Genetically Modified Crops Protected By New Budget Bill


Genetically modified crops are not just those that have been selectively bred, but they have had their DNA modified in some way as to make them more pest resistant and produce better yields. In many cases genes from other plants or even bacteria have been added to the DNA of a specific plant.

This process has caused great concern among some that question whether the plants with modified genes are safe for human consumption or if there may be any long-term effects from the continual eating of these plants. There have been numerous challenges to the use of genetically modified crops in the marketplace.

Companies such as Monsanto often control the patents on these genetically modified crops, but like pharmaceutical companies do on their name brand drugs. In 2011, the genetically modified seed also known as biotech seeds business generated over $13 billion. Needless to say it has become a major player in the agricultural world, and these companies are starting to exert their influence in Washington DC.

Political Action Committees working on behalf of biotech seed companies have been making significant contributions to politicians in the last few years. According to one report, the contributions since 2009 have been:

  • 7.5 million for current members of Congress

  • $372,000 to members of this Senate Appropriations Committee

  • $71,000 to Senator Roy Blunt (R-MO), and Appropriations Committee member received more than any other member, and the second-most received by any senator.

Monsanto alone has contributed $540,000 towards campaign funds. American Crystal Sugar reportedly has contributed $3.3 million. Other biotech companies contributing to PAC’s include: Archer Daniels Midland, American Farm Bureau, Cargill, Minn-Dak Farmers Coop, National Cotton Council, Scott’s Miracle-Gro, Southern Minnesota Beat Sugar Coop, and Syngenta Corp.

That influence is so great that in the newly passed 2013 Continuing Resolution, which funds the federal government through the end of September, there contained a rider to protect companies like Monsanto. The rider known as the Monsanto Rider protects all genetically modified crops from any court order issued against their use. In other words if legal challenge to the safety of the use of any biotech seeds were to be raised in court, companies like Monsanto would be automatically issued a permit from the USDA allowing them to continue selling, cultivating, and planting the genetically modified crops in question.

Basically that means there is nothing that can legally be done to stop the biotech companies from producing, cultivating, and selling genetically modified crops that could be harmful to humans.

The rider was snuck into the budget bill by Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Normal procedure would dictate that such a rider would go through the Agriculture and or Judiciary Committees, but that did not happen in this case. Andrew Kimbrell, Executive Director of the Center for Food Safety commented about Mikulski’s actions, stating:

“In this hidden backroom deal, Senator Mikulski turned her back on the consumer, environmental, and fire protection in favor of corporate welfare for biotech companies such as Monsanto. This abuse of power is not the kind of leadership the public has come to expect from Senator Mikulski or the Democratic Majority in the Senate.”

With so much problem of obesity, diabetes, cancer, and heart disease, being linked to poor diets, Americans are urged to eat more fruits and vegetables every day. Are those fruits and vegetables really safe to eat? Are they the products of genetic modification of the plant DNA? Could there be any long-term effects from the daily eating of genetically modified foods?

These are questions you need to ask yourself, because even if proven harmful they are now protected by federal law and will continue to be planted harvested, and sold to consumers like you and me. Welcome to the world of biotech foods. Eat at your own risk!







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  • RaziWhitmaine

    Excellent article. Seems they would like to make it law that if Monsanto is poisoning us, they would legally be above retribution.

  • SharonJones1

    Grow your own. I am going to heaven. Will do whats right til i die.

  • MSGran

    If you don’t want the gubmint telling you what food you can eat and wht kind of seeds you can plant, you better start buying/saving all the heirloom seeds you can find.

    • Texan Texan

      MSGran there are no restictions on heirloom seeds but Michelle is a big advocate so you may want to re-think. She’s also big organic.

    • whisperatnight

      MSGranThe NWO has a SEED BANK in Greenland. I guess after they kill off the rest of us, they can go back to planting the GOOD SEED.

  • Kathleen46

    Is this mess just in the Senate version?   I’ll contact Cruz & Cornyn, but if this is coming from the House version we need strength of numbers.  I’m growing my own as much as I can (not much!), and I go to Whole Foods as often as I can afford it (not often!) but this has got to at least go a a “must be labeled” level!

    • Texan Texan

      Kathleen46 Whole foods. You know they are a commie pinko company. But they are amazingly green….they only have non netted fish, meat that is grass fed and close by. They pay employees a decent wage, benefits and health insurance. Immensely profitsble. CEO got in trouble for being quoted as opposing aobamacare but proved to not be true. Great company to support. They will phase out any GMO by 2014

  • SharonJones1

    Seeds…heirloom only

  • Doctor Love

    The practice of Eugenics (population control) through our food supply.  GMO foods cause infertility – FACT!

  • 7dalebinde

    GMO foods are safer than other foods

    • retbug tech

      7dalebinde Who’s payroll are you on ?  Do you work for the most evil company in the world ?

    • RaziWhitmaine

      7dalebinde 
      Web search
      “Monsanto GM corn caused tumors in rats”

  • Dennis Murphy

    If GMO food is so safe why is it being banned in countries all over the world?

    • carolrhill814

      Because the USA are bunch of idiots and will do anything for money not for the health of WE THE PEOPLE.

  • carolrhill814

    To me these products are dangerous for humans as well as the bees because they won’t go to them and they could very well die off because of these plants.

  • ThomasGentile

    I  HAVE  CALLED MONSANTO  AND  TOLD  THEM I WANTED TO KNOW  WHY THEY ARE POISONING  OUR  CROPS  .   ANSWER MAINE  SAID   LEAVE NAME  NUMBER ETC  WE  =   WILL GET  BACK TO YOU  > .  NOTHING !  CALLS   SENATOR    GRAHAM  NOTHING  > YOU   ELECTED GOVERNMENT    EMPLOYEE’S COULD CARE  LESS   /////////     YOUR  CHEMICAL  COMPANY’S    DO NOT  CARE /  WHAT THEY  >>>  THE AMERICAN PEOPLE  WHO  WORK  FOR THESE  CHEMICAL  COMPANY’S   WILL DIE  JUST  LIKE  US  . THAT IS WHY  I CONTINUE TO  SAY OVER AND OVER  THAT  THE AMERICAN  PEOPLE ARE STUPID  DUMB  IGNORANT  AND ILLITERATE  AND THAT IS  BEING  POLITE /

    • vette66

      ThomasGentile Get new glasses if you have to type in caps to see what you typed. Other than that, some of us just skip over all caps.

      • bigotist1

        I’M MONOCULAR AND USE CAPS TO AID IN TYPING/
        IF U DON’T LIKE IT, I WELCOME YOUR VISIT TO DISCUSS YOUR IGNORANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Texan Texan

          bigotist1 maybe Obamacare can fix that. Surely he’ll give yiu some effective glasses. Why would someone be ignorant questioning the use of all caps. It surely proves anyone who does not share your beliefs is ignorant. I’m hopeful Obamcare can help you.

        • gnafuasusual

          Texan Texan bigotist1  Look up Monocular Eye Disorder. No one has found a “cure” for it. Give the gent a break.

        • Texan Texan

          gnafuasusual Texan Texan bigotist1 aw you don’t know the power of Obamacare and how would one know that typing in all caps is due to an incurable disorder. He called the guy ignorant for questioning. My point everyone is ignorant who does not share his beliefs. Sounds like a middle school brat.

      • cricket3991

        vette66 ThomasGentile   thomas, please a little patience, a lot of older people use caps because they have a vision problem, and not all old people, some are young but have a hard time seeing little print.  It really is no harder to read than small letters.  think of others and you will be given consideration when you need it too.

    • carolrhill814

      I couldn’t agree with you more if I tried everything is about money in the USA.

  • Texan Texan

    Well at last some Conservatives and commie libs can agree in. Monsanto is a huge political influence. This exemption is gross and patently transparent. Lets start a boycott of Monsonto…a huge amou t of down stream companies. Much like Koch Bros downstream and explicit companies. We libs have been boycotting them for ages. I think this is something y can get Señor Cruz to champion. He already showed his balls opposing UN takeover of Texas golf courses. And guess what they are alive and getting huge state tax subsidies from Ooops Perry. Go crony capitalism.

  • 7dalebinde

    GMO foods are feared because the general population doesn’t understand them and all the mistruths floating around.

    • RobertKimble

      7dalebinde

    • whisperatnight

      7dalebinde GMO’S ARE CAUSING BREAST CANCER IN RATS. BUT, SINCE YOU ONLY WORRY ABOUT YOUR D., I GUESS THAT DOES NOT CONCERN YOU.

  • KenKirkham

    GMOs have been linked to the disappearance of bees worldwide.  Numerous studies show that when bees collect pollen from GMO plats that the bee’s immune system breaks down and the bees are then subject to a number of parasites and diseases that wipe out the hive.

    • gnafuasusual

      KenKirkham  In our area, alone, honey bees have nearly disappeared. Once thriving hives and now, zero!

  • 7dalebinde

    Europe and many other people thought the same about hybrid seed corn years ago, because they did not understand it. Now it is widely accepted, just like GMO’s will be in the future.

  • 7dalebinde

    Blameing GMO’s for the problem with bees is really farfetched

  • scorp3j

     http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/01/03/mark_lynas_environmentalist_who_opposed_gmos_admits_he_was_wrong.html

  • greenvan77

    This montThh’s “Mother Earth News”

  • MikeyParks

    Grab the pitchforks and torches! Let’s bring down the evil food producers!

  • wisewoman

    I brought up the subject of bills not being stand alone bills at a recent townhall meeting with Senator John McCain.  His reaction was that it will never happen.  I believe that is true AS LONG AS WE LET THEM DO IT that way.   I believe that each bill should be on one subject and that subject only, with no riders attached.  It is the only way that We The People can get some control over the way those who are supposed to be representing us spend our money.  When a bill has numerous other bills attached it is easy to sneak things unto a bill that we do not approve of. 
    I urge all of you to write to Sentator McCain, and others, and tell them that we do not want business as usual.

    • whisperatnight

      wisewoman The POINT HERE is that people and governments all over the world have been SAYING NO to MONSANTO, but guess who embraces them? THE WASHINGTON HO’S

  • MARYANN33

    Read the Primal Paleo book and Wheat Belly. These modified foods are so deadly… Stop them before it is too late. The White House eats only Organic non GMO foods…

  • gnafuasusual

    And, FDA is worried about people drinking non-pasteurized milk from cows that have not been loaded with all kinds of  harmful ‘medications!’ All the money that floats while Lobbying is ridiculous! This a hole FDA doesn’t care what the end results are as long as big money floats in for Big Pharma! Lobbyists are on top of that and billions of dollars are passed under the table for votes!! Even Chemo agents are approved by FDA and the majority of those agents are poisons that will actually kill a cancer patient. I need to read more about the products that are genetically altered. Right now, I feel like we have another Al Gore on our hands.

  • whisperatnight

    WASHINGTON HO’S SIGNATURES, LAWS, AGENCIES, VOTES UP FOR SALE TO WHOM EVER CAN PAY THE MOST.

  • JonDWeatherspoon

    Laws & rules didn’t stop citizens in other countries from getting the “modified” plants out.  There may come a time when we see the greenie/health food nutz do likewise in America.
    I raise a ton of edibles annually.  Mine are SAFE to eat!  I kinda prefer that over commercial products…ANY DAY!

    • Pollitically_Incorrect

      JonDWeatherspoon Hey Jon, liked what you say, pressed liked and it came up unliked. Something wrong here.

  • Patriot451

    Why is “Last Resistance” “Liberalism’s Last Nightmare”?  Why not Corporatism’s Last Nightmare (after all Monsanto isn’t “liberal”).  Why not “Totalitarianism’s Last Nightmare”?
    Liberals are just as ticked off as we are about drones, kill lists, phone tapping, wars designed to enrich corporate friends, and, particularly, all the namby-pamby whining going on these days by employees who won’t do their jobs and want to get paid for whining about their “religious” (more accurately, “political”) feelings.

  • ThomasMarr

    I’ve read about them. They are suing innocent farmers because bees are cross polenating their crops. Their crops are patent protected. They pretty much will be wiping out family farmers, so they suck and congress is right there sticking a knife in the farmers back.

    • SandyTrank

      ThomasMarr I’d like to see how they plan to control the bee’s ha ha

  • Thrasher

    This is beyond belief. People we need to rise up and resist this government tyranny. We have been overwhelmed with so much crap these past years its hard to know which battles to fight. Where do we start where do we go who cares about we the people? Neither Republican nor Democrap care about us. We need to care for us. These people are paid too much and want more and more. God help us all.

    • SandyTrank

      Thrasher You’re right and if we start taking responsibility for what we eat, we just may be able to drive them out of business. We first have to buy all the Heirloom and Organic seeds we can get and save all the seeds from what we grow.

  • whisperatnight

    With so many folks OPPOSED to MONSANTO and other LEFTIST AGENDAS, how do these LEFTIST keep getting elected? Are they PAYING OFF VOTERS? Or, is it MORE VOTER FRAUD?

    • Meatface

      whisperatnight There is a Rep in this mix who is getting paid big money look at long red slach.

  • 2drsdan

    To be able to PATENT plants that have the ability to force natural plants out of production through genetic engineering
    is not only giving them a MONOPOLY on the crop it’s stupid, particularly if the genetically engineered plant takes over
    and wipes out the nonengineered plant. Thats a kin to burning down the competition’s place of business and then saying
    “well business is business”

  • InDefenseOfChildren

    Those who think GMOs are inconsequential are ignorant fools!  In just one example: GMOs have altered the chromosomes in wheat which is now strongly implicated in increasing incidence of Celiac disease.  
    Just a few years ago genetic scientists thought if they mapped the human genome, they could solve most human health issues.  Now these same so called ‘scientists’ realize there are hundreds of thousands of signaling proteins called epigens which we know almost nothing about.  Monsantos is playing God with our food!  Yet by comparison, they know almost nothing about how foods contribute to health.  They only know how to modify foods to resist pests and mature to large visually apealing produce.  But essentially nothing about nutrient absorption and malabsorption caused by their errant GMO produce.  This legislation is a crime against society.  It’s no different than is an enemy snuck in and poisoned our water supply.   Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) is intellectually unfit to occupy her seat or be given any authority in these matters.

  • Pollitically_Incorrect

    They already did independent lab studies using GMO foods, and found gross tumor growth and cancers.  This was a 10 year study. The videos and photos are out there for anybody to see The EU is taking steps to ban GMOs. These foods are modified to be weed killer (Roundup) resistant and have pesticides mdoified into the DNA of the plant and engineered to not reproduce (hybrid seeds) so farmers need to buy another load of seeds every year. This is what people are ingesting, Monsanto lawyers were sueing farmers for patent infringemt because their crap seeds were being blown by wind, or carried by birds, animals, into independent farmers fields and growing along with the non-hybrid crops and actually getting away with it and mostly putting these farmers out of business if they didn’t use their seeds.
    I remember when Monsanto had around 7% or 9% (I don’t remember exactly) of the seed market back in the 70′s, now they control over 92%+ of the market. Monopoly backed by a Bill in Congress, are you kidding me? OK, so they want to protect the company that is slowly committing genecide on the American public. These morons in DC just don’t stop, it’s one thing after another, and another. Testing our patience are they? They are insuring the longevity of a company that will be eventually thrown out of Europe as a public health hazard. Nice….we should be jumping for joy.

    • lizardmansc

      Pollitically_Incorrect You are correct, Your words concerning the government, capture precisely, my perception that it IS the intention of the government to eliminate private propagation of ALL food by the general population. (See my post above).

      • Pollitically_Incorrect

        lizardmansc Pollitically_Incorrect Thanks, and what do you think of those 2 up there. Good comment there by the way (they must have been sitting next to each other). They still think the world is flat, what can I say.

  • ObamaDualer

    Rats were fed GMO’s for their lifetime. Previous studies stopped at 90 days. At 120 days tumors started to appear. Almost every rat had huge tumors before they died. Here’s a 2 1/2 mimnute video that shows the poor rats. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoTBXkHcikI

    • whisperatnight

      ObamaDualer SO, IT CAUSING BREAST CANCER FOR FEMALES. IF THAT IS NOT SERIOUS THEN I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS.

      • ObamaDualer

        whisperatnight ObamaDualer You’ve got that right. Avoiding GMO foods is really important if a person wants to stay healthy. 
        There is a documentary produced by Jeffrey Smith. It contains a number of charts that indicates the incidence of a variety of digestive diseases has doubled in the last 15 years since GMO’s have been introduced.

  • AFM99

    There is absolutely no evidence of any harm caused to a human being be a GMO.  This is fear mongering at it’s worst.

    • wdm

      AFM99 Which planet are you from? Shills like you are a disgrace.

    • lizardmansc

      AFM99 Perhaps you may want to consider pulling your head out of…. uh….. that is to say….. uh, the sand. Playing God is really foolish, approving of it, even more so.

    • ObamaDualer

      AFM99 Then eat up, my friend, eat up. 
      Meanwhile, check out the video I posted just below. Because it shoots a hole in your claim when it comes to rats in such a frightening way that one would be foolish not to take a second look. 
      There is also epidemiological evidence that since the introduction of GMO’s and their increased usage, that a variety of digestive diseases have also doubled in incidence in the US. Thus to claim there is “ABSOLUTELY NO evidence of ANY harm” is not correct.
      Before you try to move the goalposts, first admit you were wrong when you said there is absolutely no evidence of harm to humans.

      • AFM99

        ObamaDualer AFM99 
        As I stated there is no such evidence of any such harm but many examples of the good that GMO’s can produce in reducing world hunger.  Berezow and Campbell lay this out nicely in their recent book “Science Left Behind.”

        • Troubleshooter

          AFM99 ObamaDualer You are either Ignorant, A Liar, or just plain stupid.

        • AFM99

          Troubleshooter AFM99 ObamaDualer 
          Funny stuff.  Maybe you should actually read somthing with references and footnotes instead of all the garbage on the internets.

        • Troubleshooter

          AFM99 Troubleshooter ObamaDualer As a retired Editor and Publisher, and the author of several scholarly works (critics description not mine) who also served as Editor for the Legal Publications relied on by most of the United States, I probably have a bit more credibility with critical reading and research than you do.  You are obviously a SHILL, and now you have been identified as such.

        • AFM99

          Troubleshooter AFM99 ObamaDualer 
          Typical response from someone unable to answer the question – name calling.  You should take your own advice on finding the truth.  Approximately 75% of the food stuffs in our supermarkets contain GM ingrediants.  And there has never been any evidence proving harm to a single human being from a GMO.

        • ObamaDualer

          AFM99 Troubleshooter ObamaDualer How in the hell would we know if GMO’s are harmful when no human study has ever been conducted on its consumption??
          The food isn’t labelled! 
          Still, we have epidemiological studies that indicate several different digestive diseases have doubled since the introduction of GMO’s! 
          Obesity has also skyrocketed since the largest human experiment in history started being conducted on 300 million unknowing subjects.

        • scorp3j

          ObamaDualer AFM99 Troubleshooter  Post a link to your assertion that digestive diseases or obesity has doubled with GMO foods..from a well known trusted source…not a blog!

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j ObamaDualer AFM99 Troubleshooter sCorp, you’re not familiar with the CDC stats on obesity rates in the US every five years? It’s all over YouTube, where you can watch the changes on a map state by state over the years.
          You haven’t provided a “well known trusted source” but now you’re demanding it. LOL! I do my own research and don’t expect others to do my work for me, ie, “give me a link” which would mean I would have to spend my time for your benefit. 
          Watch the documentary “Seeds of Deception.” You can hit the pause button when the series of graphs appear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VknpuZhG9cE

        • Troubleshooter

          AFM99 Troubleshooter ObamaDualer Believe what you want.  I trust the research, and not Government research.  I have also watched the systematic loss of nutrients in foods sold in Supermarkets.  i don’t buy them there.  Haven’t for some time, and my health improves with every day i travel down the timeline away from my last Supermarket meal.  But you keep right on slurping int down.  We’ll be rid of morons like you that much sooner.

        • AFM99

          ObamaDualer AFM99 Troubleshooter 
          You are kidding me, right ??  This is the proof that GMO’s harm humans ??  Next thing you will be claiming that vaccines cause autism and irradiating foods causes them to glow in the dark.

  • gnafuasusual

    touchofclass2477  Cancer has reached “Epidemic Proportion!” Reason for this? I don’t know that it is GMO or simply bad eating habits or smoking, or drugs, but one reason has been found and that something is causing the immune systems to break down and not function properly. We do know that cancer loves sugar. What do techs give before a PET to see where cancer is located in the body? Glucose. The Glucose pin-points the cancer cells and doesn’t bother healthy cells. Is GMO products being eaten and causing the cells to go haywire? Cancer anyone? is a good question!

  • CommonSenseConv

    “There is absolutely no evidence of any harm caused to a human being be a GMO.”
    Uh-huh…kinda like Thalidomide in the 1950′s.  That worked out well, didn’t it?

    • SandyTrank

      CommonSenseConv Have at it and please report back in a few years and let us know you are still alive and well.

  • lizardmansc

    Genetic modification in ANY case seems to be a VERY bad idea. Crossing one plant with another by cross pollination has been done for a VERY VERY long time (since God made bees), so one would not be off base to consider it to be a natural phenomena. Better ideas through nature. Plants and animals NATURALLY improve desirable characteristics without the arrogance of men modifying the building blocks of life itself. Animal HUSBANDRY, and HORTICULTURE are tried and true methods of achieving such goals. Not only does genetic modification alter seeds and animals, the process places crop/food production EXCLUSIVELY in the hands of these self serving pirates. The ULTIMATE GOAL of government through the biotech seed onslaught seems to be prevention of heirloom seed availability to the general public. Controlling food and water resources removes self reliance and self determination from nearly everyone, but for those FEW who know how to forage find and purify water for survival. Though it would not be a shock to see a plan implemented to spray and kill of or render sterile wild plant species, I pray I AM wrong.
    Progressive liberals will call these thoughts paranoid, stupid, foolish and any number of other terms…naturally. Thinkers will at least consider the truth in them, which abounds… naturally.

    • SandyTrank

      lizardmansc This is why I am purchasing Heirloom seeds to be able to continue to grow a little of my own food and know what I am eating! I have been making my own bread for a few years now and will not eat store bought. There are only a few flours that are not bromated and King Arthur is what I use. If we get back to spending some time in the kitchen, we may just out smart the gov and live longer and be healthier so we won’t need their dumb health care! Can’t hurt to try!

      • lizardmansc

        SandyTrank lizardmansc I appreciate the information on the flour you’re using for bread… we’re makin’ our own bread too but I wanna try King Aurthur…. Hope we can find it in our neck of the woods.

        • SandyTrank

          lizardmanscI hope you can too, if not ask your store to start carrying it. Bromates in anything, often its flour, can cause weight gain and thyroid issues as it imitates iodine on the iodine receptors in your thyroid gland and when you have a regular tsh blood test, it will read normal when in essence it is a false reading. After learning this information, I asked my dr about it and he said it was correct so I don’t eat or buy bakery goods or anything like that. Since I did that, I have slowly lost almost 35 pounds and it has come off gradually and stayed off as my body began to do what it can do for itself. I am also going to try trellis gardening so I can grow more on a smaller area. They say we can grow tomatoes, squash, pumpkins and other things on a trellis and if its big fruit like winter squash, you have to support it and I thought bird netting would work for that. It’s an experiment but all I grew was organic and it was awesome. I still have one package of winter squash in my freezer. Gotta learn to can!

  • PatSias

    Not long ago…but as with many important articles they vanish quickly….Russia banned any import of American corn due to test results showing American GMO corn causes caner in rats over time. I saw the article on drudge & yahoo.

    • VictoriaBingham

      PatSias I think it’s time to move to Russia.

  • haditinsd

    Can’t think of a better place to have this bill than in the senate budget which has very little chance of making it through the house.
    Like many things I do believe there is a lot of fear mongering over genetically modified foods but on the other hand I don’t believe anybody should be exempt from damages they cause.

    • Kathleen46

      Oh!  I just figured this out!  Are you certain that this bill is in the Senate only?  I spent months nagging and writing my Senators during a fracas a year or so ago … to no avail, I might add, but we might get this thing stopped even before it goes to the House.  We just need the good guys to rescind the ammendment as proposed or at least demand labeling!  That would be the first step in dismantling the grip Monsanto has.

      • Wondering Woman

        Kathleen46 Monsanto is only a small part of the major problem of the new world order and that is a major problem to all of Planet Earth, which they plan to rule!  Look up AGENDA 21,  and codex alimentarius.   If you need more research to open your mind to how big the problem is look up  FM 3-39.40 which outlines the plan for Internment and Resettlement of Planet Earth’s population, and that resettlement may not necessarily be local or even continental.  This manual was put out by our government, which is totally infiltrated with new world order puppets – because we slept while they took over the RNC and the DNC and put their puppets in place.  Both parties have been ruled by the new world order for decades.  Let’s hope we haven’t awakened too late.

  • SandyTrank

    Animals in the labs are dying from eating this junk! I have purchased what they call vine ripened tomatoes thinking I would have a real tomato. WRONG, it wasn’t a real tomato. It looked like a real tomato but tasted horrible so money thrown in the trash. The sad part is that they are not required to label them and we can do something about that and that is to email call the main offices of grocery stores where we are regular shoppers and request they label GMO’s. I think if we ALL do it, we can at least have them labeled. FYI When you shop for fresh produce, the first number is critical. A “9″ is organic, a “4″ is conventionally grown and an “8″ is a GMO. Be a scan reader. As well, if we all refuse to buy them, that will speak loudly too.

    • Thomas Pawlenko

      SandyTrank Unfortunately, the grocers do not know what is GMO anymore than the public does. Since the product does not come with a label, even the stores can’t tell. However, tomatoes are not grown as GMOs in the US. There are only 8 food crops that are allowed to be sold int he US that can be GMO. Go to “Non-GOM project” to actually get the facts.

      • Troubleshooter

        Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank @SandyTrank, or anyone else who wants to know the scoop on GMO’S, Search “The Health Ranger”, or NaturalNews.com.  There is a lot more going on than Thomas Pawlenko seems to know.

        • Troubleshooter

          Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank No offense Thomas.

        • SandyTrank

          Troubleshooter Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank Ha ha I just told him that before I read your post! I get his newsletter and he does know. That is where I get my info.

        • Thomas Pawlenko

          Troubleshooter Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank LOL – I have been in the business for more than 30 years and in organic industry for 12. I have been battling GMOs long before most people even had heard of them.
          Like I said, check out the facts at nongmoproject.org . They even list the only crops that are allowed to be sold in the US that are GMOs.

        • Troubleshooter

          SandyTrank Troubleshooter Thomas Pawlenko Mike Adams is a pretty damned nice guy, and he really sticks his neck out to provide us with the Truth.

        • Troubleshooter

          Thomas Pawlenko Troubleshooter SandyTrank Well Thomas, do you honestly think that the Processed Foods Manufacturers are going to be honest in their labeling nd disclosure with regard to GMO’s and GMO byproducts that they use in the foods that consumers buy from them?

        • Troubleshooter

          Thomas Pawlenko Troubleshooter SandyTrank For instance, CORN OIL, since there is NO OIL in Corn?

      • SandyTrank

        Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank I don’t know about your grocer but mine does. The head of produce said the fruit etc is GMO in the winter. Fresh produce out of season is most likely GMO. Our scan numbers are available on the price ticket and they DO tell what is what. You need to sign up for Nature News, you don’t have the current number of GMO sold here. It is even in canned food and ALL corn is GMO.

        • Thomas Pawlenko

          SandyTrank Thomas Pawlenko Sorry Sandy but if someone tells you that ALL corn is GMO they are either lieing to you or intentionally misinforming you. ALL Organic and ALL non-gmo verified products including corn are not from GMO crops. Same goes for soy and all of the 8 crops approved to be sold in the US.
          I am part of the National Cooperative Grocers Assn and we have been fighting for proper labeling at the national level for years. I think that we have a clue about the facts on this one.

        • SandyTrank

          Thomas PawlenkoPerhaps you do but so does the Health Ranger and I know about his work so I trust him. Go to Natural News and talk to him.

        • Wondering Woman

          SandyTrank Thomas Pawlenko Soy beans went totally GMO long before corn did  This is why I avoid all soy products, including soy oil!

        • Wondering Woman

          Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank According to The Tennessean Newspaper last year 1/4th of last years crop in our eastern corn belt area was expected to be GMO seeds and expand to totally GMO in the next 3 years.
          This same article also said that Monsanto released their GMO grass seed last year.  One wonders why they are out to make our wildlife extinct, while at the same time proclaiming that the animals have the right to sue humans in court.
          Their only true concern seems to be in reducing life forms on Planet Earth, including the human being.  Since reading the reports on how toxic the GMO produce is to the study creatures, I have wondered if the produce is so toxic to animals, could it be toxic pollen from those GMO plants that has decimated our friendly little pollinators, the honey bees?  The problem  with the bees started shortly after the GMO soy bean crops hit the fields.

        • SandyTrank

          Wondering Woman SandyTrank Thomas Pawlenko Good idea. I was told it was so good for me so I did try drinking egg nog soy a few Christmas’ ago but it just wasn’t anything I was crazy about so I guess that was a good thing! Thanks for telling me. I have been using organic olive oil lately and just happened to think, I love cornbread with my chili. Guess that is something I should rethink too. Do you read Natrual News from the Health Ranger? It was recommended reading from friends of mine and he really seems to know a lot of stuff and has a lab and tests all the ingredients for his vitamins and all. Just wondered what you think of him. I guess I better plan on a bigger garden this year!

        • SandyTrank

          Wondering Woman Thomas Pawlenko SandyTrank I wondered about the bees too. We do need them and you can’t control them or the wind. Well, just have to do the best we can.

  • Thrasher
  • Thrasher
    • Wondering Woman

      Thrasher Guard your seeds well, Thrasher.  Word is out that Monsanto plans to rule Planet Earth’s seeds in the future.  They also plan to make it illegal for anyone to save seeds from their own seeds from one year to the next.  If you haven’t already figured this one out – the goal is to reduce the worldwide population by 90% and they can’t do that if we can avoid eating their GMO produce, can they?????

      • SandyTrank

        Wondering Woman Thrasher That’s right! Agenda 21 again. I started saving seeds last year to try to prepare for this event. Sounds like a good web site..

      • scorp3j

        Wondering Woman Thrasher  Stop with the stupid Alex Jones Conspiracy theories..get real! How can you believe that paranoid moron?

  • CharlieSeattle

    I can see where this will lead.

    It’s the year 2025. A Monsanto genetically
    engineered child made to specification, male, green eyes, Black Hair, tall,
    high IQ and with a super immune system ala a patented Monsanto genetic
    engineered process.
    Let’s assume Monsanto does not think ahead and
    makes the first child capable of reproducing, like the soybean seed in
    question.
    Later the grown up Monsanto genetically
    engineered child has children from his own, from his enhanced Monsanto
    genetically engineered sperm. Male or female but with green eyes, Black Hair,
    tall, high IQ and with super immune system. Fully traceable to the patented
    Monsanto genetic engineered process.
    Can Monsanto sue to have the court kill the
    genetically engineered children to deny them to the new parents that did not
    pay Monsanto to repeat the patented process?
    Can Monsanto claim the children, grand children
    and great grand children as slave labor?
    Can Monsanto patent life?

    • Troubleshooter

      CharlieSeattle @CharlieSeattle; they already have patented life; at this point, as far as we KNOW, only plant life.

  • Evermyrtle

    I can’t begin to imagine what they will be trying to feed us, next, our stomachs I mean! They already are trying to poison our minds. We must watch our p’ and our q’s to keep our minds form going anti-GOD liberal.

    • Wondering Woman

      Evermyrtle They have also been poisoning your food supply and water supply for decades.  If you disagree, google “names monosodium glutamate is hidden under” and print it out.  Then go into your kitchen and read ingredients listed on everything in there that you eat, drink, or chew looking for those bogus names – and don’t forget to read the labels on the raw meats that you cook also.  If you don’t think that monosodium glutamate (MSG) and aspartame are toxins, google “excitotoxins” and educate yourself.  Like it or not, WE ARE WHAT WE EAT!!!  Wehn we eat toxic foods, we are toxic and in poor health until we die from it!

      • scorp3j

        Wondering WomanEvermyrtle 
         MSG has been used for more than 100 years to season food. During this
        period, extensive studies were conducted to elucidate the role, benefits
        and safety of MSG. At this point, international and national bodies for
        the safety of food additives consider MSG safe for human consumption as
        a flavor enhancer…

  • Troubleshooter

    Well, we all know that there Is SOMETHING that can be done.  When people are fed up enough, it probably will.

  • truthseeker53

    Shame on y’all! Monsatan is the salt of the earth. Why they’re “feeding the world”! You know they only have our best interests at heart and wouldn’t possibly do anything to harm us.

    • SandyTrank

      truthseeker53 Surely you jest…

  • PaMom4Palin

    Ssmfarley777 Makes me sick! #monsanto is winning yet again ….#Agenda21!

  • Kathleen46

    I’m new to this site and now I’ve forgotten who posted the comment about this bill is in the Senate.  That was my original question.  Confirmed?

  • kaci

    another law to be abolished…

  • sonmist7

    Nan33S we are being genetically altered from every angle. Mindcontrol to top it all of

  • greenvan77

    The current issue of “Mother Earth News” takes on the subject under the title “Longest-Running GMO Study Finds Tumors in Rats”, drawing upon an extensive recent French study and giving a decent synopsis of the results, which were published in “Food and Chemical Toxicity”.  The French Scientists used strict scientific protocol, with control groups of rats and evaluated several conditions of exposure on both sexes; in short, the effects are very bad, producing “”severe adverse health effects, including mammary tumors and kidney and liver damage, leading to premature death” from Roundup-Ready corn and Roundup herbicide, whether they were consumed separately or together.”  The picture from the report and accompanying the article is horrifying.  I really think as consumers we are well advised to avoid foods treated with these chemicals … if that is all possible at this stage.

    • Wondering Woman

      greenvan77 Wholeheartedly agree with you, but FDA & USDA both have different plans.  They are not going to make them label the GMO produce so that those of us who would like to avoid them cannot, because they will not be properly labeled.  This is not happening by accident, and they are planning to make it more difficult to avoid the toxins in our food supply and water.

  • flyovercindy

    Corporate take-over of America and our government continues… this one is particularly insidious because it basically can be poisoning the world…  
    Put pressure on your representatives – at the VERY least!  More importantly, buy/invest in seeds – heirloom, UN-MODIFIED seeds and grow as much of your own food as you can!

  • scorp3j

    GMO foods are the most tested foods in all of humanity. It takes decades to
    bring this food to market. Yet people have no problem buying so called certified
    Organic food from Mexico and China. Consuming it and not asking how it was
    produced in these countries is never questioned…Scientifically, the term
    “organic food” is meaningless…According to recent data compiled by the U.S.
    Centers for Disease Control (CDC), people who eat organic and “natural” foods
    are eight times as likely as the rest of the population to be attacked by a
    deadly new strain of E. coli bacteria (0157: H7). This new E. coli is attacking
    tens of thousands of people per year, all over the world. It is causing
    permanent liver and kidney damage in many of its victims. The CDC recorded 2,471
    confirmed cases of E. coli 0157: H7 in 1996 and estimated that it is causing at
    least 250 deaths per year in the United States alone.
    Consumers of
    organic food are also more likely to be attacked by a relatively new, more
    virulent strain of the infamous salmonella bacteria. Salmonella was America’s
    biggest food-borne death risk until the new E. coli O157 came along.

    • Wondering Woman

      scorp3j   Surely you don’t believe what you said.  If so, please look up the study India did on GMO produce before spreading your misinformation again.  India outlawed all Monsanto GMO seeds after finding that their study creatures produced no more litters after 3 generations.  This is called extinction, or in the human being – genocide.
      France recently released the results of the longest study on GMO produce.  Look up their study and take a good look at those poor hiedously deformed creatures with their tumors and cancers.  If you are energetic and brave enough to do this, I don’t think you will ever think GMO products are well studied and safe for human consumption.
      Monsanto, for instance, released their GMO grass seed despite many complaints from farmers that their livestock had increased problems, while eating them – including increased spontaneous abortions.

      • SandyTrank

        Wondering Woman I agree! I read on Nature News that when cattle are offered organic vs gmo, they will choose the organic every time. It was also interesting to fine out and Cool Whip lovers hate to hear that if you on a hot day put an open container of the stuff outside, even the ants and flies won’t touch it. When we buy Certified Organic, we can be fairly certain it is safe and that is what I buy. I would rather have less food and have it to be real food than overstocks of gmo

        • scorp3j

          SandyTrankWondering Woman So your taking advice from a cow?..Google Certified Organic.and how and what they use to fertilize organic crops.. Certified Organic. is 5x more dangerous to eat than GMO foods..You have been eating GMO foods for the last 15 years, and nobody has ever, ever gotten sick from it..Consumers of
          organic food are also more likely to be attacked by a relatively new, more
          virulent strain of the infamous salmonella bacteria. Salmonella was America’s
          biggest food-borne death risk until the new E. coli O157 came along.

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j SandyTrank Wondering Woman I’ve been eating organic for 8 years now and healthier than I’ve ever been. Cattle when given a choice will not choose gmo. They can tell what is good and what isn’t. I recently began growing organic food and it tastes better, just like homemade bread tastes better than store bought.You can enjoy gmo’s I prefer organic and as long as real food is available, that’s all I plan to eat.

        • Troubleshooter

          SandyTrank scorp3j Wondering Woman Isn’t interesting how this site places one’s posts in “pending” status, and then they just evaporate?  I am seeing more and more evidence that this site is a net.

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j SandyTrank Wondering Woman @scorp3j; you can’t be that stupid, so let me make it official, you are either INSANE or a LIAR, just my opinion.

        • Evermyrtle

          scorp3j SandyTrank Wondering Woman This is one of those times that I wish I could click and vote against a comment. This is totally insane!!

        • Evermyrtle

          Troubleshooter scorp3j SandyTrank Wondering Woman Normally, I dislike such a hateful comment. I must say this one is right in line with the truth.. You are right Troubleshooter!!

      • scorp3j

        Wondering Womanscorp3j 

         Lynas concludes that people who want to stick with organic are entitled
        to—but they should not stand in the way of others who would use science
        to find more efficient ways to feed billions. “[T]he  GM debate is over.
        It is finished. We no longer need to discuss whether or not it is safe.
        … You are more likely to get hit by an asteroid than to get hurt by GM
        food,” he says.
         http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/01/03/mark_lynas_environmentalist_who_opposed_gmos_admits_he_was_wrong.html

    • ObamaDualer

      scorp3j No, GMO foods aren’t the most tested at least not for safety. The FDA requires no testing.
      People have eaten organic food since the beginning of mankind. Yet man has survived for millions of years. Only in the last 100 years has mankind been exposed to nonorganic foods. 
      In the last 15 years we’ve begun being exposed to GMO’s. Since that time a variety of digestive ailments have doubled in terms of incidence rates. Obesity has also spiked in those years.

      • scorp3j

        ObamaDualerscorp3j..GMO crops [and these] technologies have been more widely tested than any
        other food product that came before them in history. They are very widely
        tested, not just here in the U.S., but in Japan [and] in Europe. … 
         http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/harvest/viewpoints/issafe.html

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j ObamaDualer If it is so “good” why do they refuse to tell us when we are eating it and giving US the choice to indulge or not?? Is this America or no?

        • OhioFarmer

          scorp3j ObamaDualer You better get your facts straight.  One of the Japanese deputy Ministers of Agriculture told me that Japan would import only non-gmo if they could find it.  Chinese importer told me that the gmo-corn is used for industrial use reather then for livestock feed.  He also stated that gmo corn was the biggest barrier to increased Chinese imports.  When asked what would change their view of gmo crops, they said it has not been tested enough to prove it is safe.  They also said it the political pressure and lack of non gmo corn and beans why they import gmo.

        • scorp3j

          OhioFarmer scorp3j ObamaDualer  That’s only hear say..provide a link please..
          Thanks..

        • OhioFarmer

          scorp3j OhioFarmer ObamaDualer Those were face to face over dinner discussions.  so there is no website.

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j ObamaDualer @scorp3j; tested as weapons in genocide maybe.  You poor fool.

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j ObamaDualer Sorry but what you wrote is malevolent spin. Most of the testing is done by Monsanto and it doesn’t get published when it is unfavorable to Monsanto’s interests. Monsanto has REFUSED to cooperate with many attempts to have their products tested independently.
          Watch the video I posted yesterday. It’s the FIRST study to go beyond 90 days. The tumors started showing up at 120 days.  
          Monsanto fights consumer choice. As consumers we should be told ON THE LABEL if a food contains GMO foods so that we can choose whether we want to eat it or not. How in the hell can we study the effects of what GMO’s are doing to humans when the food isn’t even labeled?

        • SandyTrank

          ObamaDualer scorp3j Like I said before, if it’s so “good” for us how come they can’t be honest and tell us so we the people can decide whether or not to eat it. It’s like gov doing what’s best for us and saying everybody eat spinach and put it in every can with carrots and peas on the label! Anything good for us by who’s standard?

        • scorp3j

          SandyTrank ObamaDualer scorp3j ..Because Labels on GMO food imply a warning about health effects, whereas no
          significant differences between GMO and conventional foods have never been
          detected. If a nutritional or allergenic difference were found in a GMO food, current FDA regulations require a label to that effect.

        • KenKirkham

          scorp3j SandyTrank ObamaDualer 
          Do you actually believe that the gov is interested in safety?  They suppress any negative findings.  If you trust the FDA you deserve everything they are doing to you.

        • scorp3j

          KenKirkham scorp3j SandyTrank ObamaDualer  I don’t trust  anybody. But you tell me who has ever died or has gotten sick from eating GMO foods in the last 14 years that it’s been in your cereal and in almost everything you have been eating..

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j SandyTrank ObamaDualer The FDA has NEVER required  GMO foods to be proven as safe. NEVER! The FDA has ASSUMED they are safe. 
          Michael Taylor the former vp of Monsanto is now working once again at the FDA in charge of food safety. Hmmm?? It’s the fox guarding the hen house.

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j KenKirkham SandyTrank ObamaDualer How inh the hell are we supposed to name someone who has been killed by GMO’s when the products don’t aren’t even labeled as such?? It’s obvious you’re getting paid to defend the indefensible. How do you sleep at night!
          Meanwhile there are millions of people who have been made sick from this and died from it too. GMO food has been shown to be harmful to livestock repeatedly as well. You can ignore it at your peril if you wish.
          But getting paid to defend this poison is beyond the pale.

        • scorp3j

          ObamaDualer scorp3j SandyTrank ..Wrong again!! For almost two decades FDA has been studying genetic modification
          techniques for drug-biologic development, as well as the development of
          new foods, and the Agency has carefully developed policies to
          accommodate the changing and evolving world of biotechnology. The
          evidence shows that we are meeting our goal of ensuring that these new
          products meet the same safety standards as traditional foods.
          http://www.fda.gov/newsevents/testimony/ucm115032.htm

        • Troubleshooter

          ObamaDualer scorp3j SandyTrank @ObamaDualer; I think you are wrong; The FDA has not ASSUMED that GMO’s are safe.  They just took the effing money and looked the other way like all government regulatory agencies do with every effing thing else.  We are sold out every day in every way by just about every son of a b*i*t*c*h working for or running the lying, thieving government.

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j SandyTrank ObamaDualer I don’t think so!! Labels on food tell us the consumer what is INSIDE the container! You don’t think we have right to know what we are buying or eating?

        • SandyTrank

          ObamaDualer scorp3j SandyTrank Absolutely Correct obamadualer

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j ObamaDualer SandyTrank Well as*s*h*o*l*e, you slipped up,  “WE” are meeting our goal….blah. blah. blah.  You sorry pieces of crap just can’t help but tell everyone how proud you are to be a pig.  Problem is, people don’t forget, and now you have identified yourself as an enemy of the people.  Enjoy your stupidity, pig.

        • scorp3j

          Troubleshooter scorp3j ObamaDualer  Get educated before commenting, you’re making yourself look like an idiot..

        • scorp3j

          SandyTrank ObamaDualer scorp3j  Do you eat Certified Organic Foods?   Do you know what is used as a  fertilizer?

        • OhioFarmer

          Troubleshooter ObamaDualer scorp3j SandyTrank I read the FDA approval for Bt corn.  It stated that: It is assumed to be safe until proven otherwise based on the applying companies research.  The approval procedures put in place back in Bush 1 and Clinton’s terms in office preclude the FDA from requiring test for safety.   All I want is them to have the 3rd party research with all the data published.  Only when that is done, will this be put to rest and we can move on to more important problems facing us like energy and world peace.

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j SandyTrank ObamaDualer I’m sure you have witnessed personally what they use. I don’t eat a lot of certified organic food but certified organic shampoo etc. I grow some of my own food and buy grass fed beef and free range chicken. Don’t eat a lot of meat either or fish. I don’t use any fertilizer to grow my garden and it produces just fine.

  • CharlesHigley

    Genetically modified foods are not harmful. It would make no sense for them to grow foods that harm the consumer, as then they would be out of business. We can alter genes just by selection, producing new strains and mutations. There is no real difference between breeders and modifiers, the latter is just faster.

    • SandyTrank

      CharlesHigley When you know that under Agenda 21 it states that the world population must be decreased by 85% to not stress mother earth, it makes perfect sense.

    • ObamaDualer

      CharlesHigley Nonsense from start to finish. It might not make sense but it names cents for Monsanto to the detriment of consumers.

    • ET53

      CharlesHigley Mendelian selecting for desired traits does NOT splice genes from bacteria or other organisms into the DNA of a plant. That plant is now a totally new organism that nature has not formed and which does cause an  unknown reaction in the environment, including in humans who consume large quantities of GM seed products.

      • scorp3j

        ET53 CharlesHigley ..Genetic modification is not novel. Humans have been altering the genetic makeup of plants for millennia, keeping seeds from the best crops and planting them in following years, breeding and crossbreeding varieties to make them taste sweeter, grow bigger, last longer. In this way we’ve transformed the wild tomato, Lycopersicon, from a fruit the size of a marble to today’s giant, juicy beefsteaks.

        • ashforkdan

          scorp3j ET53 CharlesHigley I would say that its not a beef stake but a pork chop,since they use pigs DNA in them.I wounder if the muslims know that?

        • scorp3j

          ashforkdan scorp3j ET53 CharlesHigley ..Good idea, I love BLT’s

      • cyoder

        ET53 CharlesHigley Totally new, no. Just new in one characteristic. In all other ways, nothing has changed.

    • VictoriaBingham

      CharlesHigley If GMOs were not harmful, why then does the industry need protection from lawsuits? The same thing was done by the vaccine industry.  They had Washington immunize them (pun intended) from legal retribution for their dangerous products. GMO producers learned from them. Good products need no such protective armor.

      • Troubleshooter

        VictoriaBingham CharlesHigley Thank you VictoriaBingham.  Perfectly Stated, and perfectly obvious to anyone who wants to see the facts, which of course, is not the case with these knuckleheads who want to sleep with Barack.

  • scorp3j

    French GMO Research on Health in Rats Debunked

    Posted on http://foodfarmfork.authorsxpress.com/2012/10/09/french-gmo-research-on-health-in-rats-debunked/

    The Scottish National Health Service provides an information
    service to the public on a range of health issues and recently commented
    in detail on the questionable research by the University of Caen which
    claimed that GMO corn in the diet of rats led to increased premature
    death. The Scots found three major flaws in these results.

    http://foodfarmfork.authorsxpress.com/2012/10/09/french-gmo-research-on-health-in-rats-debunked/

    • http://www.longlifechoices.blogspot.com/ servant

      scorp3j There’s no position somebody takes and will so will report, that IS favorable to the one who funds the research! Look at tobacco, look at saturated fats, look at the wine industry that says it good for you! {You get the greater benifits from 100% grape juice, without the liver-killing alcohol!]
      Corruption breeds corruptions

  • Public_Citizen

    Monsanto is protected but there is no protection for the farmers whose crops are ruined by Monsanto “bad seed” pollinating their plants so that they won’t reproduce correctly.  Then Monsanto ruins their business with massive lawsuits for “stealing” the Monsanto produced pollutant.  Monsanto has spent decades and untold millions of dollars in development of seed that will not reproduce healthy stock after the first generation so the farmer becomes a sharecropper on the Monsanto plantation.

    • ET53

      Public_Citizen You have it exactly right.

  • Wondering Woman

    Wonder if our esteemed legislators in Washington, DC have figured out a way to exempt themselves from eating the GMO produce?  Didn’t take them anytime at all to exempt themselves from Obamacare shortly after someone asked if they would be abiding under the same plan they have for us.
    They learned something from that bill though.  Diane Feinstein wrote into her gun control plan that the legislators would be exempt from abiding under it.  Isn’t it amazing how the assault  rifle they wanted to ban morphs into a defense weapon when the government or the legislators have it in their hands????
    Welcome to the new America where our elected officials have a different set of laws than we lowly plebians!

    • sideng58

      Wondering Woman
      “Tyranny is when the government retains rights for themselves that they deny to the people”– Thomas Jefferson

  • ceecal

    I keep hearing of babies and young children getting tumors and different types of canser lately I think it is becaue the baby fromula is full of soy and most of is from GMO plants

    • Wondering Woman

      ceecal The truth is even worse than you have heard.  To find out how bad it is, type “names monosodium glutamate is hidden under” in your search window and be prepared to print it out because it is much too long to memorize quickly.  Take that into your kitchen and read ingredients listed on everything you eat, drink or chew.  If you do not know the danger of monosodium glutamate (MSG), type the word “excitotoxins” into your search window and you will learn that they are called excitotoxins because the EXCITE the neurons or cells of your brain and central nervous system to DEATH.  Aspartame is the second big excitotoxin our food chain is laden with but it has fewer names to remember than does MSG.
      For those who are really interested in understanding the problem, search Metabolic Syndrome X and you will find that a Dr. Reavens came up with the theory a few decades ago, that adult onset diabetes was not a disease that stands alone, but just a later phase of a syndrome.  Despite ridicule and derision from other doctors, he spent 20+ years to prove his theory beyond doubt.  The fact that I found this on line, not in any medical  journals, tells me that orthodox medicine refused to print it and hoped it would die a natural death, from their suppression.  Several years after he put this information on line, orthodox medicine, realized that it wasn’t going away and changed the types of diabetes mellitus from Juvenile Onset and Adult Onset (mainly because there was information leaking out that we had increasing numbers of toddlers being diagnosed with what they called Adult Onset DM).  Now they are calling it Diabetes Mellitus, types 1 and type 2 and have renamed  Dr. Reavens Metabolic Syndrome X and calling it Insulin Resistance.  Sad to say, but never once do they mention Dr. Reavens brilliance in recognizing and proving the cause of the problem.  The only possible reason I can come up with for this omission, is that they are still hoping that no one will make the connection between Dr. Reavens Metabolic Syndrome X and Insulin Resistance and realize that Diabetes Mellitus had been misnamed, misdiagnosed and mistreated all these years since before my grandfather died of adult onset diabetes and its complications in 1946.  Unless they have changed treatment since I retired, they are still mistreating it, and I am sure they are because I have talked with several people (both young adults & seniors) who are still being treated with oral hypoglycemic pills.  
      For those who like the information handed to them, when you research Metabolic Syndrome X and Insulin Resistance, you will find that phase 1 of both is excessive insulin production, and the rest of the phases are the same for both.  If you understand that the oral hypoglycemics they are treating it with supposedly work to lower blood sugar by making the pancreas gland kick out more insulin, you will probably come up with the same question I did.  What idiot with one eye and half sense would treat a medical problem that begins with excessive insulin production, with a pill to make them produce even more insulin????  To make matters worse, at least two of those oral hypoglycemics (according to at least one research study) destroy the renal (kidney) cells, which probably explains why most renal dialysis patients are diabetics
      If you have looked up those excitotoxins and really understand what you found, you will have learned that 2 of those excitotoxins that are heavily laden in our foods and drinks (MSG and aspartame) just happen to make our pancreas glands kick out excessive insulin, which is the initial phase of DM type 2.  Phase 1 of excessive insulin triggers the hypercholesterol, obesity, hypertension, diabetes type 2 and all the cardiovascular/renal problems that follow.  According to neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock in his book “Excitotoxins:  The Taste That Kills” it also explains the skyrocketing of Alzheimer’s Disease Lou Gehrigs disease (ALS), epilepsy, Parkinson’s disease, and brain tumors and cancers, headaches of all varieties, etc.
      Look beyond the fact that getting these 2 products off the market would decimate the medical field, and realize who is controlling what is taught our medical students in medical school and who controls how those doctors are allowed to practice medicine (and who defines the guidelines of what is good medical practice).
      Some doctors who realized that orthodox medicine was causing more medical problems, turned their backs on orthodox medicine and entered what is now called alternative medicine.  The ones behind what is being taught to the medical students are the same ones behind having the FDA raid the alternative doctor’s clinics and harass them in every possible way, whether legal or not.  They are also the same ones behind having the FDA raid the Amish farmers and others selling raw milk, for the same purpose.  The object would seem to be to make it impossible for any of us to obtain healthy food/drink and to avoid the toxins, GMO produce, or to find a doctor that is willing to put up with the hassle of fighting Big Brother, because few of them have the money to fight the FDA in one lawsuit after another.
      Before you get too riled up about your doctors, ask yourself how you would react, if when you went into private practice and found it was not what you thought it was, but you also found yourself with a $50-100 thousand loan made to afford medical school, still to be paid off, and the only thing you are trained to do is medical care and you find that you have to practice medicine their  way or they will do their best to destroy you professionally.
      For all of you who are rejoicing that coca cola is now using truvia (stevia) in their diet drinks, let them know that you are onto their devious tricks.  Research truvia and you will find the safe sweetener stevia is mixed with more of those unsafe ones.  For instance, I recently bought a box of Stevia packets.  Didn’t read the ingredients on the package until I got home and was putting it up.  It went back to the store instead of getting put up in my kitchen because it listed ingredients as Stevia and natural flavors, which is one of those bogus names for MSG.  I did tell them why I was returning it and that they would be losing business on it if they didn’t get a brand that did not have toxins in it.
      You are the first line of defense in health care for yourself and your loved ones and what you eat and drink determines how healthy you are going to be, now and in the future.  A good source for what you should eat can be found in a book titled “The Carbohydrate Addict’s Healthy Heart Program”, by Richard & Rachel Heller and cardiologist, Dr. Vagnini.  It is also easier to understand than orthodox medicine’s diabetic diet with its exchanges.

      • RobertKimble

        Wondering Woman ceecal 
        Why?  Our own government is actually killing us.  They are no different than other tyrannical regimes of the past.

  • OhioFarmer

    Do you remember a time that industry claimed hydrogenated was not a health risk?  You know the researchers at the University of Maryland we attached by the Federal Government claiming their research was wrong.  Then when others duplicated it and got the same results, industry did everything possible to keep them from publishing and attacked them on every level to turn the public against them.  How many of you GMO supporters still believe hydrogenated oil is not a health rick????????  I see history repeating itself now.

    • TexasOlTimer

      OhioFarmer AMD (Archer Daniels Midland) is the biggest producer of corn. They’ve lobbied millions to get rid of sugar (bad bad stuff, don’t ya know?) so that manufacturers will use corn products to sweeten foods instead of sugar. Hawaii no longer produces that “pure cane sugar from Hawaii” that we grew up with. If you read labels on food, you’ll see that corn in some form – and sometimes more than one – is in everything from cornstarch in salt (to keep it from caking) to sweeteners in medication. One study I read stated that 90% of today’s corn is modified. Is it any wonder that we have massive health problems with this one product?
      For foods that are “sugar free” many have corn in them in place of sugar (leaving the label truthful but misleading) and others have sugar substitutes that are nothing but chemicals.

    • Evermyrtle

      OhioFarmer  PROBLEM: We do not have a government now, who is interested in protecting American citizens.

  • greenvan77

    It used to be, you paid your money and you were able to choose between alternatives; that is not always the case anymore.  Corn is a particularly aggressive pollinator, so if there are two adjacent fields – one GMO, one non-GMO – the food product that results is more a product of chance and wind direction than farmer’s intent. 
    Have there been any studies to show how far up the processing chain the characteristics of the two types (broad stroke) can be detected?  Can you detect any differences attributable to parent in corn syrup, flour and oil?  All of which are components in other foods ….

  • outdamngovt

    Genetically altered food = genetically altered population?

  • VictoriaBingham

    GMO industry being protected by unjust law.  What does that remind you of?  Why the VACCINE industry of course.
    The common link?  Both industries are producers of harmful goods. If not, they would not need protection from just legal recourse.  
    Your best response:  Do everything in your power to avoid both GMOs and VACCINES.  They are equally harmful to the health of you and your families.  Make no mistake about it.

    • Evermyrtle

      VictoriaBingham That reminds me of the flu vaccine. what is put into that thing, if you knew you would refuse to allow it to be pumped into your body. I had one about 30 years ago  and not one since.That is about the time that I had my only bout with the flu. It has been proved that the those that take the shot have only a very small percentage of drop in the number of cases.

      By THE GRACE OF GOD I HAVE ONLY ONE BOUT WITH THE FLU IN MY LIFE AND ONE FLU SHOT.

    • The Bee

      VictoriaBingham Obviously you know nothing about polio, or small pox…. just two hideous diseases wiped out by vaccines.  While I personally am not in favor of the flu vaccine, or the vaccine for sexually transmitted diseases, you can’t rule out the effectiveness of the vaccines that have saved us from many hideous diseases.  If you know people who had polio and are now suffering a second time from having had that hideous disease, then you know that vaccines can be a great thing!

      • VictoriaBingham

        The Bee VictoriaBingham Hopefully for the sake of your children, you’ll do better research than that eventually.

      • http://www.longlifechoices.blogspot.com/ servant

        The Bee VictoriaBingham  Please remember one thing: the Drug/health industry since Nixon OK’d health businesses for profit, until then all hospital were a non-profit business, is the LARGEST industry in the nation! They and the Food Industry have got us all buffaloed,back in the 1900, before processed foods, our heart and cancer rates per 100,000 were less than 1/2 of what they were in the 1960′s and they have doubles since!,  Vaccines , well each person that I know that has received the Flu shot, got the flue! Those who have not ever, me and wife as two, have NEVER had the flue, DOES THAT TELL YOU ANYTHING?

  • servant

    Well whaddah know! It’s finally getting a ray of sunlight about this dirty little secret! It’s about time, as for many  years the COE ‘s of the Drug and Chemical companies have been playing “musical chairs, by their heading up the F.D.A. and Dept of Agriculture.
    What is there in the Bill of Rights, or our Constitution that ALLOWS these giant corporation to put and enforce a PATENT, on a food product?
    What gives them the right to BIO-ENGINEER, Crop Seed, that the plant comes with it’s own “Built-in” pesticide, which we must eat thus take in this garbage?
    Why are they allowed to do this? See the opening two sentences!
    PLUS, why have they been allowed to have and produce for sale, “DEAD-END SEED”? Which means that none can take seeds from one year’ s crop and use it for seed for the next year! 
    What are they ALL members of the ZERO POPULATION GROWTH CLUB?
    WHAT IT THE HIGH ALTITUDE SPAYING OF ALUMINUM OXIDE, BARIUM OXIDES, SO THAT NO SEED, NO HEIRLOOM SEEDS will grow, nor even germinate UNLESS we buy from the big seed companies!
    Is all this not look, smell and taste like a MONOPOLY IN THE MAKING?
    Sadly we need not look to our A.G. Mr. E Holder, he’s far too busy covering up his messes and that of the Dept of State, IE Benghazi and let’s not forget “Fast & Furious”! 
    All this at a time when the P.L.D.’s are very hard at work destroying America, via taxes and regulations by the 1,000′ s!
    America what ever possessed you to place this man back into the White House for another four lousy years?
    http://www.longlifechoices.blogspot.com

    • cyoder

      servant “why have they been allowed to have and produce for sale, “DEAD-END SEED”? Which means that none can take seeds from one year’ s crop and use it for seed for the next year! ” 
      Very simple. They produce much higher yields. Farmers would go broke without them.

      • ObamaDualer

        cyoder LOL! Keep telling yourself that.

        • cyoder

          ObamaDualer cyoder I wasn’t talking about GMOS. I was talking about hybrid seed, something entirely different.

        • ObamaDualer

          cyoder ObamaDualer My apologies for misunderstanding your comment.

      • ET53

        cyoder servant Farmers around the world have proved that GM seeds do NOT  produce bigger yields. Last year farmers in India had their biggest crop production ever – without one single GM seed. They did it the old fashioned way with natural fertilizers and a little weeding.  Farmers are threatened by use of GM seeds, that they cannot stop once they have used the Monsanto seeds because Monsanto will sue them for patent infringement if their next crop might happen to be contaminated by nearby farms  using the GM seeds. The case before the  Supreme Court this year was based on a farmer doing what soybean farmers have always done, taking soybeans from their storage silo and using them to plant the next years crop. Monsanto sued him for using their patented seeds without paying for them again.

    • ashforkdan

      servant All part of the agenda 21 and the depopulation of the world.Genetic genes used to grow food from pigs and other animals is not a good thing.We will see the damage sooner or later and by then it will be to late.More cases of children with mental and physical defects that will not be able to reproduce the following generations will be the demise of the human race.What then?Will we just get a oh you where right sorry?Just look around and see what the vaccines have done around the world.They too were supposedly safe and then forced on our young before they were aloud to enter school.The damage to these children and the ones that died was just collateral damage.Agenda 21 is the root of all evil in this world and if your not familiar with it,it might be time for you to research it.Wars were used to thin the population of the world but it seems that it is taking to long,so now they vaccinate and force you to eat altered foods to just speed up their plans.How many conspiracies that they boo hood has come true?Its just the facts and we all know that the liberal doesn’t believe in the facts.Children are being hurt from this food and all you need to do is research it a little to see that its not a conspiracy.

      • Kathleen46

        Oh, my goodness,  ashforkdan!  Don’t be silly.  If you or your children get sick, just take them to “the doctor you’ve always had” using the “insurance you’ve always had” at price “at least $2500 LESS! than you’ve always paid”.  Today, all of the vaccines, etc. are going to be included in ObamaCare, along with every form of birth control, diagnostic testing and lots of other goodies.  Heck!  In a year or two, it’ll be determined that the goodies are SO good for you that they will become required.  I’m telling you, the Gov’ment will always be around to HELP THE FOLKS.  Personally I’m looking forward to the required (and Free, of course) face lift like Nancy Pelosi has and Harry Reid doesn’t.  But he advocates colonoscopies on an annual basis.
        Keep telling the truth!  Agenda 21 is not a myth or a fantasy.  And it, like prosperity, is just around the corner!
        Best to you,
        Kathleen

        • http://www.longlifechoices.blogspot.com/ servant

          Kathleen46 Hate to burst your bubble BUT. . . . Last year from June to Dec, my wife of 52 years, received chemo treatments, every three weeks. My co-pay? 650.00 bucks.
          BUT now with chemo every two months, Jan and March, we got a bill for?  $680.00 for just two infusions! Last year she’d get 4 bags but this just 2, so I can only imagine my year’s end cost as being 4 x 380.00 or $1,520.00 or a four fold increase for much less service, from every 3 weeks to now every other month.Yet You think that’s great?

          YOU do the math. This is reality not your theoritical pipe dream of OH BUMMER’S!
          Remember there is NO FREE Lunch, no matter what Caesar says nor Queen Nancy nor Prince Harry, they are all M.T. Suits living pie in the sky lives!

        • Troubleshooter

          servant Kathleen46 @servant; My Drug CoPays, Under Plan D, went from $1.10 cents for a $5.00 prescription, to $5.10 for a $5.00 prescription, and two other prescriptions went from $1.10 each to $17.50 and $34.50 respectively.  Oh, AND my A & B premium, and my Plan D premium both went up an outrageous amount.  Yeah.  Better.  For the Liars and Thieves in the White House and their benefactors in Big Pharma.

      • http://www.longlifechoices.blogspot.com/ servant

        ashforkdan servant Yes, but the force behind it all, has always been to same, ol’e Slew foot the Devil. See it matter not to him how but as long as he can keep mankind from the truth. With this he is attacking us at our fundamental foundation, food for our flesh. That keeps us from focusing on the required food for our spiritual self, Christ!
        Which is his total obsession, right from Revelation 12 onwards, He want all to worship him, but all he can do is steal lie and kill, the ONLY thing he can create is a disastrous mess. Just look at our news!

  • brs

    You of course realize corn is genetically modified grass that can not survive without humans… even if you grab a 2000 year old sample of Maize from Central American and some how cultivate it left to its own it will die out. With all the problems we’re facing why are you wasting time and energy on this “issue?”

    • ObamaDualer

      brs Please let us know if you have any other stupid arguments in favor of GMO’s because that one is a doozie.
      The issue is important because since the introduction of GMO’s the incidence of a variety of digestive orders have doubled. We’ve also seen an explosion of obesity since its introduction. The nation is actually at risk of not being able to take care of itself from a health standpoint if this trend continues.
      IOW, the very survival of the nation is at risk.

    • ET53

      brs The corn you speak of is NOT genetically  modified the way Monsanto is manipulating genes and splicing in  new ones from bacteria and other species. Mendelian processes of improving genetic traits that  humans find desirable is done by natural selection means.

  • scorp3j

    Q: Who’s eating GMO foods?
    A: In all likelihood, you are.
    Most people in the United States don’t realize that they’ve been eating genetically engineered foods since the mid-1990s. More than 60 percent of all processed foods on U.S. supermarket shelves—including pizza, chips, cookies, ice cream, salad dressing, corn syrup, and baking powder—contain ingredients from engineered soybeans, corn, or canola. After 14 years of cultivation and a cumulative total of 2 billion acres planted, no adverse health or environmental effects have resulted from commercialization of genetically engineered crops.

    • flyovercindy

      Yes, I agree that before anyone had heard of GMOs, they were being used, probably before the mid-90s even.  Just observationally however, I would say that “something” has begun causing adverse health effects in the past couple of decades.  When I was a kid, if you had an allergy, it was “hay-fever” or cats, and I knew 2 people with an allergy to penicillin.   Today we have entire buildings/schools/businesses that are “peanut-free” because of deadly peanut allergies!   If you don’t have an allergy nowadays, you ain’t hip!  The incidence of autism has risen drastically, ADHD is rampant, ED is a SERIOUS problem, fibromyalgia everywhere! 
      Personally, I think a big part of the problem is pharmaceutical companies pushing chemicals, hypochondria and human beings just becoming “soft” and dependent, but if even half of these increases are real, what caused this?  Food produced with GMO components lowering our resistance, suppressing our immune system and generally weakening our bodies is a logical reason, in my mind.  Like I said, just an observation…

      • SandyTrank

        flyovercindy It is probably reeking havoc with our immune system. All those are immune system issues. My grandbaby has has more intestinal issue than any baby I have ever seen. Some with his brother. I read it is in the baby food

    • ashforkdan

      scorp3jThats not true and you know it.check out this site.http://www.gmwatch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14717:new-paper-on-dsrna-risks-briefing-for-non-specialists
      You can believe what ever you want thats your right but don’t say there isn’t proof that its not harmful to people you are hurting people that don’t have the facts.You have the right to eat what ever you want but don’t think for a minute that the people should just lay down and take what they are being forced to consume even though its poison and its not allowed to research the results for the good of the people.DDT was spread all over the news as being safe and now its outlawed at least here.But the mexican foods that are being brought across the borders are still using it.I’ll stick with my garden and the meat I raise and watch you all die.

    • VictoriaBingham

      scorp3j Really?  You eat grocery store food? corn syrup?

  • ET53

    People united to oppose this from all over the political spectrum because protecting Monsanto and  others who  make GMOs from legal challenge is dangerous to all of us. It affects farmers particularly hard. For instance several farmers who chose  not to use GM seeds were later sued by Monsanto for “stealing” their  patented seed product because the wind blew pollen from their fields onto these other farmers fields. Many of these farmers lost their farms when courts ruled in Monsanto’s favor. Now, unless there is Congressional action to repeal this rider, WE the  people ,have been royally screwed.

    • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

      ET53 Okay, you have a great point.  Monstanto was wrong to sue farmers for in this circumstance, and it’s even more wrong for the courts to side with Monsanto.  However, the problem wasn’t “genetically modified super-foods from outer space”.  The problem is what it always is, which is someone using the force of government to screw someone else.

  • brs

    I understand that completely. They also told my Uncle he was crazy for planting no till corn, but he made record yields, saved the topsoil, and didn’t waste time or energy on tilling.

  • SandyTrank

    We are being told we are eating them because we are guinea pigs!! Do the scientist give the rats a choice? That information is saved for the privileged few and we aren’t in that group!

    • Evermyrtle

      SandyTrank  The government considers us their guinea pigs and plan and plan to try out their concoction out on us if we are foolish to take part.

      • SandyTrank

        Evermyrtle Thats for sure! I do hope tho that we don’t run out of choices before the Trump sounds!

  • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

    Oh my God.  This is moronic.  Some very basic research will tell you that Americans, indeed much of the world, has been eating genetically modified crops since the 1970′s.
    This is pure anti-science fear-mongering.  I appreciate wanting to know what you’re eating, and wanting to know that it’s safe to eat, but this is borderline “green movement” nonsense.
    You’ve already been eating it, kids.  If anyone was going to grow a third arm, your grand-kids would already have shown you the horror of your current fears.
    By the by, internet searches are your friend.  If you do some basic internet reserach, you’ll see what I’m saying is true, and you also see the most of the people against genetically modified crops are the “eco-terrorist” nut-bags that most Constitutional Conservatives despise.  You know, the anti-science idiots who start rumors that using the cell phone while pumping gas can cause an explosion?  Haven’t ya’ll learned anything by now?
    Here you are, attacking “a big, evil Corporation”.  I feel like I’m at the Huffington Post watching “The Story of Stuff”.  Reactionary much?

    • ObamaDualer

      Jaycen Maybe you haven’t noticed, Jaycen, that the health of the nation has deteriorated significantly in the last couple of decades in particular as more and more of these GMO’s get into the food supply of people and of livestock. 
      The livestock are getting sick or are even dying and the people are getting fat in record numbers while the incidence rate of digestive illnesses is skyrocketing. Infertility is also increasing significantly.
      I am as conservative as they come, so cut the crap about this being a left wing issue. This isn’t a left or right issue. It’s a right or wrong issue.

      • SandyTrank

        ObamaDualer Jaycen  It seems to effect the immune system and I have wondered if it could possibly have contributed to all the outbreaks of anthrax. All three of my youngest grandbabies, have intestinal ailments of one sort or another and none of them have I ever seen in my relatives.

        • Wondering Woman

          SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen 
          Look at the vaccines record of those grandchildren and look up “The Dark Side of Vaccines”.  The Wakefield’s now have a lawsuit pending in Texas against those who tried to slander them and destroy their veracity to save the vaccine.
          I find it interesting that after a long fight with the FDA, they finally removed the timerosal preservative from the vaccines (except for the flu vaccine), but do you know what they replaced it with – that old well known flavor enhancer named monosodium glutamate and called it a preservative. Makes perfect sense if you remember that the new world order’s ultimate goal is annihilation of 95% of the population worldwide.  For more on what these vaccines go to Natural Solutions Foundation and read on Dr, Rima Laibow Genome Diruption syndrome caused by the vaccines.  
          None of the vaccines have proven to be very helpful and none of them provide lifetime immunity from the childhood diseases like naturally getting the childhood disease itself does.  Th e flu vaccine hasn’t proved to be very useful for the young or the old and taking the flu vaccine 5 years or more is believed to be one of the causes of Alzheimer’s disease.
          Vaccines are not the only thing that scientists have lied to us about.  Look how the buffoons are still trying to promote the “global warming” and insist that it is so, even after the hackers exposed the e mail communication among the scientists that they knew what they were trying to sell the public was a lot of hooey to push their “Agenda  21″.
          Some farmer’s are fighting back against Monsanto’s contaminating their crops and then suing them for stealing their corn seeds.  Some are winning.
          Also some people are suing the EPA for some of their stupid rulings (like the couple who were threatened with a law suit if they persisted in cleaning up debris from a dry creek bed in a desert area) and winning.  This is called PUSH BACK and it works to counteract the stupidity called science that the new world order is trying to force down our throats.
          Wake up people, and think for yourself.  Classic example of why I say this is the caution that a lot of people add when talking to someone about using herbal or natural remedies along with chemotherapy.  The caution is be aware that use of the herbal or natural remedy may decrease the efficacy of the chemotherapy.  When you hear something like this, it’s time to say Hmmmmm, and start asking yourself how a natural remedy could possibly interfere with the action of the potent, harsh chemicals of the any chemotherapy.  The only rationale I could come up with when I asked myself that question, was the natural remedy decreased or prevented the chemotherapy drugs from damaging our immune systems.  Have not been diagnosed with cancer, but think if I ever am, I will choose the gentler method that God provides over the synthetic version of the  chemicals found in those plants the pharmaceutical manufacturers make so they can patent it and rake in the profits.

        • SandyTrank

          Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen  Amen! I agree totally with all you have said. I am familiar with Agenda 21 and although there are a lot of tentacles, it seems to be end game to me. I will read up on you info you game me. My grandbabies have gotten all the usual immunizations for up to 4 yrs old and I don’t like it but I have no control. My daughter just graduated 2 years ago with her RN and flu shots are mandatory just as they were for me but I only had 3 or 4. I got lucky and changed jobs a few times after they were given and nobody asked if I had one and I didn’t tell them I didn’t . I can remember getting sick when I did get them and stayed healthy when I didn’t so I don’t take them The only thing I wanted for my self was hepatitis B because working with blood as we do in hospitals, I didn’t want to be at risk. When I was a kid, we just simply got measles, chicken pox and mumps. We lived. Polio or small pox maybe  but that is all I would consider necessary. I was in the hospital in September for a week and received a CT Scan with radioactive contrast. I received it iv and drank the nasty stuff as well. It was necessary or I wouldn’t have agreed. I have side effects that I am countering with Horsetail Herb and MSM for the radiation toxicity. So far it looks like my hair is beginning to grow back and I am still fatigued but that will change too as I continue with my supplements. Much to my dentists distress I refuse all xrays unless its for an abscessed tooth or an injury. He has quit asking me the past 5 years cause he know I won’t for routine. It’s good to hear another person that understands the danger we are in with the Agenda 21 plan. I see it being implemented all over the place. I am already planning my garden and instead of freezing food I plan to learn how to can food. It will keep better and if we have no power, it won’t spoil and as long as it’s cooked food , its a meal. Thanks again for the web sites and info.

        • Troubleshooter

          SandyTrank Wondering Woman ObamaDualer Jaycen @SandyTrank, if you look around on the internet, you can find Class Action lawsuits that are already being settled for the victims of the effects of Imaging Contrasts.  It sounds like you are certainly entitled to be compensated by the harmful effects that they KNOWINGLY subjected people to.

        • Lerojist

          Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen 

          What a better way to kill off a people, but by their food/water supply?  
          God made our food, now man is destroying the design, for profit, for the love of money.

        • Troubleshooter

          LerojistWondering WomanSandyTrankObamaDualerJaycenDon’t forget Weather Manipulation, which the governments now admit to. (H.A.A.R.P. and CHEMtrailing)
          http://weather.yahoo.com/storm-became-big-enough-span-atlantic-165848194.html

        • SandyTrank

          Lerojist Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen Your right. It has always been the goal of some men to control things and people. What better way than to have food water and healthcare in their hand to distribute to those who will bow. It is all included in Agenda 21. All businesses that partner with gov will be “approved” business with which we can do business, slowly and surely weeding out those who will not bow as we live and breathe. It’s all happening before our eyes. The less we depend on them the better for us and the more we can provide for ourselves to eat the better as well. We can’t go back to little house on the prairie days because out civilization now doesn’t allow for such but we can still have a garden and can and freeze food. For now…

        • SandyTrank

          Troubleshooter SandyTrank Wondering Woman ObamaDualer Jaycen  Thank you troubleshooter. There are a lot of us. Even as an RN, I was too sick to even object. I will look up these on the net. Thanks again.

        • ET53

          Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen not all vaccines are useless. Polio and smallpox, two very deadly diseases, have been nearly wiped out around the world because of vaccination programs. I personally know several people who had polio as children and are now having new symptoms  of the disease now that they are older. They sure wish they could have  had the vaccine.

        • cyoder

          Troubleshooter Lerojist Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen I followed the link. It says  no such thing.

        • Wondering Woman

          ET53 Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen Hi T53,  I too used to think that vaccines were useful, but today, if I were in the childbearing age, I would fight tooth and nail to prevent my child from getting any sort of vaccine for anything.  You need to do more research on vaccines, and realize that most of this adverse information we are now seeing on vaccines, are only being made public decades after vaccines causing the problems were given.  Many times the information is not found in a publication that the general public is likely to get their hands on, unless someone ferrets it out and publicizes it.  For instance one vaccine given for a trivial childhood disease was found to cause telescoping of the intestines.  None of the vaccines have been found to give lifetime immunity to the disease it is to prevent, like the natural event of getting the measles, mumps, etc. does.  I personally remember the patient who had already spent 18 months in the medical intensive care unit thanks to the GB paralysis following a flu vaccine being given.  He only got to stay on the medical floor for a few weeks before going back to MICU where he died.  He never regained the ability to turn over in bed, scratch his nose or any other part of his anantomy, or to reach for a drink of water or feed himself.   I met this poor fellow in 1982, almost 2 years after the GB syndrome ended his quality and enjoyment of life.  I have also read about many developing polio after getting the vaccine, because some batches had been made with the live vaccine.
          Reading that thimerosal (mercury derivative which is a neurotoxin) had finally been removed from the vaccines (still in flu vaccines) made me feel better until I read that they had replaced it with MSG – yes, good old flavor enhancer monosodium glutamate which has also been found to be neurotoxic and is one of the two major excitotoxins found in our food chain.
          The sodium fluoride in many public water supplies was used by the Germans in the death camps of WW ll to keep the patients complacent and obedient.  I also remember reading in an article in a neurological medical journal that the amount of sodium fluoride permitted in our drinking water was exactly the same amount that causes Alzheimer’s disease back in 1977-8 while researching literature for writing a term paper.  It has also been connected to cancer of the bones.  When it is in the public water supply, you are not only getting what you drink in the water, but absorbing more of it transdermally when you bathe, shower, brush your teeth, etc.  There have also been  reports of children dying from accidental overdoses of fluoride from brushing their teeth, but it is difficult to find a toothpaste without it in your local grocery or pharmacy.
          If you go on line and search you can probably pull up the video of Bill Gates (the billionaire entrepreneur) espousing using the vaccines to control the population growth, which may or may not surprise you as much as it did me, when I saw a man I considered both intelligent and humane, speaking in favor of the new world order agenda.  
          If you really want to look at both sides of the story of vaccines, just type in the dark side of vaccines or adverse problems with vaccines.  One of the most recent ones can be found on Natural Solutions Foundation and has been named Genome Disruption Syndrome.  You might find this one interesting.  Research Dr. Wakefield, who the powers that be tried to destroy professionally,  for daring to speak out against problems he blamed on the vaccines.  He now has a lawsuit pending against his detractors – in our big state of Texas.
          Squalene is an adjuvant added to some vaccines given to our troops and has been connected to the Gulf War Syndrome.  You may or may not know that the swine flu vaccine of 2009 was not going to have squalene added before shipping but the plan was that it would be added to the flu vaccine at the site where it was given.  Does this make you feel better about the good vaccines.  
          Before you buy your next bottle of lotion or cream, read the ingredients looking for this, because I find it listed on many of them now.  Anything you apply to your skin is going to be absorbed transdermally through the skin, so learn what the toxins are, and when you find them in products, question the ones selling them why they have put toxins in their products and that you will not be buying their products until they are removed!
          The information is out there, you just have to dig for it.  I have just touched the surface for you.

        • Wondering Woman

          Troubleshooter Lerojist Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen Yep, When I first learned of HAARP – it read like there was only one, but also mentioned that the different nations had a treaty that they would only use it on their own.
          Last time I revisited HAARP site, found there are 9 of these ultimate weapons of mass destruction, 3 of them are under US control, 2 of these are in Alaska and one in Guam, I think – remember thinking it sure was close to Haiti and their devastating earthquake.  Don’t remember if they mentioned the location and who was controlling the other 6 HAARPS, which were said to be smaller and less well developed that the two in Alaska.

        • Wondering Woman

          Lerojist Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen   You forgot to mention our medicines along with the food/water supply to kill off the people.  Remember Vioxx? and numerous other medicines, that only a few of them have been brought to public attention.

        • Troubleshooter

          cyoder Troubleshooter Lerojist Wondering Woman SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen What link are you talking about moron, and what “no such thing”?

        • Troubleshooter

          Wondering Woman Troubleshooter Lerojist SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen China and Japan each have a H.A.A.R.P.  facility.  Each of these facilities has the capacity to create earthquakes and tidal waves, and to affect weather patterns.  The effect can be focused to any point on the planet.  They are being used by the Nations which possess them to wage economic warfare through crop destruction and weather destruction such as drought, storms, flooding, and earthquakes and the associated tidal waves.

        • Troubleshooter

          Wondering Woman Troubleshooter Lerojist SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen In addition to H.A.A.R.P. and other similar facilities, there is now also the widespread use of focused energy weapons, often on individual American Citizens, as well as in many other instances around the world.  The massive wildlife die-offs are the result of indiscriminate AND intentional testing and use of these weapons.

        • SandyTrank

          Troubleshooter Wondering Woman Lerojist SandyTrank ObamaDualer Jaycen  So if that is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t because you are good for facts; then they can prevent us from growing our own food at some point. Our saving our own organic seed will do us no good if they burn up or drown. That’s scary.

    • SandyTrank

      Jaycen So tell us why it’s such a BIG secret and they won’t label the food? Why do they need laws passed to protect them and guarantee them that they don’t have to label it? If its so “good and harmless” why the secrecy??

      • Evermyrtle

        SandyTrank Jaycen If it is not labeled, we should leave it on the shelf.  otherwise how do we know what we are eating, it could, very well be dangerous. They do have a reason not to label  it so why is it.

    • AFM99

      Jaycen
      But to some (as Dr. Sowell puts it so well) evidence is irrelevant.

      • ObamaDualer

        AFM99 Jaycen Your comment drips with irony,AMF. We’ve given you evidence, but you’ve gamefully tried to limit what you’ll accept to research that Monsanto was never required to do. Nor will they support that sort of research. In fact, they resist it, making it difficult for research facilities to test it.
        But the evidence on the ground is real and telling. You don’t want to hear it. So eat up, my man, eat up!

      • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

        AFM99 Too true.  Love Dr. Sowell.

      • SandyTrank

        AFM99 Jaycen  Only to the blind and those with an agenda

    • OhioFarmer

      Jaycen the first GMO crops were introduced in the 1990s. not the 1970s.  All crops grown by farmers before that had been developed by conventional breeding not by the insertion of genes mechanically or through the infection by a virus containing DNA from other plants, animals, bacteria ect. 
       the first two GMO crops failed because of consumer resistance to them.  They were developed for reduced production costs not consumer benefit.  Almost all current GMO crops are developed for cheaper production.  The are more concerned about quick fixes to problems.  We see the addiction of spraying everything with RoundUp has created new weed problems that will require quick fixes for the GMO providers to not fail.  At a meeting introducing Monsanto’s dicamba soybeans the breeder said he did not look at the quality of the oil and meal, only that is could take the herbicide.  When questioned farther a person from head office stated they have a commitment the will not be substantially different.  For your information RR soyoil produces a polymer that leaves the cookers as a vapor and coats the walls, ceiling and ventilation systems of the plants using it.  It is a major fire hazard.  That is why the use of soybean oil has dropped to a 25 year low as an edible oil.  Source USDA fats and oils report. The only way GMO companies can survive is if they get farmers all over the world to use it so the consumer has no choice.  The latest failure of Monsanto Bt corn is this year in Brazil.  insects  and weeds  are very adapt to   becoming resistant to any product that is over used in a very short period of time.
      Farmers first interest is how much cheaper is it to grow and is it easier to grow.  I hate to say they have not shown much concern the consumer using it.  The have the attitude if it looks like corn then it is corn.  Even today the biggest importer of corn in the world is meeting with the Ukrainian government  to find a way for the corn from there to meet the quality standards of US number 3 corn which we ship them.   Must we wait till we loose that market before we figure out that there are nations that do not want unproven safe food?  The loss of that market this year to Brazilian corn has cost us 500 mln bushels of exports.  The US farmer love affair with GMO crops has been a driving force for importing countries to look to other sources for food.

      • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

        OhioFarmer Hi, farmer.  I appreciate your reasoned response.
        I thought I saw a Stossel report that we’ve been using genetically enhanced corn since 1978. I could have been wrong, or he could have been wrong, or we might be talking about different types of genetic modifications.
        Regardless, nothing you’ve said disputes my points.  Also, nothing you’ve said proves the genetically modified foods are less safe for us to eat.  Sure, the soy oil example you posted shows a negative side-effect for that one plant, but leaving behind extra oil (and all oil is highly flammable, by the way) isn’t the same thing as “unsafe to eat”.
        Funny, but you actually aluded to the real problem here, which is the first consumer of genetically modified seeds – the farmers.  If the farmers don’t hold their vendors accountable, then their vendors won’t change their ways, but this is true no matter where you go or what industry you look at.
        So far, there’s been nothing presented in this particular discussion, short of some “what if” and “Oh my gosh!” that indicates anything dangerous about the foods themselves.

        • OhioFarmer

          Jaycen OhioFarmer The consumer must hold the farmer accountable before the farmer will hold he seed companies accountable.  You need to get a voluntary  system of labeling rather then a mandatory system.  The food processors need to see a loss in sales before they will jump onto the band wagon.  Once we have that then everyone can choice what they will put into their bodies good or bad.

        • ObamaDualer

          OhioFarmer Jaycen Jeffrey Smith has said that it takes only a 5% shrinkage of marketshare for a company to decide to make the switch away from GMO’s to non GMO.

        • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

          OhioFarmer Jaycen Farmer, you had me on your first couple of assertions, but I haven’t yet seen proof that anyone’s done anything wrong.

        • SandyTrank

          OhioFarmer Jaycen  That is true. I buy my meat mostly from a local farmer and I only grow organic in my small garden and I won’t even touch hybrid. Lots of my friends are ignoring hybrid as well because of the tampering there and the inconsistent crop from  the seeds. At some point hybrid won’t be a good money crop either unless they sell overseas. People are beginning to get literally sick and tired of what we are being offered.

    • Wondering Woman

      Jaycen We did our research and it ain’t borderline “green movement” nonsense.  Go back and research those two studies done on GMO produce in India and France.  Please feel free to eat my share of the GMO produce, and I want it clearly marked so I can avoid eating the toxic crud and leave it for those who think it is good food.

      • ATreff

        Wondering Woman @Jaycen – Don’t bother WW. Monsanto has their “info control” shills roaming the web to spread misinfo and attack people seeking to share the truth of what is going on. For several years, I had first hand experience dealing with the NWO mafia shills pumping their lies in support of the bankers and was street thieves as they were fleecing America. After time, saw the same pattern in several areas, including their man-made global warming scam, how beneficial Agenda 21 will be and even in this area dealing with gmo garage food. The tell-tale sign is when the provide bogus facts in support of their positions, and when called out, they turn to insults to try and discredit people speaking truth. If Jay

        • ATreff

          Wondering Woman – if Jay is not one of these guys, he is blind and running from the truth.

        • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

          ATreff Wondering Woman Good Lord, I guess I found the local Trolls. Nice.
          Man, based on no information, you both jumped to conclusions that were clearly out of your reach. Nutty.

      • http://www.sternresolve.jaycenrigger.com Jaycen

        Wondering Woman Jaycen Why don’t you post a link?
        What I see is a complaint about cotton and eggplant, neither of has anything to do with food safety. Cotton crop failure saddled farmers with enormous debt so many committed suicide. Suicide is an active choice.
        The eggplant issue is the government mad simply that Monsanto did a mod of their indigenous eggplant.
        You sound like a commie green movement plat, pardon the pun. So I’ll need those links.

  • brs

    Killing a product or action through endless frivolous law suits has never happened let alone a common place strategy when science isn’t on an opponents side… reference fracking.

  • ATreff

    Moronic?  You have no clue what health effects GMO’s will have in the long run, so instead of going with what works (natural foods) and at a very minimum, taking adequate time to fully study GMO’s, giving full public disclosure of that research and insuring that honest labeling will give people the choice, we take a huge gamble, based upon insuring Monsanto controls the food supply and maximized profits.  What is worse, Monsanto is against any manner of fair labeling to insure people have free choices in deciding what to eat.  You are cheerleading for this policy?
    I guess Monsanto altering the DNA of corn so it can ONLY grow one time and no future corn kernels can germinate and grow (suicide or terminator seeds) – to insure we are forced to be customers for life and continually purchasing their seeds – that does not bother you Jaycen (or whatever your shill name is).  https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=suicide+seeds&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 
    I guess destroying corn’s built in ability to “call for help” (releasing hormones that attract predatory insects) from nematode worms, when attacked by root-eating insects is not a threat to the food supply, is it Jaycen?   http://www.pnas.org/content/106/32/13213.full.pdf
    I guess monopolies on food by Monsanto is good for the rest of humanity, or is the fact the Monsanto corn cross-polinates with organic corn and Monsanto sues the farmers to steal their land does not a concern to you, does it Jaycen?  http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pages/why-does-monsanto-sue-farmers-who-save-seeds.aspx
    I guess Monsanto using corrupted banks, politicians and judges to steal millions of acres of farmer land through bogus foreclosures in the 70′s and 80′s, so they can establish a foothold on American agriculture is ok with you, in spite of the fact the American taxpayers are now flipping the bill with the “Farm Claims” payments to those farmers (happening in the last year).  http://anticorruptionsociety.com/national/farm-claims/
    I suppose the fact that Monsanto – your obvious hero – was closely connected to the NAZI company I.G. Farben (Hitler’s top biochemical weapons manufacturer), and that their roots not only tie into NAZI Germany, but their agenda does as well, is of no concern to you?  http://farmwars.info/?p=3613
    I suppose that centralizing food control in the hands of Monsanto and other similarly situated cartel companies, allows for the easier implementation of United Nation’s food control programs, like the CODEX ALIMENTARIUS, a program of one world government food control that IMPOSES policies such as declaring vitamins in foods as toxins, stopping the free marketing of vitamins to the public, and promotes the use of radiation in food to be used for consumption.  https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=codex+and+vitamins+are+toxins&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 
    I could go on, if you wish, but why bother.  I am certain you will try your “conspiracy theorist’ garbage as a response, addressing none of the real issues I advanced.  For that approach, I thank you for the compliment in that you cannot respond to my position because you are not qualified.  Please, just go and crawl back under which NWO stone you slithered.  It is not yet your time.

  • CharlieSeattle

    Sad, You can’t expand your mind to visualize where this will lead…………. as I pointed out.

    • Troubleshooter

      CharlieSeattle @CharlieSeattle; I know where it will all lead….I read the book and know how it ends.  As the Journey song goes “Some will win, Some will lose, Some are gonna sing the blues….”

  • ATreff

    Yes scorp3j, an “enemy of  the people”, of that I am certain.  Of course, it depends on which “people” you are talking about.  The people, as in the average human being who seeks joy and peace and freedom in their lives?  Of those people, I am in total alignment.  As far as the the elitists, who think that they are above the rest and entitled to rob, rape and murder innocent people because innocent people are not part of their sick-minded cabal (of course, the cabal will consume itself with lust, greed and betrayal)…  well, you could logically make such a deduction, of that I am certain.  
    You see, I would rather stand for what is right and die doing it than sell out to those you clearly grovel to in the hopes they will let you live and be  good slave.  You can have the mafia, the traitors, the war-makers, the murderers and thieves, the satanists, the elites, the new world order filth and the rest, and live your life begging for scraps from their table and I will live my life with principles and peace, knowing that in the end, you and yours will lose.
    As far as referring to me as a “pig” and a stupid one at that, I am not stupid for merely choosing the right path.  I am not stupid for realizing that there are some principles that are more important than life itself.  Perhaps one day I will suffer because of these truths, but they are eternal and immutable all the same, and no amount of evil or whimpering sellouts like you will change that fact from being fact.

    • Wondering Woman

      ATreff Kudos to you Treff, for having the courage to stand up for your principles.  Thanks for renewing my faith and letting me know that there are a few more like Dr. Ron Paul out there with that with that kind of courage.  If more of our elected officials had displayed his kind of character, this Nation would not be in the danger we now find ourselves in.

      • Evermyrtle

        Wondering Woman ATreff Rand Paul is doing more than Ran ever thought of doing,I beleive  we have a great worker in Rand

    • Troubleshooter

      ATreff @ATreff; The applause for your comments must be deafening.  Thank you.  The Human Beings agree with you.

    • Evermyrtle

      ATreff Excellent, well thought out and spoken post, Thank you for speaking for all of GOD’S people. Most of us could never say it so well. Thank you, again and keep up the good work.
      Myrtle

  • OhioFarmer

    there is a very old saying that goes back to the Greeks, let your food be your medicine.  another is, you are what you eat.  both these are based on how our bodies digest food and expel wastes.  Before we make any big changes to what we eat, we should make sure our bodies can handle it before rather then after. We have a history of responding,   opps sorry after major problems are discovered and many people and animals are suffering.  Would you like to be the person they discover the problem in? 
    Would you use lead as a sweetener?  The Romans did for over 200 years.  would you  wash with organophosphates?  we doused people all over the world with them for years.  we even used them openly in our homes by the brand name of  Raide. and claimed they were safe until third party science found they were not.   
    Would you take an untested drug that claims to reverse aging?  At one time it was accepted that many of the poisons had wonderful health benefits.
    I know some peoples model of the world has Monsanto never doing anything to hurt people.  Go back to when they manufactured drugs and see how many we ordered removed from the market by the FDA vs the normal percentage by other firms. How many farm chemicals did they develop that were band from use?  True you can not test for everything  but short studies are not good for discovering longterm effects.
    Not to question new science is foolish, not to allow it to prove itself in an open 3rd party examination is even more foolish.  They just need to be proven safe. In western Canada they do that at the expense of the company that want to introduce new verities of grain. We do more study of the effects of radon then we do on GMO foods.  
    Remember it is not just the genes but the order of the genes that effect the safety and usability of a plant.  That is why there is a major problem with RR soybean oil leaving the vat when used to produce fried food.  This is the reason that the US per capita  edible consumption of soybean oil is at a 25 year low while consumption of total fats and oils has remained about steady, as reported by the USDA.  Soybean oil has lost 25% of the US domestic edible oil market since 1996.  Look at the USDA fats and oils report for that data. 
    The benefits of GMO seeds goes mainly to the patent holder not the farmer who grows them.  I am a conventional farmer who looks at the end buyer of my crops.  All my corn and soybeans are shipped to Japan.  They are GMO free and the Japanese pay me more money for them then for GMO crops.  Current bids are $1.50 bushel more for soybeans and $.50 more for corn.  With the roundup ready weeds and the failure of corn root worm Bt, it does not cost me more to grow non gmo.  The problem is you have to find high yielding non gmo hybrids to grow.  Thankfully I have a seed dealer who is doing an outstanding job for me.

    • ET53

      OhioFarmer More good information! I commented on one of  your other answers before I read this. You have the information very well presented.

  • OhioFarmer

    The vice president of Syngenta in charge of the corn development has stated in public speeches “marker breeding that is giving the increases in yields not the GMO traits”.  A few years ago Monsanto in their traveling semi trailer dog and pony show for us farmers made the statement that marker breeding gives the yield and the traits are added later only protect it if insects are there.  They asked use what we would prefer.  I stated loud and clear the corn before they added the traits so I could get the higher yields three to five years earlier.  That caught her off guard and she did say with out the traits they be available sooner. There was only 20 of us in the room so they did not throw me out.  After the presentation the Monsanto employee talked to me. She said I was the first farmer to say that but it was a very valid answer.  I learned a number of things from her that I can not disclose.  She was one of the research team that got the first GMO plant to live in the lab back in the 1970s.  It took 20 years and millions of dollars to develop how to do it so it be commercially profitable.  At first they thought they be able to sell it to the seed companies to use and make big dollars.  They discovered in the late 80s they had to control the seed company to be able to make any return on the investment.  That is why they bought Dekalb seeds which was a publicly traded company.
     Part of the failure of gmo Bt traits is they target very limited species which gives others the chance to grow and become a new problem that must be controlled.  It is easier to control pests when their populations are low then after they have exploded  in massive yield robbing numbers.  
    It is interesting to note that in corn performance trials by universities that all corn is grown with conventional herbicide programs and full soil applied insecticide rates.  They do not depend on the GMO traits to spray RR and control the bugs.  In the few trails that do not use the conventional chemicals and depend on the GMO traits, the non gmo corns are just as high yielding as the GMO.  This year the use of soil applied insecticides is forecast to grow  40% to over 15 million acres.  the peak use before GMO was 30 mln acres.  
    I like one of Monsanto’s responses to the failure of Bt root worm corn in Iowa is the  farmers fault because they did not use soil applied insecticides.  DAA they were told by Monsanto they did not need them when they planted their GMO corn. 
    The other root worm Bt are going to fail too, it is only a matter of time.   This is why the increase in insecticide use. 
    I like a quote reported in WSJ from a meeting of New York Financial Analysts meeting by the CEO of Monsanto.  He held up a empty  Dekalb seed corn bag and said “farmers will pay $500 for this bag alone and another $100 for the seed in it”.  In the year after that meeting the price of Monsanto stock doubled. They are having problems getting the average price of  their seed corn over $300 bag included.

    • ottocr

      OhioFarmer   I’ve spent much of my life in the farm country of the midwest, and have immediate family who are or were farmers.  The thing that has always bothered me about the hype of “engineered” crop seeds is this:  First the government restricts what and how much farmers can grow.  In some cases they pay farmers to grow NOTHING!  This is called “farm subsidies” but most of the farmers I know wish it would go away so they could get on with farming.  The biggest effect these programs have had is to discourage the once-traditional family farms (my grandfather was a farmer in Iowa) and encourage “corporate” farms covering thousands of acres.  The government “subsidies” help control what gets grown and at the same time keeps the farmers – even the corporate ones – dependent on government handouts.  Then, the government subsidizes highly questionable seed modification programs to allegedly increase yields.  Artificially increased yields wouldn’t be needed of the same government backed off and let farmers grow what they want to grow, as much of it as the market will handle, and adjust their own production to market trends.  The ultimate insult to both farmers and consumers is when the government, knowing that there may be both short and long term problems with engineered seed, gives major seed producers a free pass from any potential legal consequences for messing up both the crops and the health of consumers.  This is bureaucracy at its worst – and clearly there is a lot of money from companies like Monsanto lubricating the legislative process to make these things happen.  In the end, both the farmers and consumers are the losers.

      • gnafuasusual

        ottocr OhioFarmer  Finally, someone who makes sense of all this. Thank You!

      • Lerojist

        ottocr OhioFarmer  You said it well!   I agree with you.

      • ET53

        ottocr OhioFarmer only one thing it is NOT the government developing or pushing these GMOs. It is Monsanto- the largest farmer in USA, who just snuck the “Monsanto rider” into the Continuing Resolution budget, to prevent farmers from suing them in court over any kind of GMO they want to introduce

        • SandyTrank

          ET53 ottocr OhioFarmer Perhaps not directly but when our government passes a law stating they do not have to label products, they are complicit.

      • OhioFarmer

        ottocr OhioFarmer Thank all of you for your replies to my postings.  
        I agree that the subsidies long outlived their usefulness was was to solve a short term financial crises in rural America caused by over production.  They should have been stopped in 1973. That money would have been much better spent in funding our Land Grant universities and USDA research and education programs.  Giving it to farmers only increased the cost of farming by capitalizing them into the land or other fixed costs.  It was the Land Grant  and USDA research and education that built our production capacity to the levels we see today.  It has been only in the last 40 yrs that private companies have seen the opportunity to take over this important job and through government budgets cuts slowly force the Universities and USDA to partner with them to get money to do any research. This dependence has  given the private companies de facto control of what is supposed to be independent 3rd party research that is publicly available for all to review.   Agriculture science needs a major overhaul for the benefit of all, farmers and consumers.  It should be our job to produce the best food for the consumer possible with the peace of mind it is healthy.  I am not organic because I can not stand weedy fields and the yield drages they cause.  But I am willing to always learn and to see if there are ways to and systems I can use to increase my production at the same time limiting the amount of chemicals I use.  We need research in those areas, but the universities can not get funding to do it.  The consumer needs to become active and support the funding of our Land Grant Universities to research all areas of production agriculture, not just what the companies want so they can use the the universities to sell their products. Consumers need to support farmers and companies that are willing to produce the products they want.  The best labeling of GMO foods is the labeling of Non GMO foods.  When there is the demand, companies will find a way to do it.  For example, we heard from Kellogg’s they can not get non_gmo soybean oil, well ADM has one plant in Decatur Illinois that crushes non-gmo beans and they export the products.  As a business they are very happy to sell it to companies here int he states that want it.  You may be concerned that the new healthy oil many only be available as GMO.  Well those healthy oil beans are developed with conventional breeding at Iowa State University.  The companies buy lines of beans from them to insert the GMO genes.  
        One thing that having government programs is the control that it gives the government over agriculture.  The biggest part of the USDA budget today goes to food stamps which is all welfare and consumer directed.  It be better if food stamps would be in the welfare department then in Agriculture.  We soon see that welfare is self defeating and we need to get these people working even if it is in make work projects.  They need to learn they have to earn the money they get and it is not a right.  Mexico has workfare not welfare.  How many things are not done because of the labor costs that people on welfare could do.  I see so much recyclable thrash along the roads and in parks that would be nice jobs for them.  Once they learn to work, then it only a short step to taking the jobs the illegals do.  That would reduce the demand for cheap illegal workers which would resolve that problem.  People who want to work will go to where the jobs are even if they have to break the law.  
        This country can greatly improve itself  and enter a new age of economic and social growth if we all work at it instead of having the attitude let others do it.  True we will have differences, but we need to respect those differences and work to bridge over them and solve them will be a benefit for us all.  On this subject of GMO, if you do not want to label it then fund the independent public 3rd party research where the researchers involved represent the interest of all parties to prove if it is safe as you claim.  I hope it is, but till it is proven, I will be of the old Missouri attitude SHOW ME IT IS SAFE and you satisfy  the reasonable questions that all consumers have.   For my family we grow a big garden so they know what I used on our food.

    • ET53

      OhioFarmer good  information to know thanks

  • BoiseBill

    If you have not seen “Food, Inc.” I encourage you to do so…immediately!!!!  If you’re opinion of Monsanto isn’t poor after reading all of this, then for certain after you watch this film, you will be enlightened.  My first thought when watching this film was why don’t our elected officials investigate this company, 2 min later, the answer came…then this article.

    • SandyTrank

      BoiseBill Thanks Bill, I will watch.

    • Troubleshooter

      BoiseBill @BoiseBill. if anybody oughta know farming, it’s the folks in Spudtown.  Thanks for speaking up, and welcome to the fray.

  • cyoder

    It is apparent that many of those protesting GMOs have little understanding of what they are and the changes made in them. To blame them for such things as obesity is unfounded nonsense. Just because two different things happen in the same time span does not mean that they are related.

    • Wondering Woman

      cyoder Yoder, you are either very stupid or just another of the new world order’s liars being paid to keep the general public confused and in the dark.  Give it up yoder.  We are tired of all the lies the new world order  comes up with to rationalize the inhumane, mass murders already done, and more planned for the future.
      The time for scientist lying about “global warming” and other fairy tales is long gone.

  • cyoder

    You still haven’t shown a connection.

    • Wondering Woman

      cyoder Not sure on what you are wanting a connection on, but if it is the GMO produce, being safe you have been given not a link to click on, but two honest research studies, wherein your answer lies.  You obviously know enough typing to type “you still haven’t shown a connection”, so that isn’t your problem.  If you don’t know that you can just type in “results of India’s study on GMO produce” or “France’s ;2 year study on GMO produce”, try it and learn that you can learn all kinds of things if you aren’t too lazy to look for it.  If you aren’t concerned enough to look for yourself, keep on eating  and drinking all the toxic stuff, and not trying to keep it where we can identify the toxic foods if we want to.  Very soon there will one less of you walking among us!

  • cyoder

    To put it succinctly, ambulance-chasing lawyers who will find a patsy to sue anybody for any reason, founded or unfounded, if they can make a buck out of it.

    • Lerojist

      cyoder  You have it right!

  • David Veselenak

    The NWO-ists are doing everything to control and eliminate  the population so that the precious amount of resouces will not be consumed by the people deemed not worthy by their standards! Yes it is a conspiracy and it is being successfully implemented. A revolution will be required to defeat these luciferian worshipers! WAKE UP, WISE UP, RISE UP!

    • SandyTrank

      David Veselenak  Absolutely right! Agenda  21 is the UN plan for the world and our leaders have embraced it.

  • Wondering Woman

    Partly right eecal,  but go print out the list of “names monosodium glutamate (MSG) hidden under” and carry it along to the grocery.  Whether you have a baby or not, visit the baby food/formula section and read the ingredients on the baby products, looking for those bogus names.  If I recall right “textured soybeans” is one of them.  I think you will find that MSG is back in the baby food/formula under bogus names.
    A group of doctors went before congress back in the 60′s, because they could get no action out of the FDA to make them remove MSG from baby foods/formula.  A  law was passed that made them remove the MSG from all baby foods/formula because it was definitely known that it caused mental retardation.  More things that it causes have been discovered since that time.  It is also a law that says MSG must always be listed in the ingredients when it is in any food or drink.  Are any of us gullible enough to believe that the FDA doesn’t know this law, or doesn’t know that it is being listed under bogus names to keep the general public from knowing that it is in their food supply?
    If you want to know more about the effect MSG and aspartame has on the human body, read Dr. Blaylock’s book “Excitotoxins:  The Taste That Kills”.  He must have thoroughly studied every research project on both of them before he wrote his book.  What a shame they don’t list ingredients on tobacco products,  beers/lagers, wines & liquors, because I’ll bet that most of them have MSG and/or aspartame in all of them.  Dr. Blaylock said that just as his book went to the press, he got the word that they were fixing to put MSG into all cigarettes.  I also recall reading in medical journal articles years ago that   one thing found in analyzing lunng cancers, was particles from the filters.  So one has to wonder is it tobacco causing lung cancer or products used in preparing it for the smoker, chewer or dipper????
    Feeling curious one day, I looked tobacco up in the data base on plants and was surprised to find that it had a lot of good stuff in the plant itself.  Surprised?  Yes, I was!

    • Troubleshooter

      Wondering Woman The combination of propanolol, once used in cold medicines, now used often as a food additive, and aspartame, when metabolized together by the human body, breaks down into embalming fluid in the organs and tissues.  Nice, hunh.  It also is cumulative in concentration and it exponentiates in effect.  Add Fluoride and the Mercury from amalgam dental fillings, and you have highly toxic substances which accumulate in the human body and never leave, and often find their final repository in the brain itself.  This is deliberate.  It is done with murderous intent.

      • scorp3j

        Troubleshooter Wondering Woman  Why don’t you post a link to your conspiracy theories or do I have to go to that nutjob Alex Jones to get his paranoid views?

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j Troubleshooter Wondering Woman Why in the world would I waste MY time doing research for you?  If it matters to you, do your own.  I have bigger fish to fry.

        • Wondering Woman

          scorp3j Troubleshooter Wondering Woman 
          Corp3j – please get off your lazy but and do a little research on your own.  The rest of us have other things to do than hand links to you on a silver platter.  You should be as smart as Alex Jones, that you call a nut job, and as concerned with the welfare of others.  The only site you need to know is youtube.com/videos and once you get to the site just type “new world order conspiracy” into their search window.  
          To get a rapid kick in the but and your gut, if you are still in denial as you sound, you might also get a rude awakening by typing “FM 3-39.40″ into your search window.  When you pull it and start reading, keep in mind that this manual is printed and distributed by our government, who tried to deny it when it was first leaked to the public.   They have since admitted it is their manual but not something they plan to do – but just to have a ready made plan if it should be needed for civil unrest in the future. This is the field manual laying out what your life is going to be like when FEMA comes to carry you to one of their camps (which are reportedly already well stocked and staffed) for detainment and resettlement.  If you aren’t too lazy, you can also type “AGENDA 21″ into your search window to wise up quickly.
          PS – Why do you think they already have these camps all over the country and why did they pass the NDAA, which says they can detain you at any time, for an indefinite period, without charges, no phone call and no access to a lawyer?  
          But if you are a shill like some seem to think you are, you could probably tell more than we already know through our endeavor in trying to keep abreast of what the distaff or dark side is doing!

        • Wondering Woman

          scorp3j Troubleshooter Wondering Woman Oops – the reply above should have been directed to troubleshooter!

        • scorp3j

          Wondering Womanscorp3jTroubleshooter Hahahaha it’s to late for you, and just as I figured you have been drinking the Alex Jones Kool-Aid….Are you also a 9-11 Truther?  Or how about Reptilian humanoids? Are you outside everyday taking pictures of Contrails too? Just like all the conspiracy theorist you’re all talk with no evidence to back anything up..That’s why you never post a link!!!.

        • Troubleshooter

          Wondering Woman scorp3j Troubleshooter @Wondering Woman; Lady, if you are directing the comment above at me, as you state that it should have been, you are really not in touch with reality, or you cannot read.  I suggest that you take a much closer look at what you think I have said, and then you can apologize to me, publicly.

        • Evermyrtle

          Wondering Woman scorp3j Troubleshooter The reason I am writing on these sites, is in the hopes of helping others to get the knowledge, that I might have and to share, especially about GOD, if I have links or any other usable information available, I will gladly share.

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle Wondering Woman scorp3j Troubleshooter  Yes, Myrtle I can see that you do. As Christians the Lord gives us insight into issues that you won’t find on the written page. We need to hear what you have to say as well as other Christians. We are living in extremely dangerous times and things are coming like we have never seen before and the time Jesus spoke of where mens hearts will fail for fear is almost upon us. We see it coming every day. Watching those videos of hundreds and thousands of war machines coming into Texas, California and Arizona made me want to vomit. I didn’t think I would live to see what I am seeing and I think you feel the same way. Without Christ, we have no hope and it’s my desire and yours to let those who still do not know Him or to not know Him as they aught to be encouraged to seek Him for that deeper relationship. Every breath we draw that enables us to speak, let it be speech that Glorified Him and not ourselves. People need the Lord…

        • cyoder

          scorp3j Wondering Woman Troubleshooter Sigh. It’s hard to argue with people with paranoia. It just fuels it. Facts don’t matter.

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle Wondering Woman scorp3j Troubleshooter We can see the predictions in Matthew,Mark, luke I &II peter, Daniel another greats books of the Bible coming to life every day in the present time.

        • Wondering Woman

          Troubleshooter Wondering Woman scorp3j Oops!  OOPS!
          My humble apology to you Troubleshooter.  I obviously need a quick lesson in interpreting how this site identifies writers.  Think I have it figured out now and I had it addressed to the right one (corp3j) the first time.   I was replying to scorp3j above your response to the same.  
          If I have this figured out right now   – the first moniker is the current one responding or replying and the following ones mean that he is responding to your reply to my remarks..  If this is wrong please correct me before I make the same mistake again. Kinda reminds me of the generation line up in some geneology books I have looked at.
          Question Troubleshooter:  Is that an army uniform in your picture???
          Still haven’t made up my mind if this guy scorp3j is one of the blind who find it more comforting not to see or another of the new world order’s shill plants to try to befuddle every issue – but either way he is definitely one poor misguided soul – or maybe not because I often wonder how anyone with  a soul would join up the likes of the new world order, knowing what their ultimate goal is.  Our Creator does command “Thou shalt not kill” and I happen to think all of his commandments are good rules to live by.

  • ATreff

    Well done WW, and thank you for the great info. Sadly, the globalist eugenics mafia is out to control everything. We must be armed with knowledge or perish.
    “My people will be destroyed for lack of knowledge.”

  • scorp3j

    Dr. Blaylock is a QUACK!!!.. 

    Question…
    Monosodium glutamate (MSG): Is it harmful? 
    What is MSG? Is it bad for you?
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/monosodium-glutamate/AN01251

  • scorp3j

    More people are getting sick  from eating Organic crops then with GM crops..
    Between 1990 and 2001, over 10,000 people fell ill due to foods contaminated with pathogens like E. coli,
    and many have organic foods to blame. That’s because organic foods tend
    to have higher levels of potential pathogens. One study, for example,
    found E. coli in produce from almost 10% of organic farms samples, but only 2% of conventional oneshttp://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/2011/07/18/mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/#10.
    The same study also found Salmonella only in samples from organic
    farms, though at a low prevalence rate. The reason for the higher
    pathogen prevalence is likely due to the use of manure instead of
    artificial fertilizers, as many pathogens are spread through fecal
    contamination. Conventional farms often use manure, too, but they use
    irradiation and a full array of non-organic anti-microbial agents as
    well, and without those, organic foods run a higher risk of containing
    something that will make a person sick.
     http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/2011/07/18/mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

    • OhioFarmer

      scorp3j seems to me that the news making major recalls of produce in the last 5 years have been from commercial operations including last years Cantaloupe problem in Indiana.  Proper food preparation of  washing of the produce  and cooking regardless of the source are the first line to preventing problems.  No farming system is exempt from E.coli and Salmonella.  the fact that you mention the used of irradiation shows it must be a problem in conventional as well.  Irradiation is a result of the major recalls and how the companies are handling the problem.
      If  the 2% was found after irradiation, I be greatly concerned of the levels before treatment or development of strains resistant to treatment.  
      The blogs you mention do not give the details of the study to judge the conclusions properly.  This gets back to the problem of research transparency, which has been totally lacking in this GMO debate.

      • Evermyrtle

        OhioFarmer scorp3j I believe yu have something there, I had not even thought of that, but it sure makes a lot of sense!

        • gnafuasusual

          Evermyrtle OhioFarmer scorp3j    I appreciate the information about organic farming. Not ever knowing if fruits and veggies are really organic grown, conventionally grown or if the seeds for such have been genetically altered, My husband has been diagnosed with lung cancer and he has never smoked anything. As youngster, tried smoking a cigarette once, nearly choked to death and that was it.  I have been washing and soaking fresh fruits and veggies (thirty minutes) in vinegar water for three years. Vinegar water only removes a certain number of pesticides but they are thoroughly as clean as I can get them before ever cutting into them.  This will not prevent harm from any foods that are genetically modified. Since Chemotherapy is simply poison, I try to use common sense in my kitchen. I watch more and more cancer wings being built onto cancer clinics/hospitals and our Oncologist said that cancer has reached epidemic proportions. The research labs have tracked some cancers to the break-down of immune systems. (That makes sense!) And, what destroys immune systems but the food/drink we put into our mouths. The liver can only cleanse a limited number of impurities.  I would also like to report that we live in an agriculture community and our honey bees have “disappeared.” Once healthy hives and now those hives are no longer active. Also, my outdoor plants form a white dust over them about August> This started in the past five years. We aren’t sure what is causing all of the crippled plants and disappearance of honey bees and butterflies that pollinate and the cancer epidemic but ‘something’ is in the “air” is disrupting our food sources. Something definitely is causing the genetically altered seeds to increase health problems.
          The next will be our water sources.  And, it won’t come from fracking for oil. The weather could have something to do with it and perhaps the sprays that are emitted from aircraft as they try to prevent “fictitious man-made global warming.” I believe humans everywhere are being “set-up” for destruction. Minimizing EPA would be a big help and downsizing FDA to people who know what they are doing would be a huge help.  Getting rid of U N would be one large improvement.
          I have researched GMO and there are pros and cons on the research that has been accomplished. I tend to believe what the French have done in their research labs.  Also, the New York Times ran an article March 29, 2013: Mystery Malady Kills More Bees Heightening Worry on Farms. Worthy reading.

        • Troubleshooter

          gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer scorp3j Research Alkaline Diets.  An Alkaline Diet can only help with your husband’s illness.  In addition, find every Scriptural reference you can to Healing, and then Meditate on them, and Stand on The Word.  I will pray for you and your husband and your family.  May The Blessings of Heaven Be poured out upon the lives of you all.  Blessed is the Name of The Lord Yeshua, God’s Messiah, in whose Precious Name I ask it.  Amen.

        • VChristineBingham

          gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer The United States saw an unprecedented wave of cancers increasing in the 60′s following in the wake of the introduction of the Simian Virus infested Polio vaccines introduced to the population. I have no time to get deeply into the subject here, but I began researching the question of vaccine efficacy and safety 15 years ago when I was pregnant with my son. I am a 16 year Army veteran, and intelligence analyst.  I applied analytical strategies to the question, reading some 25 books, and 150 articles in the process, and wound up never vaccinating my son when he was born. He’s 14 now, and we both enjoy stellar health.  He’s not been sick since ‘chickenpox’ at 6 years of age.  Nick got his babyhood sicknesses and developed naturally a solid immune system. I’m 56 and have not had more than a cold in his entire lifetime. But, and as I was saying, we avoid vaccines like the proverbial plague. The onset of routine and blanket immunizations in this nation have led to a skyrocketing of cancers, auto-immune disease, and neurological disease. Some of the very good books on the subject are:
          Vaccine A – The Covert Government Experiment That’s Killing our Soldiers,’  By Matsoumoto
          Vaccines – The Medical Assault on the American Brain, by Coulter
          A Shot in the Dark – by Coulter and Fisher
          111 Stories of Un-Vaccinated Children by Bachmair
          Last point, speaking of killing our soldiers.. I own and direct a school for 16 years now that has an international following.  A man came to me for classes about 3 years ago with his wife. He turned out to be a retired Marine Corps officer.  When he saw the bumper Sticker on my car (“Friends don’t let Friends get Vaccinated’) he told me a story.  When he was still on active duty, his higher ups had him send his men for a flu shot.  SEVEN of them died from the shot. That fact never made it into their medical records. He told me that he refused all subsequent orders from that day forward to have his men inoculated, and later took early retirement.  
          FYI: we have lost more pilots to the Anthrax shot than all of the pilots downed in the Korean Conflict (50 – 53)  
          Back in the days when the Lancet could be trusted to print research as it was published, a study (1995) by a medical researcher showed up on its venerable pages, that suggested the annual flu shot leads to Alzheimers Disease.  Now, that article cannot even be found in their archives.  Pharma has a way of buring everything true about these insidious intramuscular meds.
          But one thing is clear for anyone with the ears to hear and heart to understand, we have an epidemic of cancer and damaged children in this country, and the only possible answer to the astronomical growth of the same, is the correspondingly astronomical growth in the types and quanities of vaccines issued by ‘pseudo mandate’ to the population.
          (I say ‘pseudo’ because we are supposed to think vaccines for children are compulsory. They are NOT.  On the contrary,  ALL 50 states are compelled to accept any one, or all of  3 waivers, ‘Medical’, Philosophical, or Religious. 
          In Virginia I”ve used the religious waiver religously. My son has been to private, public, parochial schools and camps, and we have only ever handed over the waiver. God forbid that this should ever be changed.

        • gnafuasusual

          Troubleshooter gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer scorp3j   Thank You, Very Much. I do know something about acidity and alkaline and will dig deeper into it. Most of all, I thank you for your prayers!

        • gnafuasusual

          VChristineBingham gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer  Wow! I’m glad that someone with common sense and good education has come forth about the vaccines. I personally do not take flu shots. Tried once and it made me very ill. Never Again. I thank you for the wise words and warnings.  I asked my doctor’s nurse if she took the flu vaccine and she said, “NEVER!” Wash hands and keep them away from the face! A few other hints for especially flu season but washing the hands very important. Need to wash as cleansing for surgery. Lots of suds, lightly dig fingernails into the palms to clean under the fingernails with soapy hands and count to 26 or say the alphabet slowly while washing hands. Works for me. Again, Thank You.

        • scorp3j

          VChristineBinghamgnafuasusualEvermyrtleOhioFarmer..http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccines-save-lives-science-demonstrate/
           If you spend any time reading the antivaccination rants, you will
          hear about all kinds of conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, and
          scaremongering. Given that there is little scientific evidence that
          supports their beliefs, they have little choice but invent http://www.skepticalraptor.com/logicalfallacy_files/Strawman_Fallacy.html
          to make their point. One of the more amusing strategies of antivaccine
          cult is to claim that diseases were going away before vaccinations.
          These people believe, without any evidence whatsoever, http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/misconceptions-about-vaccines because of better sanitation. Or better nutrition. Or something other than what really ended these diseases–vaccines. It’s a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism of a legendary level.

          Admittedly, part of this belief is that people lack the cultural
          memory of some of these diseases. Few parents born after 1970 would
          remember classmates who had been stricken with polio. Few would have
          remember measles, mumps, or other epidemics sweeping through a school.
          They just don’t remember it, because vaccines introduced in the 50′s and
          60′s reduced, and in the case of smallpox, eliminated the disease. Of
          course, there is evidence that support the theory that vaccines end
          diseases. But we don’t have to go back 40 or 50 years to show this
          happens, but we can talk about a disease that has been drastically
          reduced in the last few years, just because of a new vaccine.
           ust for some background, http://www.cdc.gov/rotavirus/index.html that causes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroenteritis,
          an inflammation of the stomach and intestines. Rotavirus causes severe
          watery diarrhea, often with vomiting, fever, and abdominal pain. In
          babies and young children, it can lead to dehydration (loss of body
          fluids). Globally, it causes more than a half a million deaths each year
          in children younger than 5 years of age. 

          Prior to the launch of the http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/rotavirus/default.htm
          (RotaTeq® or Rotarix®) in the United States in 2006, rotavirus was the
          leading cause of severe diarrhea in infants and young children. Before
          the vaccine became available, http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5802a1.htm?s_cid=rr5802a1_e.
          Each year, in the US, rotavirus lead to more than 400,000 doctor
          visits; more than 200,000 emergency room visits; 55,000 to 70,000
          hospitalizations; and 20 to 60 deaths in children younger than 5 years
          of age. After the introduction and widespread use of the vaccine, the
          Cochrane Reviews http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23152260 that the rotavirus vaccines may prevent up to 96% of severe diarrhea cases arising from rotavirus.
          The New England Journal of Medicine http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1100062 a
          letter that graphically illustrates how the rotavirus vaccine nearly
          ended diarrhea cases in Mexico after the introduction of the vaccine.

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j VChristineBingham gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer  There is a future for people like you scrop.  And it’s pretty dark.  If I were you, i”d get an honest job and repent for your abundant sins.  The Good Book says, a liar has no place in the Kingdom of God. That day is hastening.  There is still time for you, but its running out.

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j VChristineBingham gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer  Because your mis information is so dangerous, and only for that reason, I respond to your lengthy diatribe.  Scrop, IF IF IF vaccines were the reason that any diseases disappeared (which they are not, and in fact, it is vaccines that keep diseases alive, endemic and epidemic in the world).. all you have to do is examine the fallout in the USA to see that in the tradeoff – we lost miserably.
          Ask ANY parent of an autistic child, who will suffer miserably for their ENTIRE Lifetime, often with the Measles from the MMR shot now permanently resident in their gut, causing the child endless pain in the stomach (which is why so many Autistic children rock and rock and rock while their mother’s watch in silent misery).. IF you asked these parents if the tradeoff was worth it, that is, preventing Measles with the MMR shot, or having their child become permanently autistic.. 100% of such parents say “HAD I ONLY KNOWN.. I would NEVER have given them the shot’. 
          You ought to read the German researcher (Andreas Bachmair’s) astonishing book called ‘VACCINE FREE – 111 Stories of Unvaccinated Children’, before you ever write another word here on this blog.
          Listen to the hundred plus parents from around the world who have both vaccinated, unvaccinated and a number of BOTH in their families. It is a study that the USA, the nation with the highest number of vaccinations on earth, and the highest number of VACCINATED CHILDREN on EARTH, SHOULD have committed to do.. however the people you work for do everything in their power to make sure that the public does NOT have access to the truth.. anyway getting back to this excellent book… 
          These parents are in a select position to compare.  (As I am, since I am the son of an unvaccinated 14 year old, and he is the healthiest child in his entire school of 400 kids – NEVER having sick days!!, NEVER having had a single ear infection, having NO chronic ailments of any kind, NO allergies,  and so on) 
          From the mouth of these parents comes the same report. And in the case where some of their chidlren are vaccinated (i.e.. before they discovered firsthand the dangers associated with ALUMINUM HYDROXIDE, FORMALDEHYDE, MERCURY, SQUALINE etc laden intra muscular bloodstream polluting injections.. before they saw the results in their first and unfortunate offspring, then refused the shots.. THEIR testimonies are replete with records of ‘the vaccinated children having chronic ailments (read lifetime) and getting sick CONSTANTLY, whereas the UNvaccinated children having NO ailments and NEVER getting sick.
          My guess is that either you don’t have children, or you are hiding the fact that you did not vaccinate them.  There are doctors that do that. They vaccinate kids in their clinics but keep their own children safe from such harm.
          There is a future, like I said, for people like this, and it is not pretty.
          Jesus Christ said it would be better for a man to have a millstone tied around his neck and have him thrown into the river, than to harm one of the little ones.
          Do you know what?  :My Lord is a man of war.  When he comes back, it will not be to be denied by the likes of you. It will be as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and he is going to go to war, with his saints as his army.  You better either repent and absolve yourself of your sins, or be warned. God is a Consuming Fire. These lies perpetrated by you and others like you which have resulted in the suffering of thousands of your victims, are going to be to your demise.
          Jesus Christ himself warned me about vaccines. You know why? Because I walk with him. Because I look to him for all my answers. My parents died with I was very young, and the Lord took me up.  (Psalm 27:10)  He taught me through the spirit of truth everything I ever asked him about. Vaccines became a subject of research back 15 years ago. And I was LED to ALL truth in this subject.  You know what Scorp.. the Bible says succinctly ‘The LIFE of the FLESH is in the BLOOD’.. GOD FORBID that we should pollute our bloodstream with such pernicious and toxic materials as is the sum of the ingredients of vaccines.  
          AND I WILL FINISH with this point.. going back to the subject of this provocative article.. if the VACCINE industry and the GMO industry had a product that EVERYONE wanted because they were safe and effective and health giving, THE INDUSTRIES WOULD NOT NEED TO GO AFTER GOVERNMENT MANDATES AND ILLEGITIMATE PROTECTIONS FROM LEGITIMATE LAWSUIT!!!!!  
          I REST MY CASE.  Until you are ready to get saved, don’t bother to write to me again, you’re digging your own grave until the day you are ready to repent and ask the Lord to forgive you.  He is ready, are you?

        • KenKirkham

          VChristineBingham scorp3j gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer 
          When a healthy 1 year old gets vaccinated and within 2 weeks becomes a vegetable it is not difficult to identify the cause.  Doctors just look at us puzzled and say things like this has never happened before.  After 38 years our son is in a home and can not recognize anyone or respond in any manner to stimulus.
          Keep fighting for the truth about vaccines and their threat.  Bless you.

        • scorp3j

          VChristineBinghamscorp3jgnafuasusualEvermyrtleOhioFarmer What a diatribe with out any proof, just your words, and I’m supposed to believe this BS? Post some links to your accusations and let’s see it, and where you get this info of unproven facts and made up facts..In the U.S., vaccines have reduced or eliminated many infectious
          diseases that once routinely killed or harmed many infants, children,
          and adults. However, the viruses and bacteria that cause
          vaccine-preventable disease and death still exist and can be passed on
          to people who are not protected by vaccines. Vaccine-preventable
          diseases have many social and economic costs: sick children miss school
          and can cause parents to lose time from work. These diseases also result
          in doctor’s visits, hospitalizations, and even premature deaths.

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j VChristineBingham gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer    
          You’re dead wrong. And there is no point arguing with you.
          So go vaccinate yourself and be done with it.

        • scorp3j

          VChristineBinghamscorp3jgnafuasusualEvermyrtleOhioFarmer Of course not!!! When the time comes, to post your links and prove your conspiracy theory, you run away like a little child..Is there’s a war on for your mind? lmao..

        • Evermyrtle

          VChristineBingham  scope is on of those posters has nothing to say and should be ignored. He just is so mixed up and there is no wy we can get him to think straight. .

        • gnafuasusual

          scorp3j VChristineBingham gnafuasusual Evermyrtle OhioFarmer  One thing you can do is visit the Governor of Texas and see how he made it mandatory for all young girls to get the vaccine to prevent ovarian cancer. Find out how many girls became very ill and some died from that vaccine.  Parents were not given a choice about the vaccine for their young girls. It was mandatory. With your mindset, I doubt that this will make you stop and think. As Christine said, go vaccinate yourself….

        • scorp3j

          gnafuasusualscorp3jVChristineBinghamEvermyrtleOhioFarmer..
          The analysis of data collected from about 190,000 women and girls who
          got at least one Gardasil shot found no evidence that the vaccine
          increased the risk for any serious complications, according to the
          federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
          The CDC and other major medical groups recommend girls get the
          vaccine before they become sexually active to minimize the chances of
          getting cervical cancer later in life. The http://www.cdc.gov/std/Hpv/STDFact-HPV-vaccine.htm protects against strains of the human papilloma virus (HPV) that can cause http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/cervical/.
          .http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2008/10/is_gardasil_safe.html

        • scorp3j

          EvermyrtleVChristineBingham..There you go again!! I thought you weren’t going to respond to me
          anymore..LIAR!!!! I think all you conspiracy nutjobs are very sick people..Maybe
          it’s the cow manure you ingest eating  organic food..lmao!

        • scorp3j

          EvermyrtleVChristineBingham I thought you weren’t going to respond to my post anymore…LIAR!!!!! I
          think all you conspiracy nutjobs are very sick people. Maybe it’s that cow
          manure you ingest while eating organic food..

        • scorp3j

          Evermyrtle  VChristineBingham
          I thought you weren’t going to respond to my post anymore…LIAR!!!!! I
          think all you conspiracy nutjobs are very sick people. Maybe it’s that cow
          manure you ingest while eating organic food..

        • Evermyrtle

          scorp3j Evermyrtle VChristineBingham Which one did this old liar respond to. I do not see one and I do not remember one which I responded to. and if I did, I apologize.Your post are too immature and outlandish  for a sane person to respond, so I do regret it if I did respond.

        • scorp3j

          Evermyrtle scorp3j VChristineBingham ..If you have something to say about organic’s say it, or shut the hell up..You’re very boring!!!

      • SandyTrank

        OhioFarmer scorp3j I purchase an organic dish liquid and I wash all my produce in a pan of warm soapy water and rinse well. It has never harmed the flavor one bit but I am always amazed in how dirty the water is afterwards. I make a container of fresh water after washing a few things. Rinsing in water never seemed to me to be enough Using soap with SLS, sodium laurel and it’s derivatives is not a good choice for washing bodies much less food! They use sodium laurel to clean garage floors and car engines and I don’t fit in either category. It has been found to even invade brain tissue and internal organs. It is absorbed thru the skin and causes cancer in lab animals and is extremely corrosive no matter the strength. My son began losing his hair in his 30′s.

      • Wondering Woman

        Hello Ohio Farmer, 
        Sure is refreshing to find a fellow blogger who is quoting reliable facts instead of quoting new world order propaganda outlets.

        • OhioFarmer

          Wondering Woman I find it very interesting this started as blog on the Monsanto protection in the spending bill and has evolved into this.  We all have our models of the world and try to make everything fit into that model.when it does not we find ways to make it fit.  I try to stick with just the facts as reported and verified by other 3rd parties to make judgements and create my ever changing model of the world.  I have no time for many of these conspiracy theories of government control of the environment  only God can control it.  so I stick to the simple things that I can understand.

      • scorp3j

        OhioFarmer scorp3j Yes! I agree all food products should be washed. But what I’m saying is,  organic foods tend to have higher levels of potential pathogens. One study, for example, found E. coli in produce from almost 10% of organic farms samples, but only 2% of conventional ones. The same study also found Salmonella only in samples from organic farms, though at a low prevalence rate. The reason for the higher pathogen prevalence is likely due to the use of manure instead of artificial fertilizers, as many pathogens are spread through fecal contamination.  I’ll stay with conventional farm products for safety. Why pay 20 or 30 % extra for organic products that can make you sick, plus don’t have any more nutritional value than conventional products? Organic foods are a joke, you’re paying more and making big corporations rich with this food scam.

    • VictoriaBingham

      scorp3j Organic food is no more than how food was produced for millenia.  If you assertion were correct, human life would likely have died out long ago.  Our family eats strictly organic and has for 25 years. The result? At 56 years of age I have not seen a doctor for treatment in over 14 years. We all enjoy stunning health and get the random cold maybe once every 7 years. Our grocery store eating companions enjoy no where near this level of health.
      An article in this month’s Smithsonian is intriguing.  A group of scientists went to Russia to figure out why their children, only a stone’s throw from Finland children, with the same climate, sun and soil.. yet the Finnish have an epidemic of Diabetes I in children and the Russians do not.  The amazingly simple result was that the Russian children had more exposure to the dirt of childhood play, and less exposure to doctor visits and medical care.  The Finnish children were raised in the pristine environment afforded by a higher standard of living. The result? The Russian children naturally develop strong immune systems, ergo – no chronic illness. The result of society’s penchant for playing God with food and pharmaceuticals.. abundantly evident in places like Finland and the United States.. epidemics of auto-immune diseases (Allergies, Multiple Sclerosis, Diabetes etc).  
      Enjoy your processed and chemically spawned cuisines.. we’ll stick with Organics..
      And PS.. what type of spin do you expect from a ‘Scientific American Journal BLOG??’  The medical and science communities are fully sponsored by the wildly profitable pharmaceutical industry.. Anything Monsanto and Merck and so on can do to promote medical and chemical dependency is sacrosanct.

      • scorp3j

        VictoriaBingham scorp3j  My point being is, why are we going back to the dark ages,to get our food supply. Organic pesticides used on organic farms have never really been tested for safety. Synthetic pesticides have been tested over and over again for safety, probably in all farming history.. Do people eating organic really know what they are eating? or is just because the word Organic sounds good?..

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j VictoriaBingham Your stupidity and ignorance is astonishing.

        • ObamaDualer

          Troubleshooter scorp3j VictoriaBingham So called testing is vastly over rated. Try this little experiment: bake a cake but add some backyard mud to it. Would it take a placebo controlled study to prove mud is a bad ingredient for cake? Or would you be smart enough to figure it out with the first bite?

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j VictoriaBingham I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t use pesticides on what I grow.

        • Troubleshooter

          ObamaDualer Troubleshooter scorp3j VictoriaBingham @ObamaDualer, WHY ARE YOU ADDRESSING THIS TO ME?  I didn’t say ANYTHING about TESTING.  So, There is some S*H*I*T for you, it smells bad so people won’t eat it, but if you give it your usual scrutiny the way you examine posts to see who sent them, you might just want to GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BITE, JUST TO GIVE IT THE TASTE TEST.  Pay Attention to what you say and who you say it to. I am NOT MORON-FRIENDLY.

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j VictoriaBinghamSo called testing is vastly over rated. Try this little experiment: bake a cake but add some backyard mud to it. Would it take a placebo controlled study to prove mud is a bad ingredient for cake? Or would you be smart enough to figure it out with the first bite?

        • scorp3j

          SandyTrank scorp3j VictoriaBingham  Good for you, and neither do I..But I’m talking about people who buy organic at the market and think it’s pesticide free when it’s not..Organic farms use Manure as a fertilizer and organic pesticides, that have never been checked for safety..

        • scorp3j

          Troubleshooter scorp3j VictoriaBingham  Hahahaha, you just proved you are so stupid it’s pathetic..You know nothing about organic farms or GE crops..Grow up!!!! and get educated..

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j Troubleshooter VictoriaBingham Yeah, scrop3j; I grew up on a farm getting up with the chickens and going to bed with grease from the tractor and implements under my nails, often still in the barn where I was working long after dark to be up and running again at daylight.  You’re trying to spread your manure on the wrong quarter section here a*s*s*hole.  FOAD.  Soon.

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham Scorp, In Japan, their rice crops swim in human shit. They’ve been doing that forever. The Japanese have the longest lifespans of any nation, and 126 million people live on their islands that are mostly covered with mountains.
          Ecoli isn’t the threat you want it to be, your boogie man to scare people into Frankenfoods.

        • VictoriaBingham

          scorp3j Troubleshooter VictoriaBingham Scorp – when someone resorts to personal attack, it demonstrates the intellectual incapacity to conceive of a reasonable response and conduct a logical discussion.

        • VictoriaBingham

          scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham  To all of you. If Monsanto or the Vaccine industry had a ‘safe and efficacious product’, they would not require government mandates to protect them from litigation.  That’s number one.
          Number two, God gives the Holy Spirit to any man who makes His Christ his Lord, which is also called the ‘Spirit of Truth’.  Once so filled, a man who asks to be led to truth will be so led.  The most important lesson I have learned from  37 years walking with the Lord is that truth needs to be  ‘dug for’ as for treasure. (Proverbs 2).  It will generally not be that which is commonly accepted as ‘knowledge’, for the population has been under the PSYOPS influence of the media and the agenda of the medical industry, for over 100 years.  The descent of this nation began in the nascent 20th Century and is easily documented, though there is no room for that discussion here.
          That is, truth is found NOT in the grocery store magazines, or the television news agencies, which are all programmed by the same directives, but in by ways and highways of interpersonal discussion, the internet news and blogs, and a huge assortment of printed books, which are written by maverick authors not in lock step with the burgeoning fascist influences.
          Truth is always available. Any man, so says the scriptures, that wishes to remain ignorant, let him.
          Any man who wants truth, let him first come to Christ. Then instruction in any subject of his choosing, may follow.  

          PS.. as it is written, ‘Offenses may come, but WOE unto them by whom they come’.  So some of you without manners, keep your offensive replies to yourself.  Truth is for people who love the light.

        • Evermyrtle

          Troubleshooter scorp3j VictoriaBingham corp.3j does even deserve an answer, this type of stupidly should be ignored. If we ignore them and they can get no joy out of our outrage, they will get sick of wasted efforts and disappear. You are far too intelligent to get sucked in by such ignorant people, I am assuming he was a “people”!

        • Evermyrtle

          VictoriaBingham scorp3j SandyTrank Excellent post, we need more like that on our sites. We do not see near enough about GOD AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ON HERE.  Much of what is on here are those heathens denying HIM and imperiling their souls by doing so.

        • scorp3j

          Troubleshooter scorp3j VictoriaBingham    I could care less what you do or did..All I see is that you can’t answer a question without calling people names..GROW UP! Get Educated and come back soon..
          Happy Easter.

        • scorp3j

          ObamaDualerscorp3jSandyTrankVictoriaBingham You must enjoy eating human shit..lmao!!!

          Japan Pickled Cabbage E. Coli Outbreak: At Least Six Dead, 100 Sickened 

          Biggest E. coli Outbreak in a Decade Hits Japan
           http://healthmap.org/news/biggest-e-coli-outbreak-decade-hits-japan-82112

        • SandyTrank

          VictoriaBingham scorp3j SandyTrank Most of the people here can have a civil conversation but there are a few who don’t deal well with an opposing point of view. When we receive Christ as our Lord and are filled with His Holy Spirit,we do see things in a much wider scope than some others. I agree with all I have read of your comments but I have to say I didn’t follow really close the past day or so but I am sure you aren’t too far from the mark. God Bless!

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j Troubleshooter VictoriaBingham  
          What YOU get from me is what YOU deserve. IMHO.
          And YOUR opinion Means NOTHING.
          I Celebrate Christ EVERY DAY.

        • SandyTrank

          Troubleshooter Most of the time I appreciate your posts but sometimes you go a little to far and it sounds angry and hateful. We all have to remember that as Christians in our communications. Jesus said “from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.” We as humans don’t “deserve” anything but to be case into Hell, all of us but Christ came and gave us HOPE. We as His Own must do all things to give Him Glory and not to give Him cause to be ashamed of us. HAPPY EASTER!

        • Troubleshooter

          scorp3j Troubleshooter VictoriaBingham  
          People who live in Fugway Farina Narf Carlina say that you are a lonely, miserable old recluse who has only a couple of friends.  Sorry man.  I don’t like to disparage anyone who is already as miserable as you are.  If you want, I could have some people from the church send you a card or something.   I didn’t know that your social life is limited to berating people who make you feel insufficient.  Get some rest now.

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j ObamaDualer SandyTrank VictoriaBingham Do you NOT know scorp3 that all the living creatures in the earth produce some sort of waste and then die and that is what makes the soil so rich in nutrients? The fact that China has such poor waste control is not the issue we are speaking of here is it? With all the enemies we have in the world, I would think there would be more of an effort to at least try to have a decent communication with fellow Americans. We are ALL in big trouble here and now is not the time to facilitate disunity. We all need to come together in Christ, for He is our only Hope. The enemy is not each other. We can learn from one another if we don’t fall into the trap of thinking too highly of ourselves. There is a lot of good information here.

        • Wondering Woman

          scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham According to the literature I have been reading, using any pesticide or the usual fertilizer is taboo if you are calling it organic.  As for the claims that most of the contaminated produce, that also goes against most of the information I have run across, because it seems most of the outbreaks are from produce grown on the large industrial farms.  Remember reading recently that most of the salmonella eggs come from the chickens who never get to set their feet on the ground, not from the free range chickens.
          As for the fear of using of using natural fertilizer (animal dung), I shoveled my share of chicken manure from the chicken house to the garden as a youth.  I can guarantee you that the foods we grew using manure was much tastier than what we buy in the grocery today, which may be partly attributed to the fact that we picked it ripe off the vine, so it wasn’t picked early and shipped 1500  miles to get it to me.  Also remember seeing an angel wing begonia taller than I am and when I asked her what she was feeding it, her reply was cow patty tea.  Next question was how do you make cow patty tea and the reply was you go into your neighbor’s pasture,  pick up a dry cow patty  (dung) or two and soak it in a large bucket of water and use that to water your plants.  I had never seen a begonia so large, nor have I since.  It was the healthiest looking begonia I have seen to date.  Now I have a good neighbor with a couple of horses and another with cattle grazing close by who are willing to share.  Manure tea of any kind is a great way for healthy plants of all kinds.  Florists are said to prefer rabbit manure, as sit is said to be gentler.  Most farmers that I have known do give their manure time to compost before putting it on their garden.  Folks, animal manure is one of God’s ways of recycling and you can’t improve on GOD’s plan!
          It is only when man thinks he knows better than God that our planet starts turning into desert and becomes desolate.  Following God’s plan keeps it flourishing, lush and green.

        • Wondering Woman

          VictoriaBingham scorp3j SandyTrankWhat you said about the vaccines and Monsanto GMO seeds is truth, but you should have added nor would the government be planning to mandate that everybody take the vaccines or eat the GMO produce.  Remember New York’s telling the health care workers that they would take the swine flu (H1N1 in 2009) vaccine themselves or they wouldn’t have a job.  Natural Solutions Foundation squelched that mandate in a hurry.  Forget whether it was Montana or Colorado that told their health care workers last year that if they hadn’t taken the flu shot themselves by the end of the year, they would be out of a job.  Haven’t heard how that one came out.  Does anyone out there know?

        • ATreff

          VictoriaBingham scorp3j SandyTrank
          Beautifully said Víctoria. As to the Monsanto and NWO shills who are paid to be on this site (yes, paid to be here and elsewhere on the net), to block truth and promote evil as if it were good, it is time you sell-outs turn from your darkness to Christ Justice is coming, and contrary from the lies you have been told, the master is not away, he is merely exercising his last shred of patience before he cleans house.

        • scorp3j

          Wondering Womanscorp3jSandyTrankVictoriaBinghamEat it if you like, I really don’t care.. But…According to recent data compiled by the U.S. Centers for Disease
          Control (CDC), people who eat organic and “natural” foods are eight
          times as likely as the rest of the population to be attacked by a deadly
          new strain of E. coli bacteria (0157: H7). This new E. coli is
          attacking tens of thousands of people per year, all over the world. It
          is causing permanent liver and kidney damage in many of its victims. The
          CDC recorded 2,471 confirmed cases of E. coli 0157: H7 in 1996 and
          estimated that it is causing at least 250 deaths per year in the United
          States alone. YES!!! large Organic Farms do use organic pesticides that have never been tested for safety..

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham 
          NOW I KNOW you’re a TROLL>  The CDC is in bed with the AMA and the FDA which is in cahoots with BIG PHARMA and all of the other alphabet soup agencies that are pushing garbage down our collective throats.  You’d do well to sign off scrop. No one will listen to you. You are as pathenogenic as your sources.

        • Wondering Woman

          scorp3j Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham 
          Give it up scorp3 – most of us have already learned that we can’t trust the CDC for truth any more than we could the scientist who lied about global warming.  Strange that no one else but you knows these statistics from CDC though.  Perhaps just some more disinformation from a planted shill?  All we need do is look at those who are eating organic to see that they look and act much healthier.  
          We also have enough intelligence to look at the CDC still swearing that their vaccines are not only safe but life threatening if we don’t submit and take them.  
          Just as in the gun control fanatics who publish bogus statistics on the percentage of the American citizens, and find it is not going to fly, because the statistics are the opposite of what they say.  Historical research says exactly the opposite – as gun ownership rises, the crime rate sinks because the criminals prefer unarmed victims & gravitate to .
          Most people are intelligent enough to go on line and look up some historical research  and come up with truth they can believe.  If the CDC was really interested in our health and the health of our children, why haven’t they bothered to see how the records of those who do not vaccinate compare to those of us who do.   Try it yourself and you will pull up the information on the 2 doctors who say they do not vaccinate and there is not a single case of autism among their pediatric patients.  This is why the CDC never gives any statistics comparing those who are vaccinated with those populations who aren’t.   The Amish  do not vaccinate and have no autism, and I’ll also bet that you will also find that Alzheimer’s disease and other dementia’s are just as rare, because they still farm like the pioneers did,  still use manure for fertilizer – suspect that they don’t plant Monsanto GMO seeds, don’t shoot their cows full of BGH and still drink raw milk. They grow their own food and can their own food, which means that they aren’t getting all the toxins from out highly processed foods, like we do.  The only Amish patient I ever saw in a hospital was there because a mule kicked him in the face.  I would have to say that if the only time they need hospitalization is for accidents, they have to be much healthier than we who depend on supermarkets are.

        • Wondering Woman

          VChristineBingham scorp3j Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham  Hi Christine, you stopped short of naming the ones behind all the ones you mentioned – the new world order elitists who think they are descended from the Gods, and should rule the entire planet and everybody and everything on it.  Anybody with one eye and half sense stopped believing their lies about desiring to save the planet long ago.
          Guess they have been spending so wildly that they really are on their last legs, since I was just reading an e mail that IMF (International Monetary Fund) has now proposed that Americans start paying $l.40 tax per gallon  of gasoline.  IMF is just another new world order agency, the same as the UN (United Nations).  Seems the IMF has already raided private citizens bank accounts to bail out Cyprus.  Don’t know about the rest of you but too much of our tax money is already going to fund the new world order puppets (criminals) on the federal payroll.  
          Perhaps it is time to start looking for a good class action law firm to file a lawsuit in international court to force all our elected officials who have looted funds that we have paid into all these years (like SS and medicare) to waste on pork projects (how many of those underground cities for the elite to hide in did those looted funds pay for?)  replace those stolen funds.  We should all rise up and tell our elected officials that we will pay no taxes to anyone else for any cause, until we get this nation back on its feet and headed in the right direction.

        • Wondering Woman

          VChristineBingham scorp3j Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham 
          Just went looking for the definition and came up with a blank – pathogenic, I could find.  Could you fill me in on the definition of this word, or were you possibly thinking of pathological, like in a  pathological  liar?  Thanks!

        • scorp3j

          Wondering Woman scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham Just as I said before, the above statement means nothing to me without proof. It’s all just your made up opinion you get from conspiracy blogs.. Are you afraid to post a link to anything you have said? Let’s face the fact’s, you are just a  doom and gloom conspiracy theorist with no proof the back up anything..You’re just wasting my time with your conspiracy theories..I can debunk anything you post with proof, with Scientific evidence..You can’t and will not..

        • scorp3j

          VChristineBingham scorp3j Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham  Grow up and get educated, I can tell you’re just a DRONE and don’t have the gut’s to debate me with Scientific proof, just your  BS…I dare you to post links and prove me wrong!

        • RobertKimble

          Wondering Woman VChristineBingham scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham You must be reading some garbage out there and there is a ton of lies.  But here is the truth.  Two months ago Heather Tucci, who is one of the three writers of the OPPT) stated that the UN, IMF and World Bank have been foreclosed.  What that means to her is that they have not been getting one red cent from anywhere and are basically ghost operations.  I would imagine when NESARA is announced that these 3 and just about every other organization in the world will be on a huge list of abolished organizations.  Seriously don’t believe a lot of what is even on this internet.

          Robert Kimble

        • cyoder

          scorp3j VChristineBingham Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham Amen. I’ve checked out some of their links, and the “proof” they present is the rantings of other paranoiacs. It’s circular reasoning.  A believes it because B says it’s so; B believes it because A says it’s so. No independent proof. I’d consider these things more seriously if they could come up with plausible scientific proof. Much of this can spread only because of scientific illiteracy, it’s so absurd.

        • ObamaDualer

          cyoder scorp3j VChristineBingham Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham 
          Cyoder, you and the rest have avoided what this article is about. This article concerns a law that usurps judicial review!
          We are supposed to have separation of powers. This rider subverts that separation of power. 
          You claim the “other side” is illiterate, yet you were unable to read the article and respond to the question it raises. That inability doesn’t reflect to well on your critical skills.

        • ObamaDualer

          scorp3j Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham You seem to think 250 deaths in a year’s time in a population of over 300 million is statistically meaningful. Life is a risk and everyone dies of something.
          But since you are concerned about a cause of death that is so tiny, you must be opposed to aspirin as well since it sends 250 people to the emergency room every day. About 13,500 die from aspirin and other NSAIDS each year due to strokes and internal bleeding. Then there is Tylenol. Tylenol is a well known liver destroyer.

        • VChristineBingham

          Wondering Woman VChristineBingham scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham  Hello Woman! I am aware of the cabal behind the organizations I mentioned, and I’ll go you one further.. if we are to drop the tree, we truly need to chop at its roots, which are spiritual.  The elitists finally are worshippers of the god of this earth, having been, as our Lord was, offered the kingdoms of this world, and unlike Jesus Christ, did not refuse the offer – which I might add – was the devil’s to give, else the Lord would have paid him no mind. 
          The only weapons finally are spiritual indeed. And the mightiest of these is prayer. Though as a very wise man of God once pointed out, powerful and effective prayer, must be guided prayer. That is why I rail on the saints in America to ‘not be ignorant’. They fiddle with their Bible studies, while Rome (as it were) burns.
          Our remarkably sagacious Founding Fathers not only knew the international score, as we see by the astonishing prescience of their warnings from hundreds of years back, which apply so succinctly today, but by their genuinely God inspired documents which did steer the course of this ship through so many perilous reefs of times past. However they could not, as I deign to suggest – nor can God Almighty – make men believe HIM.  They cannot make men turn from their greed, pernicious ways, lusts of the things seen by the eyes, or love for darkness. For them as Peter said, are reserved unto the day of judgment to be punished. .. as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, which speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption’.  
          That everything transpiring around us is written.. remains for this saint, both consolation and prodigious encouragement to pursue that which is right and best, to warn those with the ears to hear – that finally we might all pray with precision and hope unto a better resurrection.
          PS (My name is Victoria Christine. Somehow I am appearing with 2 different names but all ‘Bingham’comments are mine.
          God bless you.

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j VChristineBingham Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham 
          Scorp, No one is interested in proving anything to you. As the Good Book says, ‘if a man wants to be ignorant, let him be’. So be it. 
          If you want wisdom go to God who will not upbraid you.

        • VChristineBingham

          ObamaDualer cyoder scorp3j VChristineBingham Wondering Woman SandyTrank VictoriaBingham  Read the article yourself and glean what you will. Then write your own erudite summaries and conjectures. But take some of your own advice, and reserve your comments for the article.

        • ATreff

          Wondering Woman VChristineBingham scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham there is a war going on in this action and the banking mafia takes no prisoners.
          https://www.google.com/search?q=$43+trillion+lawsuit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#sclient=tablet-gws&hl=en&client=safari&q=%2443+trillion+lawsuit+story+removed+after+killings&oq=%2443+trillion+lawsuit+story+removed+after+killings&gs_l=tablet-gws.3…1884.11837.0.12303.29.29.0.0.0.0.305.3646.12j14j2j1.29.0…0.0…1c.1.8.tablet-gws.zNMK6Uhwhkk&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.&bvm=bv.44697112,d.cGE&fp=7e6e843dddafcfbb&biw=768&bih=928

        • ATreff

          Wondering Woman VChristineBingham scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham nation, not action

        • Wondering Woman

          scorp3j VictoriaBingham scorp3j -Maybe you should do a little research on “organic pesticides”.  It might surprise you to learn that organic pesticide can be as simple as planting marigolds alongside your vegetables in the garden because they repel insects.  As for testing of the synthetics – yes, they sometimes are, but they are taken off the market after they are found to cause severe and drastic adverse effects.  The natural pesticides are provided by our Creator!  Who among us consider ourselves wiser than our Creator, and qualified to render a judgement on his creations.
          You might also learn that taking a teaspoon of garlic the night before hiking in the woods will keep you virtually chigger and tick free.  It also works very well if you spray apple cider vinegar  (distilled might work as well, since you seem to prefer synthetics) on your skin and let it dry, before dressing and foraging in the woods/fields.   The ACV also works to keep those dratted sand flies in Florida from eating you alive, as long as you don’t sweat it off or get into the ocean and it washes off.
          If you happen to be allergic to poison ivy, you might be interested to know that if you are aware when you have made contact with this dreaded, but beautiful vine, or its cousin, poison oak – soak a washcloth in apple cider vinegar and apply to every area of contact.  Before you start scathing again – I happened to read that the substance on the vine that caused the rash/itching misery is an alkali.  So next time I got into it, I decided to try to see if ACV would work – and Hooray – it did.  In the scientific world of chemistry this is called titrating an alkali with an acid.
          I notice that you keep asking for links.  Many of us have given you information on how to research sites or how to just research a question you are curious about, but you don’t seem to be interested in doing anything on your own.  As for that, my friend, we also do not see links to these bogus statistics that you like to toss around.  Perhaps you should spend less time scathing and more time researching in areas of interest.

        • scorp3j

          Wondering Womanscorp3jVictoriaBingham..
          Organic Food Companies Are Owned by Mega Corporations and I don’t think they are using marigolds as a pesticide on these giant farms.. lol The sad truth is, factory farming is factory farming, whether its
          organic or conventional. Many large organic farms use pesticides
          liberally. They’re organic by certification, but you’d never know it if
          you saw their farming practices. They’re organic by the letter, not organic in spirit… if most organic
          consumers went to those places, they would feel they were getting ripped
          off.
           Take the example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotenone. Rotenone was widely used in the US as an organic pesticide for decades http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/2011/07/18/mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/#3. Because it is natural in origin, occurring in the roots and stems of a small number of subtropical plants, it was considered “safe” as well as “organic“.
          However, research has shown that rotenone is highly dangerous because
          it kills by attacking mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of all living
          cells. Research found that exposure to rotenone caused Parkinson’s
          Disease-like symptoms in rats http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/2011/07/18/mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/#4, and had the potential to kill many species, including humans.

        • Wondering Woman

          RobertKimble Wondering Woman VChristineBingham scorp3j SandyTrank VictoriaBingham Thanks Robert K for introducing me to another site.  Just typed Heather Tucci into my search windown and did some fast skimming.
          My God,  Unbelievable that one little female banking lawyer can out think, out plan, out do and outwit this cabal.  Have to get back to that OPPT tomorrow and feast & try to digest, while analyzing.
          Wonder how our corrupt administration in Washington, DC would feel if all of us looked up the voting records of all of our local career politicians (and Dr. Ron Paul’s to compare them to) and sent each of them one of those Courtesy notices outlining all the times they have voted outside the guidelines of the Constitution?
          Betcha you’d never hear another senator make a crass remark like the one who said “most people don’t value the constitution  these days.
          PS – Don’t forget the IRS, FDA, USDA, DHA, SS, Janet Napolitano and all those other federal agencies buying up all that excessive ammo when you send out those Notices of Courtesy

        • ATreff

          Gee scorp3j, do all you illuminati wannabes blatantly shovel the bs as badly as you do, or are you merely so bad at it that you are really easy to catch when you do? I have watched you lie repeatedly about subjects, then when caught, you resort back to old faithful “conspiracy theorists”. Time for a new routine perhaps?
          So much for open public access to the HAARP facilities.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYeoCmoic70

    • cyoder

      scorp3j A year or two ago Prevention magazine had an article on organic foods that were not worth the extra price  because of the conditions under which they are grown. What you are seeing is very much true.

      • ObamaDualer

        cyoder scorp3j That gives me an idea. Let’s pass a law that forbids judges from finding organic foods unsafe based on present law. That’s what Monsanto is getting with this new law if it is signed.

    • Troubleshooter

      scorp3j You pathetic incompetent.  E. coli, is everywhere; in the soil, in the water, in the air; Everywhere.  Proper handling and cooking of foods is what prevents illness from harmful bacteria.  The corruption of the plants and animals that God gave us for food is what causes illness.  In fact, it is very simple to identify the cause of illness.  It is caused by too much acidity in the human tissues.  In every case, with every disease, Acid/Alkaline Imbalance is the cause of the vulnerability and the development of the problems.  Diseases are cured every day by Alkaline Food Diet.  Of course, it cuts into the profits of all of your friends.

      • Wondering Woman

        Troubleshooter scorp3j You are right on that one troubleshooter.  Have you heard of Dr. Simochini and his sodium bicarbonate therapy for cancer?  If not type “baking soda therapy for cancer” into your search window and enjoy.  Seems that the Italians have the idea that you will always find a white blob on the xray of every cancer patient, which is a mold or fungal growth.  They work on the theory that baking soda kills the mold and the cancer goes away on its own. I personally know of one fellow who said that his stomach cancer is cured and gone thanks to using the baking soda and asparagus.  Both can be found on line.
        Much can also be found on line by typing “systemic candidiasis albicans”, but little is to be found in medical literature, which makes me suspect that this is because the nwo has found it to be very useful in their ultimate goal of reducing worldwide population by 95%.  I first read of this in an Omni Magazine article titled “The Hidden Epidemic” written by a Dr. Truss who was in practice in Alabama at the time.   Funny, but when I went to Omni Magazines archives to try to find the article to e mail it to an interested friend, I found a lot of articles titled “The Hidden Epidemic” but none of them was the one I was hunting for.  If any of you have a collection of  Omni that date back into the 80′s and have this I sure would appreciate a copy of it.  Now ask yourself who & why would anyone want to hide this information and keep it out of the medical literature or keep it from being taught in medical school?  Dr. Truss saw the patient that sent him down the path of digging into systemic candidiasis in 1958 and that is a long time to keep the public in the dark about something as serious as this.

        • scorp3j

          Wondering WomanTroubleshooterscorp3j ..Dr. Simochiniis was found to be a QUACK and his license to practice medicine has been withdrawn..Baking soda is great for heartburn,but not for cancer…

           http://mymalignantmelanoma.blogspot.com/2009/01/tullio-simoncini.html

  • ObamaDualer

    What hasn’t been discussed here is that this article is talking about an usurpation of the separation of powers between the three branches of government.
    This rider is attempting to tell the courts they don’t have judicial review of a law. It’s a despotic power grab by Monsanto since they are apparently the real authors of the law. Under normal circumstances, courts wouldn’t just toss it out, they would set fire to it. With today’s judiciary, however, there is no telling how they will act.
    Officially they work through Congressman Blunt, who is the biggest recipient of Monsanto donations in the House.

  • fatman45

    <b>”This abuse of power is not the kind of leadership the public has come to expect from Senator Mikulski or the Democratic Majority in the Senate.”</b>
    That may not be the kind of leadership this lefty idiot has come to expect, but it certainly <b>is</b> what I’ve come to expect from the DemocRAT leadership!

  • RobertKimble

    The other scarey thing about HAARP is that it ia powerful mind control weapon.  Think about many of these shooting/suicide maniacs were conrolled by the tyrannical government running America.  I don’t trust the government on anything and I would venture to say that they are behind all these murders

    • Troubleshooter
    • SandyTrank

      RobertKimble  With all that we have seen so far of them, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit. They are proAgenda 21 and according to what I read on the UN site, the earth’s population must be decreased by 85% to save on the earths resources. How else do they do that?

      • Troubleshooter

        SandyTrank RobertKimble  
        @SandyTrank and @VictoriaBingham; It seems to me that there are many people who frequent this site who have done far less research on many of the topics broached by Livefyre.  I find myself having to explain things and provide direction to people who can or need to learn to research their information deficits for themselves.  In addition, I am noticing that there are people here who are not aware of Christ’s Instruction that when Our Shalom is rejected, we owe those who reject Him no further kindness.  I also believe that sometimes, the only way you can get through to people is to be direct and harsh with them.  Some of the comments I have heard here remind me of one of the most disgusting things I heard lately; that being the orders given by Barack Obama to our troops to refrain from saying anything that might offend our enemies or hurt their feelings.  I don’t roll that way.  Because I feel like I am wasting my time here, this is my last post on this site.  I hope that reality doesn’t come too suddenly or too aggressively for those of you who are not quite aware of it.

        • Troubleshooter

          SandyTrank RobertKimble One more thing; Loving Your Neighbor does not mean indulging them in their ignorance or crude and stupid remarks and behavior.  It takes greater Love to admonish in whatever way is necessary, not whatever way is friendly and convenient.  Grace Be Unto You All.

        • SandyTrank

          Troubleshooter SandyTrank RobertKimble  It is true that we don’t indulge ignorance but it can be kinder in most instances. The Lord indulges ours all the time. I have learned things since I came to the site. I haven’t ever involved myself with them mostly because after reading an article and checking the rude and ignorant comments, I would just leave the site. With all that is happening now, I find I have to try to glean from others because we can’t any of us be everywhere and it helps to pool if you will, our knowledge. This is by far the most civil blog I have ever seen and it’s sad you are leaving it because I have learned from you too.

        • Wondering Woman

          Troubleshooter SandyTrank RobertKimble Like the kindly way you put that Troubleshooter.
          Honesty goes a long way where I come from and we are seeing less and less of it from our government daily.

        • Evermyrtle

          Troubleshooter SandyTrank RobertKimble You should not leave. You have helped a lot of people who needed just such advice and comments that you give. Some of which never even makes comments or answer. There are more than enough whose comments need to be offset by the sensible comments that you make that you make. Don’t be mistaken in thinking that your comments do not count, are not read, or are not what many do not want to read, there are more who do want to read them and will miss you if you are no longer on here with us. What you call harsh comments, I call blunt comments and as you said it is sometimes necessary to comment in that manner. I do my best but I cannot do anything near as well as you can d expressing myself.  I remember I in one or two comment to you was very rude and hateful , I want to apologize. Please changee your mind and stick it out.
          I only just read your comment or I would have answered sooner.

  • cyoder

    http://weather.yahoo.com/storm-became-big-enough-span-atlantic-165848194.html
    This link which you had in one of your posts. It doesn’t say what you claim.

    • Troubleshooter

      cyoderIf you are referring to my mention of H.A.A.R.P. and CHEMTRAILS, and DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS, those are OLD< OLD, admissions from two and three years ago, including Interviews with Air Force Personnell and Private, Commercial Pilots and Contractors.  You can look up H.A.A.R.P. for your self, as well as Directed Energy Weapons.  There is a Meteorologcal Organization which monitors H.A.A.R.P. and CHEMTRAIL activity, with Satelite Imagery and Weather Radar and Geological Survey Proof.  They were up and running during SANDY, and demonstrated live poroof beyond doubt of the H.A.A.R.P. and ChemTrailing Activity contributing to the STORM’s behavior.  This link may provide you with some insight with regard to Directed Energy Weapons.
      http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/03/latest-non-lethal-weapons-arsenal-buildup-of-weapons-by-the-dhs-2467814.html?utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse&utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Fus-mg4.mail.yahoo.com%2Fneo%2Flaunch%3F.rand%3D3tj7ilsc9b3n7&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2Fp036&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=verticalresponse

      • Troubleshooter

        cyoder PS, I thought everyone who cares was aware of H.A.A.R.P. and CHEMTRAILING, Etc.  The link you first posted a response from is just a Heads-Up for those who already know.

      • SandyTrank

        Troubleshooter cyoder  I took the liberty of copying and pasting your link Trouble, hope you don’t mind. I don’t know a lot about HAARP and I need to know…Thanks!

        • Troubleshooter

          SandyTrank Troubleshooter cyoder @SandyTrank; You are welcome.  Jesse Ventura actually investigated the H.A.A.R.P. site (one of the two) in Alaska, and he talked to some of the people who helped build it.  He also conducted investigations on Directed Energy Weapons, Taxpayer funded Underground Cities and Highways, and other very interesting issues.  I believe that he still provides archived access to the TruTv broadcasts of his show, Conspiracy Theory.  Although he is an Atheist, He was also a Navy Seal, and The Governor of Minnesota.  He is brutally honest, and I trust him.

  • scorp3j

    This site has become a heaven for Alex Jones Conspiracy Theories..HARRP
    & Chemtrails.. all BUNK and a HOAX with no facts..Both are OLD conspiracy
    theories that have been debunked over and over again for the last 15
    years.

    First of all, there’s nothing remotely secret or even classified about
    HAARP. No security clearance is needed to visit and tour the site, and HAARP
    usually holds an open house every summer during which anyone can see everything
    there. During the rest of the year, research is conducted. The universities that
    have participated in HAARP research include University of Alaska, Stanford, Penn
    State, Boston College, Dartmouth, Cornell, University of Maryland, University of
    Massachusetts, MIT, Polytechnic University, UCLA, Clemson and the University of
    Tulsa. There are several other similar research stations around the world,
    namely the EISCAT in Norway, the Arecibo observatory in Puerto Rico, and the
    HIPAS observatory near Fairbanks, operated by UCLA. Do your own search and check
    it out for yourself..Don’t be an Alex Jones DRONE!!!

    • RaziWhitmaine

      scorp3j
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
       “The most prominent instrument at the HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high-power http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmitter facility operating in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency (HF) band. The IRI is used to temporarily excite a limited area of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere.”
      “The IRI can transmit in continuous waves (CW) or in pulses as short as
      10 microseconds (µs). CW transmission is generally used for ionospheric
      modification, while transmission in short pulses frequently repeated is
      used as a radar system.”

       EISCAT, Arecibo use incoherent scatter radar
      http://www.haystack.mit.edu/atm/mho/iswg/isrlist.html
      HIPAS was the precursor to HAARP
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPAS_Observatory

      Book concerning questions surrounding HAARP

      http://www.amazon.com/Angels-Dont-Play-This-Haarp/dp/0964881209

      • scorp3j

        RaziWhitmainescorp3j … HAARP is the subject of numerous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories. Various individuals have speculated hidden motives and capabilities to the project, to the scientifically uninformed, and that makes HAARP susceptible to conspiracy theories..
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University professor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umran_Inan told http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Science
        that weather-control conspiracy theories were “completely uninformed,”
        explaining that “there’s absolutely nothing we can do to disturb the
        Earth’s [weather] systems. Even though the power HAARP radiates is very
        large, it’s minuscule compared with the power of a lightning flash—and
        there are 50 to 100 lightning flashes every second. HAARP’s intensity is
        very small.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#cite_note-PopSci-3
        Computer scientist David Naiditch characterizes HAARP as “a magnet
        for conspiracy theorists”, saying that HAARP attracts their attention
        because “its purpose seems deeply mysterious to the scientifically
        uninformed”.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#cite_note-Naiditch-4 Journalist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Weinberger called HAARP “the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_Dick
        of conspiracy theories” and said the popularity of conspiracy theories
        often overshadows the benefits HAARP may provide to the scientific
        community.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#cite_note-Nature-22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#cite_note-Wired-23 Austin Baird writing in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Dispatch
        said, “What makes HAARP susceptible to conspiracy criticism is simple. 
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#cite_note-Alaska_Dispatch-17

        • ATreff

          scorp3j RaziWhitmaine :  Uneducated scorp3j?  Maybe we ARE the educated, and you are uneducated as to these many issues?   I could go into HAARP in depth, but perhaps I should merely ask if you know more about the matter than the United States Secretary of Defense under Bill Clinton – William Cohen.  Irrespective, please do not insult our intelligence anymore with your agenda-oriented comments.
          “Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It’s real, and that’s the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts.” 
          Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.
          Scalar weapons are HAARP weapons.  In fact, the US Navy has already indicated it will control the weather and weaponize it by no later than 2026.  It is also interesting that the UN nations have already entered into a treaty in which no nation could use these true weapons of mass destruction on each other.  A last interesting note is that the UN specifically left out the concept of these nations using this destructive technology upon their own people.  Coincidence or convenience? These three examples of formal record make your comments that they cannot control the weather, cause earthquakes, etc..  as completely incorrect – evidencing that you are either the “uneducated: one or you are here with an agenda.  
          It is time for you to be humble and get a clue, and to cease the personal attacks on people for merely seeking the truth.  If you are here with an agenda, as many are hired by the New World Order to be when posting on the net, then it is time for you to get a soul.

        • VChristineBingham

          ATreff scorp3j RaziWhitmaine Very Interesting Letter Treff. !  In the final analysis, we can thank trolls like we have here, for provoking such informative discourse as yours.

        • RaziWhitmaine

          scorp3j
          “The Environmental Modification Convention (ENMOD), formally the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques is an international http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty
          prohibiting the military or other hostile use of environmental
          modification techniques. It opened for signature on 18 May 1977 in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva and entered into force on 5 October 1978. The Convention bans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_warfare, which is the use of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_modification techniques for the purposes of inducing damage or destruction. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Biological_Diversity of 2010 would also ban some forms of weather modification or geoengineering.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention#cite_note-2
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention

        • scorp3j

          ATreff scorp3j RaziWhitmaine  Again all bs made and  up crap, with no links..When are you conspiracy drones going to learn…Post links with your Conspiracy theories..I’d like to see what paranoid nutjob you’re getting this info from…Please post your links, so we can all see..

        • scorp3j

          ATreffscorp3jRaziWhitmaine…Again all bs made and  up crap, with no links..When are you conspiracy
          drones going to learn…Post links with your Conspiracy theories..I’d
          like to see what paranoid nutjob you’re getting this info from…Please
          post your links, so we can all see..

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j ATreff RaziWhitmaine   SCORP – stop saying ‘WE’.  You are, so far as any of us can see, the only troll in this discussion. Do the rest of us a favor and withdraw your unwelcome  commentary and childish insults.

        • scorp3j

          VChristineBingham scorp3j ATreff RaziWhitmaine  Hahahahaha..All you conspiracy Alex Jones nutjobs are the same..You’re so paranoid it’s pathetic..Get a life, you’re sick with your nujob theories..I can’t believe people like you are so stupid and gullible. Get educated!!!!!!. There is no Illuminati,or NWO!!!  Chemtrails and HARRP are the biggest HOAX, SCAM and BS ever made up by the Alex Jones nutjob’s, and you believe this crap…..LMAO!!!! 
          I’ll be back!!!

        • Evermyrtle

          scorp3j I have learned that the more stupid a person is,the more likely he or she is to call others stupid. You never see this used in any post that makes sense. Of course it is not only the stupid,  that do this but some are are double handicapped, they have no level of decency, raising,or wisdom or what is  the approved, acceptable way to relate to others.

        • scorp3j

          Evermyrtle scorp3j  Thanks for your stupid response..Before you accuse me of calling people names. Go back and look at the names others have called me..Call me a name, and you’ll get it right back in spades..GOT IT?

          Have a nice day!

        • Evermyrtle

          scorp3j Evermyrtle  You can lie with he best of them. your name calling is a real talent, you have. The less wisdom you have the more you depend on  name calling because that is ll you can think of to say.

        • scorp3j

          Evermyrtle scorp3j.. Another stupid response from the uneducated..Prove me a liar or shut the hell up!!

          Have a Nice Day!!!

        • SandyTrank

          scorp3j Evermyrtle Most of us have had enough of you; if anyone does you need to be the one to shut up. Get off Myrtle, she doesn’t deserve to be talked to that way, in fact nobody does. You said “others” have called you, I don’t see that coming from Myrtle, in fact she has tried to be nice to you. You owe her a public apology. All you want to do is argue so I for one will ignore you from now on.

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank  Thank You Sandy for your faith in me. I do not remember any name calling that I have ever done. I always considered that a cheap shot. I too will say goodbye to this person.

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle He is a piece of work and I know you do your best to stay focused on Christ as you respond and I have been around you long enough to know you are not an offensive person and he just takes the cake. I read his nasty comment and couldn’t let him get away with that without at least standing by you. He’s way beyond learning anything new or being corrected on anything. I’m not totally ignorant of world happenings and I am glad to get a new tip from someone that I can research and check out myself. I remember a scene in the Cosby show when Sandra met a man and kept it secret and by the time she introduced him to her family and they were angry that they were the last to hear about her marriage plans. Mr.Huxtable said to the intended, in describing a deliciously prepared steak to give him and when he admitted he would love to receive that from him; Mr Huxtable said how good would it look if I served it to you on a garbage can lid and the intended was taken back by that and he said that is how Sandra presented you to us…it’s all in the delivery! The family ended up liking him and their daughter lost interest in him! haha I loved that show! I don’t like, however, what they are showing now a lot and that the episodes after that series ended with other people and they are pretty crude. It’s not at all like the one in the 80′s.

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle Usually I try to give advice or information which help who ever I am making comments to. Sometime it is very difficult to know what to say, sometime it is harsh. But when we think about what JESUS HE did not “bite words” and was rather harsh also. Sometime that is the only way to get the message across. I try to ignore such garbage, and think maybe I shouldn’t answer at all. As in the Huxtables, at the time it was one of the more respectable and did stick to a more honorable show. It seems that instead of trying to produce something that is both entertaining and something that can lead you audience in a meaningful life they just go along with the times. I seldom watch TV except the News and a few old standbys. Thanks again. Myrtle

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle SandyTrank Me too. Sometimes we have to be blunt. I have done it myself but the name is not my usual method. I’m not above it tho! :)  Some of the discussions I pass up. The guys sometimes just want to have a spirited debate and that’s fine with me. The Huxtables were just as you say, entertaining but not without a message. It was tough love sometimes and the kids were regular kids but the love was there. When Cliff would play and talk to the kids it would just crack me up. I got more good healthy laughs out of that show. I too watch the oldies. The INSP network is a regular at my house with Little House, Waltons, and their movies are usually good too. There are two new ones on this weekend that I am going to try and record because they sound really good. I love stories from the Victorian times and pioneer days. Those times were so refreshing next to what we have now and is very relaxing for me. I couldn’t handle the violence or the twisting of Scripture in the Bible series. I didn’t want to see Sampson’s eyes gouged out etc. Don’t like that stuff. I find it very unnerving. The only violence I have tolerated in recent years is in Left Behind when the antichrist was getting his. Now that I liked to see. Too bad we don’t live close to one another. We could spend hours sitting on my front porch or yours sipping sun tea and visiting.Your welcome, Myrtle.

        • scorp3j

          SandyTrank scorp3j Evermyrtle  Stop your whining your making me cry  booo hooo..I never said Myrtle had personally called me names. But others here have..But I’m a big boy and can take it..I will not take your BS or anybody else’s, without a reaction back from me…You don’t like what I have to say, tough!!! than don’t respond to my opinion and facts..
          Have a Nice Evening Ladies!!

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle Reading you comments, here I could have written that , not as well I’m afraid but the ideas are almost exactly as I think.

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle I have thought we were a lot alike in more ways than one just from our conversations these past months. We are sisters!   :)

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle  Indeed ,”joined together at the heart by the LOVE OF GOD”Because of our love for HIM and HIS love for us as we are joined to all who love HIM as we do.

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle SandyTrank Isn’t God Good?  :)

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle He is wonderful, HE is all we need to be safe from the evils surrounding us.

        • SandyTrank

          EvermyrtleYes, He is and He can be trusted with anything we will ever need.

        • Evermyrtle

          RaziWhitmaine scorp3j Thank you so much for sharing this information, information that most would never have seen if you had not shared. DO not allow the ignornant wannabees bother you. Jealousy is a very destructive thing.

        • wdm

          corp3j    Methinks you attack the people too often. This is what peeps do when they have no facts to present, they attack the character of the other debater. You have nothing (evidence) from independent and reliable sources to present. IOW, you have all the earmarks of a paid shill. BTW, Alex Jones is controlled opposition (he protects Zionists) but if you discount that part he does impart more usable info than the 5 TV networks combined.

        • scorp3j

          wdm …I’m laughing my butt off, listening to you.  It’s like the pot calling the kettle black….You Conspiracy theorist just make shit up as you go along, with no proof at all except what Alex Jones tells you.. You’re all nothing but a bunch of drones that have been brainwashed and afraid to validate anything that your leader AJ has said…Instead calling it infowars, he should change it to the Drone Network…lmao!!

      • Evermyrtle

        RaziWhitmaine scorp3j Again. than you for taking the time and sharing with us. This is wonderful eyeopening posts.

  • scorp3j

    The Chemtrail Conspiracy Theory
    Hoax for the Alex Jones DRONES!!!

     Contrails Through History

    Theorists claim: Contrails used to dissipate in a few seconds, minutes at
    most.
    But they didn’t. There’s a huge amount of evidence (in addition to lots of
    people remembering persistent contrails). It dates back to 1918,
    and continues up to the present day.
    http://contrailscience.com/contrail-photos-through-history/ – Fifty photos of persisting and spreading contrails
    from 1950 to 1995. Taken from people’s old photo albums, and old books. Also
    links to other similar collections.
    http://contrailscience.com/life-magazine-contrail-photos/ – Eleven photos that appeared in Life Magazine from 1940 to
    1998 show persisting and spreading contrails.
    http://contrailscience.com/wwii-contrails/ – A large
    collection of photos showing persisting and spreading contrails from WWII in the
    1940s.
    http://contrailscience.com/pre-wwii-contrails/
    The History of contrails dating back to 1918, with the first persistent
    spreading contrail observed in 1921
    Chemical Tests, Aluminum, Barium, Etc.
    Theorist claim: Chemical tests reveal aluminum and barium have been
    sprayed
    In reality the tests all show normal levels of chemicals. They were often
    very badly performed testing soil instead of water, and confusing the level, or
    using the wrong units of measurements. Aluminum is the most abundant metallic
    element in the earth’s crust, about 8% of the ground is aluminum. In some
    places..

    • RaziWhitmaine

      scorp3j 
      “Cloud seeding, a form of intentional http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_control, is the attempt to change the amount or type of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precipitation_%28meteorology%29 that falls from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud, by dispersing substances into the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air that serve as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_condensation_nuclei or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_nucleus,
      which alter the microphysical processes within the cloud. The usual
      intent is to increase precipitation (rain or snow), but hail and fog
      suppression are also widely practiced in airports.
      This image explaining cloud seeding shows the chemical either silver
      iodine or dry ice being dumped onto the cloud which then becomes a rain
      shower. The process shown in the upper right is what is happening in the
      cloud and the process of condensation to the introduced chemicals.
      Sources for image: http://www.fletcherboland.com/photos/mountains/11.php
      The most common http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_substance used for cloud seeding include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_iodide and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_ice (solid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide).
      Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can
      produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide. The use
      of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygroscopy materials, such as salt, is becoming more popular[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] after promising research.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding#cite_note-1
       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

      • Evermyrtle

        RaziWhitmaine scorp3j  
        this has to have something to do with the great increase in allergies, you may think you are breathing good clean air, we don’t know, do not have any idea what we are breathing or what may be raining down on us, Look at the great increase of cancer in the world.  Could this something to do  with that??. another thing do we have a clue what we are drinking in our water which comes down from the man contaminated things that we are putting in the air?? Thank you so much for you wonderful post!!!

        • RaziWhitmaine

          EvermyrtleRaziWhitmainescorp3j 
          “Is Cloud Seeding a Health Risk?”
          “Now, let’s take those chemicals listed above, and look them up. After
          all, what goes up in the air, eventually falls back down right? Along
          with the chemicals mentioned above, I have listed chemicals named from
          other sources in relationship to cloud seeding. I have also listed
          chemicals being found in rain water where cloud seeding trails have been
          present. Let’s see what we can find out about the description of the
          chemicals and the health risks for humans. Let’s go back to Wikipedia
          for that information. We will start with the chemicals listed in the two
          sources above. The ones toward the bottom of the list are chemicals
          found in rainwater where trails have been present.”
          http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-413453
          Thank you. God bless. :)

        • scorp3j

          RaziWhitmaine Evermyrtle scorp3j …There have been a sudden flurry of posts on conspiracy forums because someone noticed this ad:
          NOTICE OF INTENTION WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM THE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY WATER AGENCY HEREBY GIVES NOTICE OF INTENTION TO CONDUCT A WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM NATURE AND PURPOSE: The purpose of the project is to increase rainfall to help alleviate deficiencies of water supplies in Santa Barbara County. Clouds would be seeded by the dispersal of Silver Iodide (AgI). Two possible modes of seeding, air based and ground based, would be used. LOCATION OF PURPOSE: Project operations could be conducted during the period between November 15 and April 15, for each year, 2011-2012 through 2015-2016. Airborne seeding operations would utilize air space over Santa Barbara County, portions of San Luis Obispo County as well as the Pacific Ocean immediately west of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo Counties. Ground based seeding operations would be conducted from the Santa Ynez Mountains, the Casmalia Hills and the San Rafael Mountains. The target areas for seeding operations are the watersheds behind Cachuma and Gibraltar reservoirs on the Santa Ynez River as well as Twitchell reservoir on the Cuyama River. LICENSEE: The project would be operated and supervised by a licensed weather modification consultant.
          This is assumed to be something new, as they have not seen it before. And as it mentions weather modification it’s somehow taken as proof of ongoing geoengineering, and hence the “chemtrail” theory. 
          The problem is that this is simply http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding. It’s nothing new. Local municipalities have been doing it for decades, and quite openly. In fact such notices have also been occurring in newspapers for decades. The theorist have just never noticed them before. But even with all these facts, the conspiracy paranoia continues.. 
          Here’s the law in Washington:
          http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=173-495-070

  • ATreff

    Scorp3j, all the bantering aside, perhaps it is time the final authority chimes in on your agenda of misinformation.
    “A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.” Proverbs 19:9
    You and your ilk will regret your choices one day soon, I promise.

    • scorp3j

      ATreff  Tell it to someone who give’s a SHIT!!!   Get lost with your proverbs, tell it to your boyfriend..

      • ATreff

        scorp3j ATreff : how predictable. You going to cry now, because I laid before you the truth that you despise? You bought a bill of goods all based upon lies. You sold out for a pittance.

        • scorp3j

          ATreffscorp3j..Hahahahahaah!!!!!Crying? I’m laughing, and can’t believe how stupid and gullible you
          conspiracy nutjobs are..lmao

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j ATreffGod shall smite thee.

        • VChristineBingham

          scorp3j ATreff 
          God shall smite thee Scrop.  You are a fool and a fool you will remain.

        • Evermyrtle

          VChristineBingham scorp3j ATreff As an old time and fellow blogger, let me suggest ignoring people who have nothing that is hopeful of directing his tongue. You know it takes a little intelligence to make sensible blogs and if they make no sense, over and over , what is the point in answering them.
          We know that GOD is the MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING IS IN HIS CONTROL but to be able to get some of these people to  understand is possible. You know he says HE will contend for just so long and then HE will leave the evil one, alone “to stew in his own juice!” The last phrase is only my understanding.

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle VChristineBingham scorp3j ATreff I think He called it blindness and reprobate?

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham scorp3j ATreff That was a “LIKE” not an un!

  • Kathleen46

    I just clicked on some exchange that boogied its way into my in box but is simply untrue.  Somebody claimed that Texas vaccinate school girls with the Guardia (or whatever was claimed to stop cervical cancer), and I just wanted to set it straight that IN THE STATE OF TEXAS NOT ONE SINGLE GIRL WAS PUSHED INTO THIS HOAX BY THE GOVERNMENT.  (No claims for the options of mis-guided parents.)  I worked day and night when that stupid idea came up from Governor Rick Perry.  His idea.  The people of the Great State of Texas said “NO, Hell No!” on sooooooo many levels.  I called, emailed and/or wrote every Texas legislator.  The proposition never happened.  Perry himself wound up apologizing and rescinding the notion (after a million accusations that his campaign was funded by the drug company).

    • SandyTrank

      Kathleen46 Thank you for clearing that up! I had a hard time with that one. I couldn’t see Texans going along with that.

  • scorp3j

    Consumers of organic food are also more likely to be attacked by a
    relatively new, more virulent strain of the infamous salmonella
    bacteria. Salmonella was America’s biggest food-borne death risk until
    the new E. coli O157 came along.
    Organic food is more dangerous
    than conventionally grown produce because organic farmers use animal
    manure as the major source of fertilizer for their food crops. Animal
    manure is the biggest reservoir of these nasty bacteria that are
    afflicting and killing so many people.
    Organic farmers compound
    the contamination problem through their reluctance to use antimicrobial
    preservatives, chemical washes, pasteurization, or even chlorinated
    water to rid their products of dangerous bacteria. One organic grower
    summed up the community’s attitude as follows: “Pasteurization has only
    been around a hundred years or so; what do they think people did before
    that?”
    The answer is simple. They died young.

  • scorp3j

    For all you Organic Food Lovers..Please don’t take my word for this, Google it yourself…
    Organic Pesticide “ROTENONE” …Used in Organic Farming!Rotenone recent study linking rotenone – a pesticide with a ‘natural’ image, commonly used in organic farming and gardening – to Parkinson’s disease, has increased demand for a level playing field in the safety assessment of pesticides. 
    What is rotenone
    Rotenone is a naturally occurring chemical with insecticidal, acaricidal(1) (mite and spider-killing) and piscicidal (fish-killing) properties, obtained from the roots of several tropical and subtropical plant species belonging to the genus Lonchocarpus or Derris. It is a selective, non-specific insecticide, used in home gardens for insect control, for lice and tick control on pets, and for fish eradications as part of water body management(2). Both a contact and stomach poison to insects, it kills them slowly, but causes them to stop their feeding almost immediately(3). It exerts its toxic action by acting as a general inhibitor of cellular respiration(4).

  • ATreff

    You people can do whatever the heck you want to yourselves. You can eat “frankenfolds” until you become a Monsanto gmo cancer stastistic all day long, making their Hitler-connected IG Farben founders proud. I could care less, for that is what freedom is all about – peoples’ right to choose. The problem with you nazi-wannabes is that you do not want to give us the right to make informed choices. You want to force us to eat your poison and not have the simple right to know what we are eating (no labeling) to give us the right to choose, or in many cases, the right to even grow our own food (such as the new law in New Zealand – pushed through by none other than Monsanto). In essence, you do not believe in freedom and thus, you are a nazi shill.
    Every man should live his life as if the judgment of God was upon him at any moment. If that were to happen right now for you, and the truth of your life was exposed for the true Master’s judgment – right now – how could you possibly account for the deceitful agenda you are promoting right now. You are certainly not a mere consumer with an opinion, but a liar with an agenda who I have already witnessed lie repeatedly in your posts. I pity you for you have no idea what is in store for you.

    • scorp3j

      ATreff.. Calling people names, like a  Nazi, is that what  God and the Bible has taught you? You’d better ask forgiveness or you’re surely are  going to HELL ..What’s the problem does the truth hurt?  I never have lied, you just don’t want to hear the truth..Your Alex Jones PARAONIA has gotten in the way for you to respond to anything I have posted..
      Have a Blessed Day!  Get well soon!!

      • Evermyrtle

        ATreff You are right and you are angering the enemy who hates the truth. They are sending us to hell, which is what GOD says about these who judge us into hell. Evidently they do not read the WORD, just hear stupid things and grab it and lay it HIS people not knowing what GOD says about their evil.We should not answer such trash, it is  not worth an answer.

        • ATreff

          Evermyrtle ATreff :  Hey Myrtle.  You are right of course, in many ways. Perhaps I was wanting to expose this man’s agenda on these boards.  People need to realize that the global mafia has thousands of internet shills stationed throughout the internet, paid through “free printed federal reserve dollars” with the “common purpose” of disinformation to further their eugenics, new world order agendas.  This man is not likely misinformed, he is a deceiver.  I have dealt with them for years and can spot their agenda within a very short time of them posting.
          The truth of God is a glorious source of joy for the world.  It liberates and protects those who take refuge in it, gives us wisdom and shares the intense love of God.  These people are so foolish to believe that for one second, an entity as immensely brilliant and wise as God is, the Creator, would be so foolish to create any being more powerful than He.  Hence, they are buying into the lie of the dark one and destroying themselves for nothing but temporary gain and false promises. 
          I would ask sjcorp, how do you think I can recognize you and your agenda so readily?  Ask yourself how it is you are exposed?  Turn from the darkness and seek Jesus as your savior before it is too late for you – not just in the sense of the return of God to judge the world, but in the sense that once your soul hits a certain depth of darkness, you will never be able to see the light of the truth again.

        • Wondering Woman

          ATreff EvermyrtleHi Treff,
          You needn’t bother to respond to this poor misguided soul.  Doesn’t matter whether he is in it just for the money or whether he has bought the new world order swill of saving the planet – he is sadly misguided either way.  He shows everyone what he is by his baffling with BS issues.  Everyone knows that rotenone that he keeps harping on is toxic, but he is practicing the nwo agenda of brainwashing by taking a small amount of truth and hoping that if they keep repeating the same crap over and over, we will begin to believe.  What he fails to do is realize that anyone who cares knows that organic farmers do not use toxic fertilizers and pesticides, and it is very easy for anyone who cares to look up the definition of organic farming – very different from what he keeps professing to believe.
          But another interesting thing that many may still not know – spraying MSG on fruits and vegetables in the field as fertilizer  started at least a decade ago.   Rense has an interesting article on this.  MSG Is Being Sprayed On Fruits, Veggies, Nuts, Grains And Seeds As They Are Growing…Even  Those Used In Baby Food Truth In Labeling.org  4-20-9  But as usual, the new world order agenda order prevails in pushing their toxic synthetic products on us.  The only way to avoid being inundated with MSG is to buy locally from someone you know and trust or grow your own, and Agenda 21 includes plans to prevent you from growing your own or even save seeds from your own heritage fruits & vegetables from one year to use the next.   Recently read something about they are going to start putting natural flavors (bogus name for MSG) and/or aspartame in milk to make it more palatable for our school children.  In the meantime, dear Michelle Obama is blowing smoke rings about improving nutrition in the young and decreasing obesity.  Our two major excitotoxins are the major cause of obesity in both children and adults!!!!  Pity the poor souls living near those huge industrial farms, with the planes flying over and spraying the crops with this fertilizer + pesticides and weed killers.  Our air is polluted enough, but theirs must be terrible.

        • SandyTrank

          Wondering Woman ATreff Evermyrtle  Just read an article on Natural News about the milk and they have a link you can go to or you can go to the federalregister.gov and go to the article on milk and they are asking for comments from consumers regarding the milk before making a decision on the labeling. Anyone who wants to voice their opinion, is welcome to do so. It may be if enough people are against it, maybe Dairy won’t be able to add without at least putting all the ingredients on the label. I already gave them my thoughts. Hoping a lot of people do. We can’t stop agenda 21 but if we can even slow down it’s implementations it is a good thing. You are correct in all you say Wondering Woman, I agree 100%

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle ATreff  I agree Myrtle. I don’t read any of his comments anymore.

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle ATreff  Actually it is better for Christians not to read his comments. You know that HE says HE will contend just far and then He will allow to go our way without trying to get us to follow the right path. When we have done all we can do, I believe we should also allot him to go his way. Reading his outrageous lying comments is just so uncomfortable so don’t read them.

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle SandyTrank ATreff  We are to stand for the Truth and witness but it comes to the point that was “cast our pearls before swine” as the Scriptures tell us and we have to be wise enough to know when to leave them to their own demise.

        • SandyTrank

          Myrtle, and I don’t read his posts anymore; if he gets tacked onto another comment I make to someone else is the only way he will ever hear from me. I’m done reading his filthy language…

        • Evermyrtle

          SandyTrank Evermyrtle ATreff You got that right!!! I think they just love to annoy us to the point of answering, or it is goading us.?

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle It could be we have shown too much mercy! My husband always told me I bear too long with people, perhaps he is right about that.

        • VChristineBingham

          Evermyrtle SandyTrank ATreff    
          Goading us is the strategy.. But like the Lord, when he was confronted, his tactic was to either answer with the written word… or not at all.

        • Evermyrtle

          VChristineBingham Evermyrtle SandyTrank ATreff One very sad truth about it we never get Christian enough, that we will not fall to the pressure of evil, against GOD’S will for us. We, who are not perfect, just bounce up and ask HIS forgiveness and struggle on along the path that HE has laid out for us.

           .

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham Evermyrtle SandyTrank ATreff  
          We can expect to get bit. It used to hurt my feelings but I’m way past that now cause they are not rejecting me but He Who died to save them.

  • scorp3j

    E coli outbreak: German organic farm officially identified..Bean sprouts from an organic farm in northern http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/germany caused the http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/e-coli outbreak that has killed 31 people and infected thousands more, German officials said on Friday.
    The new strain of E coli causes disease by colonising the gut
    and producing a toxin called Shiga. Many patients experienced bloody
    diarrhoea and in the most serious cases the infection caused a
    life-threatening condition called haemolytic uraemic syndrome (HUS). Organic farms fell under suspicion in the investigation because they do
    not use chemical fertilisers and put crops at greater risk of
    contamination from bacteria in manure.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/10/e-coli-bean-sprouts-blamed

    • Wondering Woman

      scorp3j More of baffling with BS from the same source.  He needs to return to his links and reread the articles he refers to.  It states that in the most recent case that was connected to restaurants, it was decided that bean sprouts was the probable (?) cause.  Probable cause means nothing more than they hope to blame it on the probable culprit, which was bean sprouts grown on an organic farm.
      Tracking further, it mentioned an earlier E coli outbreak that authorities had blamed on organic cucumbers, but 2 weeks later that claim was retracted.  It also states that the organic produce had fell under suspicion “because organic farmers use animal manure as natural fertilizer”.
      Perhaps this is the new world order’s way to try to give organic a bad name, but friends, organic fertilizer manure is part of the plan of our Creator put into action to keep Planet Earth operating and self sustaining, and has been safely used since our planet was created.  You can’t improve on God or our Creator, if you prefer – so I’ll stick with his plan.  Recently saw a very interesting video desertification of our planet and how we had misinterpreted what was causing the problem.  This poor guy was toting a heavy load of guilt for having thousands of elephants in Africa killed because he bought into the mistaken idea scientist espoused at the time that it was “methane from big herds of animals farting”.  He should be commending himself for being smart enough to recognize that what the scientist were espousing was wrong and that following their advice made things worse instead of better.  He now sees the light and says we should return to our Creator’s plan, because those large herds with their flatus, dung, and urine deposits are needed to keep our planet lush and green, because that is what composts all the vegetation and builds up the soil.  Because the animals don’t build toilets & just let it go whenever and wherever the urge to eliminate hits, they have to keep moving their grazing area and this is how it is supposed to be.  It has worked for a long time –  aeons – much better and longer than the new world order’s planned AGENDA 21!!!  
      Our Creator’s plan is for the health of the planet and the living things on it – their plan is DESTRUCTION!!!

      • scorp3j

        Wondering Womanscorp3j…  Hahahaha.. Yes!!! twist it anyway you like..to fool yourself. Eat all the cow shit you want and enjoy..That’s why all conspiracy  theorist are full of crap!!!  lmao..
        Organic farms fell under suspicion in the investigation because they
        do not use chemical fertilisers and put crops at greater risk of
        contamination from bacteria in MANURE!!!!!!!

        The new strain of E coli causes
        disease by colonising the gut and producing a toxin called Shiga. Many
        patients experienced bloody diarrhoea and in the most serious cases the
        infection caused a life-threatening condition called haemolytic uraemic
        syndrome.

      • ATreff

        Wondering Woman scorp3j Amen to that WW! It has become abundantly clear that NWO-Masonic stooges like isScorp3j, who once reigned these type of chat boards with their lies, now face a more alert and informed public. Their lies are not going unchallenged anymore, and as these devils push their agenda of theft, slavery and death to the point of being blatantly obvious, they are being verbally battered.
        I know they hate it, but I will continue to pray for them, which will either lead to their awakening and repentance, or else the heaping of even more of God’s wrath upon them. I would repeat Jesus’ very words, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” However, these people know exactly the depths of their evil and deceit.

        • ATreff

          Wondering Woman scorp3j one more thing for consideration. The shills always end up giving themselves away. When confronted with truth, they turn to personal attacks. Scorp3j, you have been outed. Time to take your anonymous little self, create another of your million screen names, and go elsewhere pretending you are an intellectual with a good faith position. If not, maybe it is time to inform Hitler’s IGFarben…..errr.. I mean Monsanto, to put in the “A-Team”. You “B”, “C” and “D” player shills are being handed your lunch.

        • Wondering Woman

          ATreff Wondering Woman scorp3j

        • Wondering Woman

          ATreff Wondering Woman scorp3jThe ones I feel sorry for are those poor fools who are being well paid by the elitists to poison our food and water supply, because they have bought into their scheme of overpopulation that will destroy the earth if not reduced and have been happily poisoning people through their food supply, public water systems, and  medical care.  Why are can’t these idiots look around them and see what horrors they are causing???  Why can’t they connect things like Monsanto’s GMO seeds as being the probable cause of the death of our friendly little pollinators, the honey bees?  Common sense tells one that if produce from those plants are toxic to the study animals fed them, the pollen from the plants is also going to be harmful to the honey bees when they try to do their job of pollinating those plants.  Trying to circumvent our Creator’s plan for this planet can do nothing but harm.   Last year Monsanto released their GMO grass seeds.  What is the purpose of this grass?  Obviously it is intended to kill off the wild life –  another detriment to the planet.  I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes when they finally wake up to the fact that they have murdered many innocents, to put a few greedy people in a position of power and tyranny

        • cyoder

          Wondering Woman ATreff scorp3j  Soybeans are self-pollinating; they don’t need bees. Therefore, beekeepers don’t set up their hives near soybean fields.

      • wdm

        Wondering Woman scorp3j The elephants were merely recycling carbon already in the air-plants. It is when old carbon that has been sequestered for millenia is introduced into the atmosphere via the burning of coal and oil. That is when the old carbon is added to the amount in the atmosphere. So the killing of elephants won’t do a thing to lower CO2 in the atmosphere.

  • ATreff

    Hey WW,  Thanks for the response.  I had heard that they will start adding aspertame to the milk.  What an unbelievable development!  The USDA – before they sacrificed their last shred of decency – determined that aspertame was not only unacceptable in the US food markets, but unacceptable for 50 reasons (the late 1970′s)!  Then our kindly neo-con nazi friend Donald Rumsfeld – the then-Vice-President of the manufacturer of aspartame – gets a high position in the Reagan cabinet and miraculously, aspertame is suddenly safe!!!  Such the miracle!  
    You are so right.  Grow your own or go with local growers who you know.  Of course, the elitist cabal will do everything to stop us, but I guess we will cross that bridge when we get to it.  No wonder why they want to disarm us (one of many reason).  Isn’t is amazing, every single tyrant in history disarmed their people, but they also strictly controlled growing their own foods, fishing and hunting because controlling food is the way to control the people.  I quote elitist swine, murderous scumbag and pedophile Henry Kissinger when he stated, “Control the oil, you control the nations.  Control the food and you control the people.”  Just for a person to be sick enough to think of controlling people tells you that his heart is as black as the darkest night.  I am certain that Scorp3j must idolize the likes of Kissinger.  
    What these fools do not understand that in the end, their evil will fail and they will be held accountable.  Their master is the father of lies and most certainly, he is lying to them.  For but their lack of faith and understanding, they are destroying themselves.  Perhaps they have that self-hating spirit that such is the ultimate goal.

    • scorp3j

      ATreff More conspiracy bull-crap…Do you even know what Aspartame is?
       http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

      • ATreff

        scorp3j ATreff You are a walking comedy show. You quote as if honorable and truthful sources the FDA, Popular Mechanics and now SNOPES? Hehehe… thanks for the comic relief!
        Snopes = George Soros and NSA/CIA propaganda.

        • scorp3j

          ATreffscorp3j Hahaha.. it get’s better and better with you conspiracy drones..Man are you people sick in the head,..you need HELP!!!

          Snopes.com the website is owned by
          two people, not one. They are husband and wife David and Barbara Mikkelson of
          southern California. Moreover, Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen, and as
          such cannot vote in U.S. elections or contribute to political campaigns.

          Now conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on
          the other hand, is completely controlled by Reptilian skin changers, and eats
          cow manure all day long…lmao!!

        • ATreff

          scorp3j ATreff : For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

      • cyoder

        scorp3j ATreff Hang in there despite all the attacks. It’s all a bunch of circular reasoning. A believes something because B says it’s so; B believes the sane thing because A says it’s so. Round and round they go, paranoia feeding on paranoia. There may be a glimmer of truth in some of the things they say, but it’s distorted beyond recognition.

    • VChristineBingham

      ATreff    Treff, My family buys milk on the black… make that.. white! Market, from local farms. We do occasionally buy organic milk in stores, but even the hydrogenation process is a detriment. Thus that is only when we run out of fresh raw unadulterated milk. And we just live abundantly. NO sicknesses, no ailments.. 
      Let people like Scorp ahve their say, and let’s IGNORE them.  But continue to share the wisdom given from above, that people who love the light will be drawn to.
      Thank you for being ‘on board’.
      May the Lord richly bless you and yours.
      Victoria Christine Bingham

      • cyoder

        VChristineBingham ATreff  You mean homogenization, not hydrogenation, or don’t you know the difference?

        • VChristineBingham

          cyoder VChristineBingham ATreff 
          Jesus I know.  And Paul I know.  But who the hell are you?  (Acts 19:15)

        • cyoder

          VChristineBingham cyoder ATreff  It was a demon who said that. Is that how you view yourself?

        • ATreff

          cyoder VChristineBingham ATreff : cyoder = scorp3j.

      • VChristineBingham

        ATreff   Hi Treff,  I see I said Hydrogenated rather than homogenized, though presumably you already know that both processes are unnatural, and render the food indigestible and radically reduce the food  value.  I would no more eat hydrogenated oils (otherwise known as margerine or trans fats) than I would homogenized milk.  But then, you likely already know this.  I’m just clarifying for the benefit of anyone else who wishes to know what is good and bad in food processing.  
        BTW.. just watched a great film from Iran.. called ‘The Color of Paradise’.  I’ve seen it before a few years ago, and it remains one of the best 3 films I’ve seen in my life.  The filmmaker manages to tell his story so profoundly, that , notwithstanding that I did not understand most of the Farsi ( I speak some), the story was crystal clear and utterly profound. But the point for this blog, is that, should you get a chance to see this film (available on Youtube).. it may amaze anyone to see how  an Iranian grandmother in her 80′s is able to climb mountainous regions and work hard, and sit on the ground with her legs folded, with the ease of a youngster.  But we know, that is the natural result of drinking pure water, eating food grown locally without chemicals, and having a lifestyle of daily walking and climbing.  But don’t see if for that.  See it because it is a powerful story of a father discovering his love for his son.
        God bless!

      • ATreff

        VChristineBingham ATreff : Hi Victoria. Thanks for the good info and the kind words. You are right, we need to put the sellouts, traitors to humanity, secret-agenda deceivers and satanists on ignore.
        Blessings to you as well.

      • SandyTrank

        VChristineBingham ATreff  I have to drive 70 miles one way to get milk and 100 miles one way in another direction. It does freeze well so I can get extra. Just became aware of kefir and I love it but it is made best with fresh milk. The Health Ranger has an article on the milk issue and there is a petition and a comment form for all of us to give our comments. The comments were requested by the FDA by consumers. There is a slim chance of changing the issue but it can’t hurt to try. If enough people respond…

        • VChristineBingham

          SandyTrank VChristineBingham ATreff 
          Found it.  I’ll read and sign the petition..

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff Hallelujah!! I got it to all in my address book. The more that sign and comment the better. One of my ladies in our Monday night Bible study told me last night that one of her friends was sent to the ER because she ingested something with aspartame in it and she is allergic to it. I didn’t know that or else I would have added it in my comment. I did however mention some persons could be and its like the peanut thing and labels. Thanks for signing!!! God Bless!

    • SandyTrank

      ATreff  One of the ladies in our Monday night Bible study said one of her neighbors went to the ER due to partaking of aspartame unknowingly. She is allergic to it. Hopefully you can find the link to sign the petition at naturalnews.com. Do the search on the site for the milk story. It tells us the FDA is asking for consumer comments and we may be able to stop this false label thing. We have a right to have all ingredients listed on labels and this is our chance to have our voices heard.

      • VChristineBingham

        SandyTrank ATreff 
        What we really need to petition the government for is our ‘constitutional right to ‘redress.
        That is, no one should be exempted from lawsuit. If a company’s products do harm, be it a vaccine, a GMO, an ‘unlabeled aspartame product’, whatever, the Constitution makes provision for redress.
        Not only should Monsanto not be exempt from such ‘redress’, but we need to pressure the lawmakers to remove the immunity (again the pun) of the vaccine industry against suit.

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff  You are absolutely right! Part of the milk issue I mentioned has that legal issue as well. They want our comments. They have asked to add artificial sweeteners to milk, not put it on the label and be exempt from law suits. I don’t bother with every petition that comes along but I felt this was one we might be able to make a difference.

        • VChristineBingham

          SandyTrank VChristineBingham ATreff
          How to make a difference: (Part 1)
          There are 2 parts of a political year; legislating and election cycles.. The only thing most politicians really care about is the latter. They will say anything they think we want to hear during an election cycle, and then tend to keep a low profile and maintain a ‘status quo’.. so as to not offend any potential supporters, the rest of the time they’re in office.
          The only thing that moves them, sort of like a large bull or an elephant, is the pain of a prod. That pain comes in the form of ‘bad press, lost revenues [read donations] culminating in .. lost elections. 
          Keep abreast of who in your area is up for election. Local, city, state and then of course federal.  The time to put pressure on politicians is NOT when they’re already elected.. since that is often a study in futility.. but during the primaries.. 
          Get involved during the primaries.. when a candidate finds out you want to be a delegate for their party they will have their field teams call you and suddenly they want desperately to know, ‘what issues are important to you’.  !!
          To get anything accomplished politically, the concerned and passionate need to:
          1) learn about the elective process 
          2) get involved in the early stages, when candidates are attempting to get their party’s nod, 
          3)  throw your local support behind the candidate that has either a track record or a clear voting record or that shows where he/she is on the issues that matter to you..
          THEN FINALLY, besides just being a delegate during a local, state or federal primary, think about a local run for a local office. Why leave politics and the legislative process to chance?  Do it yourself.  
          But before you ever deign to serve,  study Proverbs chapter 23 carefully.

        • VChristineBingham

          SandyTrank VChristineBingham ATreff
          Here’s another way to get involved, bus groups are forming now…
          http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/353814

        • VChristineBingham

          SandyTrank ATreff
          Now for some bad news:
          http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_27263.cfm 
          What did I say about politicians during the ‘non election cycle’.. they will do whatever they want, ignoring the majority Americans who ask them to do the right thing…

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff  So are you saying they are testing the water already? If that is so, wouldn’t large numbers of people commenting on certain issue with overwhelming opinions conservative and pro America can move them or just alter the message until they get elected? I am not ignorant of the process but not as informed as others. I know all my friends would vote for me but the liberals and perv’s would have a contract out on me if I ran for election and won.

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff  I read that and with all I’ve seen of o, I am not surprised. Sorry he is doing all this but not surprised. I get the natural news newsletter as well as Dr. Mercola

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff  I would if I could but going to Washington is not possible for me. I panicked when I was admitted to the hospital last Sept on an emergency basis. I have three dogs who are not really socialized and nobody to care for them. Other than that, finances won’t allow me to go. I do pray however when I am aware of an event.

        • VChristineBingham

          SandyTrank VChristineBingham ATreff 
          What I’m saying is that by the time its an election, your choices are gone.
          It’s ‘water under the bridge’.
          The PRIMARY is when the heat is on.  Candidates are vying for the nomination. THAT”S when to put the pressure on those who you know are against us, and fully support the ‘candidate for the nomination,’ that can be trusted to make a difference.  IF you can’t find one that will, work the process from the local areas up, till there’s a field full of good candidates.
          That’s the only way to make it work. 
          Talking to people ALREADY elected to office, is like trying to harvest corn when you planted cotton.

        • VChristineBingham

          SandyTrank VChristineBingham ATreff 
          PRAY THEN! King David said the same rewards go to those who stay behind and guard the camps.  Prayer is guarding the camps.

        • SandyTrank

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff That I can certainly do! I have been active in exposing Agenda 21 and other issues to all on my email list and when I am out somewhere at the store and get an opening. Somebody should be getting ready for 14′. We do have good local people but the party’s kill em if they don’t like them. We aren’t being allowed to choose our own in our states as the Constitution says we have the right. Somehow we gave it up. I don’t know when or who but it’s been lost a long time. If we could get it back and have our own run instead of who they pick for us to vote on. I don’t like the choices they make for me to vote on. That would be a good war to win and maybe give us more leverage.

        • Lerojist

          VChristineBingham SandyTrank ATreff 

          Keep up the fine work you do!

  • ATreff

    By the way Scorp3j, the genetic modifications of crops are being credited with the spread of ecoli, not deterring it.  
    http://farmwars.info/?p=3570
    I tell you what, you and your sick elitist pals eat the man-made garbage and leave the beautiful God-made crops to us.  I will live happily from the risks of an outbreak of ecoli (fat chance) from organic foods, and eat what was intended for my body, just like I will happily live with abundant freedom and the “risk” of a terrorist attack instead of having your simpering political elites take away all my freedom with their NDAA, Patriot Act, FISA, Executive Orders and more.

  • scorp3j

    15 Years of the Chemtrails Hoax..So
    what has been happening that maintains this hoax?

    Still none of the evidence
    that they have presented has been found to in any way prove that what they claim
    are spraying is anything other than ordinary
    contrails. 
    Conspiracy Theorist main activities
    have included: 
     Research’ consisting of rehashing
    stuff long ago debunked
    Proselytizing for new converts to their
    paranoia..
    Contacting government officials seeking answers which don’t
    exist
    Contacting media seeking coverage to gain more converts
    Attempting
    to explain what they see using every logical fallacy imaginable
    Taking
    millions of photographs of contrails, and still haven’t proved a
    thing..
    Spraying Vinegar from a little spray bottle from their backyards to
    dissipate contrails that are
    30,000 ft high..What
    moron’s!!!
    The insane paranoia continues with no new research or
    proof..

    • ATreff

      scorp3j : “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

      • cyoder

        ATreff scorp3j It is surprising that you should drag the Bible and God into this discussion since the Bible doesn’t mention any of the things you are defending.

        • VChristineBingham

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j    Yoder, you are mistaken, the Bible addresses everything pertaining to life, and for those of us born again of God’s spirit, we have a spirit of truth that leads us, ‘into all truth’.  That means ALL truth.  That is exactly how, having been led of the spirit these 37 years.. that at 56 years of age, I have no ailments whatsoever, can still run, do 35 pushups, carry 70 lb pails of plaster for my work, have not been sick in 14 years save a few colds and so on.  But don’t take my word for it, here’s some of the verses that promise such guidance..
          3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue’ . 
          That is,  the Good Book provides knowledge of everything that pertains to life.and godliness.  That includes how to live long and be healthy.
          It is also written, 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
          http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+16:13&version=KJVHowbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH’.
          Anyone who wants to have ‘all truth’, need first go to the source of truth, Jesus Christ. Who said to us, ‘I am the Way and THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE’,  John 14:6!!!!!!!!!!!

        • VChristineBingham

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j 
          BTW  you will notice in the verse that the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, also called ‘the Comforter’, is someone that the ‘WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE!  Because the world knows not HIM.  Jesus Christ.
          Which explains in a nutshell why the world is so ignorant, and confess as much with every comment that has appeared on this site by some in particular.  They CANNOT know him, for it takes meekness and faith.

        • SandyTrank

          I think our IQ jumps exponentially when we are Born Again! It was like I could see clearly like never before. When we hear the news, what we hear is not what an unsaved person hears. It is amazing the insight He gives us by His Spirit. It is something one has to experience themselves, like motherhood, you can’t tell about it and be understood by one who is not a mom; in this particular  case saved.

        • ATreff

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j : Your response clearly indicates you do not understand the depth of the evils involved, nor do you fully appreciate the depth of the Bible’s application to these issues.

        • ATreff

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j : one more thing cyoder. I choose to “drag” the Bible into this matter because the Bible is the rightful moral authority for which to draw wisdom and gain understanding. When you have people who willfully choose evil, irrespective if they manifest it through acts of theft, rape, murder, or even following the eugenics play book in slow-killing off most of the world’s population by poisoning their food and water supplies, it is the Bible that provides the moral standards for which to accuse these devils of their crimes. Since the laws of this nation (initially founded on Godly principles), have been greatly corrupted, the Bible remains the last, best source of truth and justice for which we can rely.

        • SandyTrank

          ATreff My Pastor calls it Willful Ignorance. He actually preached a sermon on that very topic and these we contend with fit the bill exactly.

        • cyoder

          ATreff cyoder scorp3j  “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ” Matthew 10:28  Even if the things you guys have been writing about were true (I have strong doubts about many of them), Jesus says you’re worrying about the wrong things. Don’t worry about those who can harm you physically; be concerned about those who can harm your immortal souls. Even if you should be right, your preoccupation with such things cannot be justified by the Bible.

        • VChristineBingham

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j 
          Cyoder yours is a classic case of taking a verse out of context.  If we were not to know how to take care of our bodies, why provide wisdom to discern between good & bad?
          Rather the Word of God is VERY CLEAR that we are to be wise and not foolish.
           DO note carefully that the admonition (Below) in Proverbs is written TWICE to make sure we pay attention:
          THE WISE FORESEE DANGER AND HIDE THEMSELVES, THE FOOLISH RUN FORWARD AND ARE PUNISHED. Proverbs 22:3 and 27:12
          Wise men avoid medications and vaccines at all costs.

        • VChristineBingham

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j 
          I’ll add this; a lovely lady in my neighborhood was given a prescription for pain killers for her arthritis.  They worked very well to kill her pain. The second time she took them, the medicine killed her. On her birthday last year!  She feels no more pain.
          Prescription medications kill more people yearly than even vaccines.

        • Evermyrtle

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j  I do not remember seeing you name before so I know you have written very little on this site, therefore you likely have not a clue who I may be. BUT if you have been reading my post, you will know that there is somebody out there who obviously do not know me. My Point, I just got an email from Ben Schock asking for a donation for same-sex marriage people. He will soon be shipped overseas for two years and will have to leave his wife Matthew. I almost dropped my teeth. Why am I writing this??so that all of the anti-same-sex deviation people can be on the lookout for this misguided person, who is begging for his anti-GOD support..

        • scorp3j

          VChristineBingham cyoder ATreff scorp3j ..What a bunch of HOGWASH!!!!   What are you a doctor now? If you don’t like prescription meds don’t take them. But don’t push your nutty ideology and stupid conspiracy theories on others..

        • SandyTrank

          Evermyrtle Oh my!! That takes a lot of gall. He would go into my spam list right away! Never heard of him before but I have to say, I wouldn’t be interested in his separation. He needs to get saved.

        • ATreff

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j : cyoder/scorp3j, who on this board fears Monsanto? I certainly do not fear them; however, I am a man who has trusted in, and tried to emulate Jesus Christ – an man (and more) who sought fairness, equity, godliness, who resisted evil and exposed it publicly (e.g Rev 2:9 & 3:9). He showed the way to stand strong against evil, showing no fear, even though he knew he would suffer and die for it.
          If this were not the case, then why would he care at all about what happens on earth? Why did he even bother to deliver the Israelites from bondage?! Why does he give us moral standards to live by, direct certain punishments for certain offenses, cared enough to raise Lazerus from the dead because of the sadness of a disciple, warn people not to harm innocents and children, why the Sermon on the Mount, and more? Don’t get it wrong, God cares very much about truth and justice on this plane of existence..
          Do not confuse yourself with the concepts of standing up for what is right versus fear. In fact, it raw courage that can only come from God for the people on these boards to stand in public condemnation to Monsanto and the corrupt government, when they KNOW FOR A FACT (I do) that it may soon cost them their very lives – or are you unfamiliar with the New World Orders various versions of the “Red and Blue Lists” deployed throughout history?
          It appears you have great misunderstandings about the Bible and of this discussion…. or is it something more?

        • ATreff

          cyoder ATreff scorp3j : As always – praise the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST !!!!!

        • scorp3j

          ATreffcyoderscorp3j….Are you so blind you can not see? Some who work for Monsanto and Government also believe in God just like you do..People have been talking about the NWO since the 1700′s..Tell me…Who is the NWO?  Where is the NWO? Who is the Leader of the NWO?…These all stupid conspiracy theories that have been repeated debunked over and over again for the last  200 years…Wake up, and stop mixing your stupid conspiracy theories with the Good Book..

        • ATreff

          scorp3j VChristineBingham cyoder ATreff : Again, truth is your enemy scorp3j, or is it you are the enemy of truth? Here is an expert opinion – an honest expert opinion and witness – to once again expose you for being the fraud that you are.
          Here is a whistleblower from big pharma, blowing te lid off your NWO mafia thugs. Let’s see, he IS a doctor and a former executive in te industry, with 35 years experience. Chew on this one for a while.
          http://youtu.be/w_QA2HD8U40
          Just so you know, there is still time to repent to The Lord from being a reprobate deceiver and shill for the NWO. However, you should know God’s patience is not without limits. You had better move quickly.

        • ATreff

          scorp3j ATreff cyoder : I strongly doubt that Monsanto and government “elites” believe in God in any manner close to how I believe in God.
          The NWO is too extensive a subject to educate you on this forum. However, I will leave you with insights from better-versed men than I on the subject. These are men who had all the resources and were in power before total corruption in California politics ruled the day. This is all the information you need to start your education process.
          “The so-called modern Communism is apparently the same hypocritical and deadly world conspiracy to destroy civilization that was founded by the Secret Order of the Illuminati in Bavaria on May 1, 1776, and that raised its hoary head in our colonies here at the critical period before the adoption of our Federal Constitution. The world revolution conspiracy appears to have been so well organized as to be ever continuing, and ever on the alert to take advantage of every opportunity presenting itself or that the conspirators could create.”
          — California Senate Investigating Committee on Education, 1953

        • Evermyrtle

          ATreff scorp3j cyoder Your are right, so many people know HE exists and that is the limit of their knowledge of HIM. It has come to the time that we had better get on the road to HIS WORD AND FAITH  IN HIM OR AMERICA IS GONG DOWN.  We find in Rev 3:14-17
          14. And the angel said unto the church of the Laodicesns wirte: These things saith the AMEN (GOD) the faithful and true witness, the beginning og the creation of GOD:
          15. I know thy works, that thou are neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
          16.So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither warmor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. 
          17. Because thou sayest, I am rich and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.
          Do not these word describe America today? We, the church have allowed hundreds, maybe thousands of church to go to the anti-GOD Chrislam. AND YOU, SO MANY OF YOU,  WHO DO NOT GO ALONG WITH THEM, CALL US WHO ARE FIGHTING THIS EVIL “FANATICS.” WELL, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WE ARE WILLING TO BE  FANATICS FOR GOD ANY DAY IN THE WEEK. CHEW ON THAT FOR AWHILE

        • Evermyrtle

          ATreff
          Isaiah 57:16 For I will not contend forever, neither will I be always wroth: for the  spirit should fail before m e, and the souls which I hav made. 
          I think HE is saying that HE will get enough of our anti-GOD behavior and when HE does thing will begin to go haywire.

        • Evermyrtle

          scorp3j ATreff cyoder Satan believe in GOD also. He was cast out of heaven because he tried to throw GOD out and take HIS place. He and his angels were thrown out because of that. Know GOD is the GOD  of heaven and  the earth and hiding your belief is far worse that not believing at all. That means you are ashamed of HIM, you know exactly who he is but are ashamed to show it. JESUS said in Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him also shall the SON OF MAN be ashamed, when HE cometh in the GLORY OF HIS FATHER WITH THE HOLY ANGELS

  • scorp3j

    We now know that the world is secretly being run by the Illuminati, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Trilateral commission, New World Order, Skull & Bones society, Bilderberg group, HAARP and Nine Unknown Jews. It’s not known where they all live to control the world, but we are getting closer..We Conspiracy theorists believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy organizations who – despite conspiring with millions in perfect silence – can’t resist putting clues in things like major public monuments and every note of currency ever printed. Making the average Batman villain look like Professor Moriarty…by Alex J.

  • LarryKayser

    JohnGaltTx SHouldn’t be called pork barrel should be called crap barrel

  • majikeez

    JohnGaltTx Whether or not GMO foods r bad 4 people we don’t know yet. We should err on the side of caution. NO GMOs. NO Mikulski. NO rider.