Clinton's Signature Proves She Lied to Congress about Benghazi


In her testimony on Capitol Hill back in January, almost four full months after the terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya (because that’s how speedy our government is), then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that the State Department never received any requests for increased security to the embassy that was to be attacked.

“They didn’t come to me. I didn’t approve them. I didn’t deny them,” she said of the security requests.

But honestly, what difference, at this point, does it make?

Well, if Republicans in Congress could muster up the conviction, the courage, the energy to question Clinton the Professional Victim again, they would find that it makes quite a difference.

Recently released cables from that very same State Department reveal that Clinton, as a Clinton tends to do, was lying to Congress.

According to a congressional report, “[A]n April 2012 State Department cable bearing Secretary Hillary Clinton’s signature acknowledged then-Ambassador Cretz’s formal request for additional security assets but ordered the withdrawal of security elements to proceed as planned.”

What difference, at this point, does it make? Probably no difference at all, since Republicans will likely let it go, just as they did with President Obama and Eric Holder’s nefarious Fast and Furious plot to have Mexican citizens gunned down by American guns as a pretense for outlawing so-called assault rifles.

We now have Clinton’s own, signed admission that she was asked for additional security in Benghazi and that she denied that request. She now needs to take responsibility for the deaths of the four American diplomats who were tortured and killed because of her decision.

I had a liberal tell me that if Clinton goes to prison, then Bush should be in the cell next to her since he caused more deaths than she did.

But this isn’t about deaths per se. It is about the deliberate denial of requested security and then the deliberate deception under oath about it. Nothing in that is analogous to what Bush did. “He started a war based on a lie!” No, Congress voted to go to war based on information that the majority of the rest of the world believed based on their own intelligence sources–including, by the way, the Clintons themselves.

What I can’t wait to see is a “Hillary 2016″ bumper sticker. It’s entertaining to me to see how low liberals will go, how deep the bottom of the barrel must be before they decide to stop scraping out the muck. Supporting a signature-proven liar that resulted in the deaths of four Americans is pretty low. But as we’ve seen in the last two elections, Americans unfortunately no longer have any standards.







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  • Evermyrtle

    I think that 90% of us know about the lies and the deception that most of these famous or is it infamous politicians has committed. For some unseen unknown reason, we forget about them, when we get to the polls. We  need to discover what our problem is, that we cannot remember and see if we can do something to improve this defect, to remind us when we get before the voting machine, voting machines which we should destroy and go back to pencil and paper.

    • RondaMiller

      Evermyrtle The problem is that a high percentage of us, doesn’t care and/or doesn’t know because they choose to not be informed.  They don’t care because they just vote for whoever “their” party, or their union tells, or their news channel  tells them.  They don’t actually take the time to look at a candidates voting record or check into his character, or they only care if they think a candidate has a freebie for them.

  • pudbertsavannahga

    So put the lying fat biach in JAIL ! ! !

    • RondaMiller

      pudbertsavannahga Not enough congressmen with the back bone to do it.

  • Admiral America

    Nobody in government seems to get in trouble anymore so as long as they follow the orders of the corrupt corporatist establishment. There should be a special branch of government whose sole purpose is to police the government itself.  Random citizens are chosen to serve jury duty style so nobody can be bought off.

    • RondaMiller

      Admiral America The other branch is supposed to be the media – but since we now have government controlled media that group is just as corrupt.

  • James A DeHart

    Remember who her boss was, he should accompany her to jail.    And knowing how corrupt Washington, DC is, eventually no one would be left.   On the bright side, the taxpayer would not have to pay their salaries.

  • jake brake

    The whole Obombnic administration in a lie.

    • RICARDO36

      jake brake At this point the whole government is a lie! We are doomed unless we take it back!

  • AmazedHuman

    The very fact that the Republican Party is letting all of these crucial matters go, rather than standing up and tending to what they should be doing, is causing the death of the GOP. They are doing it to themselves! The Democratic Party is being run by imposters and thugs…and the Republican Party is being led by cowards and fools. If anyone strong and intelligent was to come forward to the American voters for the next election, they would win – hands down! Americans are sick to death of the two major – completely defective – parties as the now exist.

    • john811c

      AmazedHuman It is time finally and fully to embrace a 3rd party in this country. Send a message to both parties We the People Have Fired you

      • AmazedHuman

        john811c AmazedHuman  If there was some way to get an accurate – a real poll – on that subject, and if anyone could get the attention of those fools in Washington, I think it would make their heads swim at the staggering numbers they’d see. Americans are done with being lied to, misrepresented on vital issues, having our tax dollars go to other countries while ours struggles under – in truth – about at least a 14% unemployement rate. We’re sick of Washington owning us – and not the other way around. It’s time to end the regime and get America running right again. And we’ve plainly seen that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are up to the job.

    • RondaMiller

      AmazedHuman no doubt, both parties are too blame.  They’re power hungry and think they are better than “The People”.  However, I don’t know if a strong and intelligent person can win – the American people are going to elect the one giving out the most freebies.  Last election, one guy ran on creating job – the other ran on free birth control and free abortions – look what the people chose.  Too many people, don’t care about the person’s character or record – they only care about the handouts.

  • evans111

    What do you have? A signed admission. Get it authenticated by a reputable celebrity signature expert. If I wrote an article that I had a document signed by some prominent Republican authorizing this or that, you would demand proof of the document’s authenticity, not take it at face-value as a reader of the article.
    All I ask for is the very proof you yourselves demand.

  • Rayma

    I haven’t forgotten about the lies told or the  fact the so called Rino’s(about half of the Republican party)close thier eyes to the garbage the Democrats are doing and end up joining them…very few are FIT to be in DC. Put that down in the History books, I blame the people for voting for a cancerous person to be elected..to destroy this country…However there is hope (Romans 10:9&10) I believe Jesus is just about to come for HIS BRIDE, so there will be room for the illegals unless they have made thier confession of “faith”I have a strange feeling  this year could very well be a different kind of year…

    • john811c

      Rayma I believe that Jesus will return however the US is still NOT repentant. We Have removed God from Our Schools, Courthouses and Government and for this we get what we deserve from Government. Lying and corrupt politicians. There is still more that the country will suffer for we have not repented God’s full judgement will befall us for us rejecting him.  We have not ended abortion ( the murder of innocents) Our government officials portray all this is bad as being good. Homosexuals seek to desecrate Marriage as ordained by God. So when Jesus does return do you think he will know us?

    • RondaMiller

      Rayma I’m with you about the Rino’s – the majority of politicians – both parties – are trash; and yes, the majority of us keep voting them in office.  The people are too blame – for their ignorance and blind allegiance to their party.

  • KurtGrossman

    The USA is run by professional politicians who are for the most part immune from the “Law” since they are responsible for creating them; enforcing them; and interpreting them.  “We the People” are mostly swayed by celebrities and lied to by most of the news media so that the majority don’t have a clue what the truth is.  How did the best democratic republic in the world become so corrupt?  Simple: we took our eyes off of God!  How many times have you heard and repeated the phrase; “Whether the person is a ‘Christian’ or not should not determine whether or not I vote for them.”?  So we stupidly agree with voting for people who do not claim to believe in God; Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit; who publicly support and promote immorality; who willfully deceive and lie under oath; and who don’t even have any remorse when they do it!
    But, you can keep being “open minded” and let ONLY liberal and godless politicians steal elections.  You keep telling good people not to run for office because politics is “too dirty.”  Why should you even vote?  Won’t God take care of everything while you take your kids off to soccer practice?
    2014 is coming up and godless people have far superior resources to get their candidates elected.  They will continue to violate the Constitution because they have placed their friends in positions as attorney generals and judges.  We will never be able to impeach because the majority in the Senate are godless supporters of their illegal practices.
    WITHOUT GOD FORGIVING OUR NATION WE ARE LOST!

  • Samurai_Sam

    It doesn’t matter what they find she’ll never be convicted of anything. If she were a Republican absolutely she’d be chased to the ends of the earth  but lets face it trying to pick her up on anything is like trying to pick a garden slug off a plate glass window with a boxing glove.

    • RondaMiller

      Samurai_Sam Soooo true – the ones in our government who aren’t scum like her, don’t have backbone to do anything; and the American people – not all but many – are too stupid to care.

  • Joy J

    “But what difference does it make, anyway?”, she says….  When are liberal politicians going to understand that everything the say, do, sign or write is captured somewhere???

    • RondaMiller

      Joy J But, the state-run media won’t report it, congress doesn’t have the conviction to do anything, and too many Americans don’t care.  The last election proved this.  That’s why she doesn’t care that her signature is on a piece of paper – nothing will be done, and she knows it.

  • DWinch

    A lying politician? I’m shocked! Got it in writing? What difference does it make….to a Clinton?

    • RondaMiller

      DWinch And…unfortunately…what difference does it make millions of the American people?   Too many people don’t care….they’ll vote for their “guy/gal” because of their blind faith to their party, or because their union told them to, or because the color of the candidate’s skin, or just because they’ve always been told “Democrats are for the working man”.  The truth doesn’t make a difference to these people.  Sick!!!

  • http://comcast.net/ kds

    TREASON!!! What else. With our Government nothing will be done.

  • Tired of Liberals

    “What difference will it make NOW? By the spring summer of 2015, all of this will be OLD HISTORY. Hillary will be “touted” as the second coming of a Clinton……….Who knows, most of the voters who re-elected Obama will be even more morphed into ZOMBIES and she will be a “shoe-in.” If Conservatives are smart they will sit on this and use this to “end” her quest to become a President…………..

  • pguild01

    The U.S. Congress voted to invade Iraq  since Iraq had weapons of Mass destruction.  Those weapons were moved to Syria, so the WMD weren’t found in Iraq, but the WMD have recently been used in Syria, which proves the WMD did exist.    It’s no surprise to me that Hillary Clinton would lie to the U.S. Congress under oath, but she must be made to make restitution for this outlandish behavior.  Peter Guild, Quincy, MA.

  • Sgt York

    why would anyone not think this ol wind bag would tell the  truth. HillBilly Clinton is another O,Vomit wanna be,this way Bubber could be the first Man and chase the broads there at home in the WH while HillBilly was out flyin and liein to us poor souls who she is a tryin to save from the dang Muslims and in the rear view is huggin up to them.

  • RondaMiller

    Everyone, except the people denying the truth of this administration –  knew that Clinton was lying, the day this story broke!  We also know who else is lying – but it doesn’t matter because our government will do nothing now to prosecute the people who allowed Benghazi to happen and we still have too many Americans choosing to keep on blinders.     Every time I think of what the ambassador and Tryone Woods and Glenn Dogherty went through – it actually makes my stomach upset.  I truly believe that there is a special place in Hell for everyone involved in Benghazi  - and for all the Americans who knew about it and kept this administration in office.  What our government did, was nothing short of evil – and I believe that God gives justice to those who are evil.

  • USMC CAPTAIN

    Republicans MUST DESTROYER Hillary Clinton, otherwise they will be taking orders from her after 2016!

  • frobozwiz

    well i only have one question_______  How much longer and how much more are we going to take?????  I am holding my gun right now and I am ready to march to Washington..  I have had enough of the lies I also would make a new law that if the media is found to be biased in there reporting they are removed from the air for one day for each incident!!!!!!!!  REPORT THE FACTS OR NO NEWS

    • USMC CAPTAIN

      frobozwiz Hi there, if you really want to do something that is GREAT! OK, start with organizing your family, your friends and your area for Martial Law and maybe a Civil War!

      • Ron Willson

        USMC CAPTAIN frobozwiz Captain. I almost wish there was something about your advise I could take exception with. Unfortunately I can’t think of any and that scares the hell out of me. Regards.

    • RondaMiller

      frobozwiz I feel the same way, but there isn’t anything we can do.  We are surrounded by almost half (47%) who are dependent on the government. Who knows what percentage of additional people who are just to stupid to face the truth of what is going on.  We have a government and media that paints us as “racist” and “terrorist” because we are willing to fight for our freedoms and don’t like socialism.  We can’t get enough people together to march on Washington, because of the ignorance.  If we did get enough people, we’d be gunned down before we walked our first mile – and they the government would say “see we need to take away guns – all these angry, right-wing-racists are crazy”.  The government would probably send a drone to take us out – they wouldn’t send one to help Tryone and Glenn in Benghazi – but they ‘d send one for us.  And, I bet we wouldn’t get read our rights, like the Muslim who just bombed Boston.  Then to top it off – millions in this country would vote for another tyrant to give them handouts – because that’s all millions really care about – the hand outs.  Our main problem isn’t the idiots in Washington – it’s the idiots willing to give up freedom for handouts.

  • mjnellett

    You take a rope, find a lamp post, or tree, and you hang some of them by the neck until they are dead. Nothing is going to change the caliber of people that we put in office, as knowing that the people are NOT going to be robbed, lied to, and scammed by the low life politicians, more than a good, public hanging! Fast & Furious, Solyndra, Benghazi, Pigford (U.S.D.A. massive fraud) The Mirandizing of the surviving Boston Bomber, which resulted in important intelligence being lost, just as it was when Obama prematurely claimed credit for killing Bin Lauden. Last, but not least, the great pretender punishing the American public because their representatives in Congress wouldn’t knuckle under and give Obama unchecked spending power! This scumbag and his Chicago Thugocracy have to go. If the current majority of Republicans don’t have the guts to hold these thugs accountable then we will just have to find people who will.

  • JerryBroussard

    We must begin a conservative “get-out-the-vote” campaign right now. The blogasphere has been effective, but too much talk. We need righteous action. We must NOW begin the overturn of the Left in next years mid-term elections.

    • LaVerneVelasco

      JerryBroussard  VERY good idea. WE have to take action and it must be NOW. Larry VELASCO

    • NHConstitutionalist

      JerryBroussard  First things first Jerry we need to have viable candiates running that can articulate to the public what is going on the real ramifications and actual solutions to the problems we face. We also need to be realistic, especialy in swing states that went blue and go for the independent vote. Independents are the ones that must be targeted to win. The liberals are a lost cause, their combinded heads are buried so far up O’s anal canal they breathe through his navel.
      Contacting our GOP state party chair is where it starts.

  • JerryBroussard

    If you know anyone claiming to be a Christian, and they DID NOT VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION, lovingly rebuke them, get them registered and continue to encourage them to get out and vote next November. Fill up your vehicle if need be to get out the vote and throw these Leftest out of office.

    • RondaMiller

      JerryBroussard If you go to http://www.OneNationUnderGodRadio.com, you can get pamphlets to distribute about Obama and our founding fathers.  A little spiritual – history lesson.  I have hundreds.  I leave them in waiting rooms at doctors’ offices, with the ads and free papers in the front of grocery stores – anywhere public; and I give them to fellow Conservatives to distribute.  It is one way to help spread the truth.

  • LaVerneVelasco

    Of course she’s GUILTY. But, like the words LEGAL and ILLEGAL, the Usama MUSLIM PUNK Obama’s administration doesn’t understand the words. Well, I wonder if that PRICK understands, ARREST, TRY, CONVICT and EXECUTE??? Reason he should is, that’s what should happen to the PUNK. He is no leader.. He is a PARASITES just like ALL of the ILLEGALS that come into OUR country to take. WE took California from them once in a war, WE can do it again. Larry VELASCO, AMERICAN and Hispanic who is for CLOSING OUR BORDERS to ALL and DO IT yesterday.

    • Retired USAF MSGT

      LaVerneVelasco Did you know that California was liberated from Mexico in the 1840s due to a man called General Vallejo? He was a Hispanic General in the war against Mexico to form the Republic of California. California’s Capitol was Benicia on the Sacramento/San Joaquin delta. The United States did not fight that war, the citizens of California did. The Hispanics, Causations, Russians , and the local Native Tribes had had enough of the Mexican repression and took it into their own hands to rid the Republic of California of the Mexican Government. Too bad they no longer teach that FACT in the California school systems.

  • Don York

    That woman wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit her in the ass!

  • JBEACH

    Doesn’t the phrase, “I take full responsibility for my actions”   cover just about everything?  That is exactly what they would say and that is the end of it.  It is all done verbally and if that is not satisfactory…..well, it has to be satisfactory.

    • JoeRemote

      JBEACH  That is EXACTLY what Hillary said – verbatim – when Obama pass the issue over to her.  You are so right, nothing seems to matter any more – NOTHING.

    • JoeRemote

      JBEACHAnd to the 2 folks who “unliked” Beach’s posting, how could you?

  • deanied

    Hillary has let her ego get WAY too big & the Lies along with it.   She is NO Lady & NOTHING would ever make her a responsible person!  What the hell did she do as Sec. of State!  She gained weight & grew frumpy!  Just biding her time to come back after the deal she & BO had…That is disgusting in itself!

  • JerryBroussard

    We must guard against any defeatist attitudes. Enough talk. We must go in the power and blessing of God to take His country that He created for the spreading of the Gospel around the world. Every action and word must be bathed in God’s grace, love and righteousness. Stop with all the name calling. Speak the truth in love. By doing so we get out of the way for God to fight this battle for us. We must behave above our opponents. We must maintain the righteous attitudes and actions of those representing the Kingdom of God, our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

    • RondaMiller

      JerryBroussard I wish I could stop the defeatist attitude.  I just see no hope, not because of Obama or the Clintons – because of the millions of Americans who chose to put on blinders and not acknowledge the truth. I can and do respect other people’s points of view – but what has happened in this country is not merely a difference in opinion – people are willfully turning an eye to the facts and the truth.  This is mind boggling to be, because we live in an age, where the truth and the facts can be found with little effort, yet so many people don’t want to know the truth.  What type of people chose ignorance and lies over facts and truth?!?!  This is why I feel we are defeated and have no hope.  Oh, our country will survive and people will continue to live, just as other communist and socialist countries do, but many of our freedoms are gone and many more will be.  I’ve been in mourning since the election.  I really feel like someone I love has died; truth is she was dieing before this past presidential election, but I lost hope after November; and I just can’t shake the attitude, the sadness, and sometimes the anger.

      • lilolady

        RondaMiller JerryBroussard The loss of our Nation has broken many hearts, Rhonda.  All of your symptoms  bespeak the depth of our loss.

        • RondaMiller

          lilolady RondaMiller JerryBroussard I prayed and I went door to door, and I volunteered, and I looked up everything – I didn’t lie about anything I said,I always verified and found facts before I told people anything about a candidate.  Then I prayed some more.  I checked out the rumors, for both men, regardless of whether or not the rumor supported my beliefs.  I helped campaign, tried to educate people with facts, contributed a little money, and went to rallies.  And I prayed some more.  The facts were so obvious in this election and the lies easy to find, that I just couldn’t believe how people turned from the truth and the nasty things that came out of their mouths when confronted with truth.  So, I prayed some more.  I was devastated after the election – not because Obama was president, but we have turned into a country where the people would elect someone like him.  This must be God’s will.  God’s plans aren’t always easy though, so even though I know it is his plan, I know we are probably in for a tough time and it just makes me really sad.

      • Ron Willson

        Ronda Apathy is what many of us felt was our biggest enemy during the entire republican primary cycle. Those of us like myself that spent 12 to 14 hours a day campaigning for our champion in these comment box trench wars as I called them. Gave our all. Never losing hope. Some because of their religious beliefs that God would step in and win the day. Others who just knew in their hearts that something or overcoming event would grab the sleepers by the scruff of the neck and give them a jolting slap in the face or a brick would fly in the the window and destroy their TV’S. But alas. What became more apparent as the Tampa convention drew near was an ugly fog started to settle in. Even then we fought on because we knew in our hearts and minds that we were backing one of America’s last true to the bone Patriot’s, and the only one in the race. While none of us believed for a minute that if we got him into the oval office that we would awaken the next morning to a  country starting the first day of the rest of her life. We did know that providing him with the Presidential Bully Pulpit and Ink Pen that if nothing else would bring the attacks against our foundational chartering document to an abrupt stop, and cause every law maker in both houses on both sides to know that it was no longer business as usual because there was a new Sheriff in town. One who spent his entire lifetime walking the walk in all aspects of it both public and private. The traitors, both within and without think they won. Technically they did. But it cost them big time. They had to use every asset they had, call in every chit, force their owned talking bobbleheads to embarrass not only themselves. But the entire entrenched election machine that has been picking our Presidents for us since 1913. Hell if they had spent half of what they did making sure that Ron Paul wouldn’t get near the Oval Office on a Candidate that could pass the smell test.they could have let an honest election run its course, still won, and there wouldn’t be over 200 plus youtube video’s showing just how much pressure the local, State and federal  RNC entrenched officials were under as displayed by their overt actions that were underhanded, illegal and in many cases felonious. Which by the way all of you that are here blaming everyone but yourselves need to consider. Anyone who paid attention to this years election with a 60 IQ would have seen the sham our election process really is. That said, it begs a serious question. Since the last time I looked. Election Fraud, Voter suppression, and Election Rigging are still on the books as Felonies. Why is it then that NOBODY on any side of the Isle of High Ranking Position in any of our Local. State and Federal level Legislative, Law Enforcement, or Military From President and Attorney General all the way down to Dog Catcher, From 5 Star all the way down to military Police Private. From The Majority/ Minority leaders of both houses all the way down to the office mail clerk, Saying or Doing anything to correct probably one of the biggest black eye America has ever been given? Inquiring minds want to know. All of you who are frustrated as I need focus on our real problems not sit and tear each other apart placing blame on this person or that person. It is the root cancer that has our country on life support. Not the individual effected cells. Stop playing their game. You can’t win. Change the game, Make the rules. Keep them on Defence. Force them to fight amongst them selves. THINK !

  • DavidCook1

    I wish the media would stop saying that Hillary Clinton mislead the American people.  Why can’t they just tell it like it is?  She lied and it didn’t take a brain surgeion to figure that one out.  It’s the same political cover ups that seems to come back and haunt our leaders time and time again.  When will they figure out that it’s best to tell the truth and look bad for a couple of days rather than lie and look discusting forever?

  • huntingfreedominAmerica

    If Clinton was to run for President she would get elected. The black voter voted for Obama only because he was black after years of hatred toward the blacks and for the years they were not allowed to vote it was time to show American that the blacks could win and lead, only the blacks didn’t count on a black communist running. And like the black voters the women will put Clinton in office for much of the same reason. And the two Obama and Clinton have one thing in common and that is the Communist Party Agenda. I don’t think the Republican Party has to worry about the illegals voting in a communist because they are trying to get away from that from were they have came from. Women voters have a lot of power remember men they control the household and everything in it. So don’t count Hilary Clinton out remember everybody lies once in awhile so Hilary will get a free walk on the lie wait and see, sad but true.

    • RondaMiller

      huntingfreedominAmerica Sadly, you are right.

  • critical thinker

    One of my many working incarnations was as a salesperson, direct, door-to-door and the 1st thing one learns in sales training is that people make most buying decisions based on emotions, not reason.  The 2012 election was a beautiful example.  The Republicans put forth a lot of facts, common sense reasons, and logic as to why the populace should vote for them.  But the emotions won out!  Whether it was the fear or jealousy  ploys used by the Dems, or the emotions of not wanting to do w/o the freebies, or the deeply felt emotion of blacks that they must vote for “one  of their own”, it was NOT a decision based on critical thinking.  Conservatives must find a way to involve the voters in stories that have emotional appeal, people want to vote for people they LIKE, even if they are lying pieces baloney.

    • ingersoncj

      critical thinker and here my friend you have identified the meaning of rhetoric which has basically controlled the majority of public and private education for the past 2700 years – including religion and most especially politics.

      • Canadianlady

        ingersoncj critical thinker Woops, I meant to say pathos (emotional appeals) trump logos (logical appeals).

    • Canadianlady

      critical thinker In the world of persuasion, ethos always trumps logos.  People are irrational creatures with short attention spans, so that throws logos out the window.  The GOP must wake up to this reality and start fighting back with the proper tools.  It’s time for a new campaign model.

      • JoeRemote

        Canadianlady critical thinker I am not so much a fan of the Reps any more.  I am now a Conservative b/c I am sick and tired of seeing everything the media posts in whatever way is so one-sided!  Have people forgotten right from wrong?

        • Canadianlady

          JoeRemote Canadianlady critical thinker I’m turned off by the Republican Party nowadays, too.  I understand why Conservatives are upset with them.  Big government is destroying the fabric of society, and the media seem to be their biggest defenders.  There once was a time when it was not cool to be so pro-government; but, since the radical leftist extremist, Barack 0bama, arrived on the scene, everything has been turned upside down, and it’s now a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

      • lilolady

        Canadianlady critical thinker The GOP has committed suicide.  There is no waking up from that.

        • Canadianlady

          lilolady Canadianlady critical thinker No doubt.

  • mannasage

    I beg your pardon http://lastresistance.com/author/chrisgraham/ , but where do you get off saying “But as we’ve seen in the last two elections, Americans unfortunately no longer have any standards.” Edit that to read that “our politicians & you media goons don’t have any standards.”
    What are you, drunk again???

    • cola

      mannasage I have standards and so does my family.  Its the media and writers like this one who don’t!!  Our politicians certainly don’t now do the 50% on the government dole!

  • RickJason

    Boehner, McConnell, McCain and the other Progressive Repubes must be removed!  Because of their betrayal to the Constitution and their oaths,  We The People have suffered greatly, at the hands of the anti-American  and illegal POTUS.  Unfortunately,  it is going to take a Civil War to eradicate this disease.  Hopefully,  by the time it is over,  these elements will have been “dealt with” by the patriots.

    • cola

      RickJason I agree – find us some more Tex Cruz’s will you please to take their place??

  • Not A Farmer

    Hillary Clinton needs to go to jail for lying under oath.  She & Bill lied under oath while Bill was president; she lied about dodging bullets when her daughter and she went to the Gulf region and now with this UNEXCUSIBLE denial of military support for the embassy.   She has gotten away with so many lies over the decades.  She just thinks it is perfectly acceptable to lie and expect the people to accept them.

    • RondaMiller

      Not A Farmer She is not the first politician to get away with it.  I’m not fan, but I have to be honest – both sides get away with things we common folk wouldn’t get away with.  It is acceptable for her to lie, it is acceptable for all of them to lie; the majority of Americans just keep right on voting for the same liars over an over.

      • cola

        RondaMiller Not A Farmer She is an habitual liar!

        • RondaMiller

          cola RondaMiller Not A Farmer You are right, but millions of Americans love liars.  :(

        • huntingfreedominAmerica

          cola RondaMiller Not A Farmer  So right you are,The real problem is 90% of politicians are liars and 99 % of democrat politicians DO. So what does that mean for us?

        • RondaMiller

          huntingfreedominAmerica cola RondaMiller Not A Farmer We’re screwed and we’d better pray more???

  • Ron Willson

    After reading page of comments here. I’m thinking pretty much everybody commenting here are one. Were living on some other planet during our last election cycle, or two suffering from a bad case of group amnesia. You people seem to think your votes mattered or were even counted

    • cola

      Ron Willson We like to think our votes counted but given the voter fraud by Obama – you may be right!1

      • Ron Willson

        cola Ron Willson You must not watched the insanity displayed by the Reps. During their Electoral college primaries.. The last week leading up to both parties convention has me still afraid of picking up the dropped soap in a shower.

        • RondaMiller

          Ron Willson cola That’s funny, thanks for the chuckle!

        • Ron Willson

          RondaMiller Ron Willson cola Ronda a little laughter now and then is the key to picking yourself up out of the quagmire the brings on the defeatist syndrome you talked about in another post that I replied to.

  • http://gratisbooks.com rtryon

    Obama won’t mind if Hillary’s exposure here might be mitigated if he allowed she miss-understood him and made a mistake because she is now a medical drop-out for 2016 and he has a close family member to be a superwoman candidate!  Besides by 2016 nobody else will want the job!

    • cola

      rtryon someone will ALWAYS want the job – but can you imagine thunder butt Moochella as president?  EGADS!!

      • http://gratisbooks.com rtryon

        cola rtryon  Of course, she would be too busy with vacation to do much, but her old assistant would still do the talking, planning, etc. for her. Unless, of course, he gets elected as Pres of World!

  • JoeRemote

    All of the media (TV, radio, newspapers on and on and on) show only what they want folks to know.  There is a whole “other” side to what is the TRUTH, and if u r at all interested, try listening to Rush Limbaugh just for 2 weeks, or watch Glenn Beck, or any other Conservative media.  They present and analyze in no-nonsense terms so that everyone can understand all of the items, facts, myths, mis-interpretations, eliminated items (and there are soooo many), truths, lies, desecration of our Constitution, desperate actions that cover up truths and the real.  Today’s kids are being taught in school only the things the Liberal Dems want them to learn.  The textbooks have been changed, modified and compromised to eliminate very important facts, like there was no annihilation of 6 million Jews and millions of others innocent people  Just in the wrong place at the wrong time  How pitifully sad!.  My kids 8 & 11 come home with comments that curl my hair sometimes at how they are being brainwashed.  Has everyone forgotten “NEVER FORGET”, after WWII?  Look how many folks are commenting here and this is a relatively new posting.  And there are so many others like this on so many other websites.  We all need to rise up and stop the uprising!

    • RondaMiller

      JoeRemote I am ready, willing, and able to rise up!!!  But I think we are outnumbered by the people who are watching, listening, and reading the state-run -media.  Too many people not taking the time to know the truth.  I told a Lib something I knew for a fact and she called me a liar and absolutely refused to look it up.  I don’t expect people to just blindly believe what I or anyone says – but how do you fight people so ignorant that they immediately yell “liar” or “racist” without checking into what they are told?  You can’t fix stupid.

    • cola

      JoeRemote i hope you have them bring home examples of lesson plans and post them to the web so all parents are aware!!

    • mogul264

      JoeRemote There’s UPs and DOWNs about listening to Rush, Glenn Beck, etc. On one hand I appreciate finding about all the sleights-of-hand done in our current government, the lies, misrepresentations, or whatever you might call them, all the political wranglings, and dodges, the who’s who list of the latest liberal-owned federally funded corporations who have FAILED after WASTING millions of federal funds, finding out which idiotic Senator or Representative has AGAIN introduced ANOTHER insane tax bill, weapons ban bill, bill to fund the study of left-handed marmosets in Alaska, , ANOTHER bill to help prostitutes in China, etc, etc !
      On the OTHER hand, after finding about all the above, I am totally pissed about the CRAP being done by our current government! You know, trying to terminate our rights, trying to increase our bloated bureaucracy, trying to RAISE our taxes to pay for the bloated bureaucracy we ALREADY HAVE, etc, etc !

      • RondaMiller

        mogul264 JoeRemote Yeah, I stopped listening after the election.  I mean whats the point of being informed and knowing what the government is doing – when millions of Americans vote to keep things the same way?!  It is just maddening to know our country is being destroyed and most people don’t care. Just give them their freebie and they’ll bury their head in the sand.

        • mogul264

          RondaMiller mogul264 JoeRemote The majority who voted for Obama voted also to retain him and his liberal crew, and  still are enamored of what the liberals can ‘give’ them (uncaring of the fact: what’s GIVEN to some, must be REMOVED from others, or just totally clueless AND uncaring to this), so, the ‘givers’ remain in power. The  now ruling-class votes FOR those promising ‘free’ cheese, phones, welfare, housing, etc! The minority, producing-class, workers/tax payers, will have to provide, SOMEHOW! This is called the ‘tyranny of the majority’!  
          Ancient Rome found, to THEIR doom, that these ‘recipients’, could FORCE the rest of Rome to SUPPORT them, as they were the voting MAJORITY. Plus, now not working (slaves WERE doing the REAL work, after all!),  they became bored! Free bread, and the Roman Colosseum displays…….naval battles, gladiator/gladiator, animal/animal, and animal/Christian fights,  races……all were used as distractions for the populace. These  citizen ‘slackers, voted more, and ever more to be spent on themselves! Rome’s civic maintenance and defense funds were slashed to cover this! Rome fell due to internal problems! Aided, somewhat, by Attila and the Huns, of course.
          We are now in the same path as the Romans……..the voters have discovered that they can effectively ‘give THEMSELVES a ‘raise’, and they are GOING WITH IT! (There’s that ‘tyranny of the majority’, again!) Now, where could they have learned about THAT? Congress? Nah! Congress couldn’t, …..WOULDN’T EVER do th……..! (oops!)

        • RondaMiller

          mogul264 RondaMiller JoeRemote We will collapse from within also, I have no doubt.

  • edgineer

    It is impossible to reason with Democrats or try to get them to acknowledge the facts. They are as bad as Muslim Jihadists in their beliefs. Only extreme actions will stop them from destroying our republic.

    • RondaMiller

      edgineer You are soooo right.  I have more than one example of trying to have a discussion with a Dem, only to be called a “liar”, a “racist”, a “redneck”, or told “I don’t agree with everything the president does, but I like him”.   What type of person dismisses anything you say without checking it out?  What type of person denies the truth?  What type of person votes for man who has terrorist ties, skyrockets the deficit, adds millions to welfare, makes unemployment worse, and on-and-on.  We aren’t dealing with reasonable people or people who care about the truth.

      • RondaMiller

        edgineer RondaMiller That might be the technical term, but I have another term for them…..too much of a  lady to share in public though.  :)

      • edgineer

        The technical term for such people is psychotic. And that is a fact. It
        has been estimated that 1/3 of our population suffers from one form or
        another of mental illness. It is the biggest problem our country faces.

        • CharlieSeattle

          edgineer So stay on your meds!

        • RondaMiller

          CharlieSeattle edgineer Agreed, it might help people make a better decision when voting!  :)

      • edgineer

        RondaMiller edgineer Awwww.

  • cola

    Heads of major departments never read all they sign – that is why they are briefed by staff members.  My husband used to manage a billion dollar aerospace program and there is no way he could read everything.  That is what his staff is for so this is a bit specious about Hillary.  However she was the head of Susan Rice and should have stopped her from putting out the lies about Benghazi and some video – rather than allowing it to go on.  She murdered the 4 men in Benghazi and Obama participated by NOT sending out gun ships to defend them – they both are murderers!1

    • RondaMiller

      cola Yes they are and so is every American who knew about Benghazi and still voted to re-elect him.  Congress won’t take care of  Obama or Hillary, but God will and I hope he also takes care of the voters who knew.

    • deleted_13444607_gjbare

      cola Boy does that leave him open to fraud and agendas of other people.  But if that is how he trust his staff members, well then he may be in the same fix as Hillary Clinton.  Something so important as security for the people in Benghazi should have been one for her reading.  If she was just briefed then she knew that she was signing an important paper.  Who changed the talking points before sending this letter out????????

  • MyTurnNow

    If you dont read it, you better have a trustworthy staff.  But this in snot about whether she approved teh security or not.  It si about hte FACT that she lied about approving it, under oath.  But we all know that a liberal lying uncer oath is not a problem to the media, or DNC voters.  So, why evern waste the time to administer the oath?  Red herrings.  The only way liberals can debate is to avoid the facts.

  • davienne

    Im  shocked……. Hitlery Cankles Clintoon lied !!!!!
    NAAAAAAA !!!!!! NOT SO MUCH

  • JoeBandMember ≠

    Why would the Republicans avoid this? Are there no statesmen left? Are they THAT terrified of the presstitute media?
    The Democrats have neutered the Republicans and now march through the streets with the Republicans’ gonads in a sack.

    • RondaMiller

      JoeBandMember ≠ Because the Republicans (not all of course) are just as bad..   This isn’t about the Left vs. the Right, this is about “We the People” vs. the Government.  We have a government – both sides – who feel that they are above the law.  They have an elitist mentality – they are royalty and we are the common folk.  It is just like the book “Animal Farm”……the pigs are in the white house and “some of us are more equal than others”.

    • CharlieSeattle

      JoeBandMember ≠ lol

  • JosephRCarreiroSr

    Benghazi is the straw that broke the camel’s back in my opinion.The boomerang that will keep returning.The debacle that you wish you knew nothing about.This is a blockbuster story.Think with all your might on this one.

    • RondaMiller

      JosephRCarreiroSr I don’t know.  This story was out before the election – and Obama still got elected.  And before this, it was out that he is sending tax payer money to the Muslim Brotherhood.  I thought that was the straw that broke the camels back.  I mean what type of person votes for a man who is sending our money to the Muslim Brotherhood.  This should have spoken volumes!  The same people that are okay with funding terrorist, who want to kill us, are certainly okay with a few Americans dieing while the White House watches; and they are the same people who voted to keep him in office.

      • Combat Veteran Seabee

        RondaMiller JosephRCarreiroSr You have obviously forgotten that the MSM didn’t report SH’T about anything, but got on their knees before him and sucked!

        • RondaMiller

          Combat Veteran Seabee RondaMiller JosephRCarreiroSr I know, but still, millions of people had to know and they had to been talking – God knows I was telling anyone with a pulse.  You may be right, I hope you are, I just have little hope/faith left in the American people.

      • ingersoncj

        RondaMiller JosephRCarreiroSr - maybe I missed something there was an election? Not when 109% vote 100% and the voting machines change your vote – it would seem maybe it was a coronation without resume’ – with the violent poll watchers – and fraud found most everywhere in the 21+ urban areas which decide our elections now – surely this was not an election – as was the one in 2008 – of course MSM called them elections – so guess that makes them ‘what’?

  • JoeZimmerman

    Hilly like  her  husband  is  a  scumbag  liar   ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • vietnamvet1971

    Remember she said “What difference does it make now” because you will not get or touch me.

    • RondaMiller

      vietnamvet1971 And…… Americans are already dead, and idiots will still vote for me and everyone involved.

      • vietnamvet1971

        RondaMiller vietnamvet1971  you got that right, being an Elitist Liberal Big Shot know it all has its perks like snubbing your nose and telling investigators to go away. Her and Ole billy bob sex pervert husband railroaded / Ran Nixon out of office NOW it is her turn to be  ran out of Town like a Fool.

  • StantonLore

    file perjury charges against her and put her ass in prison.

    • RondaMiller

      StantonLore If only we could find people in Congress with the backbone to do it!!!

      • Combat Veteran Seabee

        RondaMiller StantonLore  Get rid of boehner and things would happen!!!

        • mudguy

          Combat Veteran Seabee RondaMiller StantonLore Yes and add Eric Canter, McLame, Graham, Carl Rove and Reince Priebus then thins will start to happen.

        • Evermyrtle

          Combat Veteran Seabee RondaMiller StantonLore One thing that  Boehner is not: unlike JESUS CHRIST who underwent all kinds of  ridicule and hate HE stood strong, Boehner olnly bowed his head, wept and cowed down to the enemy.What will we do when they come after us, think about that because it is coming.!!!!

        • Combat Veteran Seabee

          Evermyrtle Combat Veteran Seabee RondaMiller StantonLore I don’t know about you, but I was rained to fight and a fight they’ll get!

  • phyl1943

    She’s a clinton, that is all she knows how to do.  And this qu*** broad wants to run for president in 2016.  We already have a “habitual, compulsive, perpetual liar in office now and have to put up with him for another 3 1/2 years – so why would we want another one?????????

  • lavender lady

    First fast and furious,then Benghaze and now the boston bombing, What is it going to take for the american people to realize that that man in the oval office needs to vacate at once. What next an atomic bomb from iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

    • cowfeeder

      lavender lady More than likely it will be OUR planes coming at us from Egypt–why do you think he gave them to Egypt?  Not just the goodness of that black lump he calls his heart!

  • lavender lady

    O by the way odumbo was at the planned parenthood convention today and gave them a wonderful speech how they care for the health of woman. Bull crap tell that to the babies that have aborted by them. How dare he speak today when the trial for that evil dr. in Philly goes on. Really. And he says he is a Christian.

    • RondaMiller

      lavender lady Wow, I just read yesterday that he had cancelled that speech because of the trial.  It doesn’t matter, he can do anything or say anything and his followers will just keep on blindly following.  Makes me sick!

      • DanaPreston

        RondaMiller: Did you hear that from CNN – Communist Network News OR is it Clinton Network News?

        • RondaMiller

          DanaPreston I ‘m pretty sure I read it on a news story, like this one, because I posted something about it being the first time he did something I agreed with.  I was surprised that he had cancelled – obviously I read it wrong or the story was a fake – and that doesn’t surprise me.

      • GrizzMann

        RondaMiller lavender lady , he cancelled the Keynote speech only. Won’t cancel a money making appearance.

    • cowfeeder

      lavender lady And he lies about being a Christian–An Islamist cannot be a Christian–

      • Evermyrtle

        cowfeeder lavender lady I think thsi will fit in the Bible verse where goodis called and badis called good
        Isaiah 5;20 WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL EVIL GOOD, AND GOOD EVIL; THAT  PUT DARKNESS FOR LIGHT AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS; THAT PUT BITTER FOR SWEET AND SWEET FOR BITTER
        He is so evil that he has not a clue what the WORD OF GOD says. If he knows a verse or two he has no idea what they mean , is my guess.

      • GrizzMann

        cowfeederlavender lady, Muslims are permitted to lie. Under, Taqiyya and Kitman. Infidels can be lied to and break oaths. Apostasy, publicly rejecting Islam, in Islam, had penalties up to death. The reason Obama is not issued a fatwa for his death is, they know he is lying about being a Christian.

        • LadyBGood

          GrizzMann cowfeeder lavender lady O takes that license to lie to heart!

  • lel2007

    So, another Clinton lied. What are ya going to do about it? She’ll likely be elected president.

  • RoscoeBonifitucci

    Huh?  A Clinton Lies?  How is that possible?  
    (answer:  it is in the Hypocritical DNA of every Libtard.)

  • BobGofIowa

    Charge her with contempt of Congress and perjury and throw her cow ass in jail.

    • cowfeeder

      BobGofIowa How about her and Obama in the same cell–it was his muslim brothers they were protecting–am I the only one who heard him say, “I am a Muslim” and then another time he said he would not go against his muslim brothers; so there you have the answers to why it happened.  We will never know what Stevens knew that he might tell so he was killed for insurance that we Americans will never know the reason behind that murder.  They tried to get Hillary but she is a tough old bird and only “fainted” didn’t die as she was supposed to do.

    • GrizzMann

      BobGofIowa, WHO in the Obama administration does not have Contempt for Congress? Exceptions are , Hank Johnson Guam Tip over and  Sheila Jackson Lee where’s the flag  Neil Armstrong planted on Mars.

  • FestisFloyd

    The liberals of today don’t know, don’t want to know and don’t care.

    • huntingfreedominAmerica

      FestisFloyd  Even when you try to show them the names on the list of Who’s Who in the Socialist Party that in the Congress  they won’t look, now that ‘s stupid. Then to share the 1963 Manifesto of the Communist of the 45 items they wanted to do to destroy America, that has been done to the tee. If they can’t see it, they don’t have to believe it.

      • FestisFloyd

        huntingfreedominAmerica FestisFloyd Agreed,  a country of ‘The Marching Morons’ as C. Kornblkuth wrote 50 years previously.

      • mogul264

        huntingfreedominAmerica FestisFloyd There’s an old saying, goes like, “There are none so blind as those who won’t see!” And, if they don’t admit it, they get by with lying to themselves!

  • Brabado

    Honestly folks, who cares!
    Democrats/Liberals/ will go on lying through their teeth, over and over again and nothing will ever happen.
    Our County  has become a Nation of sheep, after drinking the Obama coolaid, and running into a U.S. Congress full of Republican RINOS!
    So, lets pack and move to Greenland!
    No Guts, No Glory!

    • Drifanwulf

      Brabado Why not take a section of our own country for ourselves rather than Greenland. It’s too cold there.

  • Bay0Wulf

    Hilary Lied … Wow! Big News there folks!
    As far as whether she is likely to get elected or not … today the Big Corporations and the top 10% of the Top 1% are pretty much calling the tune to which we all are dancing. These people, with the media and Our Government in their pockets are going to push the US Citizenry into pretty much anything they want. The Republicans and the Democrats are completely corrupt and rotten … pretty much bought and paid for.
    The Tea Party Candidates are currently our best bet because Big Business and Big Money hasn’t figured out what to do about them. We need to keep pushing to get more of them in there NOT as a “NEW” Party but as “vetted” by the TEA Party as having Our Best Interests REALLY at heart.
    Nothing will be done about Hilary, the travesty that is B. OBummer, or any of the screwed up things being done by this administration because Big Money, Big Business, Wall Street, Big Banking are ALL making money hand over fist … and I MEAN “Hand Over Fist”. They continue to make money whether things are looking up OR looking down … in fact, they probably make MORE when things are bleakest.
    They OWN the media … it is no longer the media sucking up to them … the media (TV, Newspapers, Magazines, “Standard” InterNet News Outlets, National “Public” Radio) is owned by those who are raping This Country, Raping Me, Raping YOU, Raping YOUR CHILDREN & YOUR GRANDCHILDREN.
    WE MUST change things. The TEA Party’s vetting of ALL Politicians is one of the very few glimmers of light left to us.

  • PatAlexander

    Never build with lies as it becomes mushy over time! Built with truth to stand the test of time! Now hillary rodham clinton you know “what difference does it make”!

  • SSpade

    Would be refreshing to hear from any Democrat who could tell the truth, if there are any.   It is a mystery to me how any of you regulars on this and other blogs could vote for any of these dishonest socialists.   Few, if any, of you will admit to not voting for Romney,   However,  the numbers speak for themselves.   Three million fewer Republicans voted in November than voted for McCain in 2008.  About one percent voted libertarian and some idiots wrote in names.   The reelection of Obama will plague the USA for a generation, or longer, unless something unforeseen happens,   The socialist Democrats have estalished permanent majority.

  • Tony Ruiz

    Somebody tell our good for nothing congress to prosecute her as if they had any balls

    • ingersoncj

      Tony Ruiz  Hi Tony – then they’d have to prosecute the WH – and over 2/3 of their own – never happen – to them it’s all a game and we’re the pawns who sacrifice our time, money and eventually our lives and our freedoms – c

  • mjz4043

    Hillary learns from the best liars around..and if penned in a corner, ATTACK.  If you can’t lie, you bully.  It works for Obama, why not her and every other worthless politician in Congress.   I was just furious at her for her attack when she was cornered & the liberals I talked to were just as furious at her questioners.  When she said, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”, I had to restrain myself from throwing something at the TV set.  What an arrogant response!  What an ignorant response!  And worse for the families of the dead, What an unsympathetic response.  They were there to find out what exactly had happened and that egotistic female had the nerve to say What difference does it make?  In my opinion, the purpose was to get to the bottom of that nightmare so it won’t happen to any more innocent men and women.  Disgusting woman…and I used to almost like her.

    • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

      mjz4043  You once almost made a HUGE error in judgement, mjz. Sadly, there’s no telling how many are out there who STILL think she is likeable!

      • mjz4043

        southernshade mjz4043 I know, I know…that was back in the 90s when I was still young (now 70) and innocent.  Plus my husband HATED her & I am a contrarian by nature.

        • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

          mjz4043 southernshade OH, my WORRRRRD. Do you mean to tell me I have FINALLY met that person Mama always talked about? The one (which she [INcorrectly, mind you!] always accused me of being) who will cut off his, or, in your case, her nose to spite her face?!?!
          http://www.southernshade.weebly.com

        • mjz4043

          southernshade mjz4043 Mamas always say that and I am that one and I love doing it if it will get someone riled.  You are a very funny gal, southernshade.

  • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

    Surprised she didn’t go with her tried-and-true, “I’m sorry, I can’t recall.” Of course, if pressed on it now (which I will be shocked to see happen), she will fall back on something similar. “Oh, gee, so many documents crossed my desk, I can’t be expected to remember EVERYthing I sign!”

    • DanaPreston

      Southernshade: She Already used that line in the hearings.

    • The real Smart Guy

      southernshade Too Reaganesque a response ( or do you not remember the Iran Contra hearings bucko?) and the facts is the in coming Ambassador Chris Stevens supported the move due to Republican budget cuts for security as House Republican Jason Chaffetz admitted. So Stevens DID NOT request any such thing. You rally are a mountain out of a molehill crowd. Bush lied us into Iraq, we didn’t have to go in, but Cheney’s cherry picked evidence helped path the path of deception and before everyone starts with the “Even Clinton thought they had WMD nonsense, so effing what? They had nothing to do with 9/11 and if we used that logic WW3 might as well start and we can all die but part of me thinks they’re a lot of you folks who want that so you can think you’re biblical prophecies are being fulfilled, admit it there’s a helluva lot of End od Dayer’s on this site

      • NavyMom

        The real Smart Guy southernshade You are wrong on so many levels.  Do you think that you can throw out a bunch of so called “facts” in your long winded rant, and think we are too stupid to know the real facts?  I do give you credit for getting in at least ten of the liberal talking points, which every liberal knows by heart and can whip out in place of an articulate, balanced discussion whenever intelligent people question the actions of the current administration.  Current.  The mistakes that led to the  death of four men who in life already gave so very much to the defense of our country and our freedom are not being exaggerated.  Documents exist which show not only the Ambassador requesting additional security, but others in charge of security at the compound and for transportation.  These are facts.  We must find out where the system broke down if we are to ensure that more men and women who are abroad protecting us, do not die unnecessarily. Also, Mr.”The Real Smart Guy”,  The death of a United States of America WAR HERO should never, ever be belittled and used to make a sniveling liberal point!

        • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

          NavyMomThe real Smart Guysouthernshade Yeah, NavyMom, this guy is smart in one sense and one only… he’s a smart a$$. It never ceases to amaze me how many dundering idiots (liberals) there are residing in America! I do give him credit for mocking religion, since the ones he dotes on – elected libs (obamao included) – continue their charade of PRETENDING to be Christians. THAT hypocrisy never seems to bother folks like DUMB guy, though. Here is my take on Benghazi:
          Benghazigate
          © Ben Burton 12-30-2012
          Twas Watergate which proved once more
          The pen is mightier than the Sworn
          With pomp and circumstance imbibed
          The deed did not, they said, but lies
          Though exile begs for sterner stuff
          The cover-up proved quite enough
          And with that vaunted victory
          The fourth estate, filled with esprit
          Entitled now to win them all
          Does cover up their leftist flaws
          Benghazi wrought a flood of lies
          Unworthy of a bloody “Why”
          Four fallen innocents ignored
          Obama’s press an undead ‘corpse’
          Yet, if the shoe had shifted feet
          They’d trample impropriety
          Though cover-up once ruled the day
          With democrats in charge, that changed
          Fox, Limbaugh, Colter stand and fight
          But are decried for being right
          Benghazigate? Don’t hold your breath
          Truth won’t inspire the mainstream press
          And stealing secrets always
          trumps four deaths
          http://www.southernshade.weebly.com

      • RoyKoch

        The real Smart Guy southernshade Hey Smartazz- Move to CUBA, Raul could use a new Minister of Propaganda!

      • mogul264

        The real Smart Guy southernshade You liberals need to get off your high horse! You’ve blamed everything from WWII to the Boston bombings on the Bushes, yet REFUSE to admit any fault, whatsoever! YOUR President Zerobama has run our National Debt higher that ALL the COMBINED Presidents’ actions before him, yet you zoom in on the Bushes? You are a complete and utter fool!
        Small wonder that the Communist Party quit trying to infiltrate our government……they stated that the Democrat platform encompassed EVERY one of their ideas, and were doing a BETTER job of infiltration than they EVER could! And they said that ALL these would be embraced and advocated under the name of Progressivism!
        As to ‘lies’, bud, we only do a POOR imitation of lying, compared to the two-faced crowd YOU are part of! I must admit the Democrats have lying down to a fine-honed science, and I bow to the mealy-mouthed Kings of Doublespeak! One small point, here: what ever happened to your ‘transparent and open government’, or your ‘everything will be done on the internet”? Never have I seen such masterful and wily wriggling and squirming when anyone tries to pin down fault about ANY of your dealings!

  • cowfeeder

    It doesn’t matter who lied–the whole bunch of communists in control knew it was going to happen–just cannot go against those Islamic muslims–they are Obama’s Muslim brothers and the koran says they cannot be hurt!

    • rangers53

      cowfeeder I’m with you and we must remember that the koran also apparently requires them to lie if it serves their agenda. I still can’t believe these Congressional communists can’t do their job and clean houose of this criminal element which daily fouls the halls of Congress.

  • sudsy

    As said, she lied through her teeth just like sc many Dems do and some Republicans too! But Obama is the weakest link! He is the teller of the most whoppers, including worthy ones for treason!

  • PaulBrown1

    We all know she is guilty as sin, so when are they going to arrest her for Murder along with Ovomit the ” Muslim” clown.

  • lilolady

    I believe God has a plan.  And when his wrath is loosed some of us will be clobbered with debris.  Be prepared to survive, to comfort, to provide, to shelter.  When the time comes there will be much to do, so be ready.  Have a plan. ………. ” For I know the plans I have for you” saith the Lord “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.” Jer. 29:11

  • GrizzMann

    So her sworn testimony will get her on perjury?

    • Evermyrtle

      GrizzMann Well, you have to give the anti-GOD credit for one thing, they will stand together, they will back each other up. We cannot say this about many Christians, so many of us think hurting other people’s feelings comes  before the SAVING GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST. We worry about others feelings instead our own stand with GOD. There is another side to this, also, hurting someones feelings could result in a person thinking about what the y are doing and because of the hurt feeling, see the truth of the evil that they are up holding.

      Zechariah 8:16, “These are the things that ye shall do; speak ye every man the truth to his neighbor; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates.”

    • LadyBGood

      GrizzMann No

  • caseyalbert56

    Don’t y’awl get it?   Like Hillary Dillary said, “What difference does it make?”
    The Progressives have a plan, Power and Control.  They are very much like the followers of “The Religion of Peace.”  They lie, cheat, steal to get what they want.  If you believe anything they say, ha, jokes on you, fool.  The only reason we got “Support our troops,” was to get the troops support.
    Like an alcoholic, I suppose we will have to hit bottom, before we take our country back!
    Molon Labe!

    • Evermyrtle

      caseyalbert56 I am not familiar with the “Religion of Peace,” but the word of GOD does give us some information on this subject int he last days. We have waited to long to cry “peace” it is too late for that.

       1 Thes 5:3 For when they shall say, peace and safety; then sudden destruction upon them,as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
       This is prophesied for the last days, which we are living in, today and all around as things grow more evil every day. with new laws protecting the evildoers, we need to watch out.

      • PaulBrown1

        Evermyrtle caseyalbert56 Myrtle you are so right, there are more laws protecting the muslims and islamic pigs in this country, and no one has the brains to see whats really going on. The whole country has got blinder on and really don’t care to remove them.

  • ThomasMcAuliffe

    sadly nothing will be done because of our cowardly trator, communist congress

    • brs

      None this is possible without the full support of the state propaganda machine, others call it main stream media. Of course the media machine breaks doe if the people stop buying it…. the blame unltimately rests with the people.

      • GrizzMann

        brs The Ministry of Truth, will get to the bottom of this.

    • mjnellett

      Thomas, this country’s future is no longer dependent on what our Congress does. It is now up to US, ” We, the People” must now take it upon ourselves to go to Washington D.C. and let those people know that we will no longer accept the status quo as it now stands. Our founding fathers gave us a command that if our government ever became tyrannical, that it is our duty to get rid of this government and put in one that works. In other words, we need to go back to the original intent that our founders had for the federal government, and its standing in the political order of the country. We need to make it known in Washington D.C. that we are taking our country back. Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Hoyer,  McCain, Graham, and the rest of the progressive thugs need to be reminded of where the real power in this country still resides…with the states, and the people. We need to redirect our anger in a positive way, and speak very loudly, and clearly to these “One World Government” advocates. Maybe they need to read the story of the Tower of Babel to find out God’s thoughts on one global government. Keep your head and your faith up Thomas.

    • LadyBGood

      ThomasMcAuliffe You left out “greedy.”  I really think our so called representatives have ONLY one thing in mind….themselves!

  • foxmuldar

    What difference does it make. Their all dead. Hillary had blood on her hands as does Obama.

    • Evermyrtle

      foxmuldar There really is a difference, we need to stop this evil. Leave them in there todo as they please they will continue to produce evil. THE NED TO BE STOPPED.

    • AmazedHuman

      foxmuldar  Here’s why it makes a difference. Watch this if you can –
      http://blustream.sendvideo.net/stw/?p=nyi907f2201klkgtjiyv

    • LadyBGood

      foxmuldar She doesn’t care, she’s proved that.

  • kennowen

    So long as Holder controls the Just Us Department, no one of Mrs. Clinton’s ilk will ever be held to account. My Lib friends are already clamoring for her to become their nominee for 2016. I can only hope she selects Weiner as her running mate (and that we don’t run a Bush).

    • LadyBGood

      kennowen A friend in Houston saw a bumper sticker that said Hillary Clinton & Michelle Obama 2016

      • PatAlexander

        LadyBGood kennowen Can’t wait to see hillary in xl lime green pant suit and mitch bell pulling a cart full of lobster! By golly they will steal each others campaign moneys!

  • RondaMiller

    You are right about fraud and the 109% – it does make me wonder if he actually won – gives me a little hope that maybe Americans really don’t want socialism.  But then you hear some of these people talk who still support him – there are a lot of them.  They can’t give you an intelligent reason why they support him, they just do. That’s what really drives me crazy!!!!  If someone has a different opinion than I do I can respect that, I can’t respect someone blindly following the president or anyone, just because of his skin color or because a union tells them too.  Even more maddening is that there is proof of so much voter fraud – why didn’t congress do something?  This is illegal.

  • GrizzMann

    Ministry of Truth, will get to the bottom of this.

  • vinagaroon

    That’s what happenes when you have gay communists running government

  • evans111

    Will someone please tell me if Ms. Clinton’s signature has been authenticated, or if this entire thread is just a kangaroo court comprised of an angry mob that wants to string her up by her boobs, simply because they do not like her?
    We have one fact that is evident, you all very seriously dislike Hillary. As regards her 2016 campaign slogan “Are You Ready For Hillary,” I don’t think any of you will be ready for her, or every will be ready for her. I’m trying to stand back and wait for evidence, not content to be made a fool of before God with some forgery of a document.
    Trying and convicting this gal in the court of public opinion is just like a mob scene right out of Biblical times, or a lynch mob during the Civil War, with a bunch of people getting all riled up, all righteously indignant and condemnatory, armchair critics without a real cause, without a shred of evidence (in this case, evidence the document is authentic and not a forgery to frame her sorry ass).

    • Evermyrtle

      evans111 String her up by her WHAT?? Maybe by her lying tongue!!!

    • tdc777

      Something you should think about ANS 111:
      If someone “forged” your signature to a document, would you be sitting in silence? Or would.you be screaming your head off telling the world that someone is trying to set you up? Have you even heard one peep out of Hilary? I rest my case.

    • brs

      The heck with the signature as proof if you want to throw it out. Regardless of the run up their boss’ let them down, then lied about to not only cover their own, but to actually deflect blame from the extremist attackers. All with the help on MSM who continue to burry it. This makes Watergate look like a story in the Lifestyles section…. ask Bob Woodward, who thw WH also threatened.

    • LadyBGood

      evans111 This “gal” was the Secretary of State…The Secretary of State is the chief advisor to the President of the United States on foreign matters both political and military. While the Secretary of State has no military authority, he or she is often uniquely able to gauge the response of a given nation to a particular military act.
      The Secretary of State is responsible for the administration and management of foreign embassies and consulate offices. Foreign trade missions and even some intelligence assets report directly to the Secretary of State, and the consular officers are all sworn to obey the directives set forth by the President of the United States, sworn through the Secretary of State.
      The Secretary of State also consults on economic issues involving foreign nations and is responsible for advising the President on which courses of action will best serve the United States in the foreign arena. The person holding the office of the Secretary of State is responsible for the negotiation of new treaties as well.

      In the event the President of the United States is unable to serve his full term, the line of succession is activated. If the Vice President, Speaker of the House and President Pro Tempore of the Senate are not able to serve, the Secretary of State becomes the President of the United States and serves out the remainder of the term.
      Apparently she couldn’t do the job…so why was she there?  The only thing she did was help O to cover up this tragedy!  This entire administration, especially O, cannot accept responsibility and are quick to pass the buck and BLAME the Republicans for any of their (the democrats) shortcomings!   
      Let’s not forget that Hillary’s  deputy chief of staff Huma Abedin, a Muslim-American who is widely respected among members of both parties, for possible ties to the Islamic extremist group.  
      Just with that alone, one can suspect Hillary of treason!

    • ingersoncj

      evans111
      This might give you the answer! However, you must understand the whole platform of the current administration is to deny anything and everything (Chicago Politics and or Chinese) and they will just continue to do so – it is not any different from the thousands and hundreds of thousands of convicted criminals who deny anything and everything – pleading not innocent even though they have been caught with the knife/gun in their hand and blood all over them. Time that goes by causes lapse of memories and especially where the whole trick of the defense attorney isn’t to deny anything just to confuse everything. MSM then backs up their favorites and destroys their enemies. My guess is not one Democrat or MSM liberal even gave a thought to voter fraud! And certainly the lack of a Birth Cert. a false SS card – and a grandmother’s memory is not worthy of anyone’s further attention.
      It is not my belief that anyone is trying to convict or lynch Ms. Clinton (you cannot use Mrs.) just wondering how many free passes she’ll be given. Some who are posting are long-time voters – conservatives – veterans (like me) and college professors – and hard working American’s who if any of the stuff she and others get away with were to be us we’d be locked up and the key thrown away.
      Let me put it another way – I had a friend who was bitten by a dog – however, the owner of the dog said he didn’t own a dog – the apartment complex said no dogs were allowed in the apartments – so the police were prepared to arrest my friend for a false report. A week later the dog came an attacked him again – this time he shot the dog! The owner of the dog called the police to report him – the apartment complex was going to evict him for shooting the dog – and the police were going to arrest him for shooting the dog. He explained to all involved – this is the same dog that everyone denied one week earlier – so it must be an invisible dog – and therefore everyone was making up that he had shot their dog – for the owner owned no dog – the apartment complex allowed no dogs and the police therefore had no reason to arrest him!
      Any way here’s the answer to your inquiry – The Washington Times: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/24/white-house-clintons-signature-benghazi-cable-stan/
      “White House press secretary Jay Carney said Mrs. Clinton’s signature on the cable was standard for all diplomatic cables and was a practice continued from prior administrations.
      He accused the Republicans of trying to “stoke a false controversy.”
      Mrs. Clinton resigned as secretary of state this year, but political analysts say she could make another run for the White House in 2016. If she does, questions about her role in Benghazi are sure to dog her.”
      Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/24/white-house-clintons-signature-benghazi-cable-stan/#ixzz2RhjQKrrC
      Follow us: http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=ctd-fI3Dar4z1uacwqm_6r&u=washtimes
      My concern is that our nation is all about protecting the criminal and condemning those who are obeying the laws of the land. Sodom and that other city – or Pompeii will testify of what happens when the wicked take over and those who’ve done their homework are ignored. I do historical research – write daily – have taught ethics and history – and business (on the college level) – and have many students who only wanted a grade without the ordeal of actually having to learn anything. I was in Harlem with Martin Luther King (we spent 9 hours discussing man’s right to be a human being – based off an essay I had written at age 17) – I was in the Far East and Africa – so as I defend the other posters – remember it was the ministers/preachers of fire and brimstone who did the witch hunts – raped and killed the early members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (drove them from the United States with an extermination order) – butchered the American Indian – and otherwise helped to implement their beliefs on others in this nation. If one is going to use the Bible to thump upon they better have read it – and this means to Old Testament (remembering some 3400 books of the Bible are missing). 
      This is long and maybe won’t be left posted – however, you should do your own homework – we each should do our own homework – and just because we don’t post our references it doesn’t mean that they are not there. chuck

      • evans111

        ingersoncj evans111Chuck, I see where you’re coming from, and thank you for the considerate and
        intelligent comment. If you were to depart from this forum, the average IQ would
        certainly drop precipitously.
        I’ve heart some liken America to Pompeii, and Vesuvius to a scriptural
        volcano about to breath fire on it. However, don’t you think we need to weigh
        our reservations about Hillary with her extensive experience in diplomacy and
        working with Congress?
        What is she supposed to do, admit her mistake and completely destroy our
        diplomatic ties with the Middle East? Admitting her error would give countries
        like Pakistan proof they cannot work with America, and give them a license to
        develop an out of control nuclear program that could end in global
        thermonuclear holocaust, causing a mass extinction of the human species (which,
        contrary to popular belief, is not the only form of intelligent life, but indeed
        the most destructive to-date).
        The wicked end of an ungodly means, may buy time for global peace. Those who
        believe in God may want to consider that our species could
        not have survived the nuclear age without divine intervention. Do you think God
        is going to let Hillary undo all His plans, or is he rather going to use her
        like a puppet on a string in this global game of political chess, with
        “checkmate” against the devil being world peace?
        Hillary is a proverbial queen on the chess table, and she will depart the
        table when her usefulness is all used up. Perhaps moving that queen into the
        Oval Office will help “checkmate” the game?

        • LarryChambers

          First of all man will not destroy the world. And it was her responsibility to tell the AMERICAN PUBLIC THE TRUTH. That’s what she was paid to do. That’s what’s wrong with our political system; it is overloaded with lies and cover ups. Anyway there is nothing she can do to undo God’s plans. Regardless of what man does God’s plans will always succeed. Whatever God does it is done in righteousness and according to His will, His purpose and His plan. It’s never about us; it’s about glorifying the Lord Jesus Christ.

        • ingersoncj

          evans111
          ingersoncj
           evans111 ingersoncj  Hi – thank you for your comments – first and foremost Hillary has few if any International understandings – however, her husband Slick has an abundance and this is what she and others have replied upon. Whereas our current WH occupant thinks he is intelligent - President Clinton was extremely smart and this is why he did not fight the Republicans and/or Constitution but used both to further his agenda in an agreeable manner that was acceptable. Therefore he used those like Gore and others to try to slam the ball instead of himself.
          Lying is acceptable in many nations and cultures in the world and has become foot loose in the United States in the last 100+ years – but actually starting with the election of 1804 and then being cemented with the Jacksonian Era.
          Heavenly Father when he sent us to this earth he gave us the freedom of choice – to choose right or to choose wrong! As long as the world continues without the Second Coming this will never be taken away – which accounts for the Scripture of the two edged sword – and the Savior saying he did not come to earth to bring peace.
          First – what is she supposed to do – that which she swore an oath to do! Which it appears that she has not. She has neither defended the Constitution or has she fulfilled her role as Sec State honorably. She as her husband before her and many of this current administration has been found being untruthful under oath. Were her answers rhetorical or outright lies?
          As for the righteous and unrighteous among us – we’ve to understand where we stand and not them – as they’ll be accountable as will we for what we know and what we should know – for what we’ve done or should have done. There is no where in the original Ten Commandments which condone lying – cheating – stealing and multiple other items which many in our nation could not account to be in obedience with fully – maybe the most absent would be keeping the Sabbath Day Holy – whichever day of the week one chooses to call such. Certainly many profane the name of Lord daily – if not hourly. Further – how many really understand to love all – hating none – not approving of the sin (of the sinner) but still enjoining them to repent.  All is a horrible contractual word – it omits nothing and includes everything. The Egyptians had this saying – “Everything there is I see and everything that I cannot see” which W. Shakespeare used in Hamlet. Contractually all is completely inclusive!
          Heavenly Father and His Son understand and know what is going on – but unlike the adversary they will not intervene – however, they’ve made covenants which they will not break either. We’ve been told in Prophecy that the Constitution will stand as long as their are righteous men/women to be found (unlike Sodom).
          Whereas we in the US continue to embrace chess as your comment indicates – the rest of the world no longer does – the new game and the one which China plays is ‘Go’ – there is no checkmate – the King and all others will or do die – for it is based on total conquest and the elimination of the other side or of all opponents.
          Yes she might gain the Oval Office – as the voter fraud (as mentioned in other posts) is rampant and only the leader of the Democratic Party will be elected – with the 100% vote of the 109% voter turnout in the large urban areas of our nation. We must hope if this happens that Slick will keep her in line with the Constitution (which would be my guess he would).
          Much will happen between then and now – first – we’ve a current administration which is seeking to enact ‘Martial Law” – in an essay I’ve written on another site I’ve entitled this,  a “Chaotic Totalitarian Dictatorship”  c

        • mogul264

          evans111 ingersoncj Excuse me, WHAT real diplomatic ties do we actually HAVE in the Middle East? The ones where we PAY millions in bulk cash annually to such as Karzai in Afghanistan, or to Pakistan, Egypt,  or other countries which ACCEPT our money, and try to kick us in the teeth every chance they get? The ONLY reason she won’t admit any error on her part is that it would crater any chance of her candidacy for Pres! This is what she’s wanted since Slick Willie got elected, and when she couldn’t push her Health program effectively!
          She may well be a ‘queen’, but more an evil ‘queen bee’ with similar punishment, if you cross her! Some of this showed in her questioning, when she snapped, “What difference would it have made?” to her quizzers!

        • LadyBGood

          mogul264 evans111 ingersoncj   Can you imagine having to be around her?  I can’t.  She’s driven and she’s just nasty!  I think with her in the “driver’s seat” she’d make obama look like a Patriot!

        • ingersoncj

          mogul264 evans111 ingersoncj America has a credibility profile which is causing fits of laughter around the world – we’ve no foreign policy and since the Reagan administration there has been no one to put one in place!
          We’ve to appreciate that with the mess we’re in we’ve become a 3rd world nation – and when the $ is removed as the world currency most likely the US will be bankrupt and China will not allow for an extension of lien. Much like what France did to Germany in 1933! (Note: this means a nation cannot pay the interest on their loans.) 
          One might check the latest from the women in Congress from CA – the climate change is causing women to become more sexually addicted to fend off their insecurities for food and protection. – of course we realize these same people vote and procreate!
          The insanity in our world today is becoming what was foretold by almost all of the Old Testament Prophets – and was part and parcel of the history of the various nations which in the name of their god/gods have murdered, raped and maimed throughout history.
          Without any credibility (which is where we are at) the most we can do is find ourselves doing what we know to be in obedience within our individual belief systems. First and foremost not to be condemning others because of their belief or lack of belief systems but condemning the acts of irrational persons trying to run/ruin our lives.
          Hillary is first and foremost a leader of those who seek to destroy the US – interestingly I don’t believe her husband is as he understands there is nothing to replace it of any value or worth. Those who treat her and our current administration as their gods – have what they deserve – and sadly so do we on the surface.
          When the Massachusetts
          Bay Colony was conducting their daily persecutions they had what they called a ‘civil man/woman’ – which was described as one who was: just; honest; credible; virtuous; and of good reputation in all things! However, he/she were still going to hell because they did not conform to their religious beliefs. We’ve those today as well! Would certainly not want them as my parents for how they condemn Heavenly Father as a parent!
          Today things are much the same – contention – confusion – back biting – swearing – and all of the other vices of which evil delights upon – and those who are without beliefs teach as their belief system as Hillary so well put it; “What difference would it have made?” When one believes in nothing – there is nothing – i.e. Creatio Ex Nihilo – chuck

        • texasjo

          ingersoncj evans111 Excellent, I wish you could print this in the NY Times, wouldn’t that be something?  We really and truly do NOT have freedom of speech anymore.  It is squelched by movie star type of propaganda.

        • texasjo

          ingersoncj mogul264 evans111 This is good.  Who is Chuck and where are you?  No bio.  I like what you wrote.

        • ingersoncj

          texasjo ingersoncj mogul264 evans111 Chuck is in SE GA – if you do a search under oldrustyknight and daily poems – have been writing since age 11 or so back in 1955. I don’t believe we can post emails – so if you go to the site and write me – tell me where we met – I’ve multiple heart attacks (MI’s) and have been dead a couple of times so need reminders for the day to day things. chuck

        • LarryChambers

          Voter turnout won’t matter just as it didn’t in the last election. Whoever winds up in the Oaval Office will be placed there before the first vote is cast. The act of voting is just the final blow of the misery and suffering by these people who care nothing about the way you or I feel or think. We love our nation but the people we hired have  different views for our future ,who are slowly and methodically thinning us out for their replacement agenda. If Slick is keeping her in line he’s doing a poor job. They maybe husband and wife but they also have opposing personalities, Hilary and top of the world power,
          I shudder to even stretch my imagination that far. I love your insight.

        • ingersoncj

          LarryChambers You are spot on – it hasn’t mattered for over 134 years – the party caucus determines who will be on the ballot – everything including Primaries are just window wash for the voters but mostly for MSM to pull in the big bucks and look like policy makers. Even Reagan had to cut a deal (i.e. Bush on his ticket) – and although Bush 2 wasn’t in the plans the MSM destroyed him completely – and thus destroyed the hopes of America for ever having a recovery.
          Where America is today is similar to many of the other dictatorships around the world – except we spend billions of dollars on Madison Ave. to appear otherwise.
          John R. Tunnis summed up both America and the American Citizen in the 1930′s and 1940′s – worshipping false gods in the form of athletes, follywood actors, and the other riff-raft of our society without morals, values and or common sense!

        • LarryChambers

          That’s why I kept hammering for the blaming of voters to be stopped. I did my own percentage counts on foodstamp recipients, Blacks and the remainder of Americans. I should have done one on Latinos as well but at the time they hadn’t come into question. I found that the numders given by the media didn’t make sense. But the race card had already been introduced, need I say more? The fact that the election was rigged, your point of America becoming like dictatorships makes all the sense in the world. Your last line reminds me of 1John 5: 21.

        • Troubleshooter

          ingersoncj mogul264 evans111 @ingersoncj; Bill Clinton is a youthful product of the Hot Springs Mob.  Hot Springs is a Gambling Center in the South built around Horse Racing.  Corruption of the vilest kind has had its seat there since early in the 20th Century if not longer.  Bill Clinton, fatherless  at an early age was groomed by predators to enter politics and look out for the interests of his “benefactors”.  He was “placed” strategically, and as a, harrumph, er, uh, “Rhodes Scholar”, he joined the International Political Circus in London, where he met HillaZilla, a similar product.  Don’t kid yourself about his agenda or complete lack of social conscience.  He is, like his hyena of a wife, a monster.

        • Troubleshooter

          ingersoncj mogul264 evans111 To avoid confusion about my previous comment, I spent a significant amount of time in the area, and Billy was from Conway, which is just a nice ride from Hot Springs, and a rock’s throw from the Capitol in Little Rock.

        • ingersoncj

          Troubleshooter ingersoncj mogul264 evans111 You’re correct – and I’ve tabled most of the information on him – they are all puppets – with a couple rare exceptions – and BO’s little black book of Chicago Politics is just too fresh in the senses to remember Mr. Clinton. I do know this though with or without the Rhodes back in the 90′s he was very smart at making things work even though he hated doing so – and destroying the military was #1 on his list – which is the continuing line of both the UN and his backers they want the US destroyed! Unfortunately they think once they do China will play ball with them – not a chance. Thank you for reminding me – getting older than I thought – chuck

        • ingersoncj

          Troubleshooter ingersoncj mogul264 evans111 No confusion and thank you – insider information goes a long way – c

        • evans111

          Not trying to defend someone you consider an evil ‘queen bee’ but please, she is a pragmatist in asking that question. Who here could not agree is would have made no difference. She just wants to get the job don’t expediently (as she did in orchestrating, behind the scenes, Osama bin Laden’s ghosting by SEALs).

        • evans111

          She just wants to get the job done expediently, I meant.

        • evans111

          Although we may agree on some salient points you brought out, it troubles me anyone would think Bill and Hillary are sociopathic liars with an agenda. Bill fixed the national deficit during his presidency, and Hillary, well, it was on her watch that our brave SEALs ghosted Osama bin Laden. Nobody’s perfect, which the Bible makes us well aware.

  • ingersoncj

    The government has the labor force – conservative voters in a catch 22 – (included retirees/veterans) – if we revolt they cut off our benefits – if we do nothing they continue unleashed to do what they want as they’ve been doing – lying, cheating, killing (murder), passing socialistic laws, entitling illegals, and whatever else they feel ‘good’ about doing. How many have all their credit cards at zero – mortgages, cars, and any other items paid off? And they always have the ‘red card’ of rioting and chaos to inflict martial law! When a nation does not care about its legal citizens who are footing the bill there is nothing we can do against them. To bring down the government would open Pandora’s box around the world – unless it can be done extremely quickly and keeping the military doing their duty to protect and defend the Constitution!  Not a very bright future but for centuries this has been foretold – actually four to five thousand years if one were to do their homework. It’ll get worse – it would be a good time to decide who’s side one is on – Heavenly Father’s (regardless of your religious belief) or not!  c

    • brs

      Revolt, benefits are going to be reduced or crash regardless. You’re receiving more than you paid in on the backs of your children. Its the best for the country and your children… do I need to go on?

      • ingersoncj

        brs smile – yup – paid in my whole life and now an older person – being told I’ve to be grateful to give up my freedoms and rights to worship – speak or otherwise become a non-violent dummy. I’m sure that I’m on many of their lists as I write daily – essays/prose/poems which address the governments greed for power without accountability! But what do I know – c

  • edgineer

    A bit extreme. Next year there is an election. If we, the people want it, there can be new candidates sympathetic to the ideals of the American people. We voted this government into office. And anyone who did not vote has no voice in the public sphere. If Americans grow up they can have the government they want.

    • keekeemarie

      edgineer In theory your right! In reality, you are looking at some of the biggest crooks in history. Obama  knew he would have a second term. We will never be able to prove it but the fraud perpetrated  against us is far greater than we  will ever know. I am not saying stay home, don”t vote. I am saying it is going to take more than voting. Evil  has overwhelmed this country and we are all to blame.  Sweetheart, you haven’t seen EXTREME, yet!

      • edgineer

        keekeemarie edgineer Well I have seen massive voter fraud. In 2000 I lived in Milwaukee. ACORN was based 90 miles away in Chicago. In the 2000 election ACORN, which was based in Chicago,  used Wisconsin to train personnel and and develop techniques for stealing elections. From filling out ballots from registration lists at the polling stations to people voting multiple times with false IDs, the cheating by the Demo0crats was massive. And it WILL occur next year for certain.

        • The real Smart Guy

          edgineer keekeemarie  Acorn was only a registration effort and the AG’s in most states quickly find the duplicates, reject the them that called Registration fraud but virtually EVERY AG in the country (including republican AG’s says actual voter fraud is extremely low) so how do so few people “Steal” an election? Since DIEBOLD a decidedly conservative corporation supplies the machines they should be cheating for conservative candidates. Please don’t try the Allen West nonsense either, it’s not what happened and here’s the EXACT truth of the matter as reported by politifact but of course rather than accept the truth you’ll claim tarnished messenger just like all you folks do when anything that’s the TRUTH but doesn’t fit your narrow little minds you simply reject truth so you can continue your bitter little fit. Shows both a lack of emotional maturity and a lack of the ability to think in a critical manner and change your perceptions. It’s like you welded these thought to your mind and cannot accept being wrong. What a shame you all just can’t grow up and act like an educated, thinking human being.
          http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/nov/20/facebook-posts/viral-post-claims-precinct-allen-west-race-had-900/

        • KennadeNade

          The real Smart Guyedgineerkeekeemarie- you forgot to mention this story – how convenient – http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/jury-fraud-put-obama-on-08-ballot/  this is just the tip of the iceberg. Voter fraud? Why do you think the dems do not want Photo ID’s at the polling places? Because their racists? No, we want to STOP voter FRAUD. So to speak the TRUTH you must include ALL mentions of fraud and or possible voter fraud not just the ONE that serves your purpose.

        • edgineer

          The real Smart Guy edgineer keekeemarie Nice try Butt Weasel. But more people are becoming aware of The Democrats cheating every day. But keep talking, we want to know who you are.

        • mogul264

          The real Smart Guy edgineer keekeemarie Duplicate votes are very hard to detect when you must do each and every entry personally! Your eyes cross and you get sleepy! AND, many were from ACTUAL voters, just ones in old-age homes and mental institutions who had no real idea whom they were voting for, possibly not even WHAT, but for the “helpful” suggestions of the Acorn workers! Some said THEIR ballots had been PRE-marked BEFORE they saw them! 
          As to the machines, well, machines only do what they are programmed. So, despite the good name of Diebold, conservative or not, these machines were PROGRAMMED to give FALSE readouts despite the input! This was VERIFIED! In other precincts, NO Republican observer was allowed to stay in the voting area! 
          There is NO earthly way to explain otherwise how MANY districts in Pennsylvania and other areas managed to have NOT ONE vote for Republicans! Had this happened and a Republican obtained ALL the votes from any SINGLE district, much less so many, our “BALANCED AND FAIR” media (” ” stands for EXTREMELY sarcastic emphasis, BTW!) would be screaming BLOODY MURDER loud and long about the “huge number of stolen” votes!
          The rest of your diatribe does not bear responding.

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy edgineer keekeemarie @The real Smart Guy: I needed a good laugh today!  Real Smart?  Who told you that?  A Poll taken among MORONS?  No, I’m pretty sure it was the Admenstruation that you SHILL for.  We spot ‘em when they show up.  We know what you are.  The Joke is Actually on YOU.  ACORN, as a registration effort as you call it, sued the Financial System, and their Attorney in the Lawsuit, one Barak Obama, with the backing of the Communist Party, engineered the collapse of the U.S. Economy by “organizing” illegal loans to non-citizens and unqualified borrowers so they could purchase houses that were appraised at greatly inflated values, with full knowledge that the loans would be defaulted on and it would cause the ensuing chaos.  It has been done in other countries which are now under the control of the Globalists and the Fed, the tool of the Globalists.  Of course, you already know that, since you work for them.  Enjoy your smugness while you can a*s*s*h*o*l*e;   It’s all over with, you just don’t know it yet.  Those responsible, and those involved will not like the way it works out for them.  You can run, but you cannot hide from the Citizens of The United States Of America.

    • mogul264

      edgineer Trouble is, there is a large group of citizens who WANT the “free” government cheese’, phones, welfare, housing, etc, and are willing to elect the ones who keep providing it! THESE are the ones who elected, and RE-elected Zerobama, and his ilk! 
      They aren’t smart enough to realize there ‘ain’t no such thing as FREE’! Accepting such, over and over, and they become DEPENDENT on it, JUST THE SAME AS DRUGS! This is the ‘welfare trap’ many are now in! There have been GENERATIONS raised on WELFARE, now, unfortunately, and there will be MORE if we do not END the cycle of dependency! 
      This means we MUST STOP the government giveaway, and force people to ‘get clean’! It is almost CERTAIN they will NOT do it on their own! But, until we can convince them this government loot is NOT helping, it will be difficult! They, like drug users, do NOT want it to stop! They don’t, or WON’T, realize the government has NOTHING, and anything it GIVES to them, COMES from someone else! This ‘someone else’ is the U.S. taxpayer, the workers who PRODUCE~!

    • James Star

      edgineer What do we do about the invalid voting going on like the 2012 election?

      • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/end.htm DonJ

        James Star edgineer Paper trail voting, they don’t like you even talking about it. The secret s… has hit the fan.

      • edgineer

        James Star edgineer email a complaint to your state senator and congressman. Discuss it with friends and family.

        • PaulBrown1

          edgineer James Star Can’t they are just as corrupt and crooked as this Admin. and thats the God’s honest truth.

        • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/end.htm DonJ

          PaulBrown1 edgineer James Star Ron Paul won Maui’s caucus, the Maui News didn’t even mention his name and instead had a picture of Romney on the front page. Tell me about corrupt.

        • GrizzMann

          edgineer James Star , You forgot, write on a piece of paper and send it to The Ministry Of Truth.

    • The real Smart Guy

      edgineer  Hold it John McQuire says 732% of Americans support what Hillary Clinton is doing, so how are 27%  supposed to change what most Americans seem to agree with?

      • PaulBrown1

        The real Smart Guy edgineer Who told you that crap?    Some demoncrap maybe.

  • 1Josie

    Clinton has always been a Liar!  She proved that during many investigations during her husband’s term.  I can’t figure out how anyone would even consider her for any office.  She’s an old haggard, screech-voiced Liar.  What a pathetic Government we have at this point.  The bottom of the barrel with the bottom-feeders running this Country.

    • LadyBGood

      1Josie Absolutely

    • JohnMaguire

      The latest ‘poll’ on Hillary is that she has a 73% approval rating…..I’m scared that she WILL run for Prez and the Progressives and moron voters who think it would be ‘cool’ to have a woman, ANY WOMAN, for president will put here back in the White House. Personally, I think it’s entirely possible unless America finally wakes up.

      • texasjo

        JohnMaguire I’m very, very afraid, also, John!  That she may run.  However, she looked terrible, wraped in a big tent thing at Bush’s Library and Museum opening!  Maybe she’s worried the truth will come out.  If I were her, I would NOT want to inherit this mess.  But, they have covered up so much I suppose they think anything possible.  So many of my “facebook” friends, and people I know are FOR her, thinks she is a wonderful boone for women…they simply do NOT look at the records.  I am dismayed how ignorant some smart people are…hypnotized!

      • 1Josie

        JohnMaguire 
        Before last November I would have said….fat chance!  But now, the thought of it is chilling.  In my mind it would be the “okay” to continue on the path of Communism.  Remember SHE was the first person we heard say the phrase “re-distribution” and her little Health Care Plan was another Socialist idea.  She’s so da** gross.  Ugh….the thought of it….horrible!  I just don’t know.  We have to think positive, and not play into the propaganda presented to us in the Media.  Maybe the Witch wouldn’t even run, Billy Boy likes New York and being able to have his freedom from the watchful eyes of the public.

      • The real Smart Guy

        JohnMaguire  If she has a 73% approval doesn’t that mean a lot of republican citizens support her as well. Also if 73% support her that makes the people on these boards the minority in America. How’s that supposed to work when the folks on these boards are supposed to represent what real American’s think and want. I don’t quite understand how that is? What do you think?

        • Evermyrtle

          The real Smart Guy JohnMaguire That count has to be wrong because no Conservative would ever approve oh Hilliary’s shenanigans. We are more than 27% Conservative. Of course, most Conservatives no longer consider ourselves Republicans.

        • The real Smart Guy

          Evermyrtle   See denial of reality, wake up your fellow Americans view you all as cranks and crazies, you folks are little better than Flat earthers, deniers of truth and evidence, your “Faith” blinds you to reality in such a way as to prove you’re paranoid deluded and will NEVER change America into the Theocracy you want it to be. It’s designed to withstand the assault of your insanity and still thrive, you’re nothing more than a hiccup in the passage of time The John Birch Society of our times and destined for a similar rejection but thinking, Patriotic Americans who understand that while you claim to be “Constitutionalists” you’d shred the document in a heartbeat and have already shown a willingness to do so. You’d deny every Amendment but the second, you think free Speech only belongs to you and anyone with an opposing view is traitorous and should be killed or imprisoned, you’re an shame to the Nation but just as importantly to your ideals

      • GrizzMann

        JohnMaguire , The electorate gets the government it deserves.

        • 1Josie

          GrizzMann JohnMaguire  I worked on the Election when President Bush was re-elected.  I got so disgusted I quit.  On the night ballots were counted, they allowed hundreds of people to “register” without any identification at all.  The Elections Office was packed, with a line around the block.  Even though closing was at 8:00 at night, they allowed all these “last minute” voters, many were Latino and a lot of Asians.  Ballots were sent out a month in advance, yet these voters waited until the last possible moment to vote.  I live a a very liberal State, kooks and nuts running the show here.

        • GrizzMann

          No wonder those rascally Republicans are so opposed to Photo ID to vote. Hold on there, The Democrats are opposed to voter ID. How about purple ink on ones thumb, after voting?

      • evans111

        Come on, Margaret Thatcher turned out to be a very good lady Prime Minister, so why would Hillary deliver anything less than Margaret?

  • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/end.htm DonJ

    Give me a break.. We have no standards? Elections get stolen from us and we have no standards? It seems to me the ones you (last Resistance) want to lead are in office.

  • TeaParty Patriot

    .
    GEE what an astonishing revelation!  She is a corruptocrat did you really expedt her to own up to her actions?.
    Did you just crawl out of the cabbage patch?
    .

  • marmo

    2014 here we come…big changes on the horizon.. anti gunners made a lot of people mad, including democrat voters.

  • ArtSears

    So what? No one is doing anything about any of the politicians.

  • Troubleshooter

    Bye, Bitch.

  • jeandon

    People have gone to jail for lying to congress, which is a felony.  When’s the trial date?

    • LadyBGood

      jeandon Yeah right….they’d all should end up in GITMO with their buddies!  With Sheriff  Arpaio running the place!

    • GrizzMann

      jeandon , right after the FAST AND FURIOUS trials.

  • Johnnysw

    As long as the citizens don’t complain to their elected officials nothing will be done. Every citizen should contact their elected officials an put pressure on them to take action. Other than that our politicians are to afraid to do anything.

    • James Star

      Johnnysw Even with our constant complaints, the politicians will do nothing! Do you really think some hero is going to go arrest and punish these people we constantly post about? Not very likely! Personally I do not know what the answer is, as even revolution will end up with most of us being locked up or killed. Im open to anybody with a viable answer. Are there any??

  • http://[email protected] docboyer

    Bengashi event was supposed to be a sham kidnapping planned by Obama. Rhe Blind sheik was our prisoner. The plan was that just before the 2012 Obama would trade the sheik for the Abassador and look like a hero. But when the Seales showed up the “kidnappers thought Obama had double crossed them and all hell broke loose. The Ambassador was killed along with 3 other Americans. Poor Obama gained nothing and Hillary “fell on the sword” for him and Kerry replaced her as Sectarary of State. She was of no more use to Obama.

    • James Star

      docboyer well how about who they sent there as ambassador, supposedly he was gay. I had read that the Muslims do not condone homosexuals. Unless wrongly thought that the Gay community would rejoice about him saving one of their own. What a tangled web we weave, when we first try to deceive! Oh well, Im probably wrong, but sure seemed odd to me.

    • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

      docboyer This SOUNDS believable, but I NEVER spread something unless I have very solid evidence. Where did you pick this up, please?

      • LadyBGood

        southernshade docboyer who really knows?  Not the American people.  But I have this and The Blaze talked about it too…..
        http://www.examiner.com/article/some-sources-suggest-the-benghazi-attack-was-a-bungled-abduction-attempt

        • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

          LadyBGood southernshade docboyer My biggest problem is the silence since. This was written almost half a year ago. Why didn’t they keep digging, keep reporting? And, please don’t say they were cowed into silence. If that be true, we are in bigger do-do than we’ll ever be able to survive. I don’t think Lou Dobbs would turn his back on it if it’s solid. Maybe he hasn’t, though. I never see his show and rarely have time for others due to my downturn in business these last 4&1/2 years.

  • lizziemo1

    She looked like a spoiled child getting caught in a lie and saying what does it matter anyways when Johnny did the same thing years ago………
    Not admitting the truth instead of just saying I made a mistake or mis-judgment, is a miscarriage of justice

    • GrizzMann

      lizziemo1, she read Bart’s lines well, I didn’t do it. Nobody saw me do it, you can’t prove anything.

  • PaulBrown1

    We all know she is a liar and a murderer, so what in God’s good name are we going to do about bringing this liar down and arrest her and stop her and Ovomit in their tracks. If we take her down, she will throw Ovomit under his own bus just to save her own  filthy butt.

  • DarleneThecolaratlady

    What difference does it make? Lady ( and i use the term loosely) YOUR own  knowledge of the situation, inaction GOT AMERICANS KILLED YOU BLITHERING FIDIOT! Her, Obozo ad the rest of the ILK need to be shackled,headed to fed prison to live out the remaiNder of their LYING , traitorous days. Had that have been any of us reg ppl, we would have been arrested ON THE SPOT for lying

  • KennethBowman

    Communists HATE America and are fully capable of doing whatever they feel necessary to defeat FREEDOM. LIEberals are communists as anybody with a brain knows. They attack and denigrate America all day long. They are the blame America first mob.  Liberals are called VILE by GOD. Isaiah 32 of the authorized King James version of the Holy Bible.

    • PaulBrown1

      KennethBowman Someone once said that the definition of a demoncrap is STUPID, they first have to be stupid to become one, and they think we are stupid and we need them to tell us what we need and what we should do and how we should think. I didn’t need someone to do that for the last 62 years and I sure don’t need it now. I may be a senior, but firts and foremost, I’m not stupid and don’t need someone to wipe my butt.

    • evans111

      My King James Version from the 1600′s (not some militant’s revised version) doesn’t say ” Liberals are called VILE by GOD.” What year did the King James Version get updated with that statement?

  • JohnMaguire

    The fact of the matter is, in my opinion, that a great many people in America operate as though our political system is just like Entertainment Tonight, or The View, or The Batchelor…”Who’s the coolest person to vote for” or who’s the most attractive, (That certainly leaves Hillary out on this point), or who is the next Minority who is entitled to hold the highest position in the land. These same people believe that nothing will ever change what happens  in their lives and that the politics of America is nothing more than an ‘action game’ to be played by the senior citizens of America who have nothing better to do with their time.  Remember that the ‘Progressives’, (Communists) have had over 50 years to dumb down the educational system of America such that todays young  ‘adults’ will buy anything with no bother to check the truthfulness or, worse yet, the CONSEQUENCES of what or who they vote into office. The people who REALLY care about Americas future as the leader of the free world, are apparently now in the minority.

    • texasjo

      JohnMaguire True again!  I was so “wanting to help the world” when I was in college.  I told my mom I might be a social worker.  She said “NO!”  You are too kind hearted, they will break your heart.  I found out from a friend who fixed up building/apts. for “unfortunates,” and they messed it up, took stuff out and sold it, and it was horrible!  Now, I know this doesn’t happen all the time.  I was a Democrat, and now a Republican because ABBO!  There’s no way everyone should pay for abortion.  Do you know Obama had a prayer for the Planned Parenthood meeting!  Ridiculous.  And, ALL the college professors love liberal ways, teach them that, and the little kids are ruined for life.  Why, why, why do they fall for it?  They will not get jobs, maybe that will help.  I don’t think a college graduate wants to go on food stampe.

      • The real Smart Guy

        texasjo JohnMaguire So College age young adults are little children who can be manipulated so easily that after all their family has taught them they so easily reject at the hands of a few individuals. Sounds to me like maybe they see how utterly wrong their uneducated bigoted parents were and rejected them not American ideals that have stood the test of time. Just for the record Conservatives are well represented on our campuses they just end up teaching things Like economics, business management, engineering etc because that’s what THEY’RE drawn to and liberals are likely to be found in the arts, philosophy etc because that’s what they’re drawn to but to say colleges are A. All Liberal and B. there are no conservatives shows you probably never attended one, well maybe Oral Roberts where they teach the tripe you folks seem to gravitate to

        • mogul264

          The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire I’ve found, in my several years of life, that college students learn what we call ‘book knowledge’! This is just an aggregation of data, with NO life experiences to temper this, to know which set of data is truly helpful, and which is just more chaff! You can ask a college student a question on nearly ANY subject you can think of, and he probably would have the ‘book’ answer for you! The knowledge of unintended consequences, however, they do NOT!
          As an example, in Africa, years ago, native villages were, at one time, overrun by too many elephants, trampling and eating crops, damaging structures, etc! To control the excess population, contraceptives were given to the female elephants, to reduce fertility. However, the contraceptive used, in addition to making them NOT want to be impregnated, ALSO caused the females to emit pheromones which indicated they were ‘in heat’, or fertile, to the males. NO real problem, though, right?
          WAIT! Male elephantss, upon detecting those pheromones, become enflamed, a natural condition called “musth”, and are attracted to WHEREVER  ‘receptive’ females are! Now, normally, the females and calves group together, but, the males do the solitary thing, until mating season. Just imagine a herd of seemingly receptive females, and another ‘herd’ of lust-maddened males, determined to get at them ! The males, crowd in, and….OH, but the females AREN’T receptive after all, and move away from the forests, to avoid the males! More villages and fields are trampled than ever before! Some solution, though right?  ‘Book knowledge’ at its best!

        • The real Smart Guy

          mogul264 Well first let’s just say that you may be right about the Elephant behavior, but given the amount of lying that takes place on this site I’d at least like you to point to some evidence. Secondly, while I’m flattered you think I’m a young Collegian, you’re like many and very wrong in your assumption. I’ve gotten my education like many by doing. While I readily admit to being an avid reader (I probably read 50-70 books a year) some are for entertainment and some are to acquire additional knowledge to continue in a quest for KNOWLEDGE. That seems to be what’s sorely lacking here. I’ll lay dime to a dollar that you got your Elephant start on GEO channel or some such and haven’t cracked a page in decades. As a matter of fact I’ve been on this planet since Ike was in office and my Daughter was the first in our family to ever attend college, she could probably help a lot of you given her Masters Psychology and she’s now pursuing her Doctorate. So since you’ve already shown yourself to be a fool for stereotyping someone you now nothing about save for a few posts on a stupid websites comments section perhaps you should STFU lest you continue to prove yourself a couch potato with all the info GEO or Animal Planet can teach in a half an hour

        • Evermyrtle

          The real Smart Guy mogul264 This is Cody with a new name!!!! Betcha!!

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy mogul264 How many government shills do you think someone needs to see before they can recognize one without having to go the dinner and a movie route.  If your daughter wasted my tax dollars on a degree in Psychology, then she quite likely cannot even help herself, let alone anyone else.  Why don’t you look up the origin of the word “psyche”? Perhaps it will give you some idea of the true nature of mental voodoo.

        • The real Smart Guy

          Evermyrtle The real Smart Guy mogul264 
          Then you would lose that bet my Dear. My Name is AL Dregger from Minneapolis MN

        • The real Smart Guy

          Troubleshooter The real Smart Guy mogul264 And what makes you think your tax dollars had anything to do with my daughters education pompous horse’s rear end. I paid for her schooling and while you may be one who sees chem trails, black helicopters  and think 9/11 was either a Black op by our own Government or a Mossad op most of us are sane and normal. We’re not paranoid deluded fools who see ghosts where none exist, as to the value of her work, well I can see it all the time. She’s made families whole, abused children able to cope, and many other works that have healed those with troubled minds, just what have you done for society besides help divide it further?

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter mogul264 You may have paid for her Anti-Christ Education, so that she can work in an Anti-Christ endeavor, but my Tax Dollars pay for the Schools, and they are a waste of money, because they have long been saturated with Socialist Agenda by Socialist Unions who require Socialist Curriculum to be taught by Socialist-thinking Shills, with the exception of very few, who don’t stay long.  As for ChemTrails,  The United States Air Force issued a report acknowledging the purpose and content of ChemTrails and its participation in their use.  I suppose you think that the 1800 plus Professional Engineers, Explosive Ordnance Techs, and FireFighters, who through their combined Centuries of experience and Knowledge (not tv hype from Your Congress and Your President) have concluded that the WTC was dropped by Controlled Demo, are less knowledgeable and honest than You and Your Government.  I’m not surprised.  You Are A Shill, and nobody with half a brain buys into your crap.  As for what I have done for Society, Nothing.  I don’t owe Society anything.  I enlisted in the United States Navy, more than once, and served Honorably and with Distinction beginning in The Vietnam Era.  I was sent overseas in multiple deployments, and thanks to The Military Order Of The Purple Heart, I receive a Veteran’s Pension.  I have given the people of this country, in addition to my Military Service, sons and a daughter who are honest, clear-minded, and aware of the value and importance of the United States Constitution, which I took an oath to protect and defend, and which they now support as loyal United States Natural Born Citizens.  In addition, I Confess and Tell Others that I owe EVERYTHING to Christ Jesus, and to Him I gladly give my life.  Your arrogance is typical of that of most Government Shills, but you betray yourself in so many other ways.  Your arrogance is your hubris stigmata which screams of your ignorance with regard to reality.  You have chosen to sell-out.  You have joined the ranks of those who are guaranteed to lose, as all Elitist Thinkers eventually do.  Get Thee Behind Me Satan, The Lord Rebuke You and All your Works, in The Holy Name of Christ Jesus. So Be It.

        • The real Smart Guy

          Troubleshooter The real Smart Guy mogul264 Talk about hubris as you claim “Your Tax” dollars built my daughters school, they didn’t. Your so called proof of the dropping of the towers has been debunked by literally thousand of engineers. You owe society whether you choose to think so or not. The reality is without a civil, agreed upon concept of behaviors there would be no society, and quite frankly I highly doubt you’re a Nam vet I know many and most do not run around throwing it up in a disagreement where it serves no purpose in advancing the dialogue. I wish they’d have made the Stolen Valor legislation stronger so liars like you were punished for the disgrace you give to those who have actually worn the uniform like my Dad and other family members. The old man didn’t “Brag” about his war efforts, he considered them part of his National Duty and slugs like you detract from those very real heroes.
          As for the chem trails and the rest I was testing and yep you’re a lying, paranoid, deluded excuse for a human being.

        • FestisFloyd

          The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter mogul264   Well said, I am a Viet Nam Vet from 1964-65.  Your Dad was correct.

        • Evermyrtle

          FestisFloyd The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter mogul264  
          The Real Smart Gur is fooling himself, makes him look bad.

        • Troubleshooter

          FestisFloyd The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter mogul264 Gee FestisFloyd, sounds to me like you just threw up your Military Service by bragging about it in a disagreement.  I was a Job Coded 5″ 54 Gunner who enlisted 08/01/68.  I served as an Adjutant with the Military Training Office at Great Lakes, assigned to the 24th Battalion Special Units.  Leaving there, I went to the U.S.S. Claude Vernon Ricketts, DDGG, a Guided Missile Destroyer, and after my second deployment on the Ricketts, I was recommended and accepted re-enlistment under the STAR program.  After an extended TAD at Navy Gunnery School,  I was deployed to another Destroyer, the U.S.S. Furse, DD882.  After leaving the Furse, I was sent to Shore Duty at Norfolk Naval Station, where I served as Driver and Escort for the Admiral.  Just a sample of my Military History.  Tell me about yours; Oh wait, let me guess: Drafted, In-Country, sloggin’ with the Doggies, Gettin’ shot at, shootin’ back, hating the Army but loving your Brothers.  Glad to jump that MACV, but sad to see your Brothers still there.  Yet, You didn’t re-enlist.  Why?

        • The real Smart Guy

          FestisFloyd The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter mogul264 
          TY Festis Floyd, an honorable man has been found on this board, thanks for -your service, My Father In Law was there in 1967-68 4th Ivy he’s a great guy and another who doesn’t go around blowing his horn, he’s a gracious, humble man and a mentor for me

        • ingersoncj

          The real Smart Guy FestisFloyd Troubleshooter mogul264 Hopefully more than one honorable person here – was in 1962-66 and then 75-85 (until too many MI’s forced me out) – c

        • The real Smart Guy

          ingersoncj The real Smart Guy FestisFloyd Troubleshooter mogul264  Too bad there aren’t more but if you read some of the bragging you know some of these tools are not real vets and too many posters take them at face value when they claim service. It’s a crying shame and does a real dis-service to those who served. 
          Thanks for your service!

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy ingersoncj FestisFloyd Troubleshooter mogul264 And you would know a real Veteran how? Cause your “Daddy” was a Veteran?  I’m calling you an ungrateful little punk, who wouldn’t know a Veteran if one knocked you on your ass.  You’re just another loudmouth who never served anything or anyone but himself.  Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -Yankee Oscar Uniform. Do you Copy? Bore Clear.

        • ingersoncj

          The real smart guy- maybe you’d like to know about us Veteran’s going to college – let’s go back to the 1960′s – where if you were a veteran you got no scholarships – no grades in some classes (meaning a C or below – some would just fail a veteran for taking their course) – you stole food to eat (GI Bill was $90.00 /if Married $110.00) – I was asked to give my money from the GI bill back as the VA said there was no way I could afford to be in College (had to show my transcript – honor roll – worked day job/night job – 16 hours at night school – wrote for the college rag – President of one of the 1st Vietnam Vets Clubs in America – my wife and I took a 4PM class to be able to see each other. Teachers were somewhat left leaning – which made it very difficult to achieve. My wife almost died from a mis-carriage – when I approached the scholarship board as to why I was never picked – this is what they said, “You are white, married and a veteran – you’ll graduate whether we give you a scholarship or not!” I told them they were responsible for my wife almost dying and our now dead child!
          And yes children who go to school – because in our day they could avoid the draft – went into education – because they could avoid the draft – married because they could avoid the draft – and had children because they could avoid the draft – and then got divorces as soon as they were able when there was no more draft! 
          Most are willing to play the game and walk away without any debt – and a degree while we were in places unknown trying to survive. Today many are not much different judging from the VA Beach exercises (all in the name of good fun) this past weekend – and other indulgent orgies around the Easter Holidays. 
          There are very many excellent young people in this nation raised by good parents who’ve never served in the military – however, the majority of the fools who pass themselves off as being adults; i.e. the subject of this article – ruin it for the rest of them. 
          Both of our sons (one who’s had 140+ major surgery’s – including 3 cranial tumors and the other who had some childhood illnesses which precluded him from serving) are two good young men (well in their 30′s now). Both achieved Eagle Scout – both have their Master’s Degrees (even with their disabilities) and both are very proud of our military history and understand there are fools in this world as well as honorable men and women.
          When I was in college we had 300+ veterans going to a small Jr. College in Upstate NY – we were never hassled as there were too many of us and we watched each others six! At the 4 year school – we were there during the Kent State fiasco – and it was the veterans who maintained the equilibrium at our school (I was also the Veterans Club President).  
          The students at the four year school were foolish punks – two stories (both very true) – with Kent State some classes ended and others didn’t based on student votes. In one 3/4ths of the class failed because they voted to end the class – the professor threw out the curve – two of us got B’s – 3 C’s – a bunch of D’s and the rest F! In another class I was on the Quad explaining to our Professor that we paid her salary and she would be in class to complete the semester – while doing so my wife went ahead to the class building were some really dumb people pretending to be students taunted her and had her crying and would not let her up the stairs. I came along – told her it was okay go ahead to class. Then I tore into those imitations of human beings – would guess some might still remember the fear they faced that day when I was done with them – I never even raised my voice!
          Punks are a dime a dozen – and just because they live in mobs doesn’t mean they are worth anything of value except to fertilize the soil when the die. Hopefully the real smart guy – you are not one of them – and if you are make some course corrections.
          Most of us veterans have a real thin skin on some issues – it is best to keep quiet rather than to rattle one’s chain in anticipation of some fun. A couple of years ago (being old and disabled) my wife (same one – 44 years later) went to St. Augustine – when we went to part a very big black fellow hopped in the back seat of our car. My wife had been counseled to let me handle situations like this – to lean forward and say nothing. He said his wife and child were hot and hungry and could we give him a ride to where they were – I agreed. As we pulled into traffic (when at the curb he’s the advantage – when the car is in traffic we do) – he said, “Most would be pretty upset if a big black guy climbed into their back seat!” Would guess he was implying a threat – so I said to him, “I spent 14 months in the Far East – and was in Harlem in 1964 with Dr. Martin Luther King (we were friends due to an essay I’d written when I was 17 entitled, “Man’s Right to be a Human Being”).  I finished with saying,  “give it your best shot!” He asked if he could get out – and we let him – but asked if he really did need money for food – he said he did – we gave him half of what we had – $6.00 – never carry cash when traveling!. 
          Smile – remember there’s no such thing as an empty weapon – and all are locked and loaded – chuck

        • The real Smart Guy

          ingersoncj First off you obviously haven’t followed ALL my posts or you wouldn’t felt the necessity of writing your diatribe.
          Let’s start with education. You seem to correlate you experience returning home with all higher education which I don’t really understand. The times were tumultuous, many in the nation treated our returning vets like crap and it’s a shameful little bit of American history PERIOD. What happened then and what happens now are quite different scenarios.
          Secondly while all your personal story sounds difficult so were many others but I’ll tell you this from my personal experience. The BEST of the Viet Nam era vets that I know don’t brag about their service (I don’t care who you are if you joke and brag about taking human life you are less than a human being) and many of the braggards on this board with all their talk about what bad azzes they are and all their service related medals etc. are liars. The tone and tenor of their own words give them away. That’s why, if you’d been following ALL my posts you’d see I not only support the Stolen Honor Statute but think it should be stronger. I hate paper tigers and liars as much as I hate ignorance and disinformation. The first because I feel it detracts from the real honor service gives a man or woman and the latter because it harms our nation in ways that reflect themselves in Americans hating fellow Americans for simply having an opposing view. My Father served, My Father in Law served nearly 30 years apart but both are or were honorable men who never were or are braggards about all the minutia of their service. My Dad left parts of himself on Iwo Jima and eventually succumb to cancer of the colon that I can trace back to his losing 80% of his on the God Forsaken Island in what I now know to be an extremely heroic effort to save another man’s life. My father in law still deals with jungle rot (foot fungus) issues with his feet after spending 1968 -69 in rice paddies with the 4th Ivy (My Dad was a Navy Sea Bee). I was 4F when I tried to enlist in 1978 due to a back injury that occurred when I fell off a roof when I went into that trade the tear after I graduated high school. It as deemed I would not be able to carry the weight a grunt needs to  long term as a result of compressed vertebrae from that accident.
          On the flip side my Mother Marched with King in Chicago in the late 1966 over the red lining practices of realtors who were helping keep a major metropolitan city in the North segregated.
           Yes the way Vets were treated coming home from Nam was a disgrace but that has little to do with how vets are treated on an educational level today. The new problem for the vets coming home now is medical and psychological support that is sorely lacking and way underfunded so some thing don’t change when it comes to how the Government allocates it’s money. I’m not a strong believer in the small Government many posting here want (although mostly they seem to just want to Obama bash as if that solves everything, it doesn’t) We need a responsive Government that spends it’s resources well and appropriately on our real needs. Vets, our crumbling infrastructure, proper enforcement of trade agreements and economic sector growth to name a few. Perhaps if we weren’t sending idiots to congress that could get addressed but this paranoid they’re out to get us crap is just stupid, the Government may be screwed up but there aren’t going to be Fema camps and the like where Americans are interred. If anything it’s going to die a slow death from a lack of involvement from the majority of the population and the foolishness of the who pursue fallacy over a united front

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy ingersoncj 
          I really don’t have the time to read all your posts, but it is quite obvious our government has changed.. In fact..I wonder if we already are taken over by the enemy..I can’t believe the things the government is doing…hurting Americans on many issues and bills and bending over backwards to help those that want to destroy America.. America is almost gone…If Opukeface has his way, it will be a total different country soon..Trust the government???I fear the government..what will they do next..aren’t you up on the horrendous things he is doing??? Muslim brotherhood and muslims all over our government now and they are helping our enemies and taking our freedoms away. They are teaching Islam to such a extent, and not other religions, so it is indoctrination of our kids..
          Clinton has been involved with muslim group for many years to infiltrate them into our society…
          Our government is not the same government we had in past…the enemy is within and it won’t turn out well for any of us until people open their eyes to the obvious.. get informed and you will see.

        • ingersoncj

          The real Smart Guy ingersoncj no brag – but for your benefit I’ll apologize and go another day to do what I do – government being what it is – we want fair and reasonable government and as far as bashing the person in the WH – it was fine for the media to do it to Bush – 24/7 – but now with a fraud representing our nation – we’ll have to hold our piece. Now isn’t now – it just a different date with the same stuff going on – 55,000 soldiers/sailors/marines/airmen (and women) were just given their walking papers (all with between 12-14 years service so it means no retirement – no benefits) all at the expense of the new hippie – illegal aliens and entitled (which is not their fault apparently).
          All that’s changed is the rhetorical non-sense is now deeper and piled higher to convince those coming up – it was all whitey’s fault!
          Never said anything was difficult it was the hand we were dealt – we’ve played it to the best of our ability – sorry but no brag – don’t need to – but somehow if we don’t explain you assume – and if we do – we’re bragging – see it’s a no-win situation – good luck  c

        • ingersoncj

          The real Smart Guy ingersoncj ps – we don’t say we’re anything and if you ever call me a liar to my face – then you’re really some pretty sad stuff. Human life is sacred – but it’s okay you just go ahead and call names – you seem pretty good at it – too bad – c

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy ingersoncj So, tell us, “real smart guy”, why didn’t you enlist when you graduated like the rest of us, before you “4f’d” yourself?  Do you think that those of us who did serve haven’t heard all of those excuses a thousand times over?  The more you run your mouth, the more bullcrap comes out of it.  You can spare me any more of it, I’ve had my ish.

        • The real Smart Guy

          myaka The real Smart Guy ingersoncj You know I just feel so damn sorry for you folks sometimes, you’re so paranoid and have your facts so flat wrong but I’ve seen reasoning just doesn’t work with people in this confirmation bias world in which you engage your thinking. It’s scary Muslim this an Scary Muslim that and even when proof is given you’re wrong you reject it. It’s just not worth the effort to try and open minds that are more closed than the Vatican’s files on pedophile priests.
          I guess my biggest question is what you’ll do when none of these bizarre ideas of yours like Fema camps, Muslim take over and all the rest never come to fruition, who will your next boogeyman be?
          I really am sorry you can’t accept reality on reality’s terms and I might suggest seeking a mental health professional but you wouldn’t.
          I have a good friend who was once a Militia member an Alex Jones listener, and a big Infowars. WND subscriber who for years told me this event or that event was coming and I began making a list of all his predictions and then sat him down one afternoon and pointed out how not one single things he said would happen did. He sputtered, look confused and rather than accept he’d been oh so wrong on so many fronts who made up a bunch of new excuses as to why they didn’t happen. HE simply could not and would not accept being wrong. I feel sorry for you but friend you’re just so far out there I doubt you have the ability to ever return to normalcy because this deluded paranoia has replaced everything else in your mind. It seems like a sickness for which there is no cure so you band to gather in these little groups and literally avoid anything contradictory because you just can’t accept anything else. So sad, it’s just oh so damn sad to see Americans behave like scared 3rd graders. Best of luck and I really hope you do get better

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy myaka ingersoncj 
          yes, you are too brainwashed to ever undertand what is going on..But you will not be prepared mentally or physically when it happens…
          The only way to change what is coming, is for fools to open their eyes and together as a nation put a stop to their plans..
          Fools like you are probably hopeless and will be helpless when it all comes down…it will…unless someone has the guts to stop it.Millions of us know this..wake up pal.

        • The real Smart Guy

          myaka You make these simple astonishing claims but I notice one fault in your premise, you over no substantiation. Not a credible link, not a source for you claim that there are  millions of you. And what exactly makes you the divine power to determine either my physical or mental fitness? Look just put up proof of these wild and insane allegations or shut up. Fro my research your numbers are not nearly what you claim and if you were so powerful why are you so poorly represented in National politics?  Am I just to take your word in all of this? Sorry it doesn’t work that way.
          You do know there are many liberal gun owners don’t you, or have the talking heads convinced you we have no fire arms. You do know there are many liberal veteran groups don’t you. YOu do understand that 67% of this country’s own citizenry think you dangerous and are more afraid of you than of our outside enemies whose abilities are highly over rated to get people like you ramped up for ratings and money. Do the terrorists have an armada? A Navy? An Air Force? Do they have any well trained and well armed standing force? Do you ever question the veracity of this wild eyed childish behavior you exhibit?
          I’ll take a wild guess here and say no, you never actually spend time in genuine critical thinking

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy myaka 
          Unlike you I have kept up on the bills and rules of what OPukeface is doing..I study this daily for years and guess it is about time you get out of your security circle and start finding out some facts…I got facts..
          They have Homeland Security in their special built tanks with new rules on arresting tea party people and Christians, not Islam, because Christians are such dangerous extremists….Royal BUNK to say the least.. that is where all the ammo is going, not to our army or navy..do your own research..you might learn a thing or two.

        • mogul264

          The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire College age young adults ARE like little children! They are legally (but NOT mentally) full adults, with all the rights and responsibilities, thereof! However, they want to show THEY, indeed, DO have ideas, as well, to their parents!  They feel THIS is the way to demonstrate it! They will just SHOW their parents, who NEVER, EVER, EVER LISTEN TO THEM! But, their ideas are born of the book learning tripe they have just been indoctrinated with from the ‘learned’ professors!  You know how it is said ‘those who can do, DO, and those who CAN’T do, TEACH’? All TOO true! These professors, as you said, are from the LIBERAL arts genre, ARE generally as the name says……LIBERAL! This is the ‘feel good’ sort of crap they LOVE to preach and exhort the students to DEMONSTRATE for! 
          I said before, they have received ‘book learning’, many ideas on WHAT should be done, not HOW, or the REPERCUSSIONS of rash, ill-advised, or uncaring action!…..This means they have little or no ideas on how to ACCOMPLISH anything positive, just how to TEAR DOWN, just the way to climb up the backs of producing workers! This is what they think is PROGRESSION! Actually, it is REGRESSION! Without someone ELSE actually PRODUCING THEIR share for them, they can NOT SURVIVE! And this is why the Soviet Union, and Communism, failed! Paraphrasing the Iron Lady, Margaret Thatcher, “Socialistm fails when it run out of other peoples’ money!”

        • myaka

          mogul264 The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire 
          bravo…yes, couldn’t have said it better….when I hear of some of the things they are being taught, I cringe…Now with the new “Common Core” education program to REALLY instill communist indoctrination.. Also will dumb the kids down even more than they are already getting from the horrid teachers who indoctrinate instead of teaching how to think on their own..making sheep of them.

        • Troubleshooter

          myaka The real Smart Guy None of the ammunition purchased by DHS can be used by the Military.  It was all outlawed for military use by the Geneva Convention.  The small exception may be any .308 rounds they may have purchased for the AR-15′s that Nappy says are “suitable personal defense weapons” for Civilian employees of DHS.  You know, the same AR-15′s that the Gun Banners are saying are NOT suitable for personal defense weapons. Myaka, you are dealing with a Troll and a Shill.  Don’t waste your time.

        • The real Smart Guy

          myaka The real Smart Guy 
          Really then provide links from REAL sources, not infowars or WND, put up or shut up, I know factually you can’t because what you claim is a paranoid fantasy not reality, it’s real simple PROVE IT!

        • Troubleshooter

          myaka mogul264 The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire It has been proven over and over that kids are smarter, and have higher IQ BEFORE PUBLIC SCHOOL, than AFTER GRADUATION.

        • The real Smart Guy

          Troubleshooter myaka The real Smart Guy 
          You’re a liar and a coward and Myaka would do well to know it, Come on keyboard warrior, if you’re such a tough guy take the challenge I gave you. I now you won’t because your picture is stolen, you’ve never worn the uniform or served, you’re a little bitch and about has tough as a meal worm. Big Bad talk as long as you can remain anonymous but the minute you were challenged you shut up like the little puke you are

        • The real Smart Guy

          mogul264 Let’s see how poorly you’ve constructed your argument OK
          First you take one one partial sentence and take it out of context to try to make an invalid point

          Second if those that can do . tell me how the hell did you learn to read, write, do math, or learn any history (although I can tell you were a poor student in that calls
          Third I see you say college age adult are like little children, that means there’s a whole lot of little children protecting your tired ass whule you type that tripe and demean them and the Government has given those same little children far superior weaponry than any other little “Children” in the world
          Finally you can denigrate higher education all you want but on average someone with a college diploma at least at the BA level earns about a million dollars more over the course of their working life than someone without, an that I think hits the nail on the head, you’re just a bitter jealous old toddering fool who has realized too late you made piss poor choices and now it’s just easier to hate everyone who can out think you, out earn you, and out and out are better people than you thanks in large part because their thinking is reality based and not some paranoid fantasy of the coming apocalypse that really isn’t

          Thatcher ruined Britan so you really don’t know your history too well
          Poverty has risen since from 14 to 33 % after the implementation of her policies
          14 million British children have less food security thanks to Thatcher
          The list goes one but why waste tie with a fool who denies facts. I feel sorry for you but you also kind of piss me the hell off because it’s people like you with your hate and paranoia that will destroy this country from within and kill the great experiment of self governance.

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter myaka I just went to your bio and backtracked to your so-called challenge.  I had not seen it before.  The profile picture is of my Dad, his Army Air Corps WWII Uniform, with the Master Sergeants Chevrons on the sleeve.  I posted it on Veterans Day last year to honor him.  Any Moron who knows anything about the military tell that the man in the profile picture is not wearing a Navy Uniform.  Other than that, with regard to your mouthy punk-assed threats, I’m a pretty good skip-tracer from my days with the Bail Bondsmen Protective Service.  You’ve heard about “the wrong one”?  That’s me.  By the way, I’m close.

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter myaka 8o West.  Soon.

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter myaka I was watching a movie last night when you issued your “challenge”.  After that I got a good night’s sleep, and had breakfast at the VFW with my friends.  Now, you have more of my attention than you want.

        • Troubleshooter

          I’ll give you a call from that place on E. Jefferson where the Vets hang out.  Then we can get together for a friendly chat.  Thanks for the invite.

        • Evermyrtle

          The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire             
           All of us do tend to gravitate toward GOD, but I find that all who love gravitate toward his evil ways. The most popular thing that you love is in tearing down our belief in our SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST and our tendency to follow HIS commandments.
          Tell me, you who think that you are so smart, why do you do this, why do you care: it doesn’t make sense to me.You never defend, outright your love for evil, instead you just attack our faith in HIM. Why is that? I would like to hear what one of you, have say about it. We have our ideas but are they right?

        • Evermyrtle

          The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire  I messed up, I should have said all who love GOD, tend  gravitate toward HIM all who love evil gravitate to their evil works.

        • The real Smart Guy

          Evermyrtle It’s really this simple dear. he did not exist, of the 21 great and recorded Roman Greco scholars of the era not one word was written by them of your Christ. He was a carpenter but not one edifice exists that can be attributed to his so called work. The concept of religious immaculate conception was written about well before Christianity came into existence. Most of Christianity’s celebrated days were stolen from pagan’s due to their popularity with the masses, you Christmas is a direct theft of the Pagan’s celebration of the winter solstice. I could go on about how your bible was written well after the existence of this supposed child of god but at the end of the day it’s up to you to PROVE such a being ever existed. I live in the reality based world, I stopped believing in the imaginary by the time I was 10 years old. None the less I studied Christianity’s texts, the Torah and Eastern religious beliefs all through my my early adult hod and by the age I was 30 I became firmly convinced that religion is nothing more than a way to manipulate the masses so those in power can use it to control and enslave you. You’re free to believe what you want but I PROMISE you this, there is no afterlife, there is no God and upon you’re death you’ll never know it because you simply cease to exist
          Have fun fooling yourself, it’s certianly your life to waste in vain

        • mogul264

          Troubleshooter myaka mogul264 The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire Supposedly, IQ doesn’t change much as a person ages. It is supposed to be a measure of intelligence, cognitive processes, not knowledge. However, I DO believe kids are DUMBED DOWN, not educated, in our PUBLIC school systems! Social promotion, ‘feel-good’ education, deliberate REWRITING of history, all this causes maximum confusion in students, along with leniency in grading, hence the degradation of our young peoples’ minds!

        • mogul264

          Troubleshooter myaka mogul264 The real Smart Guy texasjo JohnMaguire Forgot to include the ready access to drugs and pot! These ALSO reduce the thought processes!

        • The real Smart Guy

          mogul264 While I certainly agree social promotion is bad for the child and the world the kid will eventually inhabit, I’ve personally seen no “Feel good” education or efforts at rewriting history in any of the 7 states I’ve lived in and had my children or other family members children attend. My middle son is the victim of social promotion and I’ve spent entire summers correcting the school mistakes and educating him so he remained prepared to face the next year on even footing with his peers. If anything in many ways many schools systems are teaching a more thorough and honest history even if some of what is taught doesn’t paint this nation is the best light. If we’re to be honest NO COUNTRY even one has great as this is perfect and mistake free and teaching history even with it’s blemishes is rewriting history I’d ask you to sit back, take a moment and rethink that proposition. I mean we did deliberately give native Americans or Indians or whatever they preferred to be called today blankets infected with small pox. Slavery is still a blight on our Nationally moral history, and there are other instances where poor choices were made by our leadership. All that said I feel we should love America as we love family and when I family member makes a mistake we point it out and try to help them correct it.

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy Evermyrtle 
          You promise us that huh,that is funny.. thousands of people have died and resuscitated and tell of a completely different story…Many were atheists, like you, but say that now know there is no death. our soul continues on…
          Too bad you don’t know as much as you think and your spewing this garbage to the people who don’t know any better.
          You are so  wrong. It is pitiful.

        • mogul264

          The real Smart Guy mogul264 Here’s just a small sample of re-written history YOU may have been taught: What were the names of the two iron-clads which fought the first armored ship battle in the U.S. civil war? And, who won?
          Most people immediately come up with the names of the Monitor and the Merrimac ! Well, I, too, was taught this! However, the Confederates only used the burned-out HULL of a U.S. ship at Newport News Shipyard, named the Merrimac, but when it was rebuilt, it was re-named the CSS Virginia! It took on the USS Monitor in the Hampton Roads area of Chesapeake Bay, Virginia. As the North eventually won, history was controlled by them, and the original hull name of Merrimac was listed!
          The first day it sailed, Virginia had sunk one ship, forced another to surrender, and caused a third to run aground. Dark arriving, it withdrew, planning to finish the beached one the next day. The Monitor had already been sailing from New York, nearly sinking during the trip, and arrived late. The next day, both sallied out, and commenced fighting.
          Oh, by the way, NEITHER actually won! The battle was fought to a draw! They were both slow. The Virginia couldn’t maneuver to a better position, and the Monitor’s turret was hard to track and aim properly, so both just chugged around, and slugged it out for hours. Neither hurt the other much (but the din must have been indescribable, inside!), then both lumbered off! As I said, a draw.

        • KennethBowman

          myaka The real Smart Guy  The ‘real Smart Guy” is a useful idiot of communist puppet masters.  He only believes what he is told by the American Communist Party {Democrat} through their many agents like main stream media, communist agents pretending to be “professors” and any other communist propaganda pretending to be “news’! 
          So completely brain washed is he that he actually believes he is SMART.  Con Artists love to mark such idiots because they are the4 easy to fool.

        • The real Smart Guy

          KennethBowman  Kenny Kenny Kenny, my God you’re certainly stuck on this communist malarkey to the point I wonder is you’ve forgotten the strides we’ve taken to minimize it across the board, Ken is there still a Soviet Union? For all Rush’s talk about the Chi-Coms do you even know that Chine has a burgeoning capitalist middle class being built as you type. While they may be far from perfect in the move toward true democracy global politics are going to demand an ever loosening hold of the central power still held in the hands of a few. If I’m such a communist tool why am I, in the midst of the economy still holding my own as a small business owner and still able to put my kids through the rigors and absorb the cost of higher education, because I’m a commie? You make no sense and simply parrot what you hear your favorite FAR right multi million talking heads say rather than take some time to really look at where the truth lies in this world. For the record El Rushbo makes 400 million and his primary job is to re-enforce your fears and help divide the nation by making your fellow Americans the enemy “Within” all the while huge corporate financial interests are robbing pensions, hoarding money that good reinvigorate the American economy if their leaders were true patriots.
          You can attack me until the cows come home but the facts will not change. Think what you will but know you are so far from the truth you’d need a compass to find your way back to it

        • The real Smart Guy

          @http://www.livefyre.com/profile/6036625/ So one bit of arcane history, which I honestly remember but not that well means everything else being taught has been rewritten? Really? One goose doesn’t make a flock. Also, and this is just a rather subjective concept that comes to mind as you’ve presented a SINGLE nugget is that perhaps true but could also be attributed to the later research and reconstructions that modern technology has helped bring to bear upon history. Thanks to technology much of the history (which we now is always written by the winners) is changing much about what we know of the past. Don’t take me wrong I’m not denying you may be right one this one matter but I also think one matter doesn’t definitively mean  every other area is being either rewritten or changed to make a political point. As a matter of fact I personally think those who endeavor in understanding history do not have an “Agenda” they are simply wanting a complete and accurate record to pass down. For all I know you happen to be a civil war buff and it may be the only area you have a base of knowledge in. one. Still I hope you see that showing one incident (which I’ll now research independently) shows some vast undertaking to subvert what is taught, come on you’re a grown up and certainly can’t be so shallow as to think that, can you?

        • The real Smart Guy

          myaka  really thousands huh. There are several hundred documented claims of people who think they may have seen a light at the end of a tunnel or met God or some such other nonsense but the brain is still ruled by chemistry and electrical signal and there are a myriad of far more reasonable and scientifically acceptable reasons for this fallacy of life after death. I’ve watched plenty more people die than I’ve ever wanted to and nothing butt empty shells that housed the biological systems were left. That;s it, I told you before you’re certainly free to believe however you choose but I’d rather my Nation NOT become another idiotic Theocracy ruled by religious zealots who are so certain they’re correct.
           Sometime, if you think you’re faith is strong enough and if you’re brave enough research Pascal’s Wager and see how you can explain your way out of that. I would truly be interested in your response to that dilemma it presents

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy mogul264 
          You know, people like you make me ill. You are doing your best to spread lies and defend what Obama is doing…
          On the education bit you wrote. uh, don’t you know that college has been brainwashing for years and years. Full of socialists. Now they are going for the very young with Common Core and teaching immorality like the communism steps say to do by educating kids to kiss same sex in school. Outrageous! Parents need to go to school and throw a fit or take the kids out. It is all indoctrination to destroy our society and make it Obama’s society of people on food stamps and living off the government.
          But what about this. With Obama destroying companies and jobs, who is going to hire these BA people? We have  college graduates working for us that cannot get a job , so working manual labor for us. He has no choice ..
          Tell the truth, you are here to discredit patriots and lie and deceive just like your fraud president. Most people know he is a fraud, but are shamed into not saying it. But I am saying it. He is a fraud and treasonous, deceiving dictator, destroying our Constitution and our way of life..that is his goal…

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy myaka 
          I have a multitude of links I go to every day to learn facts because you don’t get the facts on tv anymore. Obama made sure of that.
          You would just smear and try to discredit the facts…get off here Obama disciple

        • PaulBrown1

          Troubleshooter myaka The real Smart Guy Many of those rounds purchased are hollow points, and the military has never used them, they are popular with the criminal element in this country. They are also know as ” Cop Killers”.

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy myaka 
          yep , expected that from you. I have read several books on it and trying to disprove it , such as in your brain and not really happening, But that all is proven wrong because many knew what people were saying somewhere else and could tell what was happening when they were flatlined..so it isn’t in the brain.. watch video on youtube.com with Pamela Reynolds who is the best example of no life whatsoever and yet she knew everything and saw the afterlife…watch it, and try to open that closed mind…

        • myaka

          The real Smart Guy myaka 
          by the way, Pamela Reynolds body was kept cold and on machines to see if their was no brain activity for a brain surgery she had to have. they actually drained all the blood from her head…and she saw everything from behind the surgeon. She was basically dead. Amazing and documented by the doctors working on her and they are interviewed also…face it , it is real.

        • Troubleshooter

          PaulBrown1 Troubleshooter myaka The real Smart Guy I agree Paul; there was a point at which hollow points were briefly used by Military, but the maiming was so terrible that it was brought up at The Geneva Convention and they were outlawed for military use.  Many Law Enforcement friends of mine have used them, and some of them used to alternate them in their Service revolvers with wadcutters, which are also heinous in effect. I will disagree with you slightly about the type of ammunition referred to as “Cop-Killers”.  Originally, in the late 1970′s and early 1980′s, “Cop Killer” rounds were standard and hollow-point  ammunition that had been treated with Teflon to facilitate the passage of the round through the Body Armour that was in use at that time by Law Enforcement.  I used to keep a few boxes of it around for my S&W Model 29.  When I started carrying the S&W .44 Mag and the Colt .45 Mag, I figured that any armed intruder or attacker would get knocked on his ass just by the impact, and possibly prevent me from having to garner the spiritual debt.  The Teflon-coated ammunition was actually responsible for the development of better Tactical Plates which provide greater protection to those wearing Body Armour.  Before my second enlistment in the Navy, right after I became a Non-Commissioned Officer (GMG3), I was given the responsibility for securing and maintaining all of the Small Arms aboard my first Ship, the USS Claude V. Ricketts, DDG5, a Guided Missile Destroyer.  We had an extensive Ready Locker just aft of the Captain’s Stateroom, and then we also had a Landing Party Locker on the second  level below the main deck, underneath the First Division Berthing.  There we kept all kinds of Tactical Gear, including all of the shoulder weapons not held in the ready locker, including what people refer to as Machine Guns, (even had a rack of Thompson Arms .45 Cal sub-machine guns with both stick and drum mags, and everything required for a Shore Mission.  I  was also responsible for all of our Explosive Ordnance, and all of the Ammunition for our 5″ Guns, for two 5″54 Gun Mounts, including their carrier rooms and magazines and the auto-loading system for the two 5″ mounts.  I wasn’t responsible for the Tartar Missiles or the ASROC Missiles, but I was the Leader of The ASROC Security Alert Force responsible for the security of the Nuclear Warhead Magazine.  We saw several transitions in both ammunition and standard small arms equippage during my time in the Navy, and I am grateful for the knowledge and skills that it provided me with.  As part of my duties, I regularly detail-stripped,  inspected and test-fired every small arm on the ship, including all the sidearms and shoulder weapons, and the tripod and bipod mounted magazine and belt-fed weapons.  That experience has served me well in my 63 years of life thus far, and those with similar experience will understand what I mean by that.

        • The real Smart Guy

          myaka I live in a reality based world while you live in a fantasy based one, anecdotal cannot and does not replace demonstrable and pscience backed evidence. Point to one peer tested and peer reviewed piece of evidence of you claim. Can You? I do not think you can and just because a handful of people CLAIM to have seen this or that does not make the claim a valid reality. There are more that claimed nothing but blackness or do not even remember their near death experiences because. Give me ONE link that shows scientific eviidence that such a thing as an after life exists.
          Again I’ll refer you to Pascal’s wager which refutes (look it up since you may not be familiar with it) and prove what you say is true, You just repeat the same things over and over and over I guess hoping to break their resistance so they’ll agree but repeating a lie doesn’t make it any less a lie

        • texasjo

          mogul264 The real Smart Guy Mainly, what was learned it metal beats wood.

        • texasjo

          The real Smart Guy myaka You can absolutely TELL if you are visited by the afterlife people (such as my parents) because they are so beautiful in their glorified body.  I never have seen anything like that in any dream.  Also, just to add a maybe “funny” note to it all, the man and woman I sold their house to, which my parents really loved, and wanted me to keep, showed up in their bedroom and the man woke up his wife to see my mom tell dad “I guess it’s OK if Frank is here!”  I’ve never seen them like that.

        • texasjo

          myaka The real Smart Guy mogul264 My daughter is in education (a teacher) and I’m trying to talk her into getting a charter school as she’s a great teacher.  The administration HATES Charter Schools because they do so much better and are independent.  I heard on the radio that two little girls were made to stand in front of the class, kiss and pretentd they were married!  And, of course, we can’t talk about God, or anything like that.

      • mogul264

        texasjo JohnMaguire I am against the current direction of Planned Parenthood. I feel abortions should NOT be financed by me, as a U.S. taxpayer, however, an allowance could be made for someone who has some medical necessity and is unable to pay for it! In addition, I HATE paying for others to “play”, that is, paying for others’ contraceptives! I can think of no earthly reason WE should finance this! The only ‘good’ I can think of is at least SOME of the babies of the indigent won’t be  born, thus be another burden on the taxpayer! This in NO way modifies my feeling of disgust having to pay for such as college students having ‘safe sex’! Condoms and pills do NOT cost that much! If you can’t afford these, you can’t afford any sex, as NO contraceptive is 100% effective, and so a child IS possible! If you can’t afford a baby, you can’t afford sex, so go try some ‘alone’ time!

        • texasjo

          mogul264 texasjo JohnMaguire I’ve gone to 14 school, four of them colleges, and universities.  My father from north, military, mother from south.  I went to academy and college with International Students, and have traveled the world.  I still say Liberals have taken over the big ones, such as Harvard, where Obamas got free education.

  • myaka

    I saw her on tv being celebrated by a bunch of dumb women with signs Hillary for President 2016.. I am losing faith in most americans anymore…I can’t believe they can’t see obama is for the enemy , not Americans.

    • LarryChambers

      All it takes is one of them to start getting away with dirt and you can best believe the rest will follow. And I bet those women with signs weren’t on foodstamps.
      It appears only a few Americans, only a few, have not been seduced by him. Our cover is very thin, very thin.

    • texasjo

      myaka Very unsettleing thoughts!  I just can’t believe how many think Hillary is GREAT…they simply do not know the truth.  Just as Clinton bluffed his way around.  Lord save us.

      • GrizzMann

        texasjomyaka, Trust In God But Tie Up Your Camel.

        • texasjo

          GrizzMann texasjo myaka Yes, Grizz…also, remember the guy who said “speak softly, but carry a big stick!”  Teddy…

    • evans111

      If Obama is for the enemy, then why did he kill Osama?

  • myaka

    Hillary is behind Obama…Can’t believe anything she says…obama will set up the dictatorship and Hillary will lock it down, that is if Obama will let her run since i have read Obama is still trying to change the law and make presidential terms UNLIMITED.God save us from these evil people.

    • GrizzMann

      What Democrat do you beleive ? the one that said our healthcare bills would be lowered $2500 a year? the one who thought Guam would tip over due to overpopulation? The one who wanted to see the flag our astronauts put on Mars? etc.

      • evans111

        What’s wrong with putting the flag our astronauts on Mars?

  • JohnMaguire

    We all thought that the 2012 elections would be an indication of whether or not America as we knew it would survive but I now feel that 2014 is a MUST win proposition or all will be lost for a great many years. If/when Hillary runs and I believe she will, possibly with Michelle as her running mate, ….especially with ‘support’ from PrexBo, she will have learned well…..Promise them all sorts of free stuff, promise to finally make the ‘wealthy pay their fair share’, and the election will be over.  If PrexBo gets his amnesty plan in place it will be over no matter what happens.  Sadly, an election or two will not solve our countrys problems at this point.  A Free America is in real trouble now.

  • njsackman

    in 2002 in a news statement she put out…she said the the intelligence from her husbands presidency proved that he indeed had weapons of mass destruction & sadam should be taken out…they also know that the weapons are in syria, sadam had 2 747′s with labs on them that was flown to syria before the US attacked iroq…SHE & HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE IN JAIL for all the corruption they committed…..

    • ingersoncj

      njsackman Excellent comment – but don’t forget the truck loads of gold, silver and chemicals which crossed the borders as well! Special Russian experts and elite forces were in Iraq to facilitate these movements. I’ve used the analogy of giving the drug pusher on your street a three – four day warning the police where going to raid their home. What would the police find? Saddam was given three years – simple stuff. However, the media fail to mention in the recovered documents (of which most have now been translated) gave positive proof of the chemicals and other biological weapons possessed by Iraq.

    • texasjo

      njsackman Only thing that might work is prayer, since I’m pretty sure where “they” come from (evil).  I have been sickened esp. since Obama’s second election…how stupid we are to fall for that stuff.  I think folks should have a “test” before they vote to even see why they are voting…many have no idea what they are voting for!

  • njsackman

    scoder liby went to jail for what??? compared to these clintons!!!

  • ingersoncj

    A comment on polls in America – these are paid pollsters – they’ve an agenda – 73% if one polls only in the 21 major Urban areas of the Blue states would be about correct – while in the actual voting 108%+ would vote the way they’re told which is for the person with the 73% rating. In the US to be elected President you need only win 20-22 states to win the election – less than 4% of the land mass of the US contain these 20-22 urban areas!
    As for the comment on Communism – which is not really meeting the true definition of the same – this is the Socialism (a way of life) dependent upon the dictatorship or ruling junta (oligarchy) which is allowed unlimited power to meet the needs of the people whether they like it or not. A Russian defector who was one of the leaders of the Public Relations for Russia in the early 1950′s wrote a book telling how through the manipulation of the MSM they were able to push the totalitarian dictatorship (Russia is not a Communist Nation – it is an Oligarchical Totalitarian Dictatorship) in the US! The Vietnam War provided the needed ‘opportunity’ to alter the US educational system over the brink and into chaos. (Note: you could avoid Nam by being in College; then by being a Teacher; then by being Married; then by having Children – end of story; as in the 1970′s divorce was the choice made by those above when they no longer needed to avoid Nam.) Therefore they ended their marriages – had their degrees – and were tenured in the educational system – and by the 1980′s were the administrators as well. How better to implement Socialism and the Oligarchical Totalitarian Dictatorship in the US.
    Education in the public school systems was designed in the early 1900′s to make everyone ‘equal’ and that means with common beliefs – as determined by those who designed the system – Dewey (if anyone remembers) who was a Humanist. We’ve to remember – the schools are the ones who’ve preached ‘in loco parentis’ not the family or parents. If one decides to abdicate their parental responsibilities to the schools they’ve endorsed Socialism! At the age of 11 years old (1955) I rewrote a school system – adults (especially teachers) laughed at me – and therefore I read an average of three to five books a day until I could go take the GED in the military – after the age of eight one is accountable and responsible for their actions and choices – thus we’ve each choices on how we gain our educations. (Note: the High School librarian knew of my quest for learning and would pick out three books a day – six on Friday for me to read - she believed in the Constitution and truth.) If one chooses video games – violence on TV – disregard for the Commandments – and to defile themselves (which are all adoptive behaviors) after the age of eight – then they’ll get what they deserve (not earn) in life. Our education system is designed to make each person the best of the worst and the worst of the best! Money and power – decide who become the elite in the classrooms via better teachers (hopefully) – better books – and less violence in the classrooms.
    To sum up the above – manipulation of the MSM – brainwashing in the schools – worst of the best or best of the worse – most don’t care as it is only semantics – abortions – child parents – entitlements – and we are effectively back in the age of Homer – with all the bells and whistles of why Socrates’ had to drink the hemlock – chuck

  • bobm001

    Time for the US Marshalls to walk up to her door and “escort” her out in HANDCUFFS charged with PERJURY! A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR must be established to bring those to justice that left FOUR AMERICANS to die by the hands of AlQaida.

    • Evermyrtle

      bobm001 Don;t hold your breath!!!! It ain’t gonna happen!!! The anti-GOD forces are in control

      • JoeZimmerman

        Evermyrtle bobm001 
        YEP    sorry  to  say  ,,,

    • myaka

      Obama and Hillary should be in prison for their treasonous acts and lies…but seems they get away with every murderous and evil thing they do…

    • texasjo

      bobm001 They seem to have their own Mafia protecting them…including Clintons, Obamas, Reid, Pelosi, Sebelius, for sure HOLDER (no, nothing is amiss).  God forbid Biden gets in charge of anything.  Chaos!!

  • DonBahn1

    Congress is full of Democrats and Rinos = free pass for Obama and his cronies.

  • Joy J

    Hillary is just another Democrat who won’t take responsibility for her actions!!!  They continue to get a free pass from the media, from the world and from Americans so they will continue on their path of irresponsibility and placing blame anywhere else.  I’m glad she isn’t in that position anymore but her replacement is even worse!!!

    • LadyBGood

      Joy J  We haven’t heard the last of hillary!  She’s already making noise about 2016….the liberal machine will make light of anything she’s done! And if she has michelle obama on the ticket…those fools will vote for her…along with the same bunch of fraud!

    • myaka

      I really don’t think anyone else will have a chance if Obama can change the terms for president…Obama would love to be dictator for a long long time. Hillary would continue Obama’s policies as she is behind him all the way..
      There sure are some ignorant Americans out there….very upsetting

  • Will Turnage

    As with her husband, the only way you can tell she is lying is if her lips are moving.

  • dover

    Understand this- hill-billy Clintons know exactly the who what where when and why obomao was the candidate and are as complicit in this whole administration as a goodly number of Ds and Rs. Hilly lied under oath – few in the house have the chutzpah to challenge her- these people fight DIRTY- they will sell their soul, their mother-father children etc to keep their power.

    • myaka

      You are so right.. Clinton’s knew Obama was not a true American .  They were behind it all.. They are a member of Bilderbergs and after a meeting with Bilderbergs in 2008, she backed out of the election, because it was decided at their meeting, that Obama would be President…Do our votes even count??? We need to count on population vote and not the electoral votes.

      • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

        myaka Yeah, buddy, the ol’ Bilderberg trick! Let’s see here, formed in 1954 to rule the world. Strange, isn’t it, how they allowed Reagan and the elder Bush to reign for 12 years straight. I mean, Reagan did so many things that would seem to be COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of hil’ry & obamao! Yep, those Bilderbergs just can’t seem to get their act together, ya know?!

      • http://www.southernshade.weebly.com/ southernshade

        myaka Well, sure, I can see where hil’ry, instead of spilling her guts on obummer and probably winning the presidency in ’08, she would agree to wait EIGHT years with NO guarantee of being elected. In fact, no guarantee of her being healthy enough to run… or, even be ALIVE by then. Sure, makes perfect sense to me. Sorry, I think alex jones and the bilderbergs are overrated. At least, I sure HOPE so, because if they wield THAT much power…..guess what? It is over! What can we possibly do? The fix is in!!!

        • myaka

          southernshade myaka 
          It is not a conspiracy theory…I do not watch much of Alex Jones as he is out there, but he is right more than you want to believe…Look up Bilderbergs . Bunch of rich asses think they should control the world..They are behind much but hidden. Hillary is a member by the way.
          Obama passing bills that takes away our freedoms in so many ways..it all goes along with what they are trying to start..the world order, a communist type contract with United Nations is a fact..I have read several books about it. We need a few good people in our government, do their duty and stop what is happening instead of deliberately looking the other way as they take more and more and more…until no need for a congress..just a bunch of greedy men, who don’t give damn about the people they are serving..they got it made and have no conscious what they are letting happen..

      • evans111

        Sorry to burst your bubble but this is no Bilderberg conspiracy.

  • edgineer

    John McQuire?? I just love when someone throws out an obviously made up number. But that is what Democrats do right?

    • GrizzMann

      edgineer , followers of Saul Alinsky.

      • edgineer

        GrizzMann edgineer All Alinsky did was summarize tactics developed by the Communist Party., of which he was a member. Google CPUSA and check out their site. Few people are aware that the Communist Party is recruiting members in this country every day.

  • edgineer

    It is everywhere but you people are in the same class as California, New York and Illinois.

  • di from Oregon

    I hope she is prosecuted and jailed for these murders and lies.

  • fwiw

    I wonder how much this will hurt her presidential run in 2016.

    • GrizzMann

      Why would it? Lies are a resums enhabcment to Democrats. Look at her husband, loved and adored by Democrats. Remember his Blackhawk Down moment,  18 deaths, 80 wounded, and one helicopter pilot captured among the U.S. raid party and rescue forces. Responce , cut and run. It was Bush’s fault, the other Bush.

      • GrizzMann

        Resume, not resums. Sorry, fat fingers.

      • Stands with a Fist

        GrizzMann  
        19 deaths my man. 18 Rangers plus my friend PFC Martinez from the 10th Mountain relief force who was shot in the head as we had to hunker down on the way to the 1st crash site. It might not mean a lot to you, but it means a hell of a lot to me and my tribe of Army patch; our blood is just as red as the Rangers’, our sweat was spilled just like theirs, and just like them you can never pay us for what we saw, lived, and felt. Thanks CNN for bringing us to one of the premier hell holes of the world without the politicians having the resolve to back us up!

  • KazZellner

    Well, she did learn to lie from the best!
    And we expected differently? Any woman that overlooks the things she did, only goes to show what type of woman she really is.

    • PaulBrown1

      KazZellner It only shows she is a LIAR just like her ex-boss. The entire Admin. are all liars and don’t care about this country or the people.

      • Evermyrtle

        PaulBrown1 KazZellner For the latest on the Four Horsemen in Revelation got jackvanimpe ministries, TV programs and clip on the last two programs April 14 and April 21. It is very informing and interesting even if you don’t like Jack.

  • jbergman61

    We put Martha Stewart in jail because she lied to the Feds why can’t we through Hillary in jail she lied to the Feds

    • di from Oregon

      jbergman61 That’s what I say jbergman!

    • PaulBrown1

      jbergman61 I’m afraid Jail would be to good for her.

      • jbergman61

        You r right sorry I left!
        These dems are such snakes…
        Listening to 97.1 conservative radio right now
        Have a good night

    • LarryChambers

      These days in America; the less filth you have on you, the more likely you are to be incarcerated.

    • vietnamvet1971

      jbergman61  Because the Elitist Liberal (Holier than Thou) “Career Politicians” think they are above the Laws they are just for us poor Peons down here on Obozo’s Plantation. They are all SICKO’S.

  • texasjo

    Larry, I received an e-mail from a paper that said “JP MORGAN,” makes money (0.31 for each check) off illegals, and wants more of them.  See how “they” screw and spin info?  Of course JP MORGAN is for people to make money, put it in the bank, start businesses, and the fee for the checks is a drop in the bucket…probably Obama ASKED him to do it…grrr.

    • LarryChambers

      If I’m not mistaken it is J.P. Morgan that handles the foodstamp card transactions. I can’t rmember how much for each transaction but when its totaled up it’s way up in the millioms. There are a few articles around that tell how much each state makes off foodstamps. Again, it’s way up in the millions. Also, the soft drink company Coke, is lobbying to keep its prospects alive in the foodstamp game as several health concerns have crop up over them and other snack food companies as being unhealthy, and has raised questions asking why is it necessary for foodstamp recipients to make purchases of their products if the program is for nutritional assistance only. So there we can see what’s up with the foodstamp game; it’s big, big business. Everything from Frito Lays to Coke to frozen foods and every other  food proccesor you can think of. So who pays for all these snacks? First they fix the economy so the that certain citizens become foodstamp dependent. Then they look at their business calculations and like what they see. So now, it’s time to move in for even greater prospects. They bring in immagrants by the millions. Those who can’t or do not find work; welcome to  the foodstamp extravaganza!!!

  • evans111

    Why has not anybody acknowledged that Osama bin Laden was ghosted by our brave SEALs on Hillary’s watch? Who do you think was behind the scenes in bringing down the worst terrorist in modern history?

    • JoeZimmerman

      evans111 
      Hilly   did  not  want  the  raid  to take  place  ,,,,,,,,,,,

      • evans111

        I thought she was the invisible taskmaster running the operation from behind the scenes. Where did you hear that? I mean, Obama gave the green light, and I thought she and Obama see eye to eye on matters of national security.

        • JoeZimmerman

          evans111 
          You  can  smell Hillarys  crack   every  where  she  goes  she  has  not  washed  it  in  35  years ,,,

        • myaka

          evans111 you sound like you are brainwashed that Obama is great..You have not idea what he is really doing.. in fact I read that head of CIA is one that signed for it. Obama just wants the glory because he is an arrogant. Israeli doctor says Obama has a mental disorder. Labels him a
          pathological
          narcissist. He is destroying our liberty

        • evans111

          For what it’s worth, I had a good laugh over that one. You really don’t care much for Hillary do you?

        • evans111

          The movie Zero Dark Thirty did bring out the CIA Director gave to authorization to raid the compound. However, if Obama was against the operation we would have heard about it, I’m sure.
          You say I have no idea what he is really doing. What do you think he’s up to? I have experienced good intuition over the decades, and I’m not sensing anything dastardly in the man. He is also a champion for clean environment and clean energy solutions, making him an enemy of big oil. If anything, Obama is a good influence in D.C.

    • ingersoncj

      evans111 Would guess if she was or wasn’t – might not bode well when the Seal Team was set up for the ambush which killed them and their brothers – c

    • ingersoncj

      evans111 ABC News’ Huma Khan reports: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she has “no idea” what she was watching with President Obama and his national security staff when the photographer snapped a picture showing her with her hand on her mouth and a tense expression.   Would guess the no idea (here taken as her statement not out of context) and blaming her allergies – for a stifled cough! Let’s face it anyone can make her look good if they want – as long as they don’t allow the truth about her and her actions into the public (of course MSM would make her look like Bloody Mary in confession).

    • ingersoncj

      evans111 actually when it comes down to it – no one really knows what happened to bin Laden – nothing but the word of the WH -

      • The real Smart Guy

        ingersoncj evans111 Seal Team 6 know they executed the orders of the commander in Chief and have confirmed they got him so I trust them and they say it happened

    • myaka

      evans111   Our brave seals and many thru the years made it possible, not that Hillary, you fool..The reason it was done was to make Obama a hero that he isn’t…
      Bringing down the worst terrorist did nothing to stop the savages from killing…changed nothing, except a doctor who told where Osama was, is in prison .. She did nothing to help that innocent man who helped get him..that is the way our government is since Obamation got in with his voting fraud…changes nothing nothing  nothing nothing nothing.. even if it did, is it ok that she let those 4 men die…You know it was planned by Hillary and Obama to silence them that were involved with giving guns to our enemies…get real..she is a murderer.

      • evans111

        Really. Actually, you are the fool for not paying attention. I have praised SEAL Team 6 and have given them the credit for Osama’s kill. Hillary simply gets credit for not standing in their way. You obviously have no comprehension of human nature to attack the character of others, which is precisely why these web forums make my skin crawl. I would hate to have you in any position of authority in our government.

  • FestisFloyd

    Troubleshooter Do you always assume you know all the facts?  How do you know I did not serve my full 20 years in the service?  I am 80 years old at present.  FYI Navy Boy, I was with the 1st Special Forces Group on Okinawa, assigned TDY to Vietnam for two 1 year missions on a 12 man A-team.  In between, we held FTX in Korea, Taiwan, etc.  Also, to the Philippines for more training.  I was a Special Forces medic and feel I don’t have to justify myself to you but am doing so for the benefit of this forum.  I also taught Naval UDT when they came for jump ( Parachute ) training.  And they taught us UW Demolitions.  The SEALS were not yet born.  Sorry to burst your bubble.

    • ingersoncj

      FestisFloyd Neat stuff – a good friend of mine Dr. Robert Ingram (I believe he’s just passed away as I’ve heard from him in several weeks – he was in very poor health) served in WW2 – Korea and Vietnam (lived in CA) – thank you for your service Sir!  It would seem those who feel we need to justify ourselves to them have no credits to themselves – sadly – much of our world is now all about stolen honor – c

    • Troubleshooter

      FestisFloyd FestisFloyd; No, I never assume I know anything except who I am and who Christ is.  Most of the time, with the ’65-65 InCountry, what I described was typical, unless you were a Grunt or a SnakeEater.  Thanks for your service, but you may want to remind yourself that you jumped up and ran your mouth about me, not knowing ANYTHING about me.  Did you even read the post that the loudmouth was referring to?  No.  Just to give you a little insignt, I was a CJM at 20.  My Uncles and my Dad were WWII Underwater Navy and Paratroopers, respectively.  After WWII, when I was a youngster, Uncle Red ran the airport in my county, and it had the only authorized jump space in that part of the state. I’m telling you this so that you can understand how it was that I hooked up my first static line when I was 16, and in terms of knowledge and experience, qualified for NAUI Certification the same year.  The Period of time after boot camp during which I was assigned to the Military Training Office at GLNTC, they were running a BUDS prep program out of RTC, hiding it with the other Special Units.  Lake Michigan is a cold MF in the winter  Some of the candidates were prior service, some OCS, and some raw recruits just out of boot.  It was interesting.  Am I proud of my Military Service?  That’s a Charlie.  Have I bragged about any of it, or EVER lied about it: Negatory. What would there be found to be brag-worthy in having done the same thing that millions of American Patriots have done?  Just a question though, silk-popper, just who is it on this forun that YOU think benefits from you “justifying” Yourself? You don’t seem to be so much in agreement with the loudmouth now that the shoe is on your foot, do you?  Who The EFFing Hell do you think YOU are, to be attacking another Veteran?  Kiss My Ass, doggie.

      • Troubleshooter

        FestisFloyd Oh, and by the way Festis; thanks for participating in the Articulated Quiz.  You do have that term in with your mess kit right?

      • FestisFloyd

        Troubleshooter FestisFloyd Sorry Troubleshooter, I don’t kiss any more.  Stopped that a long time ago.  You seem to be mad at the world as well as some of us on this board.  I never attacked you or anyone that I am aware, just defending myself from presumptuous sarcasm that I never asked for.  BTW, I am not a ‘doggie’ or a ‘leg’ as I was ‘Airborne All The Way.’   And no I don’t have a mess kit because we eat snakes and carry a sock full of rice.  Now please cool off and talk about our real problems that we are discussing on this board.

    • Troubleshooter

      FestisFloyd So, tell me Festis, what year did you enlist, and when did you separate?  We might have some acquaintances in common.  I served in a lot of places with a lot of SFG people, from Tunisia and Cyprus in ’69 and ’70 to Gitmo and WestPac later on.

  • ingersoncj

    It appears my stay has been over-extended – so long c

  • DarleneThecolaratlady

    I dont use the king james bible, i use the 1599 geneva bible.. king james thought that any version of the bible before his was considered seditious and a threat to his monarchy.

    • ingersoncj

      DarleneThecolaratlady  Interesting – I’ve a copy of the original – but tend to use the William Tyndale translation as my standard with several others available for cross-referencing (1750′s version) anything after 1880 will be part and parcel of the revisionists of which I think there are now some 30,000+ thousand different ones. Another source would be the various writings (Dead Sea Scrolls and much more) from the times of the Old and New Testament. By going to these writings one finds part of the 3300+ books of the ‘Bible’ (Prophets) which are missing today. It also helps to study the history from about 700BC to 1300AD to fill in the gaps. Unless you’ve access to the earlier material (pre-700BC) which is now becoming available back to 3000BC.

      • JoeZimmerman

        ingersoncj DarleneThecolaratlady 
        Hill and  Bill  both  lie ,,,

        • DarleneThecolaratlady

          JoeZimmerman ingersoncj DarleneThecolaratlady  thats a given

      • Troubleshooter

        ingersoncj DarleneThecolaratlady I have an Old KJ, published by Heirloom Publishers of Kansas.  Red Letter and all the goodies, but some of the errors as identified by application of The Granville Sharp Rule ARE significant.  I also use a NSV and an RSV;  In addition, I have a NWT from The Watchtower Society, which I use when refuting their errors.  Even in the effort to rewrite Scripture to serve their Christ-Rejecting Agenda, (which they deny, of course, like the Mormons), they overlooked many Scriptures which defeat their own efforts to deny Christ’s Deity.  For my New Testament, my favorite, and the most helpful and clarifying so far is one published by the Messianic Jews, who call themselves Jews For Jesus.  They describe it as “written for Jews, by Jews, about a Jew.”  The Glossary and Reference Section are invaluable.

        • ingersoncj

          Troubleshooter ingersoncj DarleneThecolaratlady Smile don’t pick on us Mormons – most have never read the Old and or the New Testament – or gone back to review the Dead Sea Scrolls and much more which is and has been available for several hundred years – c

        • DarleneThecolaratlady

          Troubleshooter ingersoncj DarleneThecolaratlady  yes im trying to go back as far as possible in english..but the king james version, all the newer versions..forget it

        • DarleneThecolaratlady

          ingersoncj Troubleshooter DarleneThecolaratlady  i never said anything condemning Mormons

      • DarleneThecolaratlady

        ingersoncj DarleneThecolaratlady  yes im going as far back as i possibly can in english

        • ingersoncj

          DarleneThecolaratlady ingersoncj  Hi Darlene – one of the better researchers now dead is Hugh Nibley – there are many others – from a historical point of view – Dr. Kenneth W. Harl is Professor of Classical and Byzantine History at Tulane
          University in New Orleans, where he teaches courses in Greek, Roman, Byzantine,
          and Crusader history. He earned his B.A. from Trinity College and his M.A. and
          Ph.D. from Yale University. He’s several courses which are valid – and the most or an excellent resource is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabaka_Stone Shabaka Stone.  Good luck – c

  • ingersoncj

    Actually this thread has degenerated past wondering about the former Sec State lying and when one accuses others of lying, bragging, being contentious and whatever else he/she has in their vocabulary to use – it would seem as another has said, “He speaks without listening – to incite.” However, this was a good thread – and I’ve learned a new appreciation for the power of the pen – in the hands of those like the MSM who feel they can say what they want without responsibility and accountability. There have been some excellent posts – and discussion – but now with the assistance of some it is now an attack for us who’ve done our homework – served our time – and deal with the real world as mogul264 has stated it is difficult to have a discussion (without contention) with one who hasn’t been there and is unwilling to learn from those who have. c

    • Troubleshooter

      ingersoncj Amen.  As another poster said, Vets have thin skin, and some topics are better left the hell alone, especially by non-Vets.  It is too bad that the factors which prevent such things from being able to be discussed on such a forum, but I do believe that the primary factors are the two which you identified; “..one who hasn’t been there and is unwilling to learn from those who have.

      • LarryChambers

        “One who hasn’t been there and is unwilling to learn from those who have.” Hmmmm, I like that. It reminds me of the message Christ and all who love  Him try to convey to all men. See, you never know “who’s lookin at’cha.”

        • Troubleshooter

          LarryChambers @LarryChambers; Brother, my life is an open book, and Christ didn’t come to save those who don’t need him.  If I could be perfect, I would be “therealsmartguy”.  Know what I mean?  I posted my Verification of Benefits Letter on this thread just to see what kind of excuse or insult he and Dehoff are gonna try to refute that with.

  • mjnellett

    The rabbit trails that this discussion keeps generating are amazing. They wander so far from the discussion of the topic at hand that you have to wonder if some of these contributors even know what the topic is about.

  • mjnellett

    Troubleshooters right about the ammo being banned by the Geneva Convention, but my question is this, if he doesn’t honor the Convention, and is going to distribute the ammo to his “civilian peacekeeping force” then what does he really intend to use it for? Too many lies from this administration, too much stonewalling, too many unanswered questions. I don’t trust Obama, or his progressive zombies any farther than I can spit.

    • Troubleshooter

      mjnellett My guess is, as I have stated on this Site before, is that it is being stockpiled for two reason; one, to reduce what is available to the public; two, to supply and/or re-supply the Foreign Troops who have infiltrated our country with the illegals, and those who have overtly been training inside The U.S. for over 5 years that I know of.  I don’t know if you are aware of the vast underground complexes the Government has built and stockpiled. Such places can be used for Operations Centers, including Barracks for thousands of troops. They have interconnecting high-speed rail, and many of them have extensive Highway Systems with lanes large enough and tunnels high enough to accomodate, two 53′ Tractor Trailers going in opposite directions at highway speed.  This has all been captured and documented with extensive video.  These facilities are under heavily armed guard.  A clue about what IS being done with this AMMO is the fact that DHS refuses to tell inquiring Congressional Members what it is for and where it is stored.

      • Troubleshooter

        mjnellett The benefit to having Foregin Troops use non-military weapons and ammunition, is that it provides deniability; you know, “well, these crazy people must have all killed each other.”

    • The real Smart Guy

      mjnellett As I’ve explained every agency this ammo has been distributed to (by the way this happens every year you’ve just been made aware of this years purchases by those who want to manipulate your thinking) is used because as sworn officers of the law, just like police members have to do range time and maintain their weapons proficiency standards or they’ll lose their Jobs. Do you go to the range to keep your skills up? Do Cops have to spend range time to keep their proficiency well so do they it’s really that simple. How many rounds do you use at the range each year? The Government simply provides those authorized the ammo for the testing. It’s really a no brainer freind

      • Troubleshooter

        The real Smart Guy mjnellett If all of the Military ammunition expended in Afghanistan since we’ve had troops there had been expended in one year,  the ammount of ammunition purchased by DHS alone is more than enough, if it was military ammunition, which is expended at a far higher rate than Civil Enforcement uses, it would be enough to wage war at the same rate of expenditure for 20 years.  You are just so full of crap, Smartass, but we’ll discuss that soon enough.

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy mjnellett It’s gonna be funny as hell when you try to explain that a 63 year old Navy Vet made you his bitch.

        • Troubleshooter

          The real Smart Guy mjnellett A Disabled 63 year old Navy Vet at that.  Just TFT and me.

  • Troubleshooter

    therealsmartguy   I guess you’re really the real DUMB GUY, hunh?  They don’t hand these out for nothin’, and The Military Order Of The Purple Heart doesn’t spend its time and resources representing people who don’t deserve their effort.  The Effective date described on here is not the date that I began receiving this pension; the effective date on here is the date on which the new pay structure took effect.  Mine actually went down a dollar, because your Pres sucks.

    • Troubleshooter

      therealsmartguy Fortunately, I have other income as well, so I don’t have to waste any of my Pension to come visit you, snotwad.

      • The real Smart Guy

        Troubleshooter Oh look I got a pending on my last post, what did you do little girl go running to the admins for protection? What a little girl, bet you’re making someone a great wife

      • The real Smart Guy

        Troubleshooter  You keep talking and even said “I’m REAL” close but as of yet I haven’t heard you take up the offer you fake, keyboard warrior, pu ssy. Either put up or shut up you little lying punk it’s really that easy, let’s see all that battle tested courage in the flesh you worthless liar

      • Troubleshooter

        The real Smart Guy Troubleshooter Just keep on yakkin’ maggot.  If you look through the posts on this thread real good, in fact, just a few above this one, you see everything you need to know about me.  My name, My address, the amount of my monthly VA Pension, all on Veterans Affairs Letterhead, printed today from my ebenefits/va/gov site.  If I am unable to locate you, I’m hoping you will please come visit me.  I’d like to show you the kind of hospitality that Veterans provide for guys like you.  You are just so pathetic.  Just so you’ll know, that little call of yours didn’t do any good.  Everybody had a good laugh.  Love you, mean it.  Come see me if you can read a map.  Apparently you don’t exist under the name or in the place you gave me.  That figures.  I guess you’re really foaming at the mouth now, hunh?  Come on sugar pie.  Come see Daddy.  I’ll be damned if I’m gonna go any further on a wild goose chase.  But you can see all of my info on this thread.  Everybody else can too, so you can’t lie your way out of that.  Sissy.  LOL.  “The Real Smart Guy”.  Uhnhuh.  Real tough too, around the mouth.

      • The real Smart Guy

        @thttp://www.livefyre.com/profile/7481779/, I’ll make it nice and simple and private, I have a throw away Email addy it’s dave21659@ gmail.com so there you go sparky let’s do this

  • Troubleshooter

    @DonDehoff: Suck this,  slimebag.

    • The real Smart Guy

      Troubleshooter Wow for all your talk not one stinking Email, I’m not gonna search a thread down, yuo’re simply too big a p( ) ssy to really live up to what you say, Hell I gave you EVERYTHING, Name, Dad’s name, Half Brother’s name Email contact, so you can try to fool your buddies here into whata real tough guy you are (by the way living on your Gummit check) but you and I both know you’ve made NO EFFORT to take the offer up because you posted some photo shopped crap I’m not going to bother to hunt down you want to play that I’m the fake? You’re the fake, I gave you DIRECT contact info you piece of breathing scum, yo’re just like I said you were  a fake vet and a fake tough guy, KEYBOARD warrior is all you are or will ever be you gutless freaking wonder. So man up or shut up
      dave21659@ gmail.com

  • mjnellett

    I agree with you Troubleshooter, but the sad fact is that the House of Representatives, if they had solid leadership and a half dozen pair of brass balls between them, could simply shut off all funding until the questions are answered. I was told was happening to our country thirty-some years ago. I called the gentleman who told me all of this back then that he was crazy. I now stand here, ashamed of having done that because he was right, and I didn’t listen. If Obama pushes this country into a civil war then I can only imagine the blood that will be shed in her defense. Those who call us “extremists” today, as I called that man so long ago won’t be around to regret their decision to ignore events like I did. Bill Ayers, his pathological wife, and the “Weather Underground” members were actually talking about eliminating MILLIONS of Americans so that the population would be more “manageable. These fanatics, Obama, his progressive zombies, will look you in the face and tell you it’s not true. All the while quietly putting a gun to our heads. My wife and I will go down fighting if we must, because we refuse to live as slaves. We would rather die as free citizens.

    • Troubleshooter

      mjnellett picture this scenario; those who can do something about it finally acknowledge the validity of the mountain of evidence against this guy, and as a parting shot, he fakes his demise, false-flagging some innocent patriots, and then slips away to Indonesia or Pakistan, etc. to enjoy what he has stolen, leaving a race war behind him with no way to prove the truth.

  • mjnellett

    Real Smart Guy? Over 50% of college graduates in America today, can’t find a job! You just stand out in the street when the sh.t hits the fan and get your butt shot off because you refused to believe in the warning signs around you! Mrs Thatcher was how many Prime Ministers ago? You don’t think any of them might have screwed up what she put in place?  Who the hell promised anyone, any kind of security, except liars and despots when they were born. You can only be given the opportunity to succeed and what you do with that opportunity is entirely up to you. Wise up man, there is a storm coming and if you can’t see the signs, then we feel sorry for you.

    • The real Smart Guy

      mjnellett If you’re going to lie try to tell one that;s not so demonstrably easy to debunk. The unemployment rate I know it’s a little complex for your little mind so I’ll feed you the link and then explain it to you as well
      Basically while unemployment for those with just high school is about 8.3% and close to 12.4% for those without a high school diploma college graduates with at least a BA are seeing a rate of about 4.5%
      You just pull those facts right out of your backside don’t ya
      http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

      • ingersoncj

        The real Smart Guy mjnellett For someone who appears to want to be a ‘good person’ so far you’ve accused several of lying – you’re contentious and remind me of those leading the Salam (and other witch hunts) i.e. our way or no way! For the most part I’ve enjoyed the participation on this site even though we’ve strayed far from the subject matter – however you’re becoming rather difficult to believe you’re here for conversation and discussion rather than believing yourself to be a Spanish war dog of the early explorers. You really might be very smart – so go with what is discussed rather than being in attack mode!

        • The real Smart Guy

          ingersoncj Were I not attacked so immediately and viciously I’d have not felt the need to go on the offensive. I know these strings get get very long but if you’d have encountered what I did so quickly, merely for having a differing opinion, perhaps later posts would have been different. That said I also don’t accept opinion presented as fact in discourse and whenever I’ve asked people to back up their words with something resembling proof you’d have thought I’d committed the most egregious sin known to man. It’s sometime a choice of fighting back or running and I’m not a coward by any measure

        • ingersoncj

          The real Smart Guy ingersoncj doubtful any would consider anyone a coward – and hopefully you’ve found that there is much fact provided which is how I initially entered this thread – posting what was available from at least two separate reliable sources. My whole life has been in presenting documented information – however, maybe have gotten slack in that most who read my writings (which I do daily) know they’ve only to ask for footnotes (when writing for media long ago and far away) my editors asked for my content knowing that the homework had been done. Well good luck – and if you every need my footnoting (it’ll always be more than two sources and most likely a primary source and secondary) unless there are no primary sources in a language which I can read or have translated.

    • The real Smart Guy

      mjnellett BY the way, even your Bible says your morality is judged by how you treat the least, not even a real believer in your own Christ are you

  • mjnellett

    Smart guy, you are definitely NOT. You seem to be the one here calling everyone a liar. Challenging people’s credentials when you don’t even know who they are. Your ignorance about college graduate unemployment rates is astounding in light of all the data that is available to hear, see, and read. You do read don’t you? Your progressive pedigree is showing guy. You’re against religion, conservatives, the truth and just about everything progressives find inconvenient. By the way, calling a military vet out isn’t what I would consider to be a “smart move” on your part. If you go back and look at your own statements you just may find that you are the venomous one here. Jesus Christ is the most well documented person that ever walked the face of the earth. More has been written about Him than any other. Your atheism cannot change the fact of who He is, no matter how much it might grind on your godless soul. Have a nice life.

    • myaka

      mjnellett 
      Maybe this guy is another one of Obama’s plants to try to throw people off the truth. I have run into this before on this website…

  • mjnellett

    To get back to topic, Hillary Clinton did sign an e-mail rejecting a request from Ambassador Stevens for more security. The security detail that was in place, was PULLED out before the attack. Hillary lied to Congress about what she knew. Said, “what difference does it make?” She deserves a shot at the presidency…NOT!

    • Troubleshooter

      mjnellett She said she had never received a request for increased security.  The letter she signed, refusing to provide the additional security was signed a month before the attack.  I think that should have been plenty of time, and then, like you say, she reduced what they had even further.  That smacks of intent.

  • Troubleshooter

    What the hell happened to my Veterans Administration Verification of Benefits Letter that was up here for the last eight hours?  I was looking at it and it just disappeared.  Oh, I know.  Somebody got caught.  LOL. What an idiot.

  • KennethBowman

    Reminds me of Sargent Schultz of Hogans Heroes.   I know Nothing, NOTHING!

  • texasjo

    Can’t remember names, but a little boy told his father about being in heaven and his dad investigated and helped write “Heave is for Real.”  Buy the book or go to library, it was best seller.  And, there’s another more recent one of a scientist who came back…there’s plenty of material, but as my mother told me when I said “Mom, I wished I were alive when Jesus was on earth.”  And, she said “you probably wouldn’t believe him, as many thought him crazy, a heretic,  an imposter, better now because he has proved to be true.”  Mom was right…many are called, few are chosen.

    • PaulBrown1

      texasjo You are so right. Awhile back I wrote a piece called  ” A Meeting with God ” and that has gone over very well in my church and elsewhere.

  • myaka

    They are purposely promoting gay lifestyles. This has all gone way too far. I hear more and more about the outrageous things going on in our classrooms. If my kids were still in school, I would have a fit at that school and probably take them out.. Schools are indoctrinated so much and getting much worse shortly with Common Core. One step in communist take over of America they wrote is to destroy morals. make them like animals. Well, looks like they are doing it. It is just not right. Why can’t this crap be stopped? I heard Common Core was stopped in Ohio. That gives me hope, but I am so disgusted with Americans who voted for a guy they knew nothing about except he was cool. They knew absolutely nothing about anything as shown on videos where they taped asking simple easy questions at colleges and that not a clue about anything except they were voting for Obama because he is cool. Those people should not be allowed to vote if they are that ignorant. They are destroying America for good…done. did…

    • texasjo

      myaka I agree!  After Obama got re elected, I got ill.  I’m just now pulling myself together, but I can’t watch the news as much.  I give to Pro-Life associations, and write about it, but I’m not into politics the way I was before with my cheerful phone calls about how things were going to be better.  I can’t stand to think of what’s happening, so I go to facebook and talk to friends or watch TV (funny show, or anything to evade disaster).

      • myaka

        texasjo myaka 
        I know how you feel..I have been sick for over 4 yrs. Watching him slowly destroy our lives .The worst hasn’t hit yet.. I am even disgusted with fox news for not telling about the terrorist Obama sent back to Saudi Arabia, he was the first one caught but news never told about it. Glenn Beck has the documents to prove it and they are lying about it..we are in bed with Saudi Arabia. I think this guy, supposed to be expert at explosives..so I think he came here to help them build the bomb and then fly back home., my guess. Obama is hiding more than Benghazi.

        • Troubleshooter

          myaka texasjo Did you see the Beck statement that the Saudi who was deported (the one Moochie O visited in the hospital (he had shrapnell and bomb parts imbedded in the backs of his legs) IS THE SON OF OSAMA BIN LADEN?  The one they couldn’t find in the compound when they went after Osama?

        • myaka

          Troubleshooter myaka texasjo 
          I heard that he may be Bin Laden’s son. I don’t know if it is true.
          Yes, Mitchell O did visit him in hospital but did not visit the people hurt by this guy…they are on the terrorists side, not Americans.. They are using terrorists to make us except government control and police state. Very evil people. They do not care if people die, the only thing that matters to them, is their agenda and won’t be good for Americans at all.

      • PaulBrown1

        texasjo myaka I refuse to watch the news any longer, they only lie and tell you what THEY want you to hear. Tehy tell the demoncrap side of things in this world. They, like Ovomit push their own agendas.

    • LarryChambers

      In Hosea 4:6, Hosea writes, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
      Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you from being My priest.
      Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children.
      If we can’t see the handwriting on the wall it is over for us as a nation. We simply cannot continue to walk this path that will surely lead to our destruction. People can continue to think that some civil war or a revolution is the answer. It is not, and will only increase  in untold misery. God tells us how to advoid this in 2 Chron 7:14. Warning comes before destruction. The intesity of discipline increases as time progresses, until it reaches the point where God says no more. Psalms 32:6, Therefore, let everyone who is GODLY prayto You in a timeYou may be found; Surely in a flood of great waters they will not reach Him. The tentacles of evil have now encompassed the world. The stage is being set for God’s final discipline upon the nation of Israel and all those nations He will take vengence upon for their treatment of His people. All of this is playing right into God’s hand because at the final war(Armegeddon; the gathering) he will get them all in one place and destroy them. However, we the Church will long gone because we will be with Christ.

  • FestisFloyd

    And now they are trying to approve Birth Control Pills for kids 15 years old.  And on and on it goes.  What happened to family home life?  Has it become obsolete?

    • texasjo

      FestisFloyd “They” have been trying to dissolve the family for years.  Remember when the saying was “it takes a village?”  Fatherless families are the ones who get in most trouble and need our $$$ assistance, abortions, food stamps, etc.  Women want to become men in many instances.  No one is raising the children.

    • Troubleshooter

      FestisFloyd Pretty Much.  I’m just a “whack job conspiracy nut”, and as a Vietnam Era Veteran, I’m classified by Napppy as a Terrorist, but I believe it is part of an Agenda going back at least as far as the Great Depression.  After WWI, there were lots of children who ended up in Orphanages or Foster Care Programs, or Group Homes operated by Religious Orgs like The Catholic Church, etc.  They were exploited.  During WWII, the Men were pulled into the War Machine, and the Women took their places in the factories, and Rosie The Riveter, while serving a noble purpose, also gave birth to a defiant sisterhood of women who understandably, although in grave moral error so far as the effect on our nation, said “ain’t gonna stay home when I can work and git my own money instead of having to depend on some man”.  Of course, the government, through the Socialist Icon, FDR, all too happily supported that idea because it fueled the Spindletop Oil Boom Economy (thus Industry in general) AND broadened the tax-base, and gave the government far greater access and control of our children.  Combine that with alcoholism, drugs, sexual revolution, and more WAR, and here we are, FUBAR.

    • Evermyrtle

      FestisFloyd What happened to family home life? Well!!! It has been deteriorating for many years, How long ago has it been since we made baby murder legal?  and other such absurd  laws? AND THEN WE GOT OBAMA be the devious hands of the those responsible for making and backing the former absurd laws. Maybe someone else can give a better description than this. You still have time for others opinions if they dare quote them. Thanks for asking, gave me the opportunity to pass my opinion!!!

  • MKM1234

    All of you reading this article and the comments should watch the DVD titled AGENDA-Grinding America Down. It will be an eyeopener to some and a good refresh to others. Google Searce th title and you will be taken to a page where you will be able to download a free copy. Watch it-Please!

    • texasjo

      MKM1234 I’m watching it now…the free one offered for limited time…thanks.

      • MKM1234

        texasjo MKM1234 Thank you for watching – please forward to all your contacts – every partiotic American should watch it. mom

    • Drifanwulf

      MKM1234 The information contained in AGENDA-Grinding America Down needs to  be viewed by every American.

      • MKM1234

        Drifanwulf MKM1234 Thank You – that’s just what I’m trying to accomplish. mom