Ed Schultz Says Civilians Have Never Stopped A Mass Shooting


The ability of Liberals to deny basic facts is often mind-boggling. It has gotten to the point that those who are employed by the likes of MSNBC and The New York Times are no longer remotely credible in anything they say. They could be reading the lunch menu, and I wouldn’t believe them. Once again, MSNBC is lying in pursuit of the “truth.”

According to Ed Schultz, of MSNBC, never has a shooting been stopped by a civilian. According to Schultz:

“Would it be a deterrent if, you know, say perpetrators know that there’s guns in the schools? How do we know they wouldn’t view that as a challenge? I mean, we got a goofy world out there. I’m just not convinced that packing a small firearm is the best defense or certainly not the best defense. You know, you want to make the best defense? Make the school a damn fortress. I mean, you could do that, I mean but, is that reasonable? Is that the right thing to do? Is it necessary? And so I’m just, is it nec-, haven’t we had enough school shootings where this is necessary? We’ve never had a civilian stop a shooting.”

Not only is this claim ludicrous, it apparently stems from a Mother Jones report that makes the same assertions. However, if you look at the Mother Jones article, it excludes all mass shootings where less than four individuals have been shot and killed. In almost every instance where a civilian stopped a shooting, the gunfire ended before the gunman killed more than four people. It is a wildly inaccurate survey, used only as a Liberal talking point. The survey is backward in the way it deals with the evidence. It says that because no mass shooting with more than four victims has been stopped by a civilian, a civilian has therefore never stopped a shooting. The premise is false. Every shooting that has been stopped by civilians has been stopped before more than four victims were killed. By excluding those examples, the survey is irredeemable.

The Left will stop at nothing to spread lies even when they know they are patently false. The entire reason the survey doesn’t include shootings stopped by civilians is because civilians actually stopped the shootings before they went too far. In that regard, the survey is deliberately disingenuous; and not even intelligently so.

As I mentioned several columns ago, concealed carry laws are the most effective way to put an end to mass shootings. There are legitimate surveys to back that up. Ed Schultz doesn’t care about the truth, he only cares about his Socialist, mega-liberal ideology.

When we have those who are supposed to be keepers of objective truth creating a shadow to conceal what is right, what are they? They are charlatans. They are liars. They are frauds. Ed Schultz is a fraud, and needs to be removed from the airwaves.







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  • Evermyrtle

    Do you suppose that these people do not know that all except those on the very top will fall by the wayside when they are no longer needed? Thousands of them are only tolerated because they are needed? When they put America where they want her to be, they will be put right where we are. Who has ever heard of a honest  treason committing govern who will honor  anyone who they need no longer, makes no difference how important they may have been to the completing of their plans.
     
    Not very well said but gives an idea what will happen to the go-getters in this vile organization.

  • bobseeks

    The best way to put an end to lying by the media is to boycott those companies that feed the liberal media with advertising dollars. If we are not willing to make that small sacrifice, we are going to lose the war with liberalism.

    • ShawnNJ

      @bobseeks
       I do everyday!!!

  • libsRpedos

    Don’t leave out the huffington post an cnn.

    • DrRisk

      I never read the Puffington Host. It is just a pack of lies.

  • MichaelBurch

    here in florida an old man stopped an armed robbery at one of those internet gambling house…he had his concealed weapon and just calmly stood up to the two would be crooks and starting shooting them…he was a hero in my opinion…ed schultz is just another educated idiot…seems to be a lot of those around these days…

    • http://fredmasey.com/ FredNJ

      @MichaelBurch – I must disagree, Michael. I don’t believe Ed Schultz is educated.

      • MichaelBurch

        @FredNJ i agree with you disagreeing….schultz is an idiot..my point was and is that so many so called educated people are just that…. idiots…just because someone has a ‘sheepskin’…it doesn’t mean that they are any more intelligent than someone who doesn’t have one…hence…educated idiots…folks without a shred of common sense….i will take the ‘uneducated’ farmer any day ..over someone with a 4 year degree but lacking common sense..how about you…FredNJ…OR you…DrRisk…

    • DrRisk

      “ed schultz is just another educated idiot”
       
      If he were educated, he would know better. He is simply an idiot. Or a lieberal. Well, that’s redundant, isn’t it?

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Well ED, the obvious answer to your comment about citizens never stopping a mass shooting is that there aren’t enough qualified armed CCW permit holders to be everwhere.  However, ED, your comment is wrong because there have been armed CCW permit holders who have stopped shooters from continuing to murder innocent people…not that any FACT would change your opinions.

  • HenryHenderson

    Sounds like his name should be Sgt Schultz, I know nothing

  • ShawnNJ

    Does anyone even watch Ed load Mouth Schultz or MSNBC. The guy is the most uneducated person on the air waves. Well maybe not. We have other American haters like Tingle up my leg Chris Matthews.
     
    Well maybe my list is to long to write here.

    • http://fredmasey.com/ FredNJ

      @ShawnNJ It seems to me that Ed Schultz should stay quiet for a while and give that big gash under his nose a chance to heal.

  • marvs

    “Did not stop shooting”?? Look at Israel.

  • bigfootbob

    The dog that didn’t bark at midnight.

  • David in MA

    “Ed Schultz Says Civilians Have Never Stopped A Mass Shooting”
     
    AND,
     
    Who has?

  • http://fredmasey.com/ FredNJ

    Whoa! Once a shooting is stopped, how do you know it wouldn’t have been a mass shooting if allowed to continue? Looking at places with potential like shopping malls or schools, countless attacks with all types of weapons, are documented to have been foiled by both citizens and police early-on or before they even got started. The one thing they all have in common is the person who prevented the violent crime had a gun!

  • fwiw

    The cause for the current gun control nonsense is mass shootings which occur infrequently, have been decreasing, and aren’t the cause of most gun deaths anyway.  Additionally, we had one before for almost 10 years and the statistics didn’t notice.  It does however make for great politics akin to the scene in “Blazing Saddles” where Mel Brooks insists “I didn’t get a harrumph from that guy” in order to vote on something so they could keep their “phony baloney jobs.”  Assault weapons is a phony baloney issue.  For those waiting to say “tell that to someone who lost a loved one”, I can’t.  Those people are functioning on emotion, not intellect.  Making the truthful, accurate, intellectually-guided statement that assault weapons is NOT the issue is like filling the tires on a car that won’t start.

    • DrRisk

      @fwiw This is sheer nonsense.

      • fwiw

        @DrRisk
        Not sure what you’re referring to, but if you’re describing my post, please point out where it’s wrong.  Decrease in mass shootings?  A previous gun ban?  People acting on an emotional level?

  • tndoug

    Ed Schultz isa freak of nature. Did you know he was born with half a brain and the other half was non-functional. That is why MSNBC hired him, to present the imbecile point of view. So far everything he has ever reported has validated this decision.

  • RobertRios

    Look at the rateings, MSNBC is way on the bottom, thanks to Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow. How long will they be able to stay in business? I will not and do not buy any product that is advertised on their show, thats like feeding the idiot.

  • Don H

    The Portland Oregon mall shooting was stopped by a citizen with a gun–THE ONLY REASON YOU DON’T HEAR ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT DOESN’T FIT INTO THE MEDIAS ANTI GUN AGENDA!!!!!

    • bobseeks

      @Don H This is why we need to revise the laws concerning freedom of the press – we no longer have the free press envisioned by the founding fathers, therefore constitutional protection should not apply. We must demand that the media present the truth, and nothing but the truth, to the public.

  • woodwaster

    It is more than well documented that more than twp million crimes are prevented each year by citizens with fire arms.  How many crimes have been prevented by police officers, when not on the scene prior to the crime.  The anti-guns crowd keep likening shooting like the “wild west”.  However, if one researches history you will find things were not near as wild as Hollywood has made it.  There were few rapes, home invasions didn’t exist, home robberies were extremely rare, and the “shoot outs” were not anywhere close to Hollywood versions.

  • 7papa7

    Schultz is an idiot.  If he did minimal research he would find that the majority of these mass shootings take place in a NO gun zone.  Law abiding citizens don’t take their guns into these areas  because it is not lawful.  Duh!  It is the dumb laws that we have on the books that allow these things to happen.  It is dummies like Schultz who leave out facts and who does no research that come up with 100% wrong conclusions.  Oh well, what else can you expect from MSNBC.  You will never get the truth from those Marxists.

  • mudguy

    Ed Schultz is the best example of the sayings  “Opening  mouth before mind is in gear”  and “Ready fire aim”

  • mcj5060

    I believe that happened just this past week with two faculty members who stopped an armed student, who had already shot one the people he went there to shoot and was heading for the second….they talked him out of any more killing.  But liberals will argue this was NOT a mass shooting.  Liberals can’t be reasoned with…they are beyond the ability to reason because they are blinded by their own agendas.

  • RHB

    OK, why not make a listing of all shootings that have been stopped by a civilian utilizing a firearm.  I have seen partial lists, but I have never seen a full accounting of these occurrences.  I have looked on the web.  If Mother Jones can make a list available using their phoney assumptions why isn’t there a true list somewhere.

  • RONG

    Ed is a jerk. If he would take the time to review the “real” news each day instead of the censored news we get from the media, he would find there are many cases each year where an armed civilian has stopped a mass killing.
    The reason you don’t hear about those instances as much as you do the mass killings is due to the fact that an armed civilian has stopped the killing before it turned into a mass killing.

  • tarheel

    The mall shooting in Portland Oregon just before christmas, I am sure it was crowded and had it not been for cc, I am quite sure it would have become a mass murder.  Again the mall was a gun free zone ( a target rich environment)  This kind of mental illness needs 2 center mass and 1 to the skull.

  • ashman1

    Never have shootings been stopped by a democrat-liberal-socialist

  • J Joy

    Ed Schultz doesn’t know what he is talking about which is normal for a liberal.  All of these mass murders have taken place in ‘gun-free zones’ so the only ones there with guns are the criminals…..Ed, how could any of these mass murders have been stopped by civilians, they are the ones that obey the laws!!!!  Do you liberals understand how stupid you sound when stuff like this comes out of your mouths????

    • Evermyrtle

      @J Joy Another weird thing is the fact that we have had many more killed  in the last four years that all put together in the last twenty years. What is the reason for that ? Doesn’t look good, at all!!

      • MingBucibei

        @Evermyrtle  @J Joy 
        SSRIs and other psych meds associated with >90% mass murders!!
        peter Breggin’s web site
        ssristoriesdotcom much other info on net
         
        Ming Bucibei

      • texaselect

        @Evermyrtle  @J Joy The FBI Stats beg to differ with your claim. Look the up and Learn. Look at my above post for the web site.
         
        Peace

  • vkreul

    If you want to boycott liberal companies, there is a phone app at http://www.2ndvote.com that will let you do exactly that! They break down how companies donate to liberal and conservative causes, issue by issue, and it is easy to use!

  • Schreckschraube

    Really? Must of missed the Klamath Falls Ore. mall shooting last month. Or the movie theater in Texas, or the school principle in Oklahoma.

    • AlRoberts3

      @Schreckschraube
       See, either he lies or he is ignorant.  In neither case should he be in a position of leadership.

      • Don H

        @AlRoberts3  @Schreckschraube
         I think it may be BOTH-an ignorant liar!!!

  • icetrout

    Did any of you expect the truth? lol :P

  • nztazane

    Evidently, Ed Schultz does not read the daily news, even the liberal side.  Just yesterday a teacher in Taft, California STOPPED a student from shooting ANY more victims, JUST by talking to him. The student did shoot two people, but was talked into giving up his weapon before doing any further damage.  It would appear that this teacher is a CIVILIAN, you idiot.  Eddie, someone once stated, “It is better to remain silent and let ALL think you are ignorant, rather than open your mouth and remove ALL doubt”.  You might want to adhere to that thought.  By the way, any attempt to respond to this post, Eddie, will only further prove my point!

  • AlRoberts3

    How would he know.  I am sure he would never go looking for information of that nature.  But that aside.  Does he have any idea how many people have individually been saved by SOMEONE having a gun, including law enforcement?  He will never discuss that.  And he will certainly NOT discuss the real reason for having guns, TO RESIST A CORRUPT AND ABUSIVE GOVERNMENT.  That would be him.

  • gongdark

    Ed Schultz is probably one of the best dangling appendage evacuators on MSNBC.  He needs no appointment to visit the white house.

  • http://www.projectshiningcity.com/ paul szemanczky

    I and 3 other men have stopped criminals, and 1 of us took down a killer because we shot our pistols effectively. We’re all civilians – non-police, but past military. Schultz is a cowardly goon. Around people like him mass murderers will have a carnival; around us they will die, be wounded, cry for their mothers, and expire. Who do you want in the movie theaters, restaurants, bars, local parking lots, or chain retail stores, where each one of us stoped a criminal. Do you want Eddy spaghetti, or a real man who can shoot to kill?

  • http://aol.com/ demsdaLiars

    Ed Schultz couldn’t recognize facts from his left wing BS even is it knocked out his teeth. What a buffoon Ed Schultz is.

  • http://aol.com/ demsdaLiars

    That’s funny. Seems most, if not all of the murders in Chicago is done by an Obama supporter. Can you report on that Eddie, or are you so dishonest to not acknowledge that fact.

  • Attila

    Well it would hardly be a mass shooting if Ed Schultz were the object, altho a mass might be held in appreciation of God;s blessing. in that event.

  • StevenF

    If I read this correctly, they DEFINE a mass shooting as one that WASN’T  stopped, then claim no one has ever stopped one.

    • DeanBraun

      Why does anyone still tune in to MSNBC?  Even liberals must be smart enough to recognize lies.

  • tps1217

    If their stopped you would think they would see that as a good thing.

  • AndrewJerome

    When the perp gets stopped before he is able to use his weapon how does Ed “the a$$hole ” Shultz know how many lives just got saved?

  • JoannaJohnson Smith

    Um, yes someone DID. There was a movie theater shooter last month that was stopped by an armed, off-duty policewoman. There was also a school-shooter that was stopped by a teacher who went to his car and retrieved his .38 and stopped the kid in his tracks!

    • 7papa7

      @JoannaJohnson Smith You forget that Schultz is a moron, facts and truth mean absolutely nothing to him or any Marxist.  They are agenda driven NOT fact driven.  It is a complete waste of time trying to reason with a far left dingbat like Schultz.  If it is not in total line with his agenda then it is false even though he can’t back it with truth and facts.  I have learned that arguing and debating is a total waste of time, they aren’t interested in truth.

      • ashman1

        @7papa7  @JoannaJohnson Smith Joanna, I like your comment. The bottom line is,  these socialists with their communist-bent ideological utopias, are not programmed for factual information. I am beginning to believe that they  are hard-wired. They lock on to a fiction or fantasy, and follow it to the end, regardless of evidence that would prove them to be totally stupid. Obama, a narcissist of pathological proportion, is an excellent poster idol for these insipid parasites. They will find themselves cornered with their fallacious notions if, and when, we begin to amass a unified effort to displace them from positions of leadership. I hope I live long enough to enjoy that unity but the past election suggests otherwise.

    • Randy G

      And yet you never hear about that!!

  • Greg137

    The Left speak the tongue of their father Satan…   He invented the lie..
    Come put your faith in Christ learn of the truth, and the truth will set you free…

  • Neville

    “concealed carry laws are the most effective way to put an end to mass shootings”   -   Well, I have to disagree with this.   CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY laws (as in, laws that affirm individuals’ right to carry any gun on their person or vehicle in any manner they choose) would be the most effective.   Like, for instance, Alaska.  Or Vermont.

  • texaselect

    Learn the TRUTH and find out for yourselves. The Liberals and Obama are full of Crap. This is nothing more than a BS gun grab. The FBI Stats do not lie.
     
    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/crimestats

  • txlady706

    And the LEFTIES say that the conservatives are IGNORANT……. hahahahahha! He’s nothing but an ignorant knuckle drag queen.

  • CatInATuxedo

    Schultz is an enemy – make no mistake about it!  Just another big blowhard who shouldn’t be on the air.

  • FrancesCampbell

    ed would not know the truth if it hit him in the face… in the last month 2 mass shooting were stopped –one by an armed citizen at A MALL IN OREGON AND ANOTHER  IN TEXAS BY AN OFF DUTY POLICEWOMAN WHO HAD HER SERVICE REVOLVER ON HER,  EVEN THOUGH THE THEATRE WAS A NO WEAPON SITE. SHE CHASED THE SHOOTER DOWN AND SHOT HIM.. THESE MASS KILLIERS ARE COWARDS WHO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAIM AND KILL UNARMED PEOPLE.. THE SWISS HAVE IT RIGHT.. THE LAW IS=== A WEAPON IN EVERY HOME.  VERY LOW CRIME RATE IN SWITZERLAND.    WE NEED TO JUST SAY NO TO THESE DUPES OF OUR COMMIE PRESIDENT AND CHANGE THE CHANNEL FROM PROPAGANDA TO THE TRUTH.  THE JAPANESE DID NOT ATTACK OUR MAINLAND BECAUSE THEY FEAred the armed citizens of the usa.

  • NativeNE

    I was only able to listen to this waste of air’s hateful drivel for about 5 minutes before I realized he is a complete waste of anyone with a brain’s time.  He is a complete moron and has no clue about what he is carrying on about.  And yet, this idiot is on the air!!!!!!!!!

  • R2D2Censored

    Ed Schutz is a mindless, hate filled, pig; and, anyone who actually listens to his psychotic rantings and/or believes anything he says publicly, or privately, is no better than he is!!

    • AndrewJerome

      @R2D2Censored
       Or unless you just want a good laugh before you go to bed.

  • Randy G

    The most simple response is ” Because most people do not carry guns now, ”  but it may be necessary in the future to do so  to stop the theives.

  • ChrisDonTremaine

    All these mass killings have been taking place at gun free zones. The correct answer is to eliminate gun free zones.

  • CROWFOOT1

    Alinsky;s Rules for Radicals states vert clearly that the problem with the ethical, moral Liberals is that they balk at the mandatory requirements of creating the Open Society that are as follows: lie, cheat, steal, defraud, libel, even kill.  The END ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS IS THE PROGRESSIVE MANTRA, SO WHY DO WE ALL SEEM TO BE SURPRISED WHEN THEY LIE, CHEAT , STEAL, DEFRAUD, EVEN KILL TO ACHIEVE THEIR ENDS.   I
    It is the kind, ethical, moral Liberal who must either acquiese to the Progressive platform or finally become aware that they are being led “down the garden path” and stop supporting the “end justifies the means” program.  Some of them who understand the Progressive plan are naive enough to think that THEY will escape the miserable enslavement of the masses because they foolishly think they are part of the ELITE RULING CLASS.
     I am too old to see the Agenda 21 world in full bloom, but  it becomes clear to those os us who avail ourselves of other than MSM news  that EVERY DAY  THERE IS AT LEAST ONE NEWS STORY ABOUT REGULATIONS, PRIVATE PROPERTY.DISPUTES, EVEN RESTRICTING GARDENING ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY. 
    If you have children or grandchildren who will be reaching maturity in the next 20 years, they will be living in a VERY DIFFERENT USA UNLESS WE START TAKING ACTION…ACTION IN OUR CITY COUNCILS, COUNTY COMMISSIONS, STATE LEGISLATURE.  YOU REALLY MUST BECOME FAMILIAR WITH AGENDA 21 SO THAT YOU CAN RECOGNIZE AND FIGHT AGAINST THE MEASURES WITH WITH THE “NON-THREATENING, NICE NAMES” THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ENACTED IN MANY TOWNS, CITIES, COUNTIES AND STATES. 
    THE AGENDA  WHICH HAS BEEN BEING IMPLEMENTED SLOWLY AND QUIETLY FOR AT T LEASE 2 DECADES IS PICKING UP SPEED AS IT ROLLS OVER OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS..

  • Shootist

    Who the hell is Ed Schultz and why is he lying?