Police NOT Obligated to Protect Citizens


How many of you believe that the main purpose of your local police department is to protect and serve the people?  I don’t recall what TV program it was, but some years back there was a program about policeman and in the introduction it always had the words, ‘to protect and serve.’

We were taught from the time were small children that if we are threatened by anyone we were to call 911 and asked them to dispatch the police. But is that the real function of the police department?

According to the US Supreme Court decision in Warren v. District of Columbia in 1981, the police do not have the duty to provide protection and services to individuals except under specific assignments.

In 1975 two men kicked in the back door of a rooming house in Washington DC. The men entered the second floor room the woman and her four-year-old daughter were. The men raped and sodomized the mother. Two women living on the third floor above heard the screams and call the police station. The dispatcher promised them that help would be on the way, and sent out a Code 2 call to officers in the area.

The two women crawled out of the window onto the roof and watched as several police cars arrived. One car patrolled the alley and another car parked out front and the officer approached the front of the house and knocked on the door. When no one answered the second officer left the scene. All four police officers left the area five minutes after arriving.

The two women crawled back into their room they could still hear the screams coming from the floor below and again call the police department. The dispatcher logged the call as ‘investigate the trouble’ which was never dispatched to any officers in the field.

Hoping in believing that police officers had entered the home the two women called down to the woman on the third floor. The two rapists heard the calls and confronted the women at knife point and took all three women back to their apartment and continued to sexually abuse, rape, rob and beat them for the next fourteen hours.

One of the women that lived upstairs, Carolyn Warren, filed a lawsuit against the local police department for how they handled the situation. In her lawsuit, Warren contended that the police dispatcher failed to forward the first call with the proper degree of urgency — Code 1 — which would have alerted officers of the danger occurring within the home. The second contention in the lawsuit was that when the officers did respond, they fail to follow proper police procedures by not checking the rear entrance or windows of the home. The third contention filed in the lawsuit stated that the dispatcher failed to notify officers in the field of the second call.

The case went all the way to the Supreme Court where in 1981 a 4 – 3 decision was rendered stating that since Warren did not have a special relationship with the police department that the police were not obligated to go beyond the measures they took to protect her and the other women. Basically the Supreme Court ruled that police are not obligated to or have any duty to the victims of criminal acts. The main function of the police department is to arrest criminals and investigate crimes.

That only leaves one legal source of defense for every individual and homeowner. That defense is guaranteed by the Second Amendment in the right to bear and keep arms. That’s why the town of Kennesaw, Georgia passed an ordinance in 1982 requiring all homeowners to own a firearm to be used for protection. The only exceptions were for religious beliefs, convicted felons or those who had a strong conscientious opposition to guns. Consequently Kennesaw, a suburb of Atlanta, has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.

So if you want to protect yourself and your family, I wouldn’t count on the police but rather I would urge you to go out and purchase a firearm and learn how to use it. Then if anyone breaks into your house, you’ll have your protection right there in your hands and you won’t have to wait for police who may or may not show up to help.







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  • AmericansRon2U

    Well, I guess Milwaukee Cty. Sheriff, David Clarke, needs to send this article to Piers Morgan.  Evidently Sheriff Clarke’s recent PSA mimicked what SCOTUS ruled but our idiot mayor, Tom Barrett, sided with Piers on CNN (communist news network) that Clarke was wrong to do a PSA warning citizens in his county that CITIZENS, not the police, are the FIRST RESPONDERS!  Clarke is 100% correct.  If anyone wants to wait and hope that the police will arrive in time to save their lives, they have that right but others decide that they prefer to rely on their own resources like a firearm, they also have THAT right.  Lefties just don’t have critical thinking skills.

  • Incredulous1

    “When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”  The empirical logic of that statement should be sufficient to bury any and all liberal arguments in favor of infringing on the 2nd Amendment.

  • ErikOsbun

    The Supreme Court recognizes that self defense is the ONLY way.

    • Bigotist

      That wasn’t determined or stated in the Warren decision-

  • MacdonaldCory

    LIberals don’t care about real life stories like that; reality doesn’t matter. The fantasy world between their ears is more real to them than fact. Liberals are little gods; what they feel must be so. It doesn’t matter how other humans act in the real world; the hypothetial human of their imagination is more real to them than real life humans. If real humans acted as they imagined, they believe the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, people act as they always have for centuries. The little gods can’t change that.

  • TomWilde

    “To Protect and Serve” who? Maybe that should read “If You Ain’t My Mother I’m Not Coming”. When the SCOTUS says cops aren’t obligated to respond in defense of a citizen’s life than this country is irrevocably in its death throes.
     
    If you have never read “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” by Gibbon do so. You will swear you are reading about OUR recent history. Smothering taxes, an entire welfare class, porous borders, bureaucratic indifference, the military working for the highest bidder and swarms of “aliens” rampaging through the Empire sacking, looting and demanding tribute. And it all happened about 1700 YEARS ago.
     
    Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to keep repeating it.
     
    Caesar in the Washington Forum is not our friend and it appears that in 1981 the cops were handed a “legal” reason to ignore us. We just ain’t “special”.
     
    And now the Lib-NeoCommies want to disarm us. Do they have any reason other than Whimsey?

    • PaulBartomioli

      @TomWilde As I have stated earlier in this forum, case law on the role of the police in protecting the individual dates back to the 1800s. Specific period would be 1870s forward.  That predates communism, socialism, obamaism, etc.
       
      The parallels between the fall of Rome and this country are indeed striking.

  • AZDon

    There is one and only one person responsible for your safety, you!  However, if you would like to discuss this first ask yourself who is effected if your killed?  The police???  See, now what do you think?

  • downenray

    As do many others, I want to believe that police should be in the protection business rather than only investigating crimes of the past. But even if the police are willing to protect, they can’t be everywhere at once, so each citizen should have friends or neighbors also willing to help them if help is needed. In our small city and in this county we have a 911 service which I believe is aimed at protecting those who need protection as well as seeking criminals who have already committed crimes.

  • PaulBartomioli

    The police are here to protect and serve society as a whole.  Case law on this actually goes back to Dodge City, in the 1800s.  Look at the LA Riots.  Look at the riots in the 60s.  The police in each case established a perimeter around the trouble to keep it from spreading.  The LA Riots were famous for the photos of Korean shopkeepers, armed with semiautomatic rifles on the roofs of their businesses to keep the criminals away.With the recent Newtown shootings, all of the ignorance in this country concerning police, self defense and firearms comes bubbling to the surface.  The rifle in Newtown was a Bushmaster, .223 caliber, semiautomatic rifle with the standard issue 30 round magazine.  Note the description of the rifle.  PLEASE do not support eroding our rights by letting the other guy define what type of firearm was used.

    • JohnOMalia

      @PaulBartomioli  I thought that handguns were used in Newtown.  The Bushmaster was stolen, taken to the scene and was still in the back seat of the perps car.  Check it out but I believe that to be the case.

      • PaulBartomioli

        @JohnOMalia see comment to texas select

      • PaulBartomioli

        @JohnOMalia No, John, that is not the case.  The primary firearm used was a Bushmaster Semiautomatic Rifle, chambered in .223, with a standard 30 round magazine.  Information comes from CT State Police.  I am waiting for the Coroner’s report on the wounds.

        • JimMorriss

          @PaulBartomioli  @JohnOMalia No the laughing coroner got his stories wrong for the facts and right for the propaganda.  Still don’t know what happened up there and I doubt if we will ever know the truth, no make that ‘the facts’.

        • PaulBartomioli

          @JimMorriss  provide proof to back up your conspiracy theory.

        • JimMorriss

          @PaulBartomioli  @JimMorriss Must say I looked at videos again and It is not m16 but a shotgun that was in the trunk.  But there are still some things I need to have explained.  Like who was the “second” shooter that was put into the front of a police car.  I don’t like conspiracy crap as a rule, but there are usually questions that need answers.  And no I do not trust the politicians that are trying to rule us instead of govern us.  They are making laws to justify their salary at this point.  Do you realize they put a clause that congress would have to meet a certain number of times every year.  That seems imply they expected they would have problems getting the reps to DC, now we can’t get them to go home except when they need to do some actual decision making.

        • PaulBartomioli

          @JimMorriss there are a lot of questions to be answered:
          In no particular order:
           
          Why only first graders and teachers?  Staff deaths from office.  No one else.
           
          How did he enter? He was recognized and allowed in; he shot the door open. the door was unlocked.  those are the 3 i hear the most.
          how many pistols? how many shots total? how many rifle shots?
           
          the 2nd shooter was a cop that responded in personal vehicle, according to CT State Police.  The video showed him being put into the car for a trip “downtown” for questioning. 
           
          How did he get the guns? Were they locked according to CT State Law? did he have access to the guns prior to the shooting? Did his mother open the secure storage, if there was one, for him?  Why?
           
          As you see, with some questions, they lead to more questions that may never be answered.  We know he killed his mother. When? What firearm did he use?
           
          On the day of the shooting, a common story was that his father, living in New Jersey, was killed by Lanza.  He then stole that car, and drove to CT to kill his mother.  Later turned out to be a lie.
           
          Back when the Constitution was written, Congress was envisioned as a part time job, with the bulk of the year spent in home states.  Ever been in DC in the summer?  Until the advent of central air, Congress rarely met during the summer.  Too damn hot and humid.  DC is swampland, that is why it was donated.

    • texaselect

      Paul    THe guy did not use that 223. He used a 10 Mil  and a 40 Cal hand gun  the AR was found in the TRUNK of his car after the fact.

      • PaulBartomioli

        @texaselect Sorry. YOU and others that say that are wrong.,  I live in CT. 30 minutes away from Newtown..  The firearm in the trunk is a shotgun.  The CT State Police have the Bushmaster in their possession.  The video that is on the internet demonstrates the jackal media wanting to be first to report all the gory details. 
         
        Now, if any of you “experts” know someone at the CT State Police that can refute my information, FROM the CT State Police, cite your source.  Do any of you even live in CT?  We have enough BS to fight in the legislature as it is.  We do not need you guys feeding the “conspiracy theories” to prove that we are all nu tjobs.
         
        Do any of you believe that this was all a Hollywood stunt?  There’s a video for that, also?

      • PaulBartomioli

        @texaselect wrong.

    • beowulf32

      @PaulBartomioli
       the media lied that nutjob at newtown  left the bushmaster in the car he used another gun there just saying that because thats some of what they want to go after.

      • AmericansRon2U

        @beowulf32  @PaulBartomioli Newtown is looking more and more like a “false flag”…just like the Colorado theater tragedy.  There is a level of evil present in our govt. right now that most Americans cannot comprehend.  These hard-core communist ideologues will stop at NOTHING to achieve their objective which is to destroy America.

      • PaulBartomioli

        @beowulf32 see comment to texas select.

  • Bigotist

    Four (4) Satanists determining the fate of millions (000,000,000′s)

  • JuanMotie

    What always seems to be the case, the police will arrive at the scene of a crime just in time to string out their pretty yellow crime scene tape , write reports, and possibly take photographs.

  • TomWilde

    Although I do not share in the belief that the established police forces are NOT obligated to respond to calls for help I DO believe that we are all responsible for our own defense. Nobody is quicker to the scene of any trouble I may get into than I am.
     
    That’s why I have armed myself for self defense. My AR-15 can put out a pretty impressive stream of lead even though it is not a military assault rifle.  It is a Personal Defense Weapon and nothing more. Backing that up is a pump-action shotgun with interchangeable barrels, rifled and smooth bore, and a .45acp pistol that is nothing to sneeze at.
     
    I would NOT hesitate to employ those weapons against ANYONE who assaults me or my home.
     
    But that doesn’t mean I don’t want the Police to do their “Protect and Serve” duty and respond when I scream for help. IF THEY DO NOT THEN THEY SERVE NO PURPOSE other than report writing and should not be armed, equipped and funded to the level that they are now.

    • ArtyGunner

      @TomWilde: The only people I can guarantee will be at the place of a personal attack are the would-be perp(s) and the intended victim(s).
      The police have a general duty to the public at large to provide police protection. The police are OVERWHELMINGLY a reactive force, i.e., they get called after an incident has occurred.
      The reason for the 2A is to resist tyranny in any form. Maybe we should make t-shirts and bumper stickers emphasising that citizens are really YOYO (You’re On Your Own) and that the 2A is the way to guarantee Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, all of which come from G-d (or nature, if you’re a materialist, agnostic or atheist).

    • PaulBartomioli

      @TomWilde What you choose to believe is not germane to the issue.  The facts are that case law on this issue dates to the mid 1800s.  The 1981 case cited is noteworthy because the plaintiffs refused to accept the fact that they were wrong.  There are LEOs, today, doing PSAs telling people of this fact.  Most people, myself included cannot believe this to be true. However, it is.  BTW, ask any cop why he carries a gun and a “duty rifle,” semiautomatic, .223 chamber with standard 30 round magazine, and IF he is honest, he/she will tell you it is for their personal protection.  Chew on that for a bit.

  • NancyCouden

    Unbelievable!

  • texaselect

    The original role of the Police were to Investigate crimes after the fact. This is why we carry guns to protect ourselves and others that can not protect themselves.

  • texaselect

    There was a lady in Texas that had a man trying to get into her home. She called 911 the operator stayed with her on the phone when no cops showed up the woman hung up the phone. The 911 operator called back and the lady told her to send a coroners van and EMT’s mabey they can save the guy I just shot. 5 Squad Cars were there within 2 minutes.

    • PaulBartomioli

      @texaselect Urban Legend.  I used the same trick to get my mother’s vegetable garden ready last spring.

  • KenClark

    The show was Adam 12… Damn, that dates me. http://www.tv.com/shows/adam-12/

  • BHUDDA

    Seems like a good time to cut taxes to fund the police dept.s No show no pay ,added to the list of unemployed .

  • FreddyDiGuglielmo

    To Serve and Protect…  To Serve Summonses, And Protect Thier own Interests…  They have ben delegated to ALLOW crime to proliferate..  to trap good citizens at home where the media can bombard thier minds with poison..  they are to become the divisional line between the socialist leaders, and the enslaved minions of the state! Wake Up AmeriKa!!

  • Evermyrtle

    If not to protect the citizens, what are they they there for? To protect the enemy? There is so many of them, let them protect themselves, they will have the guns, the knives, the clubs, many of the protection that the government is trying to make illegal. Why are they doing that? So that our last source of defense is longer available? When will they declare martial law? Will the enemy still have access to their weapons?

    • PaulBartomioli

      @Evermyrtle It has been this way for more than 100 years. The police are to protect society as a whole. to keep order.  To that end they investigate crime, arrest and prosecute those that are caught.  IF you think the situation here is so bad, perhaps you should move to another country that also has police protection, yet the police are known to target citizens on behalf of those with more money.  The police do serve a positive purpose here.  YOU just need to know where their purpose ends concerning your personal safety.

      • Evermyrtle

        @PaulBartomioli  @Evermyrtle Actually I  am neither blind or ignorant, I do know what is going on in other countries. Our condition as a country has no bearing to the conditions of other country. If that is what you want for us, you will be able to see in person just how bad it is in other countries because it is coming and coming fast.  You will get your wish, GET READY FOR IT.
         
        IT MAY HAVE BEEN LIKE THAT IN YOUR PART OF THE COUNTRY, i DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT i DO  KNOW IN MY PART OF THE COUNTRY WE HAVE SAFE, DID NOT LOCK DOORS WEN WE WENT OFF, WAS NOT AFRAID TO WALK DOWN THE STREET ALONE AFTER NIGHT, WERE NOT AFRAID OF BEING MOLESTED WHERE EVER WE WENT. .

        • PaulBartomioli

          @Evermyrtle I grew up in a mid size Eastern city.  Experienced what you describe.  Currently live in a rural part of that state.  Leave my keys in my truck. I never call you blind or ignorant. I was trying to answer your rant about “what are they there for?  To protect the enemy?”
           
          I do not understand your thought process.  After reading the rant several times, I am certain I do not want to understand your thought process.

        • Evermyrtle

          @PaulBartomioli  @Evermyrtle And you are returning my rant with you ever so familiar ridicule. Truth to you people is always “rant” You turn it on every time you hear the truth.

    • AZDon

      @Evermyrtle
       
      Ok, lets reason this out.  How many police officers do you think it would take to protect every citizen in this nation?  How many is a reasonable number to be responsible for?  Five, six or more?  So lets just say the total population that needs protecting is 300 million even if each officer were responsible for 10 that would mean 30 million officers.  Feasible?  No.

      • Evermyrtle

        @AZDon  @Evermyrtle I am sorry, I did not read that part where protection of the citizens meant that you had to have an office with you every minute. I was under the impression that your are supposed to be protected when it was needed if there was an officer around. Even I who lives 20 miles from a police station did not expect one to be at my side at every moment of the day. What kind of a fool do you take me  and other citizens for. I promise can stand by you any day with my intelligence.
         
         Oh I get it you are on of those master ridiculers. Forget it, we as conservative citizens are familiar with your kind.

        • AZDon

          @Evermyrtle
           
          I do not think you’re an idiot or even not thinking.  I worked law enforcement for eight years.  There were just not enough of us to do what you seem to think is the obligation of law enforcement.  Lets consider an example or two.  I’m eight blocks away form your residence and I’m the closest, you call 911 because someone is breaking in your door, your home alone.  The dispatcher notifies me and I immediately start heading toward your residence. By the time I get notified it is two minutes after you initially called 911.  The burglar has already entered and has you trapped in a room by the time I start toward your location.  Traffic is bad the roads are totally swamped because it rush hour it takes me 12 minutes to get to you after I was notified.  Even though that is good time (some municipalities take over 23 minutes average)  the burglar has already seriously injured you, your unconscious or worse and left by the time I get there.  A total of 14 minutes is all that it took for me to get to you but he did his damage and left (in about 5) because he knew you had called.  He did not rape you but hurt you really bad and you will be in the hospital for weeks recovering. 
          That is the best case scenario.  What if I had been tied up doing something else when the call came in or ten miles from your residence,  it may take another several minutes just to get to the point I can respond.  Or maybe two or three minutes or more from my car add more time.  One other thing to realize, if I can’t make it in time which one of us suffers, me or you.  I go have a cup of coffee and say I just missed saving you by 6 minutes.  To bad! 
          If you know a law enforcement officer ask him or her what the average response time is for your area.  You may be surprised just how lucky you will need to be if your not prepared to defend your own well being.  In the final analysis you and only you is responsible for your welfare.

        • Evermyrtle

          @AZDon  @Evermyrtle
          I promise I may be dead when you get there, but I will not be trapped anywhere.. I have had to call officers several times, not an emergence.The least time to get one at any time was 2 hours. The closest Police department is about 30 minutes at the very best. I have protection and verily good nerve and I know exactly which end of the gun to point at my door being broken down. it was not altogether way you said it, was the sarcasm which was used so LIKE THESE D–N LIBERALS . What is so nice about is you are using the same language as before.”JUST LOOK AT ME, I HAVE THE STUFF THAT YOU NEED. WHAT AN EGO!!!
           
          I do not need to ask an officer anything about the time it will take to arrive I KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES IN THESE BACK WOODS TO DRIVE 20 MILES. I AM AN EX EMT. I KNOW THE ROADS AND HOW LONG TI TAKES FOR AN OFFICER TO GET HERE. I’LL CALL THEM AFTER IT IS ALL OVER IF I AM STILL ALIVE, BECAUSE I WON’T WASTE TIME CALLING IF SOMEONE IS BREAKING MY DOOR IN I WILL ACT., I WILL BE DEFENDING THIS OLE GIRL.

        • AZDon

          @Evermyrtle
           
          I may very well be the most conservative person you know.  Referring to me as a liberal progressive is ridiculous.  However, I know of no conservative who advocates the police have an obligation to protect any individual citizen.  Even the supreme court made that judgement.

  • TomWilde

    Enough cops to provide personal protection for everyone? Of course not! That’s totally unworkable. But it isn’t the issue and never was.
     
    The issue is if cops have a duty to protect the lives of those they claim to Serve and Protect. If they DON’T then why bother to call them when a crime is being committed? Why not just phone in the body count the next day?
     
    In my honest opinion cops DO have a moral responsibility to defend the citizenry TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. That acknowledges the fact that, obviously, they cannot be everywhere at once. But if they are going to be given a right to ignore threats to the citizenry then they serve NO purpose whatsoever and all of that fancy hardware we give them is wasted.
     
    Unfortunately, it appears that cops have now been seconded by the Federal government to act as armed bully-boys lording it over a hoped-for unarmed populous.

    • Evermyrtle

      @TomWilde You hit the nail on the head, Thank you.

  • MichaelBeard

    you get rid of the crime on the street the gangs prostitution Gay bath house gambling drug dealers drunk drivers Rid yourself of these low life’s. And set up a task force to rid this country of them. Or be locked up. The problem in this country is there is know morals know one knows what right or wrong. The bible has always been mine and I have had a good life.

    • KenClark

      @MichaelBeard What do gay bathhouses have to do with low life’s? Oh I’m sorry, I forgot to capitalize Gay…. Gay bathhouses do not affect me or anyone else who does not patronize them. They are patronized by grown consenting adults. What’s the problem. Oh no!!!!! There are people having sex in there. Get over it you bible thumping bigot!

      • TomWilde

        @KenClark  @MichaelBeard  If he is a Bible Thumping Bigot for having stated his opinion, then what kind of Bigot are you for having stated yours? A Satanic Bigot?
         
        Stating opinions is a two-way street, you can’t damn another’s opinion without giving your own and you leave yourself open to criticism for having done so.
         
        The Liberals DON’T own debate and DON’T own the rules. YOU are a Satanic Bigot, obviously.

        • KenClark

          @TomWilde  @MichaelBeard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q4K8D6-KmM

        • KenClark

          @TomWilde  @MichaelBeard And yes, I am a heathen..

        • downenray

          @KenClark  Jesus offers life to heathens and other sinners. What does anyone hope to gain by insulting others on a blog? To do so only proves the insulter disagrees with the one he/she is insulting. And what has the insult gained? Only to let others know the one doing the insulting is ignorant and had nothing useful to add to the discussion.  Gay is a good word, by the way. It describes happy and carefree persons. Queers are seldom happy and carefree, particularly in bath houses, I’d think, worrying about what diseases they’re contracting or sharing.

        • Evermyrtle

          @TomWilde  @KenClark  @MichaelBeard You are right Tom Wade. Life is a two way street, The GODLY and the anti-GOD. It will always be that way s long as this world shall  last. After that THE CREATOR WILL TAKE OVER. It will no longer be a two way street.
           
           You know GOD is the CREATOR. In the beginning  HE created the earth, the trees and all foliage, the animals, after he had created the stars, the moon, the sun. Then last of all HE created man, like as you and me. After all of that he gave us rules and laws that if we would obey we would remain healthy, strong, prosperous, we would be in need for nothing. But then, entered Satan. He told man that GOD’S rules were not good for man  man ought to make his on rules and man decided he had rather believe  Satan, sounded like much more fun to him!!
           
          Therefore entered greed, wars, all kinds of evil, diseases, all because we refused to obey our MAKER.
           
          Now, the next step: GOD IS BLAMED FOR ALL THE EVIL THAT WE HAVE     COMMITTED. We ask why did GOD invented aids, cancer and all the other horrible diseases, why do we not place the blame where it belongs? At he door of man, not GOD.
           
          Matthew 25:31-34
          31.When the SON OF MAN  shall come in HIS GLORY, and all the HOLY ANGELS with HIM, then shall HE sit upon the throne of HIS GLORY:
          32. And before HIM shall be gathered all nations: and HE shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats:
          33. And HE shall set the sheep on HIS right hand, but the goats on the left.
          34. Then shall the KING say unto them on HIS right hand, Come, ye blessed of my FATHER, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world..
           
          Now, you really need to read the entire chapter to get all of the information concerning this operation. 
           
          Yhe may understand I am proud to be called a “bible thumper” because that means that I honor and love  THE WRITER OF THAT “WORD OF GOD” AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ABOVE ALL THINGS AND ALL PERSONS.

        • Evermyrtle

          @TomWilde  @KenClark  @MichaelBeard Tom Wilde,  I am very sorry the above post was written to Ken Clark, and not your. I honor your stand, from the bottom of my heart. I hate the fact that I put your name in there, you are an honorable man.

        • TomWilde

          @Evermyrtle  @KenClark  @MichaelBeard I took no offense. I understood what you were doing.

        • Evermyrtle

          @TomWilde  @Evermyrtle  @KenClark  @MichaelBeard Thank you an have a great day.

  • Another_Joe

    The show was Adam 12.
    Old news, but good reminder.

  • TLW

    This article makes a good point.  Regardless of whether or not the police are doing their moral duty,  which is one that EVERY CITIZEN (including the police)  has toward his neighbor (read the parable of the Good Samaritan),  the bottom line is that not only the policeman but EVERY individual has the God-given responsibility to do what he can to defend his own life and property as well as that of his neighbor. It is the moral duty of the individual to keep and bear arms for the protection and defense of himself and others.  So regardless of a policeman’s dereliction of moral duty,  you must make sure you are not derelict as well.  Exercise your duty in this matter of bearing arms.  Get outfitted with guns and ammo,  and become skilled  in your use of them.

  • Adheeb

    First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petitionCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
     
    Second Amendment – Militia (United States), Sovereign state, Right to Skeet Shoot & hunt

    • aj_ny

      @Adheeb
       FYI………..OBAMA AND CONGRESS ABOLISHED THE RIGHT TO PEACEFULLy ASSEMBLE WHERE THE POYUS OR VICE POTUS ARE PRESENT.
      NO OTHER PRESIDENT IN HISOTRY TOOK THIS RIGHT AWAY.

      • violator1

        @aj_ny @Adheeb what do you expect from a coward that even fears US Marines at his innauguration! All weapons were disabled clips and bolts removed! You think he knows he has a lot to fear!? I would love to leave this life knowing that someone took him and his minions out with great prejudice!

        • Evermyrtle

          @violator1  @aj_ny  @Adheeb
          Yes and anti-GOD and anti-America. Why else would he be tearing everything good apart in America.

  • ArtyGunner

    Rather interesting that the term “the people” means every citizen in the Constitution to hoplophobes, except in the 2A, where it suddenly only means “the National Guard”.

  • Grog
  • aj_ny

    I am amazed how FEW people understand that POLICE HAVE NO DUTY TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL POLICE PROTECTION….and the Governments CANNOT be sued when your killed, assaulted, raped, somomized, etc, etc.
    Its up to citizens to protect themselves and families.
    So few poeple KNOW this.
    Great article.

    • Evermyrtle

      @aj_ny So few people will turn their backs n anyone in trouble and not try to help, This is a Christian country with millions of Christians, Even most non-Christian will help when possible. This is America not some heathen no caring nation. It is our duty as citizens and members of the Christian America.

      • aj_ny

        @Evermyrtle
         Go check out a few incidents atound the country where citizens REFUSED to get involved.
        In NYC there was an incdient where a woman cried for help and was eventually killed…..she screamed an people refused to at very least call the police.
        Point being POLICE have NO DUTY to protect you or your family.
        You cannot sue a cop for watching a crime occur in their presence and they either did not see it or hear it.

        • Evermyrtle

          @aj_ny  @Evermyrtle I guess I did misword  that comment. Let me rewrite in a more realistic natural way. I will say that every true Christian, and I am not talking about people who only claim to be Christian in this Christian nation??? Every person in the USA who is a Christian, who loves GOD and his neighbor as the WORD OF GOD tells us to do will never turn his or her back on anyone in trouble if there is any possible way WE can help them. It is quite obvious that I am not answering a Christian. This is a true, positive sign that JESUS CHRIST IS RETURNING TO THE EARTH, and it will not be long until the  time comes to meet HIM. . When HE gets here,  He will find HIS people waiting for HIM . To be exactly correct we will meet HIM in the  clouds and the dead in Christ will rise up there to meet HIM first and  then we who are still alive will then join HIM. WHAT A  DAY THAT WILL BE. All the lost will be standing there agape wondering what on earth is going on and why am I not up there, too!

  • Evermyrtle

    I think a police officer should be required to assist in any unlawful act if he is present at such an even just like I feel that I would be required to do what I can. I certainly would never refuse to respond if there is anything I can to someone in trouble

    • AZDon

      @Evermyrtle
       
      The SCOTUS ruled law enforcement has no legal requirement to protect citizens.  It further noted it could not be sued for not protecting citizens.  Consequently, it is up to the individual to provide their own self protection.  However, think about this, if you rely on someone else to protect you, even if they had the legal obligation to, and they are not available or do not show up in time who is it that gets hurt?  You or the law enforcement officer that is unable to respond?  Do you now see why it is necessary you prepare to protect yourself.  Do you now have any knowledge why a fire arm may be necessary? 
      One other question, were any of the Jews or regular citizens in Germany under hitler able to protect themselves?  How about Russia under Stalin, China under Mao.  Or any of the other dozens of countries that murdered their citizens during the 20th century to the tune of over 170 million?  Do you think that could ever happen here?  Do you think any of those 170 million thought without their guns their government would murder them? 
      What many liberal progressives (I am not necessarily insinuating you are liberal progressive) do not seem to understand or refuse to understand or admit, its not just the criminal who desires to massacre citizens that we need to protect against.  It is tyrannical government as well.  Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.  The number of citizens mass murdered by governments far exceed what the nut jobs succeed in doing.

      • Evermyrtle

        @AZDon Read what I said again and notice that I did not say that law enforcement was required to do anything. I am glad to see that I am not the only one that answers a post without firs t reading the complete comment.