Joe Biden: A "Shotgun Will Keep You A Lot Safer" Than An "Assault Weapon"


Vice President Joe Biden is one that is definitely known for his gaffes. Sitting in front of a fireplace in a Google+ “hangout” on Thursday, he attempted to push the Obama administration’s gun policy agenda. Like a good Socialist, he attempted to change the tone of the debate by stating, “I don’t view it as gun control. I view it as gun safety.” He then went on to say that “A shotgun will keep you a lot safer … than the assault [weapon] in somebody’s hands who doesn’t know how to use it.”

Biden took more than half an hour to talk to people in the hangout. He then gave us his definition of the Second Amendment:

“My view is that it is totally a guarantee, not negotiable, that I’m able to own a weapon for sporting purposes as well as for my own protection, but there should be rational limits on the type of weapon” needed for protection or sports, he said.

“There is no sporting need that I’m aware of to have a magazine that holds 50 rounds – not that I’m aware of, and I’m a sportsman,” Biden said.

Biden didn’t quote the Second Amendment for obvious reasons and that would be because no stated purpose of the Second Amendment has one thing to do with sporting purposes. Heck, he didn’t even mention hunting in his definition, which is the normal route liberals go to when trying to redefine what the Second Amendment is clearly about. Since Biden wouldn’t actually quote the Second Amendment and since there may be those reading this who don’t know how it reads, here it is:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

By the way, notice there is nothing in there about hunting or sports shooting. There is reference to using arms “being necessary to the security of a free state.” Of course, Biden and Obama will never let that comes from their lips though. Perhaps Biden doesn’t need just an education on the Constitution, but also a course in the history of why our Founders put forth Second Amendment.

Biden attempted to make as though he welcomed discussion, but the things he put forward are telling. He said, “That’s one of the reasons I wanted to be in this chat,” Biden said. “There’s tens of thousands of people listening to this. I don’t care which side of the issue you’re on. Pick those things that you think can have a positive impact. You don’t agree with me on assault weapons … [but] you may agree with me on background checks, making them universal. Make your voices heard.”

Notice he didn’t include those of us who would tell him to keep the federal government out of the issue and stop infringing on the Second Amendment. He does not want to hear talk about removing “Gun Free Zones” from public schools or other buildings, thus allowing people to legally exercise their Constitutionally protected rights to defend themselves and others. He made no mention of the fact that any and all gun control laws are a clear violation of the Second Amendment. The reason he doesn’t mention those is because he isn’t interested in them.

But most telling was his response when it came to a question posed about California facing and earthquake or other parts of the country facing a hurricane and how to defend themselves. “If you want to keep people away during an earthquake, buy some shotgun shells,” Biden said.

In fact, Biden said, “A shotgun will keep you a lot safer, than an assault weapon in someone’s hands who doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it.”

“You know,” he said pointing his finger at the camera, “it’s harder with an assault weapon to hit something than it is a shotgun, OK? If you want to keep people away during an earthquake, buy some shotgun shells.”

Quickly, I think shotguns are excellent for use for home defense. There is no question about that. But notice what he is specifically pointing out. He claims that it is harder to hit something with a semi-automatic rifle (something he calls an assault weapon, which it is not) than it is a shotgun. That is not necessarily true. Biden includes those who know how to use a semi-automatic rifle and those who don’t as equals.

Additionally, he talks about a double-barreled shotgun. Now consider you have a group of people coming to your home in a disaster situation and consider that they are armed or even not. If you have a double barreled shotgun that means you get two shots before you have to reload. I’d say you better make them count, because if anyone is desperate enough for what you have they are going to take you out.

Consequently, old Joe must not have taken into account that the Department of Homeland Security doesn’t consider weapons that fire 5.56 NATO ammunition, like the AR-15, as “assault weapons.” Rather, in a solicitation for more of these weapons by DHS, they are referred to as “select fire firearm suitable for personal defense.” In other words, they are personal defense weapons.

However, the point is that Joe Biden, in this hangout, completely misrepresented the Second Amendment, a portion of the very Constitution he swore, just days ago, to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.” Mr. Biden, take a good look in the mirror. With claims like you made during this interview, you Sir, are a domestic enemy of the United States Constitution.







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  • DeaconG

    Crazy Joe Biden Is as an idiot. He should stare down the barrel of his shot gun and pull the trigger, like the dufus he is. The man is a breath away from the presidency…..yikes !
    Joe the 2nd Amendment is to give us the ability to shoot tyrants. Just sayin ……

    • mrbobf

      @DeaconG There is a positive to your fear of Joe being a heartbeat away.  Unlike Obozo crazy Joe would not b e able to get any of his agenda rammed down our throats.

  • glass

    Thank you to all the sheriffs standing up for or life and liberty. One real good thing that helps us the idiot is on the other side.

    • DeaconG

      @glass It is awesome that the entire State of Utah and many many more Sheriffs and Police Chiefs in the States are refusing to follow unlawful orders and will fight along side the patriots. As a Veteran I have no issue defending my country, God is on Our Side.

      • glass

        @DeaconG  @glass Not a veteran but i am a patriot my 17rd glock is for home defense my 30 rd ak is for tyrrant mowing.

  • http://findingbryan.com/ Circlecast

    I sometimes wonder if Obama brought Giggles Biden along for the ride because Biden makes him laugh or does Obama actually take Biden seriously?

    • RedMeatState

      @Circlecast No one takes Biden seriously other than Biden.

    • AZDon

      @Circlecast
       
      I don’t really think that is/was the reason.  I think it is because Biden makes him look smart and Obama needs all the help he can get in that category.  On the other hand he can look down on Biden and that’s the way he likes it.

  • nazranger

    Did anyone else notice what he said? “…it’s harder with an assault weapon to hit something than it is a shotgun, Ok?” Then why not ban shotguns because it’s obviously a lot easier to hit something with it than with an assault weapon…what???? There is a lot of room for discussion on that point alone.

    • Noreasterner

      @nazlranger that one caught my ear too. Not to worry, shotguns will be the next assault rifle.

  • guest1969

    and then saddle these clowns up with all the idiot pictures of Feinstein ( has anyone besides me noticed that in all those pictures, I’m convinced that old bat would feel so much better and maybe not quite so combative after a good Fleet Enema! $1.29 for instant relief ). Boys, I’d say a few words of french I found floating on the net…Molon Labe…Come and get them!

  • shannon853

    hey joe. try to think with your pea brain. if you have a criminal in your house attacking you, if you miss with a shotgun it will leave a big hole in the wall or where it hits while a pistol or assult rifle leaves a small hole to fix! it if it hits someone, does the same leaving a whole lot more blood mess to clean up. buit of course your not the one fixing or cleaning are you? and by the way joe, they make shot shells for pistols also.

  • Don39

    Darn FOOL!

  • djw

    Why does his and obummers security guards not use shotguns then. Again the liberals are trying to sell us a bill of goods. Guns are not the problem people are. We  can see how great gun control works in Mexico and all the other countries with  dictators. Call your senator and congressman and oppose this take over of another freedom.

  • violator1

    Really you old idiot! Perhaps against the common criminal that will hold true! But then when you and that sicko basterd you are so proud to work for(“your own words fool”), start sending out your well armed and ammoed to the hilt with their body armour own to invade our privacy and our homes to take our guns out of your planned tyranny! Americans know what you Criminal Sons of bitches are up to! We are aware of your contrived efforts to drive this Country into financial ruin thus forcing the masses to either starve or become animalistic in order to survive! The DHS or The EPA no more need the armament and ammunitions that you have been supplying them with than a man in the moon! Yes our people need real honest to God fully automatic weapons to combat tyrannical attacks soon to come from your directives! Do you really think that your preparations for your planning would go without notice! Get for real

    • Don39

      @violator1 You hit the nail on the head with your assault hammer, stabbed old Joe right in the heart with your assault butcher knife, and wet his shoes with your assault penis, you devil you.

  • violator1

    Really you old idiot! Perhaps against the common criminal that will hold true! But then when you and that sicko basterd you are so proud to work for(“your own words fool”), start sending out your well armed and ammoed to the hilt with their body armour own to invade our privacy and our homes to take our guns out of your planned tyranny! Americans know what you Criminal Sons of bitches are up to! We are aware of your contrived efforts to drive this Country into financial ruin thus forcing the masses to either starve or become animalistic in order to survive! The DHS or The EPA no more need the armament and ammunitions that you have been supplying them with than a man in the moon! Yes our people need real honest to God fully automatic weapons to combat tyrannical attacks soon to come from your directives! D.o you really think that your preparations for your planning would go without notice! Get for real

  • snidely1

    Geez. What do you posters expect to happen? That you will be attacked by roving Mongol hordes and will need to be able to get off dozens of shots to defend your castle? Please. The great percentage of home invasions are going to be attempted by individuals, perhaps it might be a pair of criminals. The guys at my gun club (many of which are law enforcement agents) say your very best defense is a shotgun. You miss with the handgun or rifle, guys returning fire may just get you, not a good scenario. But walk down the hall with the shotgun, fire off the round just in the general direction and the sound alone will send the intruder running, and the spray of shot is going to take out anyone within about an eight by eight foot target area. You rarely “miss” with a shotgun. And you can use the second round and before the intruder has a chance to burp, you’ve done a 2 second re-load. Hey. This may be the only time in history Biden is actually right. Ever wonder why on the old Westerns, the guy “riding shotgun” has that scattergun? Yup. So he only had to be “close” on his shot to put the outlaw down, maybe even just kill his horse in the process. Think about it.

    • Don39

      @snidely1 You are another one of those dupes taht falls for the p-loy that weapons are for household defense. To bad you do not comprehend your responsibilities as a patriot  and the real reason that the 2nd Amendment protects the right to bear arms, a God given right to be free of tyranny.  Whether intended or not people like you are the tools of the enemy that would force tyranny on this nation and actually already has.Weapons are to maintain a defense against just such a tyranny as has arisen while the sheeple slept, and while ignoramoses ignored their rights and responsibilities to the nation. Ever hear of a well armed militia?  Ever read the founders on the responsibilities of citizenship? Hint;  It was not to grow and milk government. Hey you fool the guys in the old west did not have to worry about some jackbooted thug from the Obama thugocracy knocking down his door to haul him off to some FEMA camp without  charging,  without probable cause,  without indictment, without telling anyone where you are, without Marandizing, without a lawyer, and for an unlimited time! God i’ll bet you voted for Obama.

      • AZDon

        @Don39  @snidely1
         
        For some reason Don, and I must admit I don’t know why but, many in and out of government think that way.   Biden also thinks its for hunting.  Hunting has nothing to do with the reason it was worded the way it was.  Maybe they think if they suggest it everyone will accept it as fact.  I know that sounds stupid but I rest my case, because they are!

    • JohnOrendorff

      @snidely1 The reply to your sensible observation will be that citizens need to be armed to defeat a tyranical government if need be. This argument ignores the fact that the “government” has an army, an airforce, drones, and Marines. What do these gun fans have in their garages to counter this? Do these posters belong to a “well regulated militia” that could take on the government? I’m hoping my old double barrel will meet my needs.

  • AlwaysRIGHT2

    Although I don’t “wish” it to happen in reality, I sort of think it would be ironic/good if the next massacre takes place with a maniac using a shotgun.  1) We can play these clips of Biden promoting using shotguns and 2) the liberals will then say shotguns should be banned.  
     
    Plus, I get sick of repeating myself on this but… when are these stupid politicians going to stop and think about what they define as “assault” weapon and how it has absolutely nothing to do with firepower or damage or caliber of ammo, speed or type of bullet, or how fast the trigger can be pulled?  Seriously, the definition of an assault weapon is based entire on cosmetic features that have NOTHING to do with performance!  A barrel shroud, a flash deflector, an adjustable stock, and a rifle with grip.  Those are features that are among those required in order to be considered an assault weapon.  Have one of those on a semi-auto (aka what 90% of all guns are), and you own an assault weapon and are a criminal, or you owe the govt $200.

  • AlwaysRIGHT2

    This guy is such a dufus, when I watch him, I think I’m watching an SNL sketch.  I mean, seriously, I can’t believe he is VP.  I can’t believe he had a career in politics.  What an idiot.

    • Don39

      @AlwaysRIGHT2 Speaks highly of those that kept electing him all those years, huh?

  • swmazul

    Who made Joe Biden an expert on firearms?  And now we hear that Obama shoots skeet all the time at Camp David.  The world really has turned upside down.

  • mrbobf

    In order for a free people to protect themselves from tyranny which is the primary reason the 2nd amendment was written they need to be on “even” ground with the oppressive regime they are fighting.  Hey Joe if a shot gun is so damned effective why then do our police departments and homeland defense not rely on them for the primary weapon above the sidearm any longer?  The reason is that the bad guys today have long arms so they need to match fire with fire.  The same reason that I as part of the militia need at least an AR 15 to be effective if the need was to arise.

    • Don39

      @mrbobf And we may well need and do have a right to much heavier stuff. to include defensive weapons to protect against government intrusive drones, fully automatic weapons of federal agents gone rogue, tanks and armored personnel carriers, anything in the arsenal that the tyrant could use against us in violation of our Constitutional rights. And do not tell me tyranny is not a concern in this nation. We have and have had for over four years an anti-America anti-Constitution fraud president. Tyranny is here and now! Tyranny is the disarming of the nation piece by piece. Tyranny is buying up the ammunition and weapons  for federal agents, more than used in the Vietnam waby combat troops in any given year.

  • RedMeatState

    So far haven’t received an answer:  How many millions of citizens will Dianne Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, Lautenberg, Obama, Biden, etal, etc., etc., ad nauseum, be willing to kill in order to protect us from all those evil guns???  I can hear it now, “IT’s for your own good!”  Bang bang bang blam blam thud thud dying gasps.
    And they’re not “assault weapons”, they’re DEFENSIVE WEAPONS.

  • Redmongo1

    If this is true, why are you trying to ban the most affective shotguns?

  • Greg137

    “Shotgun will keep you safer than an assault weapon…”, Says the dufus who surrounds himself with armed security who are more than likely to be carrying assault weaponsa and bulletproof vests…

    • Greg137

      Oh yeah, and Biden never mentioned the sport of defending your home or business during a riot…

    • RedMeatState

      @Greg137 Yet, Biden’s mouth endangers us all.

  • BippyBellito

    I’m sure Joe Biden, when in the military as a young man, knows how to handle all sorts of weaponry.  Oh, wait….Did Joe Biden EVER serve in our military?  If not, why not?  Was Joe Biden the impetus for Creedence Clearwater Revival’s song “Fortunate Son”?

  • DonBahn1

    WORLDWIDE HISTORY OF GUN CONFISCATION
    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated…
     ————————
     In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
     ————————
     Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    ————————
     China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
     ————————
     Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
     ————————
     Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
     ————————
     Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    • AZDon

      @DonBahn1
       You are correct on in every instance.

    • stonemike

      @DonBahn1 Why are the American people unable to speak truth any more? the truth is islamobama is a maniacal racist !  Why do you think the DOJ has virtually given the GREEN LIGHT to “black on white violence, why do you not see ATF TEAMS surging through inner cities disarming black gangs and criminals?  And why do you see unconstitutional attempts to disarm legal, loyal Americans who are abiding by the law, it is simple , obama seeks to disarm the white American population in order to inflict his demented idea of “social justice” which includes allowing armed blacks to  administer punishment to “white America” for their fictional abuses of the rest of humanity! You can wake up now, OR YOU MIGHT NOT WAKE UP AT ALL!

      • RedMeatState

        @stonemike  @DonBahn1 It is about retribution and revenge.  How many times do they have to say it??
        All those stupid white folk who support are completely oblivious to the hatred that he and his staff have for them.

        • stonemike

          @RedMeatState  @DonBahn1 They may be but I realize whats going on and soon all decent Americans will have to face facts!

      • AZDon

        @stonemike  @DonBahn1
         
        What could be the purpose of not enforcing laws on the books regarding guns?   Gun crime increases.  That could be a purpose couldn’t it?  So if the laws on the books are deemed not effective could that afford an opening to institute more restrictive laws?  Of course it could.  Therefore, if the objective is to eventually eliminate guns wouldn’t it make sense to not enforce certain laws in the hopes more restrictive laws could be implemented to reach the desired goal?  You decide!

        • DonBahn1

          @AZDon  @stonemike Of course that is why Obama authorized Fast and Furious, to try to get people on board with total confiscation.

        • stonemike

          @AZDon  @DonBahn1 I agree totally, but we’re so far gone now, the only objective of patriotic believers in American freedom is to not only get rid of “the janitor who awoke president”, but progressivism totally!  We’re in this mess now because of the ignorance of believing we have some obligation to air every two bit radical ideology in both our schools and our government! Americans should either divest this nation, allowing conservative states to form a CONSERVATIVE UNION, free of progressive big government or eventually engage in a rebellion against oppressive government , just like 1776!  The only way the communist left has to subjugate us is with the help of the military and I firmly believe that WILL NOT HAPPEN!  The military hates islamobama and knows hes dedicated to the total destruction what is left of a WHITE POWER BASE!  White Americans are looking at total subjugation at a minimum, and genocide if we allow ourselves to be disarmed!

        • AZDon

          @DonBahn1
          So many in this country seem to think the government would never do anything like what happened in Germany in the 30′s and 40′s, Russia in the 20′s through the 50′s and many other countries.  Who during the twentieth century murdered its citizens to the tune of more than 170 million.  
          Just more proof if we don’t hang together, and soon, we will surly hang separately.   I think Benjamin Franklin said that the first time, it was right then and is right now.
          Most Americans are very good people and very trusting however, that has been the case with millions of citizens of other countries as well, many were killed by their government.  If we are to protect the future generations to come as our forefathers did for us we may soon have to act whether we wish to or not.
           
          Many American’s were among the sleeping when Ruby Ridge took place under HW Bush and Waco under slick Willie, I confess I was one of them.  I however, have awakened and now see the dangers of an out of control government if more of us do not wake up soon it will be to late.   Not only was I sleeping, but I also trusted the media then.  I no longer do.  I might further add anyone who does is due for a huge surprise.

        • AZDon

          @stonemike  
           
          We can recover but every election that passes us by makes it both more prolonged and harder to do.  However, I have faith we can.  By the way the military I was in took its oath seriously, I bet they still do.

        • stonemike

          @AZDon  @DonBahn1 I am very leery of the ability of obama to kill Americans if he thinks he can get by with it!  Don, I’ve recently tried to contact both Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugent, hoping to get some folks with fame and exposure interested in forming a sort of “minute man” group that could leave immediately for any location in our nation where govt agencies such as the ATF or FBI might be in the process of setting up another “massacre” of Americans! !  I believe if several hundred of this group were able to fly or drive to an area , walk , if need be into the actual zone where federal agencies have Americans surrounded, they can demand enough exposure or transparency to affect the decisions being made, hopefully preventing our oppressive govt from repeating Waco or Ruby Ridge!  I predict something similar will be eventually choreographed by obama and the DHS in order  to simply test waters for govt military moves against citizens!  I hope to gain support soon for forming such a group!

        • DonBahn1

          @stonemike  @AZDon Obama will use drones and UN forces, he has already fired officers that state they will not fire on citizens.

        • stonemike

          @DonBahn1  @AZDon If any UN FORCE is involved in hostilities within the USA, and Im close enough, I will execute every single UN INTERLOPER i can get my hands on!   NO PRISONERS!  The gutless UN forces cannot even stop hostilities in third world dumps like Lebanon, how would they ever be able to influence an American Patriot Force ?

        • DonBahn1

          @stonemike  @AZDon make your shot 1 inch below the visor, they will be have on body armor.

  • 7papa7

    Once again biden proves to be an idiot.  The second amendment is NOT about hunting.  It implies that we should be armed to protect ourselves.  This also means protect ourselves against a tyrannical government who is attempting to take away our Constitution freedoms and liberties like obama’s is doing.  It also says that our rights to arms shall not be infringed, I guess that part of the Constitution goes over the head of ole hoof in mouth biden. Quit trying to trash our Constitution.  We the people have had with you, obama, pelosi, reid and the rest of you lousy Marxists.

  • ConstitutionalistChristian

    I have seen such a shot gun.  It is a semi with a 20 round clip.  But Joe has a two shot double barrel one.  My gun is bigger than his.

  • ConstitutionalistChristian

    If abortionists used guns Joe would be for them.

    • http://findingbryan.com/ Circlecast

      @ConstitutionalistChristian OR completely against them… unless it is with a shotgun…

  • stonemike

    Yeah joe and a shotgun is useless against a government sniper like the one who killed the mother while holding an infant at RUBY RIDGE!    This bas–rd should be trued and executed!   Yeah I mean biden too!