can recover after they fail and devolve into Greece.  The best thing to get rid of the current crop of failures and turncoats that operate the Government now, is to let them fail so we don’t have to start a war to get them out.  Then we can remake it according to our founding documents.  We just have to survive until they have fallen.

    • Tony Ruiz

      Hear hear

  • guest

    What a uninformed idiot

    • Tony Ruiz

      What AN uninformed idiot

      • guest

        @Tony Ruiz What a comeback!

        • Tony Ruiz

          No insult intended, just trying to be cute…Geez, what could one expect…I’m of Mexican heritage/language and we’re poorty goood at englich

  • David McQueen

    Alexis de Tocqueville was apparently correct when he wrote that if the citizens learn they can vote themselves money from the treasury, it’s over.  I had always hoped he was wrong and that Barry Goldwater’s warning in “The Conscience of a Conservative” was hyperbole.  However, it seems both were correct.  A huge number of “Americans” want to not “live free” but “live for free”.  Obama is a symptom; the fools who put him in (and kept him in) office are the true enemy of the USA.

    • Mjritter

      @David McQueen please remember Goldwater believed in gays in the military and legalized drugs. Goldwater would not recognize the Republican Party today.

      • ScottTodd

        @Mjritter  @David  That was only after he married his second, commie-lib wife.

    • guest

      @David McQueen Yes we are! Fool!

    • Evermyrtle

      @David McQueen  It is legal now for the government to invade our checking accounts and take out money. We had better take it out and bury in  a jar or something because they can do that, what will keep them from coming into your house and robbing  you. Nothing is private property, in this day and age.

      • heepsibadasious

        @Evermyrtle  @David McQueen Oh, I forget about that part of the Obamacare agenda. Holy F. The access to your bank account part. And the seising of your medical records and placing them in the hands of government bureaucrats..God, we are so Ffed. What a stupid move voting this POS back into office…….. I’m pissed all over again.

      • Dawn unhappy american

        @Evermyrtle  @David McQueen I now live on surviving disabled spouse benefits thru the R/R. In all checks that come thru the government now have a 3/15/13 deadline that if you do not have a direct deposit acct. you will not receive any benefits there after. Another ploy for them to gain even more control over monies they did not work to earn. I truly believe that 98% of those in the government should be tried for Acts of Treason. And at the rate we are going they will be able to add War Crimes to their charges. Our country is split and we are about to have another civil war. And this will be what  bso wants How sad that Our country has let this evil man back into OUR WHITE HOUSE for another 4—What part of his  “” I’ve only just begun  Give me 4 more years to finish what I have started “” did the people not understand…..Stock up on ammo and food staples. You remember those crazy people in the woods with lots of guns- well they ain’t lookin so crazy now

  • AJK105

    Is there some way that we can demand the Military votes be counted?  I saw the briefing an Admiral gave to explain how difficult it is for the Navy to deliver ballots and then go back and get the filled in ballots.  It seems if you are in a very small ship as a Destroyer then you probably can’t land a helicopter and they use that pully thing we see in World War II movies.  He said, “Yes we still use that.”  Then they have to make sure they go back by that ship to collect up the balots.  After that it isn’t too hard to keep passing them to bigger and bigger ships until they can be flown back to the states.   However,  the states that they are going to have short timeframes that I guess are ok for civilians that live here in the states, but if you live overseas, or Military stationed on ships or bases the chance your ballot will get here on time is not a good chance.    We need this stopped.   I don’t know where to start to fix this.  Does anyone else?  Perhaps a lawyer to sue on their behalf.

  • Tag68

    There are two things in this world you cannot defeat – one is poverty and the other is stupidity!  Now, it’s a given that those that voted for obummer are stupid!  And, it’s also a given that others that voted, like the blacks and latiino’s are also poverty stricken, but by choice. They have discovered a way of life wherein a person doesn’t have to work to support one’s self, one just has to vote for a loser like obummer and  you can get all the gov. freebie’s in the universe given to you just because you are black and latino!  So,they are poverty stricken by choice because it is easier to take hand-outs instead of working 8 plus hours a day to pay your own way.  And, they hand that down from generation to generation, and if they get sick, well, they just take advantage of obummers health care system where people that WORK for a liviing can’t get health care!  Is there something wrong with this picture?

    • ScottTodd

      @Tag68 I’m not saying I want to see this happen, but if history is any clue what you have described may create a Nazi-esque movement in this country.

      • Tag68

        @ScottTodd Scott, it is already here and has been for many years. I know this from experience and exposure to that ‘element’ of people and they brag about  how much they can play the system and how well they live without lifting a finger to earn it.  YOU, Scott, and all the other tax payers are the ones footing the bill!  Where do you think the funds come from that pay for these freebies’ that are gathered up daily by these deadbeats?  Yours and mine and everyone else that pays tax in the USA.   If there is a way to play the system they know it and will use it and hand it down to their families and friends.  Just think – what would happen if they used that energy in a positive way, and went out, got a job, and paid their own freight, just think what this world could be – but, when they are taught that it is all ‘whitey;s’ fault they can’t get good jobs, and tha whitey has his foot on their neck so they will never be able to get something good, then they don’t even try – their parents raise helpless alleged ‘victims’ that will  never produce a positive affect on this country because they are to bitter and filled with hatred – they are the true RACIST – much more than a white person could EVER be!  That  has become an excuse, too, to be used as a weapon agaiinst anyone that speaks the truth of how it is – it’s a built in defense for them, but so over used now that no one pays any attention!  Sad and pathetic, but it is what it is!

    • Mjritter

      @Tag68 unfortunately you left one other group out and that’s people like you! You can blame all the groups you want, you can try to rationalize the failures a you want, but the bottom line is most of the people here are the truly ignorant ones. They make outlandish claims, they ridicule people, many who actually do work, and work hard. They have this perception that everyone wants a handout.. But the bottom line is.. It’s just sheer ignorance and they like to blame their useless lives and failures on someone else.. It’s easier that way..

  • vandance

    Don’t bet your life on it, Einstein.  The FISCAL CLIFF is a reality that COULD happen…..I am not saying it will happen, but only that it could happen.  There is a lot of work to be done in 45-55 days. Can that Lame-duck congress and that Broke-d_ _ _ dog handle it?  Good question, huh?

    • Mjritter

      @vandance it could happen, but it won’t. Neither side will let it happen. If it were me as president, I’d tell Bill Clinton the country needs you. That man could sell a freezer to an Eskimo. And he understands the politics, and the “wind”… Even Newt gave him credit.. He’s slick Willy but he also has the prestige of being a former president

  • mickey94558

    The only problem with starting the circle over again is that I fear God will no longer be there as before.

    • Evermyrtle

      @mickey94558  I believe that GOD will watch out for HIS people but for America as a whole I think HE is done with us. America voted in the anti-GOD, Anti-CHRIST, homosexuality loving, liberality loving, communist, Muslin, Islamist. There is no reason except for HIS people, who are still here, why HE should give a snap of HIS fingers for us. We,as Americans have betrayed the one who gave us life and every good that we have. Satan gave us the rest like dirty money.

      • Mjritter

        @Evermyrtle @mickey94558 your post is one of someone who desperately needs help. First, Obama is no Muslim. Please show me 1 picture of him praying to Mecca? I’m sure you can find one somewhere since he’s been President for almost. 4 years. As for being a communist… You don’t even know what one is, but you love to throw words out there! Maybe you forgot something, I don’t remember the word Christianity on the US Constitution, but there are words like “dye process” among others. Maybe you haven’t read it. If you’d like I’ll give you a class in why marriage equality is a right that all people should have, and why courts, conservative and liberal have thrown out DOMA. God answered the prayers of millions and elected him twice, each time with over 50% of the vote!! God voted for him. He fought back Satan and his team in 2008 of McShame and Palin, then. 2012 of Myth RobMe & lying Ryan. The truths prevailed, and the American people prevailed. Just so you understand, the president is the president of the US, not just evangelicals or wanna be Christians. It includes Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, even atheists. Maybe you need a civics lesson in what the US really is… It’s a Republic (just like the pledge says) and learn the difference between a Republic and A Democracy… Maybe you’ll actually learn something

      • mickey94558

        @Evermyrtle  For those that still believe he will bring peace, but probably not in this life As long as we live we have to fight for his ways and follow his teachings. We still need to teach by example. We are all sinners, but that can’t stop us from continuing to follow the Lord!

    • Mjritter

      @mickey94558 he’ll back Hillary in 2016 like he did OBAMA in 2008 & 2012..

  • AJK105

    I just received this email.   Seems some of the problem with counting the Military ballots:   The DOJ is sueing to stop them from being counted.
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/defense-department-cant-put-soldiers-ballots-together/

  • Switchblade

    I’ll leave you with this quote from Dr. House- “Hope is for suckers”.

  • AJK105

    I just remembered something.  While we are digging up stuff, how about sending a bill to the DNC for the two Air Force Reserve units that were activated for a year for the sole purpose of flying President Obama to his campaign speeches.   I don’t see why we need to pay for that expense.  I also don’t see how two activated units can justify flying Air Force One for campaign speeches.   I wonder if that comes under reasons to Activate a Reserve Unit.  Afterall we didn’t ask him to campaign.  I thought he should be acting as a President.  Oh, Silly me there are 45 Czars doing his work so he really doesn’t have anything.

    • Mjritter

      @AJK105 actually, if the plane is flown to political events the DNC does pay for it. Pretty neat sight to stand at Andrews AFB and watch Air Force 1 do touch and go’s!

  • Dagohoy

    The message to the American People was not delivered forcefully. Romney on the last debate was hardly punching.
    The real Obama was never exposed and won by a Technical Knockout! What we need are Fierce Leadership and willing to slug it out to the finish.

    • Deodidact

      @Dagohoy
       I think Romney made a carefully calculated decision.  While those of us on the conservative side wanted him to crush Obama’s peurile talking points and bloody his nose, Romney already had our votes.  He may well have been trying to appeal to the very nervous, and very skittish, independents who would be made fearful if Obama successfully made Romney look like some belligerent warmonger.  I’m not sure the outcome would have been any different if Romney had come out swinging, although it would definitely been more satisfying to those of us already in his corner.

      • Mjritter

        @Deodidact @Dagohoy good point.. It wouldn’t have Nare any difference but an excellent point… Even if he did lose the last 2 debates. He just couldn’t sell himself as presidential. We didnt need another CEO in the WH, had that with Bush and struck out..

        • Independentrd

          @Mjritter  @Deodidact  @Dagohoy Although not a Romney fan, I’d much rather have a CEO and man with government experience in the WH than a community organizer (from  Chicago) with none.

    • JimGrab

      @Dagohoy
       We need someone that will stand up and say “NO MORE!” No more welfare to anyone that reports for their check with a new tattoo, designer painted nails, new body piercing, top of the line IPad, cell phone,  dressed to the “nines!” etc.
      If you are able of mind and body – your work for your check! You put the time in for any help that you get from any agency.
      No more crubside service for those that say they can’t work. If they can’t come and get it- they don’t get it!
      No more  money for any country especially those that say they are a friend and then turn around and stab us in the back and/or vote against us in the UN. Better yet get out of the UN and tell the UN to get out of the USA.
      Build up our military to a strength that means we do not have to take anyting off of anybody and turn the first and every country after that in to a parking lot that screws with us in any way.
      Get a leader with some balls and put the balls back in the USA.
      Knock off the political correctness and tell every person that doesn’t like our brand of freedom that there is a boat waiting to take them to anywhere they want to go. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass and don’t come crawling back when you finally find that you had it pretyty good while here.
      If we have to fight a war, let’s fight it to win it. No holds barred and everyone in the country that gives us any crap is fairgame for a bullet.

      • Brabbie2002

        @JimGrab @Dagohoy

      • NavyJR

        @JimGrab  One of NYC’s mayors TRIED that “work for your welfare check” thing,back in ’59 or ’60, I believe it was.  The riots were such that he capitulated within a week or so.  As for “curbside” service for those who can’t come in, there ARE people who are genuinely disabled and mobility is a hardship for them.  I’m a senior with mobility issues who doesn’t drive; so I can understand that but “curbside service” has never been available for me.  A check in the mail or direct deposit, but that’s it.
        I agree fully about getting us OUT of the UN and the UN out of the US, as well as stopping ALL foreign aid.  We’re BORROWING the money for that; we CAN’T AFFORD it any longer; and until we can, NONE for ANYONE!  When we can, THEN only for our true allies! 
        Back in the ’60s my Dad said he’d fly the plane to take those “hippies” wherever it was they wanted to go: Cuba, Russia, China…I wish they’d GONE then!  {He did have the qualifications to do so}.  And I gave up PC a long time ago; it’s just a LIE!

      • Mjritter

        @JimGrab @Dagohoy let’s loom at the facts. We won the war in Iraq.. I remember mission accomplished.. Don’t you. We won our objective in Afghanistan, we destroyed Al Qaeda and got bin Laden. Under Obama we have killed hundreds of terrorists.. Our military is not only strong, but what country do you think can beat us? You can blame anyone or anything, but the facts are there. It was the republicans that decimated the military. Sent our soldiers off to war with inferior equipment. I remember in the early 2000’s of soldiers buying their own equipment (bullet proof vests) because what we had was junk. To many revisionists here..

    • Evermyrtle

      @Dagohoy  I believe that it simply was time for Satan to win, so the we could got on with the “coming again, of “THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!”  I think that the Christian morals of America have sunk so low,  so far away from GOD’S plan for HIS creation, that HE is ready to get on with HIS plans of a “New heaven and a new earth” which HE has planned for HIS people. I think HE is ready to see us all of together and not scattered all over the world, being persecuted in so many lands, which will be right here if the day is not soon. The evils have grown by leaps and bounds for the last four years and look what we have to look forward to,  during the next four  years, if the world remains that long.

      • Mjritter

        @Evermyrtle @Dagohoy no it was God.. He answered the phone when he got the ca to vote for Obama and he didnt letdown millions of people in 2008 and 2012! God fought back Satan in 2008 and McShame/Palin and again Satan and his team of Myth RobMe/Lyin’ Ryan.. Jubilation

  • wisewoman

    Instead of giving up, let’s begin to think of creative ways to live our lives while depriving the government of tax money.  If tax money began to dry up there are two things they would do:  Raise taxes.  Borrow more.  Perhaps if they did either or both of those things supposedly smart people who voted for Obama (I could name at leat 10 of them) would begin to get the message that we need other leadership.  Yes, we are “stuck” with Obama (unless he is impeached) for four years, but we have elections coming up in two years and we can vote in those who will obstruct Obama’s plans that he hasn’t managed to implement.
    If you don’t like the Tea Party, then begin some other grass roots movement.  We the people combined have a lot more brains ingenuity than those we send back to WA D.C.  Lets not sit back and whine anymore.  As those on the airplane that was brought down in Pennsylvania said:  “Let’s roll”.

    • Deodidact

      My kind of woman!  Couldn’t have said it better…

    • Brabbie2002

      @wisewoman Every company in America should step outside into their parking lot and fire everyone with an Odumbass sticker on their car! Save the companies a fortune on odumbasscare and upcoming taxes!

      • Teeseeree

        @Brabbie2002  @wisewoman 
        I have a sticker with his picture on it, but it’s the one that says, “Does this ass make my car look big?”

        • http://comcast.net/ A MARINE

          @Teeseeree  @Brabbie2002 I LOVE THAT

        • Brabbie2002

          @Teeseeree @wisewoman I have the same sticker! Like minds!

    • NavyJR

      Looks good on paper, but the problem is that Obama and the Federal Reserve would simply PRINT more moneymaking what there is even MORE worthless than it already is.  And the ones who NEED to GET the message  won’t; they’ll just blame us, Congress or whomever else is convenient for their INCONVENIENCE.  That’s how their minds work; how they’ve been raised/taught!  See, you’re thinking like a rational, sensible person; which those are NOT!

  • Mad as hell

    The Republicans do not know how to fight the dems. They always soft pedal the messaage. Romney should have been on tv everyday pounding Obama’s sad record. Unemployement, higher gas prices, Benghazi. We need a hard core conservative to get out the message and use any and all tactics to win. We never take it to them. We stand by and turn the other cheek.
    When are we going to get a candidate with some balls?
    We control congress but they are not doiing anything to fight against Obama. Why aren’t they holding hearings about Bengahazi? Why is’nt someone in jail? Why do the Republicans stand around with their hands in their pockets doing nothing.
     
    It is time for Bohner to go and get someone else who will stand up against Obama!  I am so pissed I cannot contain myself.

    • Mjritter

      @Mad as hell I sure dont know what planet you were on… maybe Uranus, but everyday I saw as after ad pummeling Obama’s record. Most were factually incorrect or misleading and people got tired of the falsehoods Romney and Super Pac’s like GPS America Crossroads were selling and didnt buy into it. For you to say the republicans did a soft sell is just plain lying and very disingenuous to the truth… something the republicans know little about.

      • Mad as hell

        @Mjritter  @Mad Mjritter you like all of the Obama lovers are delusional. If you think Romney lied you had better check the lies that came out of Obama’s mouth. Voting for Obama is like a chicken rooting for Colonel Sanders. Where will the chicken end up?
        Check your history about Tyrants and you will see that Obama is a tyrant.

      • Evermyrtle

        @Mjritter  @Mad  Do you have a clue what planet you are on, is that why you keep asking that question or commenting on it.

    • deebar

      @Mad as hell First of all we need to see the problem . We still don’t understand the political system . I used to call myself a Republican up until about 20+ years ago and no longer can I do that.
      There isn’t a spit worth of difference between the two parties . Their direction is the same , just a different path .
      The Republicans have given us more (serious) law in respect to our freedoms than the Dems . But recently all you have to look at is the Patriot Act . It trumped the FBI and gave us DHS another (real) army that can and will be used against us and they will be used in the not so distant future to take our guns and if they think like the U.N. they will take our property  . I have no love loss for the Dems , none , but there is a left / right paradigm that I call good cop bad cop .
      Wouldn’t you think that those we voted in could correct our Country ? Parties divide to their benefit not ours . If they are there to make law that’s what they do , to the detriment of our country . How many laws do we need ?
      DC is a corporation that takes care of their own , not us . 10 Square miles that rule the rest of us .

  • Brabbie2002

    Ooh, look – mrjitter is a member of the “gimme” party. It shows! Anyone with half a brain knows that Odumbass was raised as a muslim in Indonesia and Christians DO NOT bow to muslim Amir’s or princes. Also, you self-professed brainchild, he wears a ring bearing the muslim remark about allah. Have you read nothing during these last four years? Have you checked out the videos of his nibs followers saying that now their messiah has been re-elected and there will be no more f–king Israel! Not my words..theirs! Is this what you really want. You better check who invented the important stuff in your life. The answer. Look it up and you will find hundreds of Jewish names!

    • Mjritter

      @Brabbie2002 actually he was raised in Indochina for a relatively short period of time. Do your homework. And most of the time there GE went to an American school. Ignorance is bliss in your house. From 5th grade on he lived in the US and went to pretty good school. But then again his mother was well educated, unlike so many here. And reading your idiot rant, that is based on little fact and sheer idiocy.. it’s hard to refute garbage since you list no facts. There have been many things invented by Israeli’s. I would also point out that the have many things invented by anti-Semites like Henry Ford & Thonas Edison. So get off your high-horse and face reality. I can find good and bad in every culture. In fact if you spent 30 minutes doing the barest of research, you’d be amazed at what Muslims discovered and invented.. Might surprise you.. even the Chinese…

      • http://comcast.net/ A MARINE

        @Mjritter Its hard to put too words what would describe you,  but treason is at the top of the list. Its obvious that you’re on this site for the sole purpose to annoy people. obama will try to subjugate  the people of this country and he will start the civil war. if you think muslims are all that great why don’t you go live with them. I  could care less about the rest of the world. we just need to form a coalition between us Canada , England , Australia and a couple of latin american countries that are in the communist  sphere. and mexico is not one of them, with our coalition we don’t need the rest of the worldi. If the arab world needs food its simple 5  barrels of oil for one bushel of corn or wheat. We can  take  our grains and make fuel but they sure cant eat their oil. its pay back time and we will get our justice and people like you that support obama and his demoncrates , well you will just have to watch your self

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @A MARINE  @Mjritter
           Here we go again with Mjritters REVISIONIST history and what marxist academia has wrought on their thinking. One of the typical pontifications is all the wonderful scientific and cultural contributions of the muslim political system. Of course the 17th century feudalism of Afganistan is a prime example.
           
          Here’s a good place to learn of all the wonderful progress we are making in the US as we start  having some of our courts follow sharia law.
           
          http://www.actforamerica.org/
           
          this will point out all the advances in science and culture as well….Jihad watch
           
          http://www.jihadwatch.org/
           
          I have met WALID SHOEBAT on several occaisions (Former Muslim Brotherhood Member Now Peace Activist) and it is really a great perspective when he teaches on “end times” eschatolgy
           
          http://www.shoebat.com/
           
          I have even wondered if Mjritter is an islamic agitator?

        • NavyJR

          @Howdy Doody Conservative  Now Howdy, be fair; the Muslims DID play a significant role in our early history!  It was they who initiated the slave trade of blacks to Europe and America, and it was the Barbary Coast Wars that gave our Marines that wonderful line in their hymn “to the shores of Tripoli”!  Just think, we might never even have had our Civil War, but for them, and all the disastrous changes that followed that! {Okay, sarcasm off now…  You might find the site americanislamicforumfordemocracy.com interesting; Dr Jasser is often working with the Shoebats, father and son, and speaking out as much as he can against that problem which is invading our shores with the illegals, and with many being BROUGHT in by this administration as well as the ones legally admitted by  and through the system!}  As for Mjritter; so much hot air that’s showing its ignorance and lib beliefs clearly.

        • Mjritter

          @Howdy Doody Conservative @A MARINE no, just an AMERICAN, who believes in the US Constitution, unlike the moronic hypocrites here, whose beliefs think that unless you are white Christian, you’re unAmerican and lazy. The simple fact is, most people here are bigots. They believe that Obama is a Muslim, though they can’t produce 1 photo of him praying to Mecca. They seem to make up pure junk. They can use all the names they want, but they are the losers. The AMERICAN people have spoken, not once but twice. They people have rejected your hate and ignorance. But keep living in fantasyland, full of junk science, conspiracies, warped sense of history and reading of the US Constitution. But this is the USA, where preaching ignorance is not a crime.. But I do appreciate the comments as I find them quite comical. And FYI, having grown up on property that is now Arlington National Cemetery, where I have both parents and a sister buried there. I take what the 600,000 buried there very seriously and what they died for.. Freedom for ALL citizens, including Muslims, and any other religion or atheists. Unlike so many here.

        • Mjritter

          @NavyJR @Howdy Doody Conservative I guess your knowledge stopped when you entered school. World history is something you flunked. Muslims were very influential in architecture, medicine, science among many things. But then again the comic books you read is about the level of intelligence you’ve achieved. No wonder we do so poorly on international testing… I would complain to about many teachers for passing idiots on. You would make Jethro Bodine proud.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @Mjritter  @Howdy  @A REVISIONIST HISTORY and a product of marxist higher learning.You are so typical it’s a HOOT! Your warped sense of history is funny. Since you revisionist typically use source documents to only as far back as 1900’s (plenty of marxist crap available by then) when those of us armed with the facts use the acutal and REAL source documents penned by the founder themselves. One example is the typical claim that MOST of the founders were deist when in fact that among the few exceptions that weren’t religious a few were diest. Also you think that the Islam that is intent on sharia law replacing the constitutuion (the religion of peace ya know) is a religion…NOT. It’s a political system!
           
          http://www.actforamerica.org/
           
          Also here are some NON SHEEPLE links and resources so you can research some real information…
           
          http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/component/content/article/33
           
          Yea and the athiest whacko’s want all the crosses removed because they say “it causes them harm” and makes them ill. Funny thing that you would think  if you are an atheist it just wouldn’t matter?
           
          It’s typical of the SHEEPLE who believe everything the mainstream secular media says. First off Dr. Dinesh D’Souza’s facts and bibliography all stand up under strigent fact  checking which those who worship at the throne of mainstream media refuse to research (because they don’t wan’t to admit it’s true….sheeple)
           
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=fbusRvo2cH8&NR=1
           
          As far as history goes I have seen some debates between David Barton of Wallbuilders and some high tenured marxist/revisionist professors whith many history doctorates and I felt embarrassed for the Prof’s.
           
          http://www.wallbuilders.com/
           
           
          phehh!!!

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @Mjritter Yea, Yea here we go…right on schedule when a product of REVISIONIST HISTORY can’t defend their source documents.
           
          Revisionism is the common method employed by those seeking to subvert American culture and society. The dictionary defines revisionism as an “advocacy of the revision of an accepted, usually long-standing view, theory, or doctrine; especially a revision of historical events and movements.”
           
          Revisionism attempts to alter the way a people views its history and traditions in order to cause that people to accept a change in public policy. For example, during the 150 years that textbooks described the Founding Fathers as being devout men and Christians who actively practiced their faith, civic policy embraced and welcomed public religious expressions. But in recent years as the same Founders have come to be portrayed as atheists, agnostics, and deists who were opposed to religious activities, public policies have similarly been reversed.
           
          Revisionists generally accomplish their goal of rewriting history by:
           
          Underemphasizing or ignoring the aspects of American history they deem to be politically incorrect and overemphasizing those portions they find acceptable;
           
          Vilifying the historical figures who embraced a position they reject; and
           
          Concocting the appearance of widespread historical approval for the social policy they are attempting to advance.
           
          There are many means that are used by revisionists to accomplish these goals but the most common include:
           
          1. Patent Untruths 
           
          2. Overly Broad Generalizations  (eg: Lack of religiosity among 3 of the Founders yet fail to mention the rest of the almost 200 Founding Fathers )
           
          3. Omission
           
          4. A Lack of Primary Source References 
           
          It is not melodramatic to state that America’s future rests on what is taught to our children, for as Abraham Lincoln wisely observed:
           
          The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next. (attributed)
           
          Famous American educator Noah Webster therefore rightly admonished:
           
          The education of youth should be watched with the most scrupulous attention. . . . [It] lays the foundations on which both law and gospel rest for success.
           
          Indeed!
           
          And Mjritter shows that the worst fears of Lincoln and Webster have come to pass for a long time in america  everytime he opens his mouth and SPEWS  REVISIONIST all over the place. It is so blatant and recognizable it’s funny.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @Mjritter@Howdy@A
          Yea, Yea here we go…right on schedule when a product of REVISIONIST HISTORY can’t defend their source documents.
           
          Revisionism is the common method employed by those seeking to subvert American culture and society. The dictionary defines revisionism as an “advocacy of the revision of an accepted, usually long-standing view, theory, or doctrine; especially a revision of historical events and movements.”
           
          Revisionism attempts to alter the way a people views its history and traditions in order to cause that people to accept a change in public policy. For example, during the 150 years that textbooks described the Founding Fathers as being devout men and Christians who actively practiced their faith, civic policy embraced and welcomed public religious expressions. But in recent years as the same Founders have come to be portrayed as atheists, agnostics, and deists who were opposed to religious activities, public policies have similarly been reversed.
           
          Revisionists generally accomplish their goal of rewriting history by:
           
          Underemphasizing or ignoring the aspects of American history they deem to be politically incorrect and overemphasizing those portions they find acceptable;
           
          Vilifying the historical figures who embraced a position they reject; and
           
          Concocting the appearance of widespread historical approval for the social policy they are attempting to advance.
           
          There are many means that are used by revisionists to accomplish these goals but the most common include:
           
          1. Patent Untruths 
           
          2. Overly Broad Generalizations  (eg: Lack of religiosity among 3 of the Founders yet fail to mention the rest of the almost 200 Founding Fathers )
           
          3. Omission
           
          4. A Lack of Primary Source References 
           
          It is not melodramatic to state that America’s future rests on what is taught to our children, for as Abraham Lincoln wisely observed:
           
          The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next. (attributed)
           
          Famous American educator Noah Webster therefore rightly admonished:
           
          The education of youth should be watched with the most scrupulous attention. . . . [It] lays the foundations on which both law and gospel rest for success.
           
          Indeed!
           
          And Mjritter shows that the worst fears of Lincoln and Webster have come to pass for a long time in america  everytime he opens his mouth and SPEWS  REVISIONIST all over the place. It is so blatant and recognizable it’s funny.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @NavyJR Oh I really like and appreciate Dr. Zuhdi Jasser as he is very articulate how HIS RELIGION has been hijacked by radicals. Here in So Cal Frank Pastore at KKLA, 99.5 FM (intersection of faith & reason) has him on his show all the time. He also has Brigitte Gabrielle and Walid Shoebat and “son of Hammas” on regularly too.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          Oh I really like and appreciate Dr. Zuhdi Jasser as he is very articulate how HIS RELIGION has been hijacked by radicals. Here in So Cal Frank Pastore at KKLA, 99.5 FM (intersection of faith & reason) has him on his show all the time. He also has Brigitte Gabrielle and Walid Shoebat and “son of Hammas” on regularly too.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @NavyJR Oh I really like and appreciate Dr. Zuhdi Jasser as he is very articulate how HIS RELIGION has been hijacked by radicals. Here in So Cal Frank Pastore at KKLA, 99.5 FM (intersection of faith & reason) has him on his show all the time. He also has Brigitte Gabrielle and Walid Shoebat and “son of Hammas” on regularly too.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Mjritter  @Howdy  @A 
          Let’s begin with muslims’ freedom in YOUR neighborhood, stoopid. What an asswipe

        • Tony Ruiz

          @A MARINE  @Mjritter   Mjritter, Turds have a tendency to smell for quite awhile. You are fresh enough to stink to high heaven. Back off a ways, would you please?!

        • Evermyrtle

          @A MARINE  @Mjritter WE ditched our every opportunity to help ourselves when we elected the Muslim Islamist. I believe our only opportunity is that every red state succeed. Of Course, there is always GOD and HE is the only help we need if we will only seek HIS will for us, find it and do it.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Mjritter  @Howdy  @A You know I wish there was a way to could mark dislike, as well as like for comments. I guess it is better this waybut there are few I would like mark “dislike!” Sorry folks, I am not complaining, I thank you for giving us this opportunity.

        • Mixture V ranks

          @Mjritter  @NavyJR  @Howdy First off, Obama is steeped in Islam which is in part why he acts as he does.  During speeches he made overseas early in his first term as President, he quoted rather long passages out of the Qoran in what those who knew said was flawless Arabic.  [Mohammad did not want the Qoran ever to be translated out of Arabic, though it was later anyway!]  This is picked up from his step-father and the schools to which he was sent in Indonesia, when he lived there.  That’s not bigotry but fact. 
           
          To say that Muslims “were very influential in architecture, medicine, science among many things” is not exactly true, though the popular understanding holds to this view.  Most of what the Muslims picked up in these areas were the result of conquest.  Science, in particular, mathematics, was something they learned from their conquests in Hindustan [modern day India].  They also picked up medical knowledge in the same way; they did not generate it themselves. 
           
          Beyond this, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin were all in Europe during the 1780’s, Paris and London, and had the opportunity to meet with the ambassador from Tripoli [where it was necessary later for the Marines to enter].  The Barbary Coast was very active then and Europe, especially Paris and London, was busy paying tributes to two-bit pirates and rulers from North Africa to prevent the torture and killing of their seamen engaged in legitimate commerce.  What all three of these gentlemen heard from the mouth of the ambassador not only shocked them but created a sense of outrage so strong that Jefferson, who was not prone to military solutions for diplomatic problems, later authorized the Marines to go in and level the pascha at Tripoli to protect American sailors from torture and decapitation.  
           
          During his presidency Adams gave a speech in October of 1798 in which he declared that the government which had been fought for and set up in the USA at that time required Christianity as its foundation and Christian morality among its people, otherwise the government would not work.  The US Supreme Court in a decision in about 1892 reaffirmed this, that the USA was a Christian nation and that all documents of significance concurred with this conclusion.  That was commensurate with the three Founding Fathers who felt that this country by definition was no place for Islam or its traditions and Jefferson later so stated, I think, in writing.  To understand that fully probably would require some knowledge and analysis of Islam itself, but that is beyond the scope of this reply.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @Mixture V ranks  @Mjritter  @NavyJR  @Howdy Yayy a breath of fresh air from the Mjritter REVISIONIST HISTORY stink.
           
          Thank you!!!!

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Brabbie2002   Oh geez, I hope you’re not one of the first, early casualties in this civil uprising. We all know what kind of uniform you’ll be wearing. But it’s a good thing you’re all stupid because it encourages us when we know we’re fighting a force that’s missing a few fish on its string. Why don’t you go to another site where you’re welcome? I suggest    iloveobamanomatterwhatthefactsare.com

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Brabbie2002    I wonder why we can’t see your face…oh, maybe it’s because of the scarf on your face. Please continue to dress the part so we know who and what you are…a muslim. We know what they invented…a world-wide pandemic.

  • ErnestLane

    One of the things that most concerns me is that we’ll see a decrease in medical innovation — drugs and medical devices, primarily.

    • NavyJR

      @ErnestLane Not to worry, sir, unless you’re over 2 and under 50, you wouldn’t be eligible for them anyway. And then ONLY if your potential “earnings” worth was greater than the cost of the treatment, whatever it is… !  That’s the reality of Obamacare for all of us.

  • http://www.daaymfg.com/ Carl Dixon

    Anti-America? Where are you getting your info? Did you watch the democratic convention who stooped so low as to take a vote whether to invite God to their event? The nae was louder but the man in charge over road it and said they would accept Him. The Republican convention did not take such a vote. Have you read in the O.T. where God was not invited to their feast but came into the room appearing to Belshazzar with His fingers writing on the wall telling him that he had been weighed in the balance and found wanting. At least the Republican party recognizes God. Homosexual, abortion or same sex marriage is not their agenda.  Hope you get your wires uncrossed.   Carl Dixon

    • Mjritter

      @Carl Dixon u guess God answered so many prayers, he voted for Obama… Twice!!

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Carl    God help you my son; on second thought, he won’t because you’re not a Christian Believer (redundant). No true believers knowingly voted for obamination

        • Mjritter

          @Tony Ruiz @Carl What an arrogant, unChristian response. Who do you think you are? God answered so many prayers when he voted (twice) for Obama! The real problem is he didnt care much for your clown, who happens to be a decent guy, but just not ready for prime time. Romney couldn’t sell it. He dip-flopped more than a pancake on the griddle. To get the nomination, and to get votes from the whacked our right, he had to sell his soul to the devil. Then GE started to come back to reality… but then it was to late.. people saw him for what he was.. Bottom line.. for you to claim that no Christian would have voted for Obama is not only absurd and wrong, it shows you really know very little of Christianity, nor do you really understand what the USA stands for, and what it is, a REPUBLIC and a secular country.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @Carl  I believe that Tony got his opinion by searching the scriptures and he id dead right. You are an arrogant, holier than thou, know it all,  get your Bible out and do some study before making yourself a complete fool, about what you know about it, actually don’t know about it.. ..

  • heepsibadasious

    It seems to me, the republican party is in need of some serious pandering to dead beats, illegal aliens, sodomites, hollywood miscreants and using the constitution as but wipe paper.

    • Mjritter

      @heepsibadasious no, they just need to join the 21at Century. Has for Sodomites, that’s funny since there are more heterosexuals that commit sodomy than gays, and many profess to be Christians. And what area if the country leads in divorces??? The Bible Belt… Ask the serial adulterer himself, Newt Gingrich

      • Evermyrtle

        @Mjritter  @heepsibadasious  I believe, you lie, but that is not a surprise!!

  • chamuiel

    @savethenation
     
     
    When Ike came through and I was without power for two weeks, I was right in the Middle of Houston, Texas. There were no stores open so we did not know if there was anything on the shelves or not., and very little police prescence. We did not get the NG. We loaded our own guns and stood guard over our own property. I live in an area of Houston, that is made up of 90% illegal aliens. Where did you get the idea I lived in a rural area?

  • http://comcast.net/ A MARINE

    Where do we go from here, thats the question.
    1- we need to boycott all liberal media, You may have to miss some of your favorite shows but we need to bankrupt nbc, cbs, abc, cnn, msnbc.  They control the media and what we see on the news and what we hear and see thats news always to benefit the demoncrates agenda on their path of socializing America. There intent to push muslim law in this country and the selling out of America to be under control of the un.
     
    2- boycott movies with stars and directors and producers that support the deamoncrates, Get in to the pockets of these minions of obama and his socialist. beliefs. Break them by denying them money from their work, if you don’t spend money on the tickets they won’t. get paid.
     
    3- boycott companies that cave to the  financial terrorist  of the labor unions. Its ..the union goal with obamas support that every person in this country pay union dues. If your looking to buy a product thats union made do not buy it bankrupt   the companies. Get the unions out of our companies and let them reform without the union . bring the jobs back to America that left due to the unions.
     
    4.lets start a nation wide petition drive to get on the 2014 ballets that we can vote to   withdraw from the un and throw them out of the country.
     
    5- Send bills to all the countries that we helped supplied with American lives money and goods, DURING WWii lets get back what we spent that will pay at least half of our national debt. If the countries dont want to pay then deduct what they owe us from what we owe them.
     
    6-Declare china as a money manipulator and put tariffs on all goods shipped from china to the US. 
     
    7. Don’t let obama and his demoncrates to destroy our  military. they fact the 95% of our military that are overseas did not get to vote,
     
    SEMPER FI

    • Brabbie2002

      @A MARINE We also need to have companies check their parking lots for Odumbass stickers and fire the owner of that car! P.s. God bless you for your service to our once great country.

      • Mjritter

        @Brabbie2002 what a repugnant and anti-Christian post.

    • Mjritter

      @A MARINE I guess you got a little shell shocked somewhere and it rattled your brain. Taking #7 first… The blame is as equally the republicans for the sequestration and cuts in the military. In fact, it is the Congress not the president that is responsible. Both sides voted for it. So your blame of democrats not only shows your bias, it shows your ignorance to the facts. #5 many countries did pay us back from WWII. Much of we forgave, just like we forgave Israel and Egypt of billions owed to us. So this is useless and not going to happen. #4 the UN and ballets? I think you meant ballots. Again, pretty lame. No mater what you think of an adversary, if you refuse to talk to them, you only hurt yourself. Simple fact, not going to happen, wouldn’t pass if it did, most people are smart enough to understand the need for a global organization. People here seem to be excluded but someone must have been dropped on their heads when born. 2 & 3 only demonstrate ignorance of economics. Even Mitt’s dad as the CEO of a car mfg understood the need for unions. And as for #1, again it just shows how moronic people here are. Sharia Law is not practiced in our court system. Most people here read “junk” without and don’t bother to actually read the cases and decisions and exactly how the case was decided. In every case where a state tried to pass a law that “outlawed” Sharia law, OK being a prime example, they could not demonstrate or show 1 case that was decided using Sharia Law. So please list 3 cases that actually was decided using Sharia Law.

      • http://comcast.net/ A MARINE

        @Mjritter  you are the idiot, its people like you that are causing the downfall of this country, you and i will never agree. just give it some time and we will see who is right. If you think obama giving power  to the un over us is ok  then you really are stupid

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @A MARINE  @Mjritter
           Watch out when Mjritter starts spewing their REVISIONIST history which is a product of the marxist acedamia of today.

    • True Patriot

      @A MARINE The majority of Americans voted for Obama.  The majority of Americans are not leeches, they work hard and want the same results.  Your outrageous comments are not helping bring us together.  You state comments that are not facts.  The percentage of our military that did not get to vote is not 95%, but less than 10%.  Unions DO NOT want every one to pay dues.  I do not like most unions but I do not like the companies that make unions necessary because they abuse their workers.  If you are a patriot at all you would support your country and try to help it not fight it.

      • NavyJR

        True Patriot: HOW DARE you even usurp that title??? You are DEAD WRONG in your diatribe here! The Marine has it right on the military vote; not you.  And you clearly know NOTHING of what unions are and have been demanding and trying to force as long as I can remember, which goes back a pretty fair ways  Unions are NOT necessary; and companies are neither more nor less corrupt.  But they don’t send their thugs out murdering to keep their power as unions do and have done with impunity since the ’30s at least!   That Marine DID something for his country; he ANSWERED her call and signed a “blank check:” to her, up to and including HIS LIFE: what have YOU done but whine and bitch about the very people that made it possible for you to do so????

        • True Patriot

          @NavyJR Just look who is whining and bitching!!  Whether you serve your country or not, your opinion is not any more right than any one else.  And your “facts” are as contrived as A MARINE’s.

    • Believer2

      @A MARINE #8 With Military cuts coming , add jihaddist in America , to the list of deer ,and turkeys,and wild pigs , season could be 24/7 365 though,

      • RivahMitch

        @Believer2  @A MARINELocked & loaded Semper Fi!

  • Brabbie2002

    To Mr Ruiz..I wish you and yours safety and good health..and remember God loves us and Texas is able to secede from the union which they will probably do..to mjritter (better known as the village idiot) I wish everything Odumbass has in store for him!

    • Mjritter

      @Brabbie2002 lol, Texas secede from the Union, can’t happen, and won’t happen. So wake up from your dream. Now they can subdivide into 5 states but that too won’t happen..

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Brabbie2002   There you go again, stoopid. Take a pill and join your other jihadists

      • Evermyrtle

        @Mjritter  @Brabbie2002 mjritter, go see if you can find some over the counter pills for you mind,it is not working, properly

  • Brabbie2002

    Read about the new ammo at the WMD site? Question is good though. Why do they need more unless they are either afraid of us or they are painting targets on our backs!

    • Believer2

      @Brabbie2002 Every American Needs to google Homegrown Jihad 35 terrorist training camps on US Soil , then Ask why  this is not Headlined in the media , no mention or comment from the WH , ( guess they are still trying to find out if they are protesters , that just look like terrorist)*heres a clue *rocket launchers , C-4 , AK-47s , 
      I would put the link , but last time i did that it was removed , ?

  • SofiesVoice

    Thank you, thank you Marine, for your service.  And, you are so right!

  • Eileen Jones

    chamuiel, I meant , we outnumber Washington. They are a bunch of phony liars, and we can beat them if we stick together !

  • Jane Franklin

    President Obama and the liberal Democratic Party will financially sink America with all their Freebies.

    • Mjritter

      @Jane Franklin it’s interesting that you didn’t mention all the “freebies” we give/gave to corporations like oil companies and big banks who make billions in profits each year. Or the spending the republicans committed in the early 2000’s that lead o these huge deficits. Very interesting the hypocrisy and blame..

      • Independentrd

        @Mjritter  @Jane Surprisingly the oil companies work on a very narrow profit margin and pay higher tax rates than most other industries. but I agree with Jane that Obama will sink America with all the freebies even though we have the highest business taxes in the world.  It’s not the income from the taxes, but the outgo from the entitlements.
         
        I’ve often said, that Social Security (SS) cost me a great deal of money based on my investments. Had I been able to invest what SS “took” I’ and my wife would now be rich. Instead the money went into SS and did nothing to grow while the government swiped it for other projects.   I thin the SS system should be converted to a private system allowing the owners of the money to invest it.  I also think that those entering college should have to pass courses in practical decision making before being able to get student loans.
         
        It’s inexcusable that students get what I call useless degrees, cant find a job so they go on to advanced degrees in the same fields. I’d also go for giving those going into the sciences preferential rates for student loans…IF they maintain their grades.
         
        I saw a comment on welfare and work.  Until very recently when Obama removed the requirement, it was necessary to show a valid attempt to get work before receiving welfare.  It more than IRKS me that there are those unnecessarily living off welfare when there are those out there too proud to take welfare to keep them afloat. and get by on far less than poverty level wages.
         
        I’ve been watching last night’s Stossel where they interviewed the revelers at the Obama party.  When asked what his winning meant for freedom the majority didn’t have an answer. To the rest it meant “free stuff” from education, to health care. They don’t realize that sooner or later the bill comes due and it will be them, their children or grand children that have to pay it.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Independentrd  @Mjritter  @Jane  Obama removing the requirement , to get welfare you must seek work,  first only shows  that he is nor only willing but plans to finish ruining America.

        • Independentrd

          @Evermyrtle  @Mjritter  @Jane someone said that now is the time to work with obama. Working with obama just means more tax and spend. 
           
          I’m for “green energy”, but not for crony capitalism where the money goes to companies run by Obama’s campaign contributors. Also it’s about time for green energy companies to start standing on their own merits .  It appears that Obama has a great talent for giving money to companies that then soon fail.

        • LCS

          @Independentrd  @Evermyrtle  @Mjritter  @Jane
           Green energy is an overrated joke, that is going to end up helping to sky rocket the cost of overall energy, and at tax payer-subsidized expense besides!

        • Mjritter

          @Independentrd @Evermyrtle @Jane go so some homework and you’ll find republicans do the exact sane thing. Of you look at MA when Romney was gov, several companies that got govt grants went bankrupt. I point out RI, under a repub gov, they gave former Boston Pitcher Curt Schilling & his video game company $75 mil to move from Boston to RI. That company is bankrupt. It happens. As for “tax & spend,” the difference between dem’s and Repubs, is dem’s “tax and spend,” Repubs “borrow & spend.” Examples, 2 wars, unfunded, paid with borrowed money. Trillion dollar drug deal, unfunded, paid with borrowed money. And the grand daddy of them all – HUGE tax cuts, with a slowing economy, unfunded, paid with borrowed money! Never in our history have we gone to war and had tax cuts! And the worst part is, the tax cuts only increased the deficits substantially! All this and we had the worst recession in our history. To many people here are revisionists and Monday morning QB’s. Rep Eric Cantor told me once that the republicans spent money like a “drunken sailor.” They were no better, nor worse. Almost everyone realizes there is a serious problem, and no side owns the solution. Each side of the isle has their priorities, needs and wants. I would point out that Obama has won both his elections with over 50% of the vote. Not many presidents can claim that. Not Reagan, nor Clinton.. And remember Gore won the electorate vote against Bush. So to blame one side and not the other is disengenuous to the facts. Strip away all the political rhetoric and posturing and see it for what it really is..

        • DanielWatland

          @Independentrd  @Mjritter  @Jane
           In a way I like your comment, it’s inspiring. What I would add. When I was on the curriculum committee some 30 years ago; we had no world citizenship, a world banking system, a world court… We were all patriotic to out country and would not buy any “Jap” products. Today and after 35 years of indoctrination through our public school system, we are all virtually globalist believeing in a world economy. Today; look at our shelves in the stores. Of the top 100 economic entities in the world, 51 are corporations and 49 country’s. Let us suppose we were to refuse all foreign made products and become indipendant again… Imagine it, we would have massive layoffs way beyond what the 40% unemployment in the Great Dipression had. Everything from the ship yards to, trucking, fuel, shipping and receiveing, stocking shelves, check outs, baggers, automobile manufacturing would calapse with no one buying cars and I believe people would stay next to all the grocery stores across America. What is the greater power in our country today as compared to 5 decades ago… The indoctrination worked very well didn’t it?

      • NavyJR

        @Mjritter  Most of those went to your pal’s campaign coffers via failed “green energy” companies; NOT the corporations YOU’RE claiming, and I don’t even have to ask where you get your “information”, although I believe a PARROT could articulate it better!

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Jane Franklin    Jane my dear, we’re going to be more occupied with keeping our heads. Do you not know the degree of violence and evil we’re faced with now that a muslim is our 2nd term president? Everything he couldn’t do without risking winning the election he just won.

    • rockcut

      @Jane Franklin
       This uneducated simple charge of freebies shows you have no idea what you are talking about if you cling to such simple nonsense.

  • Independentrd

    I wish they’d fix this site so when I click on reply to an e-mail it’d take me to the proper location like most other blogs. 
     
    I lived in the country, we were without power for a tad over two weeks, power lines laid on the ground for miles. There was no national guard, or even any one to check on us.  It took a week to get out and the roads were still covered in ice making them too slippery to drive on.  Those old country gravel roads had a high crown.  Get off the crown and the ice had you right out in the fields.  Like most that lived in the country, or on a farm we were prepared .  sleeping bags on the beds to keep warm and food in the basement.  Cooked on a grill in the front of the garage so we had fresh air.  Generators were few and far between so we ended up with a foot of water in the basement, but at least it was clean water.
     
    and no I don’t stereotype, at least not intentionally… There was a block of seniors that voted for Obama and the AARP did endorse him. 
    BTW I’m also a senior, but I did not vote for Obama either.

    • LCS

      @Independentrd
       I will NEVER join AARP and other seniors should join me in that!!!

    • ScottTodd

      @Independentrd +1 on your opening comment and ditto to what LCS said about AARP.

  • Howdy Doody Conservative
    • ScottTodd

      @Howdy Doody Conservative   Ruddy thinks T-Paw should have been selected as VP?  He was OK as a governor, but he was too much like McCain.  Ruddy is clueless if he thinks that would have been a benefit.

      • Howdy Doody Conservative

        @ScottTodd I  agree…good catch. I think Rubio would have been his best choice? What do you think?
         
        Oh…here’s one for you…Christie…LOL.

        • ScottTodd

          @Howdy Doody Conservative  Rubio would have been a good choice, but I seem to remember he was also asked and turned it down just like T-Paw, which makes Ruddy’s suggestion Romney should have tapped him even more ridiculous.  I’ve been hearing on conservative talk radio these past few days about that study that shows Hispanics are in love with big government and aren’t as socially conservative as we’d been told and that they don’t vote on immigration positions so I doubt Romney/Rubio would have done any better.
           
          That study confirms something I had long suspected but couldn’t prove.  I remember the last remote broadcast I was engineering for my old employer- it was with Michael Medved at a deli in suburban Minneapolis.  I managed to contain myself well enough to ask him during a break about this as he had been spouting those same misbeliefs on the air, and he said that Republicans would need to lighten up on immigration to get their vote.  Did I ever want to break in and ask him while he was on the air!  And when I heard his recommendation it was all I could do to keep from blurting out “It’s over; we’ve lost!  Might as well give them everything south and west of Coloado.”

        • Mixture V ranks

          @ScottTodd  @Howdy Doody Conservative A thinking Latin among the remaining 30% commented just today that most Latin immigrants are from countries where the governments supposedly hand out ‘freebies’ to them.  In all of those countries, this whole government idea failed miserably, so most of these people cut and ran to this country to see, if they can continue getting ‘freebies’ in this country.   In other words these are Latins who are in love with big government which gives them “things”.  That is, unfortunately, true with a culture where, for at least seven generations back, there is little or no interest in education which is really the only salvation they have for raising themselves up in society.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @ScottTodd Interesting that a high percentage of Catholics (about 50%) voted for Oblowhole? Might that be due to a hight % of latino’s ya think?

        • ScottTodd

          @Howdy Doody Conservative Doubtless it contributed, but it comes down to how seriously do you take your religion?  Unfortunately a good chunk of both Catholics AND Protestants don’t.  The pastor of a church I attended years ago once said 90% of churches could close tomorrow and the world wouldn’t know the difference.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @ScottTodd  One thing for sure, religion was irrelevant in this race. Had that not been the case then there would have probably been a landslide and in fact Comrade Obama would never have been elected in the first place.
           
          I heard on Frank Pastore today 99.5 KKLA  on his intersection of faith & reason show on an interview that 6 million “evangelicals” voted for O’ this time which is incomprehendable to me. Also that 4 million more voted for Romney than for McCain. Somwhere there is a wash for the 17 million “evangelicals” who didn’t bother to vote in 2008? Maybe we would just be better off if the “evangelicals” just didn’t vote at all?

        • ScottTodd

          @Howdy Doody Conservative The ones who shouldn’t vote are the ones who don’t know their Bible.  Better yet, what needs to happen is Christians should actually learn what the Bible teaches and then vote accordingly.  If you’re filling your head with Joel Osteen you’re never gonna get there.  We need people in the pulpits more reminiscent of those leading up to our Revolution.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @ScottTodd YIKES!!! Osteen??  I can just see him holding up his Bible saying (in a Texas drawl) “this is mah Bible……” and proceed with a Tony Robbins self esteem pep talk with not another reference to the Bible.
           
          I know that was mean And I just couldn’t help it as the flesh took over. I have offended zillions of people with that but I still remember his difficulty explaining his faith on that Larry King interview which was inexcusable. I better stop before I get myself into more trouble here.

  • http://comcast.net/ A MARINE

    I can see that, He  or she is guilty of treason and eventually  all dogs of treason will have their day, It may come sooner than they think. Thank you for the info

  • deebar

    Smiley , Once again you are wrong . I made more money because of the tax rate . With that extra money I paid more in tax’s . You need to go to business school in order to grasp the concept of lower tax’s , more productivity , hire more people increase my income and also increase pay for those that worked for me .
    Something I’m sure that you don’t understand is good pay equates to a good base for the company . Without a good base you just go through the motions and your business goes stale and you lose it . I gave bonus’s each year to all and gave more to those that did more than the rest . In 25 years with this business I fired maybe 8 or 9 people which didn’t put out . I owned four business’s in total and all successful because I was willing to try and accepting the chance of not succeeding . I still have 2 and I still work hard . One makes money , the other doesn’t and I knew that going into it but it’s (MY) money and I don’t care .
    You did point out one thing that was true , only one . The company only makes money off the people that work for you . Now you’re starting to get it , that’s how company’s make money . Without them you lose . It was (MY) money that I had worked hard for to buy a house . In turn I sold it , invested that money in starting up my own business , (MY) money ! Had I gone bust it was only (MY) money that I would lose . That’s the chance you take . It wasn’t my employees money it was (MINE) . They wouldn’t lose a dime but they would lose their job if I couldn’t make it . I worked harder than any of my employees . That’s what you do to come out ahead and be a success .
    I started working at about 7 or 8 for money hoeing beans or detasseling corn from sunup to dawn . And also chores before going to “work” . From that time forward I always had a job . You don’t understand business and you don’t want to , just want to spout what you don’t know .

    • Mixture V ranks

      @deebar An excellent reply!  Would that more people understood what you have written.

    • DanielWatland

      @deebar
       I never ran a business of my own, but I completely understood those that did. My boss was straight forward. He sai: If the company makes money you will make money, if we start loosing money and you don’t work hard to keep us going, I will sell it. You will be out on the street and I will reinvest. I worked for him 30 years and retired as a Shop Steward for the IAM Machist Union. He made millions from some of the best employees in the world has to offer.

  • arm32

    mjritter, you fogot to say that Clinton is an impeached president.

  • deebar

    Save this Nation , On your Rubio comment I’m in agreement with what seems just plain common sense . Isn’t it weird how that works ?

  • johnsilver

    Mia Love? Bobby Jindal?   These are the ones you think are going to save America?  Are you completely out of your mind?

  • deebar

    Chamueil , Not sure of your message ? If it is who I identify with meaning D or R I’m neither one . I’m a Conservative both fiscal and social and in some ways lean Libertarian .Both parties are as dirty as one could get .
    Hows that for an answer ? If it’s something else let me know .

    • Tony Ruiz

      @deebar   Of course you’re neither one. You’re nothing, a zero, a liar and might I add, stoopid

      • Mixture V ranks

        @Tony Ruiz  @deebar I don’t think so, Tony.  You appear to be a bit quick at jumping to these kinds of conclusions.  Why not read and think a little more carefully on what is written before you?

      • DanielWatland

        @Tony Ruiz  @deebar
         When a Republican gets caught, he lashes out in anger. Again, by doing nothing about your complaint, your desition has been made with the prevailing Party, which is Democrat for now.

    • Evermyrtle

      @deebar You are right, only to a point. There are many, many corrupt Republicans but there are many, many decent Conservative Christians who are Republicans. Not so with the Democrats. Oh, I m not saying there are not any there are some, who are just too stupid to realize how dirty, how corrupt the Democrats are.

      • LCS

        @Evermyrtle  @deebar
         Check back to the Democrat Convention for verification of the bankrupted Democrat Party.  Our Father GOD cannot bless those kinds of  political shenanigans!

  • deebar

    I absolutely hate this format . Whom ever set it up needs to do some modifications .

    • Tony Ruiz

      @deebar   Don’t worry, it won’t be up long

  • Warrior of Christ

    I didn’t say eliminate the electoral college.  The electoral college is a brilliant system to assure representation of all Americans, all of the states, and not just people from high population centers.  By allowing federal voting districts a specifically designated delegate at the convention then the desires of that individual district will be representated at the convention.  The way it stands now only the state desires are representated at the convention (for 48 states).  But if the electoral college system is changed to represent districts then the limits of power will be distributed to an even lower, more basic level.  Under a revised system power will be nearly down to the level of the county, which is the most basic unit of governmental power in the American system.  The basic unit of power is the county not the central government (formerly known as the federal government).  We have it backwards in the 21st century.  The central elitists and demogogues hold the power (like the Politboro of the former Soviet Union).  The old American republic has died.  It is time to resurrect the old American system and return the real power to the county.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @Warrior of Christ       I hoped we had enough fellow Americans to prevent this. We don’t. Running for president is only a popularity contest, and obama is more popular than America WAS

      • LCS

        @Tony Ruiz  @Warrior of Christ
         The entitlement ideoogy/philosophy won the day, and if that is what matters most, then nothing else does matter, as far as trying to inform folks is concerned.

      • DanielWatland

        @Tony Ruiz  @Warrior of Christ
         That is correct Tony, because the people who really run “everything” are the 100 member Trilateral Commission.

    • Mjritter

      @Warrior of Christ you still got it wrong. The old system still is what we use today for the electoral college. When we vote for the president, we are voting for the electoral college. Since the state receives the # of representatives plus 2 Senators, where do you put the 2 senators. To base it on the county level makes little sense. Also, except in 2 states, the vote represent the will of the people for each state. All you are doing is micromanaging the election. If you want to go to the county level, lets go to the street level. Lets just go to popular vote. The electoral college is not perfect. But it is a unique system and hash worked out they way our forefathers wanted.

  • DanielWatland

    The fatal blow that we will all suffer comes from rising cost of health. In WI state workers went from  $3,000 co-pay plan to a $6.000. Health Care on average doubles evey ten years, while our pay raises do not keep up.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @DanielWatland   No, the fatalities will come from fatal blows…beheadings

  • tarco

    It is no surprise that Romney lost.  It started even before he was nominated.  Lying is a deadly sin as we have seen it this past election.  The sad part of it all everyone suffers as our nation takes its status as a third world country. Sadly It is the aim of the higher powers of government  to destroy the second amendment and our sovereignty as a country. I doubt if many of them in Washington are thinking of the consequences of their actions.  We all have ourselves to blame because we allowed this to happen by not paying attention to what is going on.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @tarco    I hoped we had enough fellow Americans to prevent this. We don’t. Running for president is only a popularity contest, and obama is more popular than America is

    • Tony Ruiz

      @tarco    Oh well now, tarco. You wouldn’t know the truth if you stumbled over it…and you did. You’re one of those denialists who keep us shaking our heads with the incredulity of how anybody with even half a brain can come to the conclusions you do. When God was passing out brains you evidently thought He said trains and said you weren’t going anywhere. You didn’t.

    • Evermyrtle

      @tarco You are correct! There were many points against him. He, in the past supported same sex marriage  and abortion, he even said recently that it did not bother him to place an orphan child in the home of two married same sex people, and I can tell you most   people will fight over how our children are treated, than anything else About the Christian part, I do not know about that, but I do know what the Mormons greatest hero, said about GOD and JESUS CHRIST, and if he believes that garbage, he WAS NO CHRISTIAN. I won’t go int that, again now. Before we take a stand we should look up Smith’s writings, they are posted on the internet.

      • LCS

        @Evermyrtle  @tarco
         Joseph Smith was a FALSE prophet!

        • Mjritter

          @LCS @Evermyrtle @tarco in your mind but not to millions

        • Evermyrtle

          @LCS  @tarco  Actually, I would say he is a disciple of Satan. He is teaching lies about GOD and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. He was sent by Satan to fool as many and turn them away from GOD as possible. He made might big mark against the Christian  peoples, because look at he number who he has fooled who might have otherwise been Christian. I can’t even begin to imagine how many he has turned away from GOD by teaching these lies.  Why don’t and these people seek to find out the truth I do not believe that many, many of them have a clue about the evil he promoted. That should be a lesson to us as Christians, be careful what you believe and if you read and study GOD’S WORD you will be prepared to pick out the lies. If you have doubts be sure to check it out with GOD’S WORD..

        • DanielWatland

          @Evermyrtle  @LCS  @tarco
           When differences occur, which it will, one way I have tested it is; ponder the statement and consider how it glorifys God.  How does cutting social security glorify God? Allowing nothing for the poor and needy gloify God. Deregulation on loans? I mean, the list goes on and on and it becomes very apparent which doesw and does not after considering a couple

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @Evermyrtle  @LCS  @tarco I don’t believedI said anything about Social Security!  After all I’m receiving Social Security . My late husband died without receiving one cent after paying for it about 35 years, between us we paid into the SS fund around 70 years.  I do not want it cut, that in my main income, I want as much of my money back that I can get..

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Evermyrtle  @tarco    Romney is not a Christian, he is a Mormon. Kennedy was a Catholic; both the latter are false religions. Only those of us who are reborn Christians will see God. ONLY. My family tree was all Catholic and I wasted 40 years as one but now much of my family is saved and the others won’t be in Heaven. Most of you won’t either for “the path is narrow….”   Ignorance is rampant as evidenced by this election and by Jay Leno’s “man on the street” interviews. I can’t imagine how those people even feed themselves.

        • DanielWatland

          @Tony Ruiz  @Evermyrtle  @tarco
           In the end times the Bible telss us Brother shall turn against Brother… The book “Kingdom of the Cults” lists Mormans as a cult.

        • Mixture V ranks

          @Tony Ruiz  @Evermyrtle  @tarco Your statements about Romney and Kennedy are correct.  Beyond that, the statements made here are incorrect. 
           
          Mormonism rejects Christianity but shares all of its moral values.  But it does not share Christianity’s spiritual values.  That’s a big difference. 
           
          The Catholic Church is Christian and preaches all of Christianity’s moral and spiritual values as do the legitimate Protestant denominations..  Like any institution made of men, it has its faults.  ALL Christian denominations are subject to that.   Statements such as this one — “Only those of us who are reborn Christians will see God. ONLY.” — are fatuous and presumptuous at the very least.  Only God knows the heart of a Christian [and everyone else, too] and only God will make that judgment, when the time comes.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Evermyrtle  @tarco   Well my dear, I’m 73 and know the Word; as an ex-Catholic some 35 years ago and now reborn Christian I know that only those who accept Christ as their Savior will see Heaven. Period. I didn’t say Catholics can’t go to Heaven…or anybody else, but they must have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

        • DanielWatland

          @Mixture V ranks  @Tony Ruiz  @Evermyrtle  @tarco
           Lest a man be born again, he can not see the Kingdom of God. Lest a man be born of Water and of the Spirit, he can not enter into the Kingdom of God. He that is born of flesh is flesh, he that is born of the Spirit is Spirit. Does this make sence to you Mixture?

        • Tony Ruiz

          @DanielWatland  @Evermyrtle  @tarco   Yes, we Christians know this

        • Mixture V ranks

          @Tony Ruiz  @Evermyrtle  @tarco I didn’t say Catholics can’t go to Heaven…or anybody else, but they must have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
           
          Well, that’s a start at least.  The point being made here is that Christians of any denomination may be going to Heaven, if they believe on Christ as their Savior.  That is for the Lord to decide and ONLY He.  “Only those of us who are reborn Christians will see God. ONLY. My family tree was all Catholic and I wasted 40 years as one but now much of my family is saved and the others won’t be in Heaven. Most of you won’t either for “the path is narrow….”   To me that reads as if you didn’t learn much in church in the first place.  Where were you during Confirmation?  Sleeping?  The quote of yours here is a bit smug I find.  It seems to me that Jesus did have something to say about this in His dealings with the Pharisees.

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @Tony Ruiz  @tarco  The anti-Christian multitudes in the world today was  listed in the Bible, The  New Testament if filled with the happenings of the last or end days. Unless JESUS comes back we will be persecuted right herein the USA for our faith, in fact it is going on right now and it can only get worse.

        • DanielWatland

          @Evermyrtle  @Tony Ruiz  @tarco
           Exactly. I always look at what Jesus did to hang on the cross for us. I have not yet suffered unto blood (Hebrews11) The “Face of the Martred” is a book talking of all the Christ followers being killed for their faith in God right now. It is already upon us, but not nearly as bad here as there.

        • Mixture V ranks

          @DanielWatland  @Tony Ruiz  @Evermyrtle  @tarco Naturally!  But I don’t see it contradicting anything I’ve said here.  Do you?

        • Evermyrtle

          @Tony Ruiz  @tarco What gave you the impression that I was either a Catholic or a Mormon? I have had little to say abot the Catholic Church but I have bee trying to let people know about  the treasons committed by Mormons who follow Joseph Smith.

        • Evermyrtle

          @Tony Ruiz  @tarco You are right, in not saying where other  people are going, especially to hell, that is unfair judgment. That is not our call, it belongs to GOD, alone

      • Mjritter

        @Evermyrtle @tarco and you have a problem with placing a kid in a loving home that just happens to be of 2 sane sex people? How anti-family

        • Evermyrtle

          @Mjritter  @Evermyrtle  @tarco  Are you a liberal? Are you a “queer?? If not, why do you care?. If you are, you need to know that homosexuality is an abomination, to the same GOD  that created the universe and everything in in and I am for anything that HE teaches. I am not the anti-GOD homosexual loving person like many people I read about and hear about. I deplore all the evil that HE tells us about. I will stand with HIM if I stand stand alone with HIM.

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @Evermyrtle  Prorbably… But mainly just peppering the pages with REVISIONIST HISTORY spawned in marxism. So typical.

    • Mixture V ranks

      @tarco “Sadly It is the aim of the higher powers of government  to destroy the second amendment and our sovereignty as a country.”
       
      And this has been the aim of liberals from the outset.

      • Mjritter

        @Mixture V ranks @tarco not at all. I don’t see where guns have been taken away from you?

  • O_Rock

    Depends on what the car is.

  • Brabbie2002

    Do all of you get the feeling that mjritter is some kind of liberal professor that only quotes history and facts as he remembers them?  It bothers me that he is so hell bent on picking fights.  If the others on this site wish to rant, and I do, it is a release of the anxiety we feel as we watch our beloved country tip over the cliff and disappear.  If you wish to praise odumbass and his greasy minions, kindly do so on a different site and leave we real Americans to lick our wounds and plan our futures – which will most likely save your sorry ass also (unfortunately).

    • Mjritter

      @Brabbie2002 your arrogance and anti-American attitude is repugnant. First, you are no more American than I am. You surly are no more Patriotic. I have never wished I’ll will upon anyone here. I do enjoy the responses immeasurably. I actually wish I could respond to all, but it takes to much time to load. But I will say that the amount of hypocrisy and vitriolic attacks only proves my point even more. Almost everyone here is “preaching to the choir.” And you learn what? What fools you are? How wrong you are? It surly can’t be how right you are?? The American people have repudiated your brand of hate and discourse. The fact that you continue to make up facts of history to try to prove a point constantly shows how out of touch you are with reality. Your claim of love for this country is great, well so is mine. Everyday when I look at the graves in Arlington National Cemetery, a place where my first house is part of now, and where my parents and sister are buried, I give thanks to the 600,000 buried there so that people like you and me can live free, to argue and rant, sometimes over the silliest of items. I don’t know about many here, but at the airport, I stop military in uniform and say thanks.. Maybe some here should try it. There are good people on the right and left, Jimmy Stewart, a General in the AF reserves and Henry Fonda were as Dar right & left as one could be, but remained best friends. They never once questioned each others patriotism. Maybe it’s a lesson people here should take to heart. You can call Obama all the names you want, so was as many attacks on his patriotism, but the cast majority of comThe electorate not only am disagrees with you, but repudiates your brand of patriotism. I by no means support OBAMA on many issues, but that in itself means I disagree with his presidency. I do believe strongly that decisions made, are made with the best intentions and with keeping the US safer. It’s so easy to be a Monday QB, to have 20-20 hindsight. We also, as humans want all decisions to go the way we want them to. It doesn’t work that way. In politics, we make decisions, we make compromises.. Compromise to many seems to be a bad word. Without it, you accomplish little.. Abs we’ve seen that over and over on both sides. Hopefully, with Rush and McConnell not getting their wish of a 1 term Obama, both sides will not draw the line in the sand but will govern in a responsible way. As the loser in the Indian Senate race once said.. (To paraphrase), I believe in compromise when the otherwise comes to my side of thinking…. He lost.. No side has exclusive rights to what’s best for the USA. And I would also state that there are no easy answers. But where good honest men disagree, honest negotiations can prevail. Neither side will get everything they want. And until we stop punishing people for doing what’s right. We lose.. Have a nice weekend and thank a Vet everyday, and remember Veterans Day coming up!

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Mjritter  @Brabbie2002    What are YOU a vet of, The People’s Republic of —–?

        • Mjritter

          @Tony Ruiz @Brabbie2002 ignorance must be the norm with you. We are a republic… Even the pledge says so.. BTW, what do you know of the Pledge of Allegiance? Did you know it was written by a devout SOCIALIST? Did you know it’s been changed 4 times, the lat being on 1954….

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @Mjritter Here we go peppering the pages with REVISIONIST HISTORY marxist drivel…

      • Howdy Doody Conservative

        @Mjritter  @Brabbie2002  Yep, Yep….here it is…”I by no means support OBAMA on many issues” Just as we thought. The Libterd spewing his revisionist history and progressive liberal MARXIST world view. He must be a disciple of Alinsky like his savior , Oslimy as he sure supports the tactics taken out of the marxist playbook.

  • Brabbie2002

    You wouldn’t know a Christian if they walked up and shook your hand.   You are too in love with yourself to make any sense…Plus, I do know my history and I do know that Islam did make some great discoveries – they also swept across North Africa killing everyone that wouldn’t convert – men, women, children all on the say so of a thief, child molester and murderer named Mohammed and now they threaten to do the same to anyone alive today.   As for the Chinese, they are a wonderful race with grand inventions and they are trying to buy an island off the east coast of America….Guess they want to keep an eye on their investments!

    • DanielWatland

      @Brabbie2002
       Fox news deals with all kinds of inconsistacies and out of context statements. You say a child molester. This results in lack of knowledge of other country’s laws. For example: Mohamad doesn’t recognize 18 being the legal age of consent; they can marry at 12. You can’t impose our laws into theirs. I’m primarilly reaching out to Christians that want to study Gods Word for the base of all Truth. After Christ was crucified the number of Christians rose to about 1 million. Mohamad and his father in-law led their army against all Christians and killed them all; or so they thought.  In China, there are two classes 20% in wealth and 80% in piverty. I don’t want that for our country. You can praise the Chinese, but we have Unions working hard to prevent that from invading our country. I am a life member of the Machinist Union and take great pride in negotiating contracts that helped fellow Americans heads above water. I’m a Democrat trying to explain the truth to everyone that has been misled by Fox.

      • LCS

        @DanielWatland  @Brabbie2002
         Dear brother in faith, YOU have been DUPED!!!

        • DanielWatland

          @LCS  @Brabbie2002
           do you have a passage for me to look at LSC?

        • LCS

          @DanielWatland  @Brabbie2002
           Unions began as a good thing, but corrupt, union bosses have turned them into a harmful entity with  their greedy demand for ever-increasing, entitement/perks. We know of a now deceased union friend who actually received a larger retirement paycheck, than he did when on the job! That CANNOT be sustained.  Our government is right now spending $10 billion a day while taking in $6 bilion.  That CANNOT be long sustained  and U.S. Senate Leader, Harry Reid is trying to bully the Republican House into capitulating to massively increasing the debt ceiling and accepting every other insane, spending binge which the Republican House has been trying to hold the line on! This election was not a mandate for Obama and company to move his agenda!  It was a result of people who continue to hold out their hands for ever increaseing entitlements at taxpayer expense, and that is a purely SELFISH attitude!  We need some “ask not what your country can do fo you but instead, ask what you can do for your country” mentality, instead of give me, give me, give me!

        • DanielWatland

          @LCS  @Brabbie2002
           I agree with some but, If a person believes there is coruption in unions, run for that positions and change it. We use the same parlimentory procedures for office. Where do you put the priority of greed compared with selfishness and why not spek to those not deserving their benefits.

    • Mixture V ranks

      @Brabbie2002 Not bad on the history of Islam!

  • Brabbie2002

    Texas has the right to secede from the union.  Check out their constitution when they became a state.  They kept that right.   It is in bold print!   They probably had people just like you when they signed into statehood, so they kept that out available.   And if you don’t like the way I write my answers, quit writing back.  We could argue all day, but I refuse to listen to the likes of you and your type that profess to be something they aren’t and will quote anything they can to promote odumbass.

    • Evermyrtle

      @Brabbie2002  I believe that every red state should take the initiative to succeed, and  elect our own Conservative Christian leader! I even have a couple of great possibilities for SC.

      • Tony Ruiz

        @Evermyrtle  @Brabbie2002   I really like you

        • Mjritter

          @Tony Ruiz @Evermyrtle @Brabbie2002 idiots like company..

      • Mjritter

        @Evermyrtle @Brabbie2002 can’t happen so stop your nightmare. Btw, the word is Secede

      • DanielWatland

        @Evermyrtle  @Brabbie2002
         You already have a Christiam leader who has been following the most concervitive path as legaly posible. If you are going to fight the abortion issue, you will more than likely loose. If you want to propose new legislation giving single parents and opportunity for their off spring you can win. Both have and are passed and promoted by Democrats. It is Obama that has and wants to give more to our kids to support their education, Republicans shoot it down. Now that the U.S. Senate hasw the majority, we will be able to help single parents and young lady’s considering abortion a positive future for them to choose life over abortion. Is this so hard to understand? I am a Christian fighting for Christian ideals and you Republicans have been shooting me down.

        • JimGrab

          @DanielWatland  @Evermyrtle  @Brabbie2002
           I have a hard time discerning just what you are for and against.
          But in either case let me say this. That Sandra Fluke that said it was costing $3000 a year for birth control and felt that the taxpayers should pay for it. I suppose she also believe that we should pay for her abortions.
          $3000? Sandra, as I understood it, was single. In this day and age of STD’s you would think that she would not want to take a chance of being infected and use condoms 
          I don’t know the cost of condoms but even if they are $2.00 each, that represents 1500 condoms divided by 365 day a year shows us that she would have to be having sex 4+ times a day. Maybe Sandra had better spend more time studyinig because as it is, she really doesn’t seem to bright!
          You can not tell me that 1.6 million birth control methods are failing each and every year. It boils down to responsibility. Thanks to political correct thinking it has become toeasy to say “what the hell, don’t bother with the birth control, we cal always kill it!”
          I don’t give a damn at what point science says life begins, The fact is that once conceived, what was conceived would one day be a full bloom human being if left to come to full term.
          Shame on and damn anyone that is so irresponsible as to abort a child that could have been prevented from being conceived if they had taken the time and necessary precautions!

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @Evermyrtle  @Brabbie2002 Who and where is my Christian leader?? I see not a shadow of any Christian who might be my leader, so enlighten me. GOD’S WORD does tell me that Christian will be loosing to the point that HE will send HIS SON back to collect HIS people in the clouds, the dead and the living.  both. Therefore I have no doubts that I will be a loser when it come to fighting evil BUT that will not stop me. I refuse to join the winning side if it is wrong and evil. HIS WORD tells me, “Thou shall not kill!” That means other  people, just because a baby has not been born yet does not mean it is not a person. Besides there is partial birth abortion that Obama contemplates reviving. Do you have a clue what that is? It is so horrible I do not think that they will even allow me to describe that on this site. I do not want my comment to be  cut therefore I won’t describe. But I will say it only a barbarian will perform or allow her baby to be murdered in such a way.
           
          I had begun to admire you sense of what is right by reading your post and i am so disappointed that you favor killing the most precious humans, tiny helpless, that cannot even move over if they see the knife or the poison coming.  Just lie there and wait to be slain!!

      • DanielWatland

        @Evermyrtle  @Brabbie2002
         Try the Lee family and organize your confederates. Wave the confederate flag and wear gray. I believe treason has a price tag of 5 years in federal prison.

        • Evermyrtle

          @DanielWatland  @Evermyrtle  @Brabbie2002  I am a confederate from the deep South born and bred and remain one. Do you have a problem with that?  Who is charging me with treason? What is my crime? Being born a confederate? Robert E LE was a hero and in my opinion still a hero. So what!! You didn’t answer my question, who is my Christian leader?
          Will you come to see me, while I am in jail and let me know how our posts are coming along??

    • Mjritter

      @Brabbie2002 it is your arrogance and stupidity. You can quote all you want, the real problem is that a treaty does not supersede the US Constitution, not dies a state constitution. Nowhere in the US Constitution dies it permit secession. The Civil War was fought over that principal. Be it as it may, it ain’t going to happen! You can wish. Dream, veg, whatever… It’s not going to happen. So comeback to the real world and off the crazy med’s you’re taking. And have a great weekend. (FYI my family is from Texas and I’ve lived there for many years)

      • NavyJR

        @Mjritter LEARN HISTORY,, and stop calling yourself an “American” ! You have NO concept what that is or what the Constitution says!!

        • Howdy Doody Conservative

          @NavyJR  @Mjritter Yea! Sure! Go by Mjritters REVISIONIST HISTORY rooted in MARXIST academia. Yea, funny Mjritter telling someone to learn HIS twisted history.

  • DanielWatland

    Here is a fact that will eventually deal a fatal blow to all of us . The rising cost of health care in the private sector is rising at a far greater rate than our wages can keep up with. All I hear is complaining from Republicans as they reject Obama;s lower priced national health care plan. If this nation can’t stay health, it will surely distroy us. Lets stay on track and get this settled.

    • Tony Ruiz

      @DanielWatland   What’s wrong with you? Private sector? Where are you from, Poland? Russia? Former East Germany? To be young is one excuse. To be dumb is another. You are both.

      • Mjritter

        @Tony Ruiz @DanielWatland it is you reply that shows ignorance. Danika was spot on.. PRIVATE SECTOR. We have what’s called INSURANCE COMPANIES. To name a few of the largest ones, UnitedHealthCare (where one of their subsidiaries pled guilty to massive fraud), WellPoint, Humana, Aetna, and HMO Kaiser. Yes private sector. And we spend 2x per capita on healthcare and live less than many countries.. Do your homework..

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @DanielWatland  You’re so stupid as to not justify any time; you’re what we call a ‘lost soul’…go play with yourself (much like you’re doing here in public)

        • Mjritter

          @Tony Ruiz @Tony @DanielWatland your arrogance only demonstrates your immaturity and lack of critical thinking skills. What you are is a person who can’t see the forest thru the trees… Or better yet a deer in the headlights. You can call me names a you want, it doesn’t change who you are and that’s an idiot to reality. Preach to the choir all you want and you learn nothing. If all you listen to are people preaching what you believe in, you learn little. I actually appreciate your passion.. I do not take what you say personally at all. Call me all the names you want.. It shows your anti-Christian attitude. I do not know you personally, and I do not attack you, but your views. But as they say.. “If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.” Still have a nice weekend

        • DanielWatland

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @DanielWatland
           What happens in corporate meetings when a company callapses? So far the owners rake in all the spoiles and and leave with the bank and a great ego of greed.

        • DanielWatland

          @Tony Ruiz  @Mjritter  @Tony
           This is what differtiates Democrats from Republicans. Your anger percieves you.

        • Tony Ruiz

          @DanielWatland  @Mjritter  @Tony   Daniel, please give it a rest; you’re out of your league. And it’s not ‘perceives’, it’s PRECEDES or one of a dozen other like words. Please don’t respond; I won’t open

        • Charie66

          @DanielWatland  @Mjritter  @Tony  Daniel, you tell me what happens when one of Obama’s “green” companies goes bust?  Or any other company he “saved” for that matter?  His cronies, the upper echelon of the company and the union employees get their pensions and payoffs and the peons are tossed aside like so much garbage.  Wake up and smell the sewage!
           
          Free companies have to pay off their bondholders.  Everyone of the big companies that were “saved” by Obama are either in trouble or gone and Obama has profited from every one!

        • Tony Ruiz

          @Mjritter  @Tony  @Tony  @DanielWatland   Don’t tell me what to do. Just kidding. In all seriousness, I know way more than you do. Just kidding again. I am a full blown Christian, a Believer now for some 35 years. But believing isn’t enuff my friend. One must ACCEPT Him. Satan believes.

      • DanielWatland

        @Tony Ruiz
         Come on Tony, Realise what is happening. We are turning into another China. It’s either wealth  or poverty. It’s called a socialised Darwinism. What does age have to do with it?

    • LCS

      There will be no comparison as to how Obamacare will decimate our economy and health care system.  Just saw comments by smal business owners today, at how they arfe laying off workers due to Obamacare:    http://talkstraight.tumblr.com/post/35278516193/small-business-owners-plan-layoffs-in-light-of-election

      • DanielWatland

        @LCS
         The business you are speaking of likely have not been covering their employees at all, thats why they stay incoporated. It’s only commen sence why they will be paying more. I have already seen reports originating from Fox news.

    • JeffReuteler

      @DanielWatland Obama’s national health care is not lower priced.  I am not sure where you get your info from.  All of these uninsured who will be getting, if not already, healtcare coverage at no or little cost will be paid for by higher premiums to those of us who do pay.  Since the early implementations of Obamacare my health care premiums have doubled.  Explain how this is a lower cost plan.  As laid out thus far Obamacare is not fiscally sustainable withot either raising the premiums more or raising taxes too or both.  Some employers are going to circumvent the system by cuttig employees to 30 hour work week and then it wll soley be up to the employee to find health care coverage.  Now explain to me how I will pay for this low cost heath care on 75% of what I currently make and still pay for my other bills.  Then when I drop my health care coverage because it is too expwensive then I  will be punished by the federal governemnt.  So now that you see the facts Daniel tell me how I will save money on ths “low cost health care” you refer to?  By the way under Obama,s leadership my income has gone down.

      • Mjritter

        @JeffReuteler @DanielWatland insurance companies testified that the uninsured added over $1000 to each policy. Where is the “personal responsibility” of the individual? Since by law if they go to the emergency room they must be treated. I’m not for forcing them to buy insurance, but like uninsured motorists fee, if you don’t want to buy insurance, pay an uninsured fee… which for an individual it’s $695 (or 675).

        • DanielWatland

          @Mjritter  @JeffReuteler  @DanielWatland
           Interesting. I came out of poverty and live a decent life now, but I can relate to those in poverty, it sounds like you don’t understand loving your son, but not having any money because a dead beat dad is off with another or in the bar.

        • JeffReuteler

          @Mjritter  @JeffReuteler  @DanielWatland In Michigan there is no uninsured motorist fee, you are rquired to have insurance no matter what and if you don’t you will get fined everytime you get pulled over or go to jail.  If it gets to the point I could not afford health care coverage at least thanks to the Supreme Court determining the fee is a tax I just would include it with the taxes I pay or lump it with my work related expenses.  After all it is a tax.

        • Mjritter

          @JeffReuteler @DanielWatland hate to burst your bubble but the the fee is not a tax, only that the authority comes from Congress’ taxing authority. There are many fees the government charges, all granted under the taxing authority. You have a choice, get insurance or pay a fee… Pretty simple actually. BTW, many states have uninsured motorist fees..

        • DanielWatland

          @JeffReuteler  @Mjritter
           Insurance is always like gambling. When the east coast gets hit with disater, we all pay. A person just never knows when it’s going to be them. National health care also demonstraights humanitariumism in us all. Except Republicans are lacking in that

        • JeffReuteler

          @Mjritter  @JeffReuteler  @DanielWatland I can guarantee you that if at some point I have to pay this tax/ fee I will be listing it as a expense in my itemized dedctions under  legitimate work related expense deduction.  I would never absorb this out of my pocket.

        • JeffReuteler

          @DanielWatland  @Mjritter Humanitariumism is giving from the generoisty of my heart to causes that I beleive in.  Taking my money by force to spend on something I don’t beleive in is stealing.  I don’t gamble either because I can’t afford to.

        • Charie66

          @DanielWatland  @JeffReuteler  @Mjritter  Daniel, you’re so ignorant that it even hurts to read your drivel!  Conservatives/Republican donate to charity by about 5 times more than do Liberals/Democrats.  You can look that up in any statistical website that deals with politics.  You will not find it on a Liberal/Democrat website, just on either Conservative or independent websites.  Mitt Romney donates 14% of his income to charity  Do you tithe (10%)?  Or do you sit around waiting for the government to steal from those who have earned more money than you so they can give it to you?
           
          KJV – Exodus 20:15  “Thou shalt not steal.”

      • DanielWatland

        @JeffReuteler
         I have been on the National Health Care for the past 12 years as a diabled vet. Health care has been doubling ever 10- 12 years for as long as I can Remember, long before Obama took office, so don’t go down that road. Why would you say that? Your income going down has nothing to do with Obama. Every income in the U. S. will go down; when we joined into the foreign market did you think our earnings would go up? When corporate america uses slave labor over seas, our earnings can only go down. Every body knows that. Thats the bases of this election. How will we adjust to help the lower 80% in our nation. The upper 20% don’t need anything except to share the pain of the vast majority of our country. It was Romney at the top of the page on the Trilateral Commission not Obama. Do you know what actually drives prices up? Have you ever heard of Jeb Bush? He sits on the board with the highest paid XO in the history of the U.S.

    • Charie66

      @DanielWatland   The reason the cost of healthcare has escalated in this country is because of the government.  The paperwork and regulations alone of medical doctors and pharmaceutical companies is outrageous and the wild out of sight ability to sue doctors and other medical personnel raises insurance premiums so high hardly anyone can afford to practice anymore.  Plus, with the government threatening to put a cap on the earnings of doctors and other personnel why the hell would you  think that any more people are going into medicine.  I wish the Obama believers would think for a change.  There are equal and opposite reactions to any action.  It’s time American people thought about that.

  • JeffReuteler

    I saw the comment that God answered the prayers of millions twice and gave us Obama.  Actually I know that God did not give us Obama as a blessing but as a curse.  Like when Isreal demanded that they be given a King to be like the other countries God finally relented and gave them Saul.  Well as America has turnd its backs on God and embraced diversity, same sex marriage, abortion , poltical corerectness, and telling us that we can do better without God, I think God finally has said go ahead fine this is what you get.  Oama and the Dems are going to destroy this country.   Maybe then those who survive the mess will finally wake up and turn back to God.  In Second Timothy 3:1-4:9 it talks about we call evil good and good evil (sound familiar) and that the arrogance of man has turned from God and turned to his own pride.  Paul goes on to to tell us as he waits to be executed that we as beleivers must be faithful to God and the scriptures and not follow the folly of man (in this case the majority and their idiotic choice for the next 4years and beyond).  It is only by God’s grace that America has enjoyed the blessings that we have and not by our own devices.  America will not be blessed with the direction that we have chosen.  In Revelation there is no mention of the USA and maybe now we know why.

    • DanielWatland

      @JeffReuteler
       Very well put. If I may add. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end. The pleading being made to spare the distroying of Sodom by Almighty God. If there are 50 rightious in the city… if there are 10 rightious will you spare the city? Lott then gatered up his family and they left the city as fast as they could run. People should know that we will be experiencing many changes in the near future that we are not accustom to because we are not able to change prophecy or pick the time when the end will come. I believe the U.S. will disolve into the world order never to be recognised again. The Trilateral Commission will rule the world and identification marks will be given to all at birth and also given a value for food… We are not to take this mark because it is of the Beast. Listen for the voice of the Lord. Christians will know the voice of their shepard when he calls. The dead in Christ shall rise up first and those that will remain will be caught up in a twinkling of the eye. We need to repent, get our house in order and grab onto as many as will follow. There are still un-told millions. Gods Word says that everyone will have a choice. In that choice, there will be everlasting life with the Lord or the lake of fire. You either go up, or you go down. Your choice. I know where I’m going. I want to finish by running the race, fighting the fight before me.

    • Mjritter

      @JeffReuteler that’s your opinion, but to many good Christians God answered their prayers, not yours. Your views of what a god Christians is no better, nor worse than mine. Maybe one day you’ll see the light, not the darkness

      • JeffReuteler

        @Mjritter  Scriptural teachings are not an opinion.  Perhaps you should do a Biblical study instead of speaking off the top of your head. Scriptures are clear in its teaching  when it comes to godless and immoral leadership of any nation.  Obama is NOT a Chistian and God will not bless this country under his tenue of power.  You are probably not a Christian, and clearly have no understanding of Biblical theology.  Going to any church of any denimination does not make anyone a Christian.

  • DanielWatland

    7 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices at the time of Roe v Wade were Republican appointed, one of the two Democratically appointed support District Atty. Wade. A big mistake Christians make in legislation, is that our laws today are based on  all U.S. citizens and not Christians alone. The abortion decision is very solid and will not change until the hearts of the Justices change which is based upon the people they represent and the indoctrination of our text books. In the mean time, just because you are against abortion, doesn’t make youo pro life. As the chair of one of the many resolutions committee, I proposed giving a greater amount of finance to single parents that received the most support of all resolutions. NRL do not understand the reasoning behind this nor do they know how it would help a young woman to choose life over abortion. This advanced all the way to the legislative floor from a Democratic Congressman. It was the majority Republicans that over whelmingly shot it down. I want you to give these facts some thought .

  • JimGrab

    For all those reading these posts – no matter if you are for or against Obama – you should know, if you do not know  already that the panel that has been described as the “Death Panel” otherwise know as the Independant Panel Advisory Board (IPAB) consisting of 15 persons, none of which are required to be doctors, will have tha power to make rules about if you will or won’t and what  treatment you will get under Medicare.
    They will send their suggestions to congress which can add to or take away from that suggestion BUT they can not vote it down. The IPAB will have the power to make law concerning your medical care and neither the president or congress can interfere!
    “Well” you say “that is against the Constitution!”
    Well, not in this case. They and NOT CONGRESS will make law.
    And you keep telling yourself that the IPAB doesn’t have the power to make law when they are denying you treatment because they figure the cost of that treatment is more than the valueof what expected life you have left!
    Since when has the Obama administration done anything that is required by the Constitution? How many times have they made end runs around it and congress?
    There will be a 7 month window in 2017 that Congress can abolish the IPAB and if they do not do so – from there on the IPAB will be firmly entrenched, with ful power to make rules and laws as to your health care and after that window neither the president or t he congress can do a damn thing about their rulings!
    There is only one beautiful part about this – sort of like poetic justice. That is that those that voted for Obama will also get cut down by the double edge sword they have created in his re-election.
    Now –  those Latino’s that voted for him because of his stand on flooding this country with illegals,  the great unwashed, uneducated that voted for him so that he can take care of them from cradle to grave without any obligations on their part, the gays that saw him as the great decider, the blacks that voted for him simply because he was black disregarding the fact that he either has no idea what the hell he is doing or that he knows exactly what he is doing to destroy this once great country, those that saw free health insurance as a great idea – Now, they and all the others that saw his give away programs so wonderful have to ask themselves- will he live up to those promises or was he just using them to get their votes. I certainly hope they don’t expect to get special attention from him when the U.S. of A. starts turning in to Greece. Hope they know that since they didn’t have anything to start that they will be the first to feel  the full effect of wanting and not getting since those that gave to them so freely through their taxes will start to see a necessity to take care of themselves above all others.
    You dumb asse