Say Hello to Roderick Scott – the anti-George Zimmerman?


Did you notice during the George Zimmerman trial how the media kept repeating the salacious question “What if Trayvon Martin had been white?” They acted as if this question was the perfect response to Zimmerman defenders. They pretended that this was a question without a “safe” answer, but in reality, the question had already been answered.

In April of 2009 Mr. Roderick Scott awoke at 3am to the sounds of three young men breaking into cars on his street. He called the police and went down to the street to make sure the young men did not flee before the police arrived. He shouted at the three to “freeze” and told them that the police were coming soon. The three boys stood before the big man obviously considering what they should do.

That’s when Christopher Cervini (17) rushed at Mr. Scott uttering “I’ll get you” or “I’ll get him.” Roderick Scott fired twice, killing the teenager. The trial that followed was again a case of prosecutorial overreach, as they tried to charge Mr. Scott with manslaughter. Fortunately for Mr. Scott, a jury of his peers agreed with him that he did only what was needed to protect himself.

Afterwards the prosecutor opined, “I just hope it’s not a message to this community… that you have the right to shoot an unarmed 17-year-old kid for breaking into a car.” The problem is that Mr. Scott did not shoot young Christopher Cervini for breaking into his car, but for attacking him. While the Cervini family may now be in much pain over the loss of their son, he brought himself to his tragic end through a series of terrible choices. Roderick Scott had every right to protect himself; he did what he should have… and a jury of his peers agreed.

Oh, and Roderick Scott was a 42 year old black man about the size of an NFL linebacker. Christopher Cervini was a skinny, 17 year old white kid with a little bit of marijuana in his system. Scott was justified in the killing of the younger man not because of the crime that Cervini had committed, but because Scott rightfully feared for his own safety.

aclunaacpabsentThere was no “white uproar” over the shooting of a young white man at the hands of a black man with a “hero-complex.” The NAACP didn’t show up to argue that the shooter should be jailed, or that the Justice Department should pursue charges of civil rights violations against the man for killing Cervini. Jesse Jackson, Al Shartpon, and all of the other race hate baiters stayed home for the trial. The trial was treated as a tragic situation that a young man brought on himself by turning to violence.

Which is exactly how the George Zimmerman case should have been treated. The next time someone tells you, “What if…?” You can tell them it already happened, and the outcome was exactly the same… minus the racial tension.

 







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Onan is a graduate of Liberty University (2003) and earned his M.Ed. at Western Governors University in 2012. Onan lives in the Atlanta area with his wife, Leah. They have three children and enjoy the hectic pace of life in a young family. Onan and Leah are members of the Journey Church in Hiram, GA. Catch him at www.eaglerising.com

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  • SilasDoGood

    How convenient that the NEGROID community FORGETS about this.  Two faced BAS_ARDS!!

    • KABAR2

      SilasDoGood 
      Name calling dosen’t help anyone…. it just makes people feel justified in their beliefs towards another race …. yeah see that… see what they called us!  we can have a discussion without the need for this.

      • SilasDoGood

        KABAR2 SilasDoGood  Check your facts, Negroid is not name calling.  It is a race of people.

  • ChrisDonTremaine

    If Trayvon had white, green, purple, orange, red, yellow, etc skin there would not have been a difference. There would have only been a difference if Trayvon did not attack George with MMA style ground and pound.

  • mudguy

    It was obvious that Mr Scott was just as much raciest as Zimmerman was.

    • DrSamuelSmith

      mudguy I agree with you if your point is that if Zimmerman was racist so was Scott for the same reasons.

      • mudguy

        DrSamuelSmith mudguy Yes that was my point.

  • Joy J

    First of all, how does anyone who is watching someone/anyone (young men or otherwise) breaking into cars or committing any other criminal acts know if they are carrying firearms or not???  That should not be the issue – the issue should be – why are these young men breaking into cars??  And why do the criminals seem to get all of the sympathies – why does the prosecution always think there is something to prosecute??  Why isn’t the prosecution going after the other young men who were breaking into cars??  If these young men hadn’t been breaking into cars in the first place, there would have been no reason to call the police, try to force these young men to stay put until the police arrive.  Why are these angry young men out thinking it’s perfectly alright to commit crimes in the first place??  Why is the guy who was trying to protect his property being attacked by the prosecution for shooting a criminal??    
    Why do convicted criminals have better living accommodations, food, medical care, gyms, etc. than a lot of law abiding America citizens???  Criminals seem to get sentenced to Club Med!!!  There is so much wrong with that end of the criminal justice system that no one wants to talk about!!!

  • Inspiri

    Dear Onan Coca: I think you tragically framed the issue in the incorrect context for your repugnant rant on Travon case. The issue is not that Sharpton is a race- baiter, and he had no white on black violence to exploit. It was that Travon was minding his own business, committed no crime, and was walking home with “skittles in his hand”. Zimmerman was told repeatedly by police to stand down, “not to pursue”. It was obvious to police that Zimmerman was racially profiling a young black man. That is why the outrage from Sharpton and the rest of the communities across America. But that might not matter to the type of journalism you seek to put forth.

    • justthefaxpleez

      Inspiri   I love the way you have twisted the facts.  “Repeatedly told to stand down”?  Actually, the only thing the dispatcher, who is not a police officer, said was ‘we don’t need you to do that’.   ‘Not to pursue’ was never uttered by the police or anyone else for that matter.  My only conclusion is that you must be a black man upset by the outcome and thus you have made up your own version instead of the facts as they have been presented.  Shame on you.

      • BobMcCormick

        justthefaxpleez Inspiri 
        Finally someone gets it! Zimmerman had no obligation to follow the instructions of a dispatcher. Yet he did so anyway. He can be heard on the tape replying “OK” when the dispatcher SUGGESTED that Zimmerman need not follow the suspect.
        You don’t want to know how I would have replied to the dispatcher or an actual cop for that matter. Don’t need to follow the suspect; of course not. Just let him disappear, that way the cops won’t need to deal with him if and when they actually show up.

      • Inspiri

        well, i stand corrected. I replaced “we dont need you to do that” with “not to pursue”. I get I spoke without transcript with police based on my impression of what was said and did not read them first hand. But what does that have to do with anything I said above??!! Travon was still an innnocent victim and Zimmerman was instructed by police not to follow him. This blog post seeks to provoke ill will towards the protestors; to de-legitimize a community in outrage.  Spare my your “whack” analysis.

    • KABAR2

      Inspiri 
      The part you ignor sir is at the time Zimmerman was returning to his car and was jumped by Trayvon he became the agressor it doesn’t matter that he had gone to the store to buy skittles what matters is he attacked Zimmerman had Trayvon continued home there would not have been a story because he would still be alive. So please stop trying to scue the facts and make Trayvon into an innocent… the Jury thought otherwise.

    • dasbunker

      InspiriDid you watch the trial?
      Last time I check it is still a crime to sucker punch someone in the nose and then continue the attack.
      Zimmerman was defending himself from a thug.

      • Inspiri

        I am not arguin the Zimmerman verdict. Some of you struggle with the language. I already admitted I misspoke when I said Zimmerman was told repeatedly when he was told once. And I used the explicit directive “do not pursue” when police used the implicit directive “we don’t need you to do that”. “That” being do not follow Travon. You people are argumentative and block signals from reaching your brain. I already explained my exception with Onan blog post. “I’m surrounded by idiots”

        • freemind

          Inspiri You’re surrounded by your skull, nothing else. If you feel pressure in your brain, don’t blame others. You’re very self-centered and way off target!

        • BobMcCormick

          Inspiri
          Incredible! You still do not see that a DISPATCHER, not identifying himself as a police officer has no authority to issue commands to anyone over the phone.
          The “police” did not use an “implicit directive” a dispatcher made a suggestion; an ill advised suggestion in my view. And since Zimmerman did what the dispatcher asked, what is your point.
          Who is the Idiot here?

        • Inspiri

          OMG …YOU FOUND THE PERVERBIAL SMOKING GUN!

    • wowman

      Inspiri If you would stop your double standards as you all seem to do. Open those ears that God gave you …there were 2 911 calls. First one had Zimmerman watching the YOUNG MAN. The second one then told Zimmerman they had it and he walked BACK TO HIS VEHICLE.  Cause he was doing his job.

      The only profiling and racism that was brought in by Martian when HE MADE THE COMMENT “CREEPY ASS CRACKER”  YES THAT IS A RACIST REMARK AGAINST WHITE SO STOP YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD CRAP
      Next it was proven that Martian was not very far from home and should have just walked through that door but decided to go after Zimmerman All do to the continual use of LEAN made with skittles, Arizona drink and cough syrup.  Which has been medically proven to cause paranoia and aggression. which leads you to believe per his facebook he had to prove he was a bad arse MF to the boys in the hood against his own racist belief on a WHITE MAN. 
      Knocking Zimmerman down he pinned him, so as you state this unarmed child that pinned a man down and began beating him is okay. My question is where did he lean these moves ….grade school?  Where did he learn his racist hate from…..parents who are not married, father and girlfriend have been for a very very long time. It is a known fact mother had just kicked Trayvon out of her house because she could no longer control him for all the trouble he was in.
      So I am here to say that I am sick and tired of the profiling race card crap and you and yours double standards up past my eye balls and I will fight back with truth and if you don’t like it there is a boat or plane leave for Africa everyday see if you think it is better there since your president just told them that they shouldn’t have AC or cars cause it would boil the earth over.

  • LoreneCribbinsKesler

    Why is no one pointing out the significance of the skittles and Arizona fruit drink (not iced tea) that Trayvon had? Two of the three ingredients needed to make the street drug LEAN…which after long term use causes aggressive behavior and paranoia? The evidence of which showed up in Trayvon’s autopsy report as “anomalies” in the brain tissue, and “fatty” deposits in the liver? The evidence of this drug use was on his Facebook postings, but not allowed to be presented by the defense. GZ told 911 that the suspicious person appeared “to be on drugs, or something…” GZ should have let TM know he was with the neighborhood watch, but TM was nearly at his dad’ place, according to his friend on the phone, but then went back to where GZ was, and began the assault that ended in his death. This was no innocent child. He liked MMA style fighting, also mentioned on Facebook / Twitter. A tragedy, YES, but not just for TM and his family, a tragedy for GZ and his family as well, AND a tragedy for our nation that Race-Baiters Inc. is using this event which was NOT race based, to get the black community riled up, more than likely so they won’t pay attention to the Immigration Bill which will put all Americans, especially young less educated people, behind the illegals who are trying to get jobs…Obamacare will be waived for them, saving employer

    • LoreneCribbinsKesler

      …saving employers $2000-5000 per employee…so who would want to hire, or keep, American workers if they can be replaced for much less $’s? This case is a distraction from the real issues!

  • Inspiri

    Dear Onan Coca: I think you tragically framed the issue in the incorrect context for your repugnant rant on Travon case. The issue is not that Sharpton is a race- baiter, and he had no white on black violence to exploit. It was that Travon was minding his own business, committed no crime, and was walking home with “skittles in his hand”. Zimmerman was told by police “not to pursue”. It was obvious to police that Zimmerman was racially profiling a young black man “these [explitive] always get away”. In contract, you pointed out the crime committed above, and the rest of the story speaks for itself. The outrage from Sharpton and the rest of the communities across America is because a young black man was a crimeless victim; It was an unfortunately tragedy. It is in my opinion that this contrast is obvious and this conclude you chose to ignore it to incite others to disregard the outrage by neighbors all across this country. It is insensitive.

    • Inspiri

      At no time do I state Zimmerman should have been convicted of murder oranslaughter. I said I agreed with AG that law ought to be reviewed. I made a general statement about my feelings toward law, not verdict. The only reason I talk about Zimmerman’s history because all of you have been talking smack all day about the dead victim. Have you shame? Walking while high is not a crime, but then toxicology report said Travon had trace THC levels and had nothing to do with his behavior…probably smoked says earlier.

    • Inspiri

      But it’s not about shame is it. The overt insensitive and blatant racist comments are about racial prejudice

    • exclntman

      It is obvious you are black.  You poor victim are always being picked on.  Is that why you roam with four of five in your groups to gang bang and innocent person and steal his money.

    • Inspiri

      Hey hey heeeeey. That’s stuff is not true. Read the article I sent you from Miami Herald. They investigated all of this. I mean, you are starting to come off as angry at Travon. Take it easy big guy. He’s dead…you don’t have to make sh!t up about him. And no, never cocain. He smoke pot like 30% of American teenagers today.

    • SusanCarolPilgrene

      If it was oblivious too the police that it was a case of profiling , how come it took so long for him too be charged with anything, and when George said that these_____ always get away with this stuff, how do u know he wasn’t talking about criminals, and not race, u don’t , the facts say the opposite of what u think , thinking doesn’t get u convicted facts do .

    • SusanCarolPilgrene

      If it was obvious too the police that Zimmerman was racially profiling Trayvon , why didnt they arrest and hold him, why let him go, I tell u why because they had NO EVIDENCE THAT ZIMMERMAN WAS PROFILING TRAYVON, none!!!

  • GaryAshley

    If a young African American or White American was beating the hell out of me on the ground and said… It’s a good day to die! I would do the same thing what George Zimmerman did! Protect myself by putting a bullet in him for attacking me.’  If T Martin would of said to George… I am passing through here to visit my family who live at so and so address. He would of been alive today. But no he had an attitude problem!  He was troublemaker in school. Smoking Pot, tattoo gangsta!  What a fine 17 year old to be doing.  Womanizing and Low Life  Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson are nothing but troublemakers also for protesting and rioting in America!

  • BobMcCormick

    It’s unbelievable how much time and virtual ink we are wasting on this. Guilty as charged.
    Here’s the bottom line. It doesn’t matter whether or not Zimmerman is a racist, it doesn’t matter what the dispatcher “ordered Zimmerman to do or if he did it or not. Martin’s criminal past and his face book postings don’t matter, nor does it matter why Martin was out that night.
    The only FACTS that matter are that Martin attacked Zimmerman, had him pinned to the ground and was intent on inflicting potentially lethal injury upon Zimmerman.
    Shoulda, coulda, woulda aside there was a fight, Zimmerman was being assaulted with a deadly weapon (the sidewalk) and he lawfully defended himself. His assailant ended up getting the worst of it.
    End of story. McCormick out!

    • BobE

      BobMcCormick REALLY? So, I can follow a person around at night (scaring them) & then confront them (causing a fight) & then shoot them because I felt I was in danger???

      • Inspiri

        Bob- [according to Zimmerman testimony?] he was walking away from Travon and back to his car. So this is the difference between life and death. The problem is this is simply a one sided testimony and the jury is left to make their own conclusion without hearing from victim. He said; she said cases are problematic on their own, let alone when the victim is dead. But no one seems to be concerned with it. Just a lot of people trying to show victim in the worst possible light. This entire thread is insensitive and repugnant.

        • Inspiri

          It reminds me when a women is blamed for her rape

        • BobMcCormick

          Inspiri You are arguing against yourself. You are right, there is only one side to this story, all we have are the FACTS THAT ARE KNOWN. Zimmerman was pinned to the ground, getting his head pounded into the sidewalk as his injuries show. His side of the story remains consistent, and everything that is known about Martin leads to the conclusion that he was a gangster wannabe destined for more trouble than he was already in. Martin made a decision to attack a creepy ass cracker and he came out the looser. Speculation to the contrary is ignorant and repugnant.

        • Inspiri

          Sounds like he was guilty of Walking while Black. I haven’t heard a single word about Zimmerman. Just a lot of stupid comments that had nothing to do with Travon. We are all prosecutors here…too bad the ones in court trying case never argued as such. In glad we are flippant with deadly force; like a thumbs up or down with life. The law ought to be reviewed because it can lead to premeditated murder defense.

        • hippiebob

          Inspiri Under Sharia Law a woman who is raped is GUILTY of having sex outside of marriage, punishable by 1-3 years in prison. The Muslim rapist may get 6 months to a year , if anything

        • Inspiri

          Thank you for the legal zoom lesson. I’m not arguing with the verdict. I’m not sure how many times I got to say this…but for you, I did it for an old friend. Im happy that no one has been able to defend the abortion made of Onan’s thesis. I’m really not interested in exploiting the pain of both victims in this case. For what it is worth, Movwater- you are brilliant. You out smarted me. You stopped me from spreading untruths and misinformation. You did everyone a service. On behalf of everyone I tried to deceive, you are a hero,

        • exclntman

          Hey stupid America is not governed by Shariah law.  Go to a country that has it if you like it.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          No sounds like he was guilty because Zimmerman said Trayvon was acting suspiciouslyv he said nothing about him being black till he was asked!!

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Yeah but it’s also true that Trayvon supporters are trying too show Zimmerman in the worse possible light, it cuts both ways!!!No I think there’s was evidence too show that trayvon was a wanna be thug , then evidence too show that George was a racist !!!

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          That didnt quite come out the way I meant it , I meant too say that now that trials over we’re hearing alittle more about trayvons background, and there more things pointing toward trayvon being a wanna be thug than George being a racist!

      • BobMcCormick

        BobE BobMcCormick Wrong: You will have a hard way to go proving that a shooting was justified simply because you “felt threatened” only the cops can get away with that, but when  someone is trying to kill you, you absolutely can use deadly force. Even in commie states without stand your ground laws, if you can prove the ability to flee is not possible and your life is threatened, deadly force is justified.

      • Inspiri

        Yes, but you would need to set up your defense as “I had no where to run” …feeling your life is in danger is enough by evidence of story above. If you are unsure throw in a piece of metal, or knife for good measure. That way you don’t have to defend against “skittles in hand”. You hit the mail on head. This license to murder. Just be sure to end the life of your victim so no one gets other side of story. Nuff said

        • Inspiri

          Here’s my theory. Travon gave Zimmerman a 60-second woop-a$$ until he felt perceived threat was neutralized. He was probably standing over zimmerman admiring his work. Zimmerman – beaten and bloodied, and probably humiliated – reached for his gun and took the opportunity to fire off a round. Since their was no struggle. Christopher Serino, a Sanford Police Department investigator who called for Zimmerman’s arrest, told prosecutors in a March 13 report that the fight could have been avoided if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and waited for authorities to arrive. He also said he could have announced himself and his intentions to Travon. The only person guilty of a crime; with a criminal r

        • Inspiri

          Zimmerman had the criminal record. But most everyone here wants to trash the life of the victim. All of YOU ARE RACIST. AND THIS STUPID BLOG POST OUGHT TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS WEBSITE!!! I am disgusted with all of you comments and all of you have sinned against God. http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed

        • Inspiri

          I couldn’t find record that his nose was broken. Though, that is not a marker for the severity of his beating. It takes only a few pounds to break a nose. Women need only strike nose with their palm upward motion…anyone can do it. But I digress. Zimmerman had a one inch laceration on the back of his head. Again, very easy to do. If Travon was trying he could of cracked Zimmermans skull like a melon. But what’s the point of all of this…nothing! It’s not the self defense defense that outrages everyone, its the racial profiling that precipated fight

        • Inspiri

          Not exactly. A record according to police. I have never fought with a cop; its yes sir, no ma’am, can I place my hands here. If i got arrested for agrevated assault of an officer, they would take me out back and give me a Travon beating. I know because a family member had it done to him …and he was only loud with the cops. So what is your point anyway. How does that change the manner and matter of this blog has taken this far. I give full credit to the graduate of Jerry Faldwell academy of nonsense

        • Inspiri

          Not really, No. It is not obvious either. The matter of my post went over your head

        • Inspiri

          I am of the liability in insurance cases, where both parties are at fault …just a matter of sliding the scale in one party’s favor. They were both at fault, young and stupid. No matter, Zimmerman adds to his rap sheet.

        • Inspiri

          OMG …YOU FOUND ANOTHER SMOKING GUN!

        • Inspiri

          If you knew my ethnicity, then you what see the humor in your statement

        • exclntman

          Be careful he might run for a government office in the next election.  They closed all the mental institutions, and now they vote them into government office jobs.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Yeah but your theory is not backed up by any of the FACTS, and the trial was a self defense trial, even if g Zimmerman would’ve have been following Trayvon that still did not give trayvon the legal right to confront him, make a verbal threat, and throw the first punch, no matter what led up too it, till Trayvon threw the first punch , nobody was doing anything illegal!!!

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          How do u racially profile someone when it’s dark rainy and the person is wearing a hoodie, I don’t think anyone could say for sure what kind of person was under that hoodie, under those circumstances, logically speaking,And how do u know it wasn’t Trayvon who was doing the profiling , especially after his girlfriend on the phone put it in his head that George could be some gay rapist, talk about profiling, and we know this because his girlfriend on the stand testified that that’s what she said too him, but there is no evidence whatsoever that George profiled Trayvon.If we’re going too be honest black america didnt care about the profiling, it was that they just wanted something too whine about as usual, and while we at it, where are all the protesters out there protesting the 13 month old baby, shot in the face by two blacks kids trying too rob their mom, oh I forgot the baby was white so it doesñt matter, another little fact , in case u didnt know, there are more blacksks killing whites,

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Sorry somehow I hit the enter button accidentally, what I was saying was according to govt, statistics more blacks kill whites than whites kill blacks, funny how u don’t see any whites rioting in the streets

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          And where was the proof that Zimmerman racially profiled trayvon, there was none, zero zip nada, u can’t just make up stuff out of thin air, ya need evidence, that’s why the prosecution didnt win, they couldn’t prove their case, plain and simple!!!

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Ok my bad .

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Here’s my theory, George followed Trayvon too see where he was going too report back to the 911 dispatcher the dispatcher told George that he didnt need too follow Trayvon any longer , George said he lost sight of Trayvon, while george was returning too his vehicle , Trayvon probably confronted him and smarted off there were words exchanged , Trayvon last his temper , punched george in the nose, knocking him down, Trayvon proceeded too straddle George, and knock his head into the ground , George knew he was losing the fight, he was afraid for his life pulled the gun and fired, that theory is as god as anybody else theory.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Sorry the last sentence of my previous post should have said, that theory is as good as anybody else’s theory!!!

      • exclntman

        All cowards hide, when they are high on weed.

      • captinbean

        BobE BobMcCormick But of course. Every time someone on the street comes to close or creeps me out, I break their nose, mount them, and slam their head to the ground. What rational person does not act like this? ***Sarcasm****

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Unfortunately u must’ve have not listened too the trial very closely, Trayvon was still alive when HE confronted g Zimmerman, u can hear Trayvon on the phone record , saying to g Zimmerman ( u got a problem with me, and George says no, than u hear Trayvon say u do now) so how do u twist that around that George is scaring trayvon , if Trayvon is doing the confronting, see u can’t change the facts!!!

        • StevenKippel

          SusanCarolPilgrene Zimmerman caused the confrontation by following Trayvon. Lots of wouldbe victims make the first strike because striking first provides them the only advantage. If you were walking home at night and some strange man was following you, would you be scared? Every child is taught what to do in a situation like this and it’s pretty close to what Zimmerman describes happened to him.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          No there’s no law against following someone, I’ve followed pl before on neighborhood watch, as long as they don’t touch me there nothing I can legally do, till they throw that first punch.I know what I’m talking about im a manager at a community pool I was confronted by a group of wanna be thugs but there wasn’t anything I could really do till they threw that firśt punch, like George I confronted the boys and told them to go home, so I guess if I had a gun and feared for my life U would say I couldn’t defend myself??

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Do u see the connection I’m trying too make, both George and I were in a position of authority, George protecting his neighborhood , me protecting neighborhood property, we both had a right too be where we were, only difference is I was unarmed, but u can bet your sweet life at that time , I wished I was armed!

        • petermatmellcom

          SusanCarolPilgrene George Zimmerman had no authority that Trayvon Martin was compelled to recognize. He wasn’t in uniform, he wasn’t in a squad car, he carried no badge, let a lone identify himself as authority figure or even a concerned neighbor.  As far as Trayvon Martin was concerned, he was just a guy following him late at night and was a potential mugger or something.  Much has been made of Mr. Zimmerman’s right to defend himself, but what about Trayvon’s right to ‘Stand His Ground” and defend himself from an unknown potential assailant?  You’ll say “Well, Trayvon threw the first punch!”  Sure.  But both guys would be alive today if George Zimmerman just listened to the 911 operator and stayed in his car.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          But George said he was returning too his vehicle when he was attacked by Trayvon , so if that’s true , I can just as easily say, that Trayvon should have continued walking home and the confrontation , would have never happened!!!

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Talk about speculation where in in the trial was any evidence brought up that said Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, u can’t can’t take opinion and state it as a fact with no evidence too back it up.

    • JohnSuppressors

      Before that was said Zimmermann said he’s running, dispatch said can you see where? Sounds like a question to me. You Martin lovers need to wake up. You had the trial you demanded even though you shouldn’t have and it came out the only way a trial with no evidence of a crime could have. Shut up and live with it. Zimmerman should have received a community service award. Not a race bating trial. The crime was perpetrated on Zimmerman by Martin as well as the state of Florida. He should sue both parties.

      • exclntman

        two times the crap has backfired on martin.   If he was truthful and not a thug, he would still be breathing air.

  • BobE

    People that graduate from “Jerry Falwell” college need to put an asterisk beside it otherwise people might think they graduated from a “real” university.

    • Inspiri

      Bob- although I’m pissed right now. I have to say your post was the one bright spot. That is some funny stuff. I went to one of the best universities for engineering (not Ivy League) and I can appreciate the asterisk!

      • dasbunker

        Inspiri 
        You last thread said you wanted this post removed.
        In my reply to you two days ago I asked if you had watched the tril, no responces to my question.
        Where are you getting your information?
        Jesse, Al or MSNBC?
        The viscous thug Trev on was shot in self defense. If you are so disgusted with this post, stop reading it ,concede your total ignorance and shut the hell up.

        • Inspiri

          You got it

        • dasbunker

          Inspiri  
          Thank god, about time you stopped but I bet you don’t.

  • Inspiri

    Please take this disgusting post down. I am outraged. I’m serious. This has fought out nothing but the worst in everyone. I am insulted by all of this overt racist comments. We have no business relitigating Zimmerman case. The author did a terrible job with his thesis. Not worthy of pornography.

  • LoreneCribbinsKesler

    What this author did was to point out a fine fact: Roderick Scott was justified in defending himself, as was George Zimmerman. Who was white and who was black is NOT relevant!

    • lavender lady

      LoreneCribbinsKesler Thank you!

  • clodhopper669

    And if a “Stand Your Ground law” could have been utilized it would have saved this man and his family from going through all the stress and expense of having to defend himself in a trial. The mental trauma of having to shoot someone in self defense is bad enough.  having to go through something like Zimmerman is for an obvious self defense incident is a terrible thing to put an innocent person and his family through.  there have been many an innocent person jailed for legitimate self defense because of the liberals obsession with removing guns and punishing their owners.

    • Inspiri

      Don’t waste your empathy on Zimmerman. This is the life he sought.

      • Inspiri

        There is absolutely no evidence that Travon was a gang banger. I just saw those sites depicting him as one. Who’s prejudice is at work? No one has come forward to suggest he was. I read the article that reported jewelry item in his book bag but again, No evidence ever surfaced that the jewelry was stolen.
        “Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by schools police.
        Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy

      • Inspiri

        Dude, what is up you arse? You just keep making up crap about Travon. I get it, he was black, pot smoker and disrespected women like his hip hop heros. You don’t have to crap on his crave.

      • Inspiri

        There is a difference between making up crap about someone, carrying forward rumors full of slander. That’s 1. defamation; 2. malicious, false, and 3. defamatory. And simply bringing to light actually facts about a person and letting OTHER people be the judge. I simply said Zimmerman was arrested for assaulting an officer. I didn’t say “thus, he’s a thug”. You made up stuff about Travon and then called him as a gangster. Have you no decency? What would Christ do?

      • chadbag

        Inspiri It does not  matter that he was black.  What matters is that he assaulted Zimmerman in ambush.

      • boymac2008

        Inspiri More LIB Blindness!!
        Stop drinking the 0bama Kool-Aid !!

      • qazwiz

        movwater sorry to contradict you because I also believe travon was guilty and should have expected what he got…. but Zimmerman wasn’t travon’s community watchman…. he was his parent’s community watchman, protecting the houses of travon’s parents house and the houses that travon was lurking around. 
        travon was just visiting his parents.  his actions, as reported by the liberal media,  boiled down to him looking for something to steal, or more probably, looking for an open window at an unoccupied house to be able to enter and steal.
        I am still in awe of the absence of the obvious question: Why was travon only visiting? he was 17, still too young to enter into contractual agreements (aka can’t be renting his own place) some of the evidence not allowed actually points to him being a hooligan so while my first thought was divorce so just visiting one parent and a step parent but maybe the reason no one mentioned he was a product of a broken home (the bread and butter of the liberals mantra)  but now i wonder if it was his parents couldn’t handle his vulgar and aggressive mannerisms
        but Inspiri try the dissallowed selfie vids not to mention the hoodie pix.. if he wasn’t a gang banger he was enough of a wannabe to become their buttboy soon as he got caught… unless you think travon would have liked being sodomized then maybe hes better off with his virginity intact despite the finality of the preservation.

      • Inspiri

        There is the golden rule, and there’s the platinum rule. That is, you judge people by their actions in its proper context, not by their intentions. Looks like your mommy and daddy missed it. Until you learn this, you will continue to piss off friends, family, colleagues …and oh yes, black people. I wish you all the best luck in life…you’re gonna need it

      • Inspiri

        Wo, woo, woooooo. I never said Travon was innocent. More like ‘gangsta’ than a gang banger. Perhaps you don’t know the difference. Perhaps your daughter in law. Does your daughter in law agree with your credulity and bias on subject? Did she approve of your sources of info? Does she agree with all of your views presented here. Cause I don’t. I’d be ashamed of my fatherinlaw if he spoke half of the cramp that came out of your mouth.

      • Inspiri

        I preferred not to blame either of the victims here and haven’t suggested either one was guilty. So in not sure what have you that idea. As far as whether zimmeman was “protecting his neighborhood”, I believe it was said here that it was not his neighborhood; It was Travon’s father. No shaming needed thank you very much. My conscience is clear according to your standards

      • Inspiri

        So it (the context) fly over your head completely…I will explain what I meant by “this is the life zimmerman sought”. He wanted to be a cop, he wanted to carry a gun, he wanted to catch bad guys. And he acted like one without extensive law enforcement training and judgment. Hopefully, that clears things up and thus discourage you from further posthumous attacks on victim’s character… and please leave me out of it.

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Yeah and out of all the ppl the FBI talked too, you would think that they could at least come up with one person,who could recall hearing George use a racial slur or remark but they didnt,I find that very curious indeed!!!

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Not only that, while we’re speculating about zimmermans motives, how do we know for sure that the reason Trayvon attacked George, wasn’t because he though George was a gay guy and following him as a matter of fact his girlfriend alluded too something like that in her testimony at the trial?

  • ecarr12198

    Unfortunately you could tell the folks asking “What If” the entire story of Roderick Scott and they would’t care, it would be a waste of your breath. The race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson can not make a dime off of Roderick Scott, it does jot “fit” their racist agenda, but Travon is a bonanza of cash and hate for them. And the protesters in the streets would not listen, many of then are looking for an excuse to complain that the man is holding them down instead of getting of their lazy butts and making something of themselves, and still others just like an opportunity to gripe.

  • HarvardJD

    this is b.s. the incidents aren’t similar at all. 
    cervini was breaking the law when scott found him and was trespassing on his property. scott had every right to defend his property and then to defend his own person when cervini said “i’ll get you.”
    trayvon martin was walking home from the store, not stealing a car or committing any other illegal act. scott was on his own property, not stalking a poor kid. 
    to compare the two and call them comparable is a travesty to the justice system – its faults and all, to trayvon’s memory, and to the efforts of activists in addressing rampant racial profiling. and to be so naive and thoughtless as to use a term like “white uproar” undermines the plight of blacks in this country. we have systematically oppressed one race since this country’s inception and continue to do so today. yes, things have improved, but they are not fixed yet. do not speak of what you clearly do not comprehend.
    if you want real perspective on what happened to poor trayvon, try this on for size instead: http://www.eurweb.com/2013/07/romany-malco-pens-message-to-trayvon-sympathizers/

    • captinbean

      HarvardJD People get profiled in this country every day. GET OVER IT. Trayon broke the law when he decided to attack Zimmerman. Case closed.

    • pearlnpeter

      HarvardJD You are clearly a bigoted and ignorant liberal. The FACT is that Trayvon Martin attacked a person. This is the only relevant issue when considering the right to self-defense. Zimmerman was not “standing his ground” or provoking the thug who beat him bloody. But then, he was black, so that gives him license to violate the rights of someone who is not. I don’t really care whether you and your ilk ever think rationally about the thug,Trayvon Martin, but understand that decent people will no longer allow you to control the debate or impose your twisted values on us. (BTW, no one cares about your sick “perspective”)

  • krinks

    How did I know that the dumbed down race hustlers would be upset at this story and genuflect in trying to explain it away to keep Martin as an innocent martyr.

  • pearlnpeter

    “The next time someone tells you, “What if…?” You can tell them it
    already happened, and the outcome was exactly the same… minus the racial
    tension.”
    …minus the PROPAGANDA

  • BarbieWilson

    EXCEPT for one very important detail, these White boys were committing a CRIME. Trayvon was minding his own damn business….pesky facts getting in the way of your point, darn.

    • JohnSuppressors

      Martin was. crime free up and only up to the point his fist struck Zimmerman. At that exact moment it became felonious assault and I believe in every jurisdiction that is a crime. It is not even debatable. Once his fist crossed the threshold of Zimmerman’s nose Martin was a criminal. If he hasn’t been killed he most surely would have been charged with a crime. Just like in the other case. The black man had zero right to shoot until the white kid touched him or even feared he would touch him I. a manner that caused harm. What you don’t seem to get is even if Martin had not touched Zimmerman under the law if Zimmerman feared for his health or life he had the right to shoot. The beating just sealed the deal and is what led to Martin’s death. All the so called frightened child had to do is go inside the apartment and he would not have died that night. He decided to punk out and paid for it.

      • neight777

        JohnSuppressors What if seeing Zimmerman following him made Martin fear for his life?

        • rosieroos

          neight777 JohnSuppressors Considering the testimony was he was behind his apartment several minutes before the fight all he had to do was go inside. Or call 911, or run away, or do anything except attack.

        • chadbag

          neight777 JohnSuppressors Does not matter.   You cannot assault someone because your fear for your life unless your life is in imminent danger, ie, someone is attempting to assault or harm you.  If I am walking down the street and I notice a gang banger type guy following behind me at 50 ft.  Not directly threatening me.  Even if I fear for my life at that moment, I cannot just turn around and shoot the guy.   Shadowing someone walking around your neighborhood is not illegal.  Neither is walking through the neighborhood to your dad’s house.   Both were doing nothing illegal up until Mr Martin decided to take matters into his own hands and wait for Zimmerman and assault him.   It has nothing to do with black or white or hispanic or anything.  It has to do with a kid taking matters into his own hands, assaulting someone who then defends himself and shoots the kid.  Sad all around.  But Mr. Martin could have called 911 or just gone to his dad’s house and gone inside and stayed there (and maybe call 911 from there) if he felt his life was threatened.  At no time was Mr Zimmerman actually threatening him up until Mr. Martin assaulted Mr. Zimmerman.   It also seems like Mr. Zimmerman had lost track of Mr. Martin and was walking back to his vehicle when Mr. Martin hid in wait for him and then assaulted him.  These are the FACTS that have come out in the media as well as at court.  These FACTS were properly weighed by the jury who came to the proper conclusion:  Mr. Zimmerman really was in fear of his life when he was being assaulted by Mr. Martin, had the injuries (and some sort of witness statements) to back it up, and was acquitted for his actions of self defense.   The story of Mr Scott is exactly an analog to this story:  A man is assaulted by some kid.  Mr. Scott defends himself.  And is properly acquitted.  Black, white, etc does not matter in these cases.  The FACTS matter.    The problem is that major portions of the media have not presented the facts.  Some media reports have presented the facts, but most media reports omit certain facts in order to sway public opinion.  You ask any of the people out protesting this what happened, and I bet none, or almost none, will know or realize that Mr. Martin was actually assaulting Mr. Zimmerman.   They are spoon fed the fact that this black “kid” was shot by Mr. Zimmerman, who is not black (nor white it seems, but hispanic with some black ancestors).  Full Stop.  None of the other relevant facts will be known.  If the media did their job and explained things in a non biased way, non of this (or very little of this) protesting would have occurred and Mr. Obama would not have embarrassed himself.   The race hustlers like Sharpton and J Jackson know full well the facts but are conveniently ignoring them because it does not fit their narrative that they need to keep going in order to keep the money rolling in, and are aided and abetted by a willing media.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          I kept asking myself that same question , and coming up with the same answer, I would have dialed 911 and walked the other way especially it being dark and rainy, I certainly wouldn’t have walked up too a stranger, and say do u gotta problem with me , and then say u do now,that would just be provoking a fight!!!

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Like I corrected in a couple paragraphs up , about the phone call, I still would’ve have called 911 , Trayvon had enough time too get off the phone with his girlfriend and dial 911 , why didnt he, why was there only a record of zimmermans call if Trayvon was so afraid , You see how illogical that sounds,if Zimmerman was the aggressor Trayvon should have been the one to call911 not Zimmerman , so why didnt he???

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          This is what I think might have happened, Zimmerman, knew there were burglaries in his neighborhood and that some perpetrators hadn’t been caught , it was dark and rainy and he thought he’d saw a person acting suspiciously, and because of what he perceived as suspicious behavior on trayvons part he followed him, as far as I know that’s not illegal and that’s not what the prosecution was trying too prove, theywere going for the guilty verdict because they be lieved Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon , but they had no evidence too prove that , and that’s why they lost I believe!

        • Inspiri

          Because he was young and thought he was invincible. Because he thought he was a tough guy like most teenagers

        • JohnSuppressors

          Though he was a tough guy and tried to prove it. At that point its called assault and its a crime. That is why he died. Zimmerman did what anyone with half a brain would do. I realize that excludes liberal idiots like inspiri but its what the rest of us would do. No crime on Zimmerman’s part. The state, justice dept, prosecutor, and judge have committed countless rights violations upon Zimmerman though. They should be jailed.
          Martin’s family should also be forced to return the extorted award they received by an idiot insurance company to quick to pay out to the ghetto lottery. Talk about injustice! Sue for wrongful death before a wrongful death was proven.
          And poor little Trayvon’s parents were so broken up about his death that his mother trademarked his name before the body was cold. What parent thinks about that? My first concern over my dead child is how I’m going to profit from it? Are you kidding me?

        • Inspiri

          A one-sided testimony is not enough. I hope to God you are not on the receiving end of one-sided testimony

    • neight777

      movwater Yes, a 17yo old kid just decided to beat someone to death on his way home from the store, THAT SEEMS LIKELY. If the fact that the person telling this story was the larger, older, armed dude who killed him doesn’t make you question it, then I’m guessing you don’t understand logic anyway.

      • qazwiz

        neight777movwaterQUOTE: “then I’m guessing you don’t understand logic anyway.”
        your simplification doesn’t take into account that TRAVON DIDN’T GO “HOME” (for the argument i will assume you meant to say “to the house he was visiting”) if he had gone there he would have been inside his Father’s girlfriend’s house when Mister Zimmerman called the police about a suspicious character lurking around homes that had no lights. 
        A more plausible explanation is travon picked up a snack to keep his body energized then called his girlfriend to brag about the house he was going to steal from (she didn’t want to tell anyone what was said on call) he just got stymied by the windows all being locked by the unhelpful cracker owners before they went out
        please note: I said picked up because I wouldn’t put it past anyone with travon’s attitude (check the transcripts of the released cell phone videos) to use their five finger discount if they thought they could get away with it

      • StevenKippel

        qazwiz neight777 movwater He was walking towards his home. Your “more plausible explanation” rests on your fetid imagination and nothing else.

      • chadbag

        StevenKippel qazwiz neight777 movwater And he stopped. And waited for Mr Zimmerman.  He did not continue on home.  Mr. Zimmerman seems to even have lost track of Mr. Martin and been returning to his vehicle when Mr Martin assaulted him. Those are the facts that came out in court and through other publicly available evidence disclosures.   I have no comment on his phoning the girlfriend to brag about any possible mischief he was allegedly planning. I have seen no evidence to support that.

      • StevenKippel

        chadbag StevenKippel qazwiz neight777 movwater 
        That is if you believe Zimmerman’s story, which I used to believe until I saw that Trayvon’s body was found more that 40 feet from where Zimmerman said the altercation took place.
        “As soon as he punched me, I fell backyards, um, into the grass,” Zimmerman said in his recounting to events. “I fell to the ground when he punched me the first time.”
        If Zimmerman’s account is true, that he was walking from one street through to the next, and Trayvon attacked him at the intersection of where that footpath and the footpath between the buildings met, how did Trayvon’s body end up 40 feet down that second path, in a direction away from Zimmerman’s vehicle?
        See for yourself:
        http://i.imgur.com/aZYEnX9.png

      • chadbag

        StevenKippel chadbag qazwiz neight777 movwater The evidence that came out in court supports Mr. Zimmerman’s view.  I don’t know who made the graphic above or upon what it is based.  Lots of people making graphics to support both sides out there who have no clue.  However, if that is true the prosecution was not clued into it it seems and I severely doubt that the prosecution would have been in the dark to something YOU have.  (One possibility is that the altercation started at the red star and moved to the blue star.  Ie, Mr Martin approached him at the red star but did not punch him until the blue star — based on the statements in the graphic, that is plausible.  Or maybe Mr Martin was shot and moved.  Lots of possibilities could be thought up without more evidence at our disposal).
        Plus there was an eyewitness that supported Mr. Zimmerman’s claim that he was being attacked and was underneath Mr. Martin.
        The evidence that is most compelling is that Mr Martin started the physical altercation by assaulting Mr. Zimmerman.

      • StevenKippel

        chadbag StevenKippel qazwiz neight777 movwater The only evidence of that is Zimmerman’s story.

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Well actually not,u got a phone record , where u can clearly here Trayvon stay to George, u got a problem with me , and u hear George say no, then u hear Trayvon say well u do now,that pretty well sounds like to me , that Trayvon initiated the fight, so it’s not just zimmermans word !!

      • petermatmellcom

        SusanCarolPilgrene If I follow you in, say, a dark parking lot, I follow you to your car.  You have no idea what I’m about.  All you know is I’m following you.  Maybe I need help.  Maybe I’m selling chocolate.  Maybe I’m out to mug you.  It’s dark.  Who knows?   You start to speed up, I start to speed up.  Your car is too far away.  You won’t make it.  And you decide your best chance at defending yourself is to pull pepper spray out of your purse, turn and face me, spray me the face and kick me in the groin.  And then, I’m able to grab you, wrestle you to the ground, and in that struggle I pull out my gun and shoot you.  Now I ask you, in this situation, who initiated the confrontation?

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Yeah but I’m not a neighborhood watch captain and where I’m at , I have no way of knowing about any breaking or burglaries, so your analogy doesn’t quite fit.

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        So lets try your scenario another way, say I’m a neighborhood watch person I know there have been burglaries in my neighborhood, I also know that no one was caught, it’s dark rainy and I see someone who’s acting suspiciously in a hoodie,I would follow thèm at a distance while calling 911, if that person in the hoodie came up too me and said , do u got a problem with me, and I said no, and then he said well undo now, in your book who confronted who?In my book it would be the person who stepped too me , when they didnt have too do that, that person would be the aggressor after what he said top me.

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Sorry bout some of the misspells.

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Maybe a lot of ppl on here,who don’t understand what a neighborhood watch captain does, I can try and explain, you watch,which means you have too follow too watch,then u report too 911 that’s what u do, if your not sure about what street the suspicious person is on,u get out and look at the street sign, to tell the 911 dispatcher what street u saw the suspicious person on and too see if he went between the houses.Remember the night trayvon was killed it was dark raining and he was wearing a hoodie, can any of u ppl on here say for certain, that under those circumstances u would be able too tell the ethinticity of a person,if your honest, you’ll say no? Remember black America is basing their whole idea of Zimmerman being guilty because of race. You hear on a phone call the dispatcher asking George about following trayvon, u hear the dispatcher say ,well we don’t need u too do that, then u hear George say ok,and that’s it,how u can jump too the conclusion that george kept on following trayvon after that ,is pure speculation on anyone’s part. Not only that u hear George say that he lost trayvon whereabouts, and at the trial he said he was on his way back to the vehicle when he was attacked. The confrontation was near the vehicle if I remember correctly, which leads me to believe that George was telling the truth. Also we hear another phone record where u hear trayvon asking George if he had a problem with him, u hear George say no, than u hear trayvon say well u do now, up too that time, nobody was breaking the law but trayvon stepping too George and saying that shows provocation , and on top of that he punched George in the nose and knocked him down and started beating his head into the ground , witnesses corroborated what George Zimmerman said about who was on top. Trayvon didn’t have too step too George , but he did for whatever reason we don’t know , but he made that fatal decision, and it cost him his life.

      • petermatmellcom

        SusanCarolPilgrene SusanCarolPilgrene Did Trayvon know Zimmerman was neighborhood watch?Was Zimmerman wearing a uniform?  Did he flash a badge?  Did he identify himself as either neighborhood watch or even a concerned neighbor?  Was Zimmerman’s vehicle somehow marked?  The analogy is the same.  And you know the correct answer.

      • petermatmellcom

        SusanCarolPilgrene  Ahh, now you’re getting to the crux of the matter.  George Zimmerman thought Trayvon was acting suspicious.  Fine.  What exactly? Wearing a hoodie and walking.  Not committing a crime, not threatening someone’s life or property, not trespassing, not fleeing the scene of a crime.  Just walking and wearing a hoodie.  Is that probable cause to be followed?  More to the point, is George Zimmerman – Neighborhood Watch captain trained and authorized to make that distinction?  And even MORE to the point… is Trayvon Martin compelled or required to honor George Zimmerman’s conclusion that he’s dangerous?  The answer to both of those questions is no.  Trayvon Martin had no way of knowing Zimmerman was neighborhood watch, and since he had committed no crime, he had no reason to feel he needed to respect what to him was some middle aged guy following him in the dark… much like my scenario where someone follows you in a parking lot.

      • petermatmellcom

        SusanCarolPilgrene Even without witnessing Trayvon Martin committing a crime, Zimmerman’s version of event would be more plausible if Trayvon had been found with a spray can, or a weapon, or stolen property, or some other evidence that he committed a crime or intended to commit a crime like Zimmerman suspected.  That would have at least justified Zimmerman’s suspicions.  But he had was some skittles.

      • Inspiri

        Zimmerman used his preconceived notions about what suspicious looks like to pursue Travon. By his own words, Zimmerman thought Travon was a criminal: “these [explitive] always get away”. We will never know if Zimmerman would have reach the same conclusion and took the same actions if Travon was named Jason and had blonde hair and fare skin. And because we can’t know, we can’t conclude he racially profiled Travon. Any of it is conjecture. But Zimmerman transgression against Travon will be judged at the time of death. And if he lied to preserve his innocents, he’s going to hell

      • SilasDoGood

        Inspiri Hey f_cktard, what do you thing Neighborhood Watch is supposed to do you MORON!!!  You question EVERYONE that you do not know or have not seen before or looks suspicious……PERIOD.
        George did his JOB and is a GREAT neighbor.  He should be THANKED for his action in killing someone that was trying to kill him.
        Get your head out of your azz

      • Inspiri

        I don’t thank Zimmerman. He was reckless. He could have handled it many other ways. And because the other victim is not here to explain his side of truth, I don’t believe Zimmerman account. He has a history of lying, his credibility is tarnished. Sorry. But that is objectivity. It is never enough to overcome burden of proof. I would ” fire” him as neighborhood watch captain and put someone else with better judgment in his place. He is no hero. He is going to hell for murder

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        Just too set the record straight about the phone record where, u can hear a voice saying u gotta problem with me, then u hear a voice say no , then a voice say well u do now , I was mistaken that it was a phone call , I researched some more , and discovered that it was a taped interview Zimmerman had with the police after the shooting.

      • SusanCarolPilgrene

        But even tho I was mistaken bout the phone call and that it was a taped interview doesn’t change any of the other facts brought out at the trial. The prosecution couldnt come up with any evidence that showed Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon and until they do Zimmerman is not guilty, and should be able too go on with his life and not feel threatened by a big part of a segment of society , that thinks he’s guilty because they perceive him too be white. Do u understand what I’m trying too say ?

      • qazwiz

        StevenKippel chadbag qazwiz neight777 movwater  sorry to burst your bubble but i saw the interview of tryvons father at the location where the body was found, interview was long before the trial.
        the real location of the body was in front of the corner house, about where the pink “c” (perhaps the space between the “n” & the “c”) 
        so why are they moving the body? the troll who made the graphic is trying to make this into a race thing. it ain’t. Same as roderick scott, George Zimmerman is a hero who defended himself.

      • qazwiz

        petermatmellcom Neighborhood watch does not have to automatically identify themselves and normally they do not arrest anybody (they could do a citizens arrest same as you or I could but the job is to report not arrest)
        Zimmerman did nothing to tryvon that a law abiding citizen could have objected to so there was no reason to attack Zimmerman. although a criminal could have easily objected to being identified should they have plans to rob one of the houses they were lurking around
        taking one tenth the speed to travel where he was supposedly going, lurking on private property, HE WAS TRESPASSING although I doubt that no trespassing signs were posted in an urban setting  it was not the only suspicious act. I don’t blame tryvon for not wanting to be watched as he tried the windows to see if they were locked or not.

    • drlove999

      BarbieWilson ….You are wrong…Travyon was not minding his own business..He was loitering around an area that had been the subject of burglaries committed by mostly young black males…He made himself appear suspicious by his own actions and choices…Zimmerman followed up on what he perceived to be suspicious activity by a young black male wearing a hoodie extremely late at night where no one would have any business being out..Travyon should have made a B-line to where he was staying, yet he did not…His own choices brought about his own demise…The toxicologist found marijuana in his system and synthetic pcp in his liver…Incidentally, synthetic pcp is made by using Arizona ice tea, skittles and robitussin DMX cough syrup..If u dont believe me, simply examine Travyons own facebook page where he speaks incessantly of making this concoction with the same exact ingredients he purchased at the store that nite…Travon was not minding his own business…He was simply a thug and criminal in training…Just weeks prior to this incident, Travyon struck a city bus driver in the face  with his fist cause he would not allow him to ride the bus for free..The bus company pleaded with the bus driver not to make a complaint against this thug..Travyon had been suspended from school on several occasions, in trouble with police for petty crimes and basically a trouble maker..He was a dope dealer and dope user….Yes, those pesky facts do have a way of getting in the way of ur point….DARN!!!!

  • stknows

    Another important fact is that in this case, there were 2 other very credible witnesses to back up the accused’s story – the friends of the teen who was shot. I’m positive that in court and under oath, they would have verified that Cervini said, “I’ll get him” and intended to attack him. In the Zimmerman case, there are only 2 people who will ever know the absolute truth, and one of them is dead.

  • petermatmellcom

    Another HUGE difference:  Roderick Scott was IMMEDIATELY arrested, detained, indicted and forced to stand trial so that a Judge and Jury could determine his culpability. George Zimmerman was released unconditionally on February 26th, and charges not filed until April 11th, and only AFTER a month of public outcry and political pressure.  People forget, this case gained national attention NOT because a White man shot and killed a Black man, but because a White man shot and killed a Black man and released without standing trial.

    • chadbag

      petermatmellcom Because the police did an investigation and decided that no crime was committed and that it was legitimate self defense.  Which was validated in court.   This should never have come to court in the first place.  It was a political witch hunt and persecution of Mr Zimmerman. That should never  happen in the United States of America.   We should not be some banana republic.  Slowly we are becoming one, where political correctness, and ideology are more important than the rule of law.

      • petermatmellcom

        chadbag The police investigated Roderick Scott, too.  But the bulk of that investigation was completed AFTER he was arrested.  There was sufficient evidence of possible manslaughter, so they arrested Mr. Scott to put the wheels of justice in motion.  But in Zimmerman’s case, with, as this article points out, equal evidence of possible manslaughter, no such arrest was made.  A month later, he still was neither charged nor cleared of wrong doing.  This article asserts that since Roderick Scott was ultimately exonerated, race played no part in the proceedings.  But clearly, in the face of very similar sets of evidence and circumstances – including a dead victim – one guy was immediately arrested and charged, while the other given the benefit of the doubt indefinitely.  The facts are irrefutable on this.  Doesn’t take away the legality of what Mr. Zimmerman did nor the conclusiveness of the verdict, which was correct according to the law.  But race was clearly a factor in both cases.

        • chadbag

          petermatmellcom chadbag You obviously misunderstand how things work.   The police were easily able to rule it as a self defense (Zimmerman bloodied, etc).  There was no need for arrest.  In Mr Scotts case, that was not obvious and there was evidence of a crime being committed.   You don’t arrest the shooter in every self defense case.  The facts are NOT IRREFUTABLE for your case.  In fact, just the opposite.  The police were able to tell in Mr Zimmerman’s case that there was no crime due to the evidence and facts of the case.  In Mr. Scotts case, that was not true.

        • petermatmellcom

          chadbag If the police were “easily able to rule it as self defense” then why was the investigation still open a month later?  Why were they still ‘investigating?’  And why did the Attorney General find sufficient evidence not only for Manslaughter, but for Murder 2? We have courts precisely for cases like this, so that a judge and jury can weight evidence.  You think the crime is that he was subjected to the justice system.  I think it’s a triumph of the system that he was forced to stand trial AND was acquitted.

        • wisewoman

          petermatmellcom: But Zimmerman has NOT been exohonerated in the media, Obama, and the minds of (mostly) black people, though he has been by a jury of his peeers.  Therein lies the difference.
          Had Mr. Scott been charged and sent to trial do you actually think that there would be the hue and cry in the media and therefore in the white community which mostly didn’t even hear about it?  Not so the Trayvon/Zimmerman case.  Had the media done their (correct) job this would never have been blowin up to the extent that it has been.  It hasn’t done our country any good for this to have become anything but what it was — a routine death of a black, but this time an half Hispanic/part black man who was labeled as white. 
          So too, is our president half white, and less African/American than White/Arab/Black (hopefully) American.

        • petermatmellcom

          wisewoman petermatmellcom You’re not wrong.  Many don’t like the verdict and want further action against Mr. Zimmerman, and that divide is largely along racial lines.  I am not one of those people.  But the same thing happened with the OJ verdict. Despite being found Not Guilty by a jury of his peers, many (mostly) Whites never forgave him nor accepted the verdict.  He was guilty, despite the jury’s conclusion.   Was that motivated by race?  You may sleep at night by telling yourself that the evidence supports the verdict, again, you’re not wrong.  The record shows Trayvon Martin threw the first punch, and that George ZImmerman was acting in self defense when he pulled the trigger, and according to the letter of the law the Not Guilty verdict is justified. But others (and most Blacks) point out that the record only has one side of the story, that witness accounts neither conclusively support nor contradict Mr. Zimmerman’s version of events, and that evidence also shows Mr. Zimmerman had no probable cause for following Mr. Martin and initiating the confrontation in the first place – he had committed no crime, he was carrying no weapon, no spray can, and was not about to commit a crime.  Mr. Zimmerman concluded, based on nothing but Mr. Martin’s appearance, that he was guilty of something and warranted a confrontation.  What authority did he have to do so? And much has been made of Mr. Zimmerman’s right to self defense.  But what about Trayvon Martin’s right to defend himself and ‘stand his ground’ and face his pursuer?

        • petermatmellcom

          wisewoman petermatmellcom wisewoman petermatmellcom But I digress.  Again, the issue for me was NOT that a White man shot and killed a Black teenager.  It’s that a White man shot and killed a Black teenager and wasn’t going to be tried.  I personally declared victory when Zimmerman was charged and brought to trial, and I vowed to support the verdict whatever its outcome.  The Black community should have followed suit.

        • petermatmellcom

          movwater petermatmellcom chadbag No politicians or “race baiters” needed in the Rodderick Scott case, though, right?  That one seemed to go to trial without any problems, despite being the exact same thing as this article points out..   Funny how that works.  Thanks for bringing this case to our attention, Last Resistance.  You just proved all those “race hate baiters” right.

        • petermatmellcom

          movwater petermatmellcom wisewoman I accept the verdict. Never said otherwise.  The system has worked, Zimmerman has been found innocent, and we all need to move on.  My issue is with the law itself, and with how it was applied, especially in the moments immediately following the shooting.   Zimmerman was released, not charged for over a month, and out on bail within days.  Roderick Scott was immediately arrested, charged, held without bail initially, and tried without question.  Two cases, two applications of the law. Zimmerman is innocent.  The verdict is just.  And I don’t think he should be brought up on civil rights charges.  But there’s something wrong with the law when a man can shoot teenager without witnessing him committing a crime, with no probable cause and no proof afterwards that he was doing anything illegal on community property when he initiates the confrontation, and then not even be brought up on charges initially.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Not only that whites do not have any NAACP organizations or so called reverends, out there stirring up trouble , when blacks win in trials against whites, and regardless of what u think , blacks do get justice , in the system from time to time , just like whites,but it’s just not advantageous for the likes of the jesses Jackson’s and al sharptons too talk about it, u can’t make any money on that . I have heard on this and other boards, talk about the oj Simpson verdict,how did get he get off, when there actually was evidence pointing too him that he did the crime.Did any of white America actually think a jury of almost all blacks was, gonna find a black man guilty of killing white ppl, especially a white woman who managed too snag a successful black man.White America when we found out that the jury was mostly black , knew in our heart of hearts that oj Simpson would get off, not because he wasn’t guilty but because blacks thought this was a get even with whitey time. The difference in the trials are that a lot of whites didnt see the trial thru the prism of color, we looked at the evidence and made our decision that we thought he was guilty, in the Zimmerman trial, there wasn’t any evidence that would support what the prosecution was saying, happened actually happened. Howcome after the oj Simpson trial ended and a lot of white America thought he got away with double murder, u didnt see any rioting in the streets, and u didnt see oj have too go into hiding , for fear of his life, because a lot of whites thought he got away with murder.Why is it when whites lose at trial against blacks, nobody riots, but when it’s the other way around all hell breaks loose?

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          And too add too my previous post, there were riots when the Rodney King trial ended and the attorneys tried too make the trial,about race, but where were the riots when the news had tapes that showed a group of ppl pulling Reginald Denny out of his truck and beating him with in an inch of his life, just because he was in the wrong place , at the wrong time?Why do blacks think it’s perfectly acceptable for them too riot, they call whites racist, but we didn’t see any blacks out there protesting , that a black almost killed a white, and we even saw it on tape on the news,it seems too me that a lot of blacks apply a double standard when the need arises.

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          And one other point about the oj Simpson trial if I remember correctly they didnt hold oj Simpson for long after they made the arrest either, and there was more evidence against him thannzimmerma

        • SusanCarolPilgrene

          Sorry accidentally hit pad button again , what I was trying too say they had more evidence on oj Simpson, then they had on Zimmerman, but they treated him with kid gloves leading up too the infamous tape of the police following him down the highway.So a lot of whites could say that we think they showed favoritism toward oj Simpson, just like a lot of blacks will say that the police showed favoritism towards george Zimmerman!

        • JohnSuppressors

          They had to bring in a special prosecutor when the local one said no crime. The the corrupt special prosecutor ran her mouth about how she was taking to a grand jury and how the grand jury would return an indictment for murder blah blah blah. Grandstanding for the media etc. Then all of a sudden a day or two before the grand jury was to hear the case she pulled it. Knowing full well she had zero case and the grand jury would have not returned the indictment she wanted. That action alone should show you how corrupt this whole thing was.

    • SilasDoGood

      petermatmellcom Peter, get a clue and do the research.  Mr. Zimmerman was NOT CHARGED as the Sanford PD believed (and CCORRECTLY I might add) that this was a case of self defense.  So today, after all the monkeys swinging form the trees and tossing poop, the outcome remains a SELF DEFENSE situation. 
      The Jury has spoken (correctly and to the letter of the law) so let it go.

      • petermatmellcom

        SilasDoGood yes, the jury has spoken, and I agree with the verdict -  not withstanding your racist analogy.  That’s why we have trials.  But this case almost didn’t go to trial.  That’s the point.

        • SilasDoGood

          petermatmellcom SilasDoGood  It should have NOT gone to trial.  If this had been white on white, no trial and no special interest uproar.  What about the black on black violence in Chicago, again, no trials, no uproar.  This became an issue because far too many are worried (or scared) of the likes of Jack-ASS-son, Sharp-tongue and Morgan.  So a trial was done, in both cases, and the verdict was the same – in both cases.
          I believe that Messers. Zimmerman and Scott did what they had to do, are found not guilty and case closed.
          Had the DOJ and special interest FOLLOWED the LEAD of Sanford PD, hundreds of thousands of dollars would not have been WASTED for a crystal clear self defense shooting.

        • StevenKippel

          SilasDoGood petermatmellcom There are most certainly trials for black on black crime in Chicago. 

          The police should not have authority to make criminal prosecution decisions. There is no judicial system when the police get to determine innocence and guilt.

        • StevenKippel

          SilasDoGood petermatmellcom And it was certainly not a “crystal clear self defense shooting” when the prosecutor went not just for manslaughter, as in the Roderick case, but for murder 2.
          I thought it was a case of two people making bad decisions until I looked at the crime scene and watched Zimmerman’s tell his story to the police. Zimmerman said he was assaulted at the intersection of the two footpaths and struck in the face, which knocked him on his back on the ground. Yet Trayvon’s body was found more than 40 feet away from this spot.

        • RockyThomas

          petermatmellcom SilasDoGood - This case should never have gone to trial, the evidence as a whole conclusively pointed to self-defense. It only went to trial because the media withheld evidence from the public that was public knowledge, not privileged information and created the need for trial.

        • qazwiz

          RockyThomas petermatmellcom SilasDoGood “withheld evidence”?   try “altered”… NBC will be contributing to George’s early retirement fund due to the deliberate altering of the phone call.
          Mr. Zimmerman had a long description of the suspicious character but probably because he was lurking in the shadows said nothing about his ethnicity until the operator asked what race he was. cautiously Mr. Zimmerman replied “he looks black”
          the edited tape didn’t have the question making it sound like the reason he was suspicious was “he looks black”
          any sane person who listens to the unedited tape can “see” (actually “hear”) that there was zero mention of race until he was forced to think about it (via the question)

    • qazwiz

      movwaterpetermatmellcom QUOTE”Roderick Scott had not been beat up, Zimmerman was!”
      thus Zimmerman could have shot the threat that said “you got a problem? … …You do now!” as soon as he advanced on him…. but Mister Zimmerman showed great restraint and waited until not only being struck, but after repeatedly begging the attacker to stop to no avail (the 911 recording of screams came from someone being attacked – only one person had blood and other signs of being attacked, Hero George Zimmerman)

    • SusanCarolPilgrene

      The only difference I see was that the confrontation between and Scott and the Zimmerman case is , that yeah the races are reversed, but also there were more ppl involved, u didnt just have one persons word against another persons actions who happened too be dead, from what I know of the Scott incident there were more ppl involved then just Scott and one guy. Which means that more ppl could testify about what happened, where in the Zimmerman case thare were only two pp involved , and one was no longer live to interrogate.Also the police said they didn’t hold Zimmerman because they believed it too be a clear case of self defense, and since the evidence pointed too Zimmerman telling the truth, they didnt charge him!

    • xcopper

      petermatmellcom ZIMMERMAN IS NOT WHITE !  QUIT MAKING BOGUS COMPARISONS.

  • SusanCarolPilgrene

    Only in a America can a person rescue someone from an accident, and the rescued can’t mention it publicly,because it would upset some other racist’s perception of the rescuer,totally ridiculous!!!!

  • BarbieWilson

    Regardless of your opinion, everyone is making great points! Your comments are so much more interesting than the article! :-)

  • SusanCarolPilgrene

    And while I’m on the subject if the FBI and CIA are an ARM OF THE JUSTICE DEPT,and mr holder who’s the head of the JUSTICE DEPT, decides too file a civil rights lawsuit case , won’t that in essence be the same thing, as saying, that and arm of the JUSTICE DEPT OF WHICH HE IS THE HEAD OF, WAS INCOMPETENT IN THERE INVESTIGATION OF ZIMMERMA?

    • SusanCarolPilgrene

      Sorry bout that accidentally hit reply button before I finished typing, , what I was saying basically is the CIA and FBI are under the control of the justice dept and holder decides too file civil charges he’s basically saying that the FBI was incompetent , because they failed too find any instance of racial profiling, and actually found evidence too refute it!!

  • SusanCarolPilgrene

    To be fair I need to correct something that I earlier posted, about a phone call I heard , where I said that I heard a voice on it say , u gotta problem with me, then u hear someone say no, then u hear a voice say, we’ll u do now, since I heard it on the radio I didn’t know it was a taped interview that George Zimmerman gave too the police after he was arrested,it sounded like a phone call, and a not so good recording at that, so I apologize for making that mistake , but whatever else I said on this board I’m still standing by till someone can prove me wrong.

  • SusanCarolPilgrene

    Not only did I hear about the concoction lean , saw it on a Facebook page where he was asking a friend , where he could connect with someone , so he could get some codein, which his friend then told him about the cough syrup, but Trayvon indicated it wasn’t as good, as codein, not only that in my researching stuff about trayvons background, I came across a purported Facebook page, where Trayvon was talking too a friend about a fight he had gotten into , and lost , I guess it didnt sit to wel with him, because he was talking abou going back to even the score, even tho he had been recently suspended

    • petermatmellcom

      SusanCarolPilgrene That’s great.  But this is all irrelevant character assassination (not to mention stomping on a kid’s grave) in the name of… what exactly?  Justifying George Zimmerman’s actions?  The only way this even begin’s to justify his suspicions of Trayvon Martin is if HE did the research and HE knew Trayvon had these incidents in his past.  And we know FROM THE RECORD that he had no clue who Trayvon was – only that he looked “thuggish.” He didn’t witness him committing a crime, didn’t recognize him from previous crimes, didn’t witness him fleeing the scene of a crime, didn’t witness him threatening anyone’s life or property, nor did it turn out Trayvon was about to commit a crime – he wasn’t carrying a weapon, no spray cans, nothing.  He concluded he was “thuggish” without witnessing any of this.  Jesus, let the poor kid rest in peace.

    • SusanCarolPilgrene

      You see some things the judge didnt allow into evidence, because I think she was trying too help the prosecution win their case.I think if George zimmermans past was admissable in court , so should have trayvons past been!I think if zimmermans past run in with the police were brought into the trial, then the jury had a right too know, about the cell phone pics the Facebook postings, and any fights Trayvon was in , because that would go towards showing the kind of attitude he had in dealing with other ppl.There were a few other things I found curious, his parents deliberately tried too paint a picture of Trayvon as some innocent little child, if he was such a good child , why did she send him too his fathers house, was it because he got suspended, or was their more too it? Also someone correct me if I’m wrong , didnt someone at the trial on the witness stand mention too George that the attack might had been video taped by a security camera, and he said something like he would be glad if it was, doesn’t sound like too me,that he was fearful that he did something wrong, if most ppl are in the wrong , they sure wouldn’t be happy, if they were caught on tape, doing something wrong, !!!!

  • RichardRider

    I suspect that, by now, many of you have watched this superb video by the incomparable Bill Whittle—detailing the facts about both George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, and how badly the media misrepresented both men in the tragedy. And yes, no matter how you look at it, this entire experience WAS a tragedy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls#at=65